Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Boot problems with Natty Alpha ISOs
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:00:43 +0300 Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone. Natty Alpha3 boots normally on the box in question, so I guess the problem was caused by some unidentified minor flaw in the build process for alphas 12, silently corrected by the new automated build process for alpha-20110228 and alpha3. Aftermath: - the CD with all the four alphas (1, 2, 3 and 20110228) are perfectly readable on both my main machine (the one where the discs were burned) and test box. dd if=/dev/cdrom.|md5sum results are as expected *on both systems*. - the main machine boots normally from all the four CDs - the test box rejects alphas 12 (BIOS does not recognize them as bootable) but boots normally from the other two alphas. Thank you all for help. Glad to see you are now up and running. It would be nice to know what caused the problem but, I doubt we'll ever know such are the vagaries for computers, and not just with Linux. I now have a machine that doesn't recognise Windows 98 XP boot disks but boots with any Linux distro I throw at it. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 3 Update Manager / Apt - defaults settings
On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:12:10 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le samedi 05 mars 2011 à 21:46 +, Yorvyk a écrit : A few problems/observations found when running Update Manager. Key not installed for Lubuntu-Desktop PPA Restricted and Multiverse are enabled by default. Should they be? Natty-security and natty-updates are not enabled by default, Should they be? In Other Software: The Lucid Partner repo is listed, not enabled though. Security.ubuntu.com is listed. Shouldn't this be part of the default repos and not Other, enabled by the settings under Updates. Is it on a fresh install system, or on the live-CD ? Neither. I used the upgrade to 11.04 option on an old installation of dubious quality. I have two machines on a KVMS and thought I'd switched to the new clean installation. I've changed the theme to ozone on one machine so I can tell which one I'm using. Sorry for the false alarm. I'll have a go with the upgrade option again later, with a decent install of 10.10 to see if this still happens. All the other install options have been tried and appear to work OK. Although I've not tried installing alongside Windows only another Linux install. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 3 Update Manager / Apt - defaults settings
On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:12:10 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le samedi 05 mars 2011 à 21:46 +, Yorvyk a écrit : A few problems/observations found when running Update Manager. Key not installed for Lubuntu-Desktop PPA Restricted and Multiverse are enabled by default. Should they be? Natty-security and natty-updates are not enabled by default, Should they be? In Other Software: The Lucid Partner repo is listed, not enabled though. Security.ubuntu.com is listed. Shouldn't this be part of the default repos and not Other, enabled by the settings under Updates. Is it on a fresh install system, or on the live-CD ? Neither. I used the upgrade to 11.04 option to upgrade an old installation of dubious quality. I have two machines on a KVMS and thought I'd switched to the new clean installation. I've changed the theme to ozone on one machine so I can tell which one I'm using. Sorry for the false alarm. I'll have a go with the upgrade option again later, with a decent install of 10.10 to see if this still happens. All the other install options have been tried and appear to work OK. Although I've not tried installing alongside Windows only another Linux install. The lack of the signing key for the PPA is, howevr, a problem with all 3 installs I've done. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 3 Update Manager / Apt - defaults settings
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:06:24 + Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:12:10 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le samedi 05 mars 2011 à 21:46 +, Yorvyk a écrit : A few problems/observations found when running Update Manager. Key not installed for Lubuntu-Desktop PPA Restricted and Multiverse are enabled by default. Should they be? Natty-security and natty-updates are not enabled by default, Should they be? In Other Software: The Lucid Partner repo is listed, not enabled though. Security.ubuntu.com is listed. Shouldn't this be part of the default repos and not Other, enabled by the settings under Updates. Is it on a fresh install system, or on the live-CD ? Neither. I used the upgrade to 11.04 option to upgrade an old installation of dubious quality. I have two machines on a KVMS and thought I'd switched to the new clean installation. I've changed the theme to ozone on one machine so I can tell which one I'm using. Sorry for the false alarm. I'll have a go with the upgrade option again later, with a decent install of 10.10 to see if this still happens. All the other install options have been tried and appear to work OK. Although I've not tried installing alongside Windows only another Linux install. Ignore this line The lack of the signing key for the PPA is, howevr, a problem with all 3 installs I've done. I was supposed to be asking if the Lubuntu-Desktop PPA should be installed by default or are do we now have everything in the Ubuntu Repos. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu QA Testcases
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:57:58 + Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:06:55 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le samedi 05 mars 2011 à 22:41 +, Yorvyk a écrit : Case ID: pfm-001 6. Right click on test and select Delete. Check that waste appears in the bin bottom right of the screen. I don't recall a bin on the bottom-right ever, I thought this had never actually been implemented. Thanks, fixed :) It was a bad copy/paste from nautilus test cases :) Is there anywhere you want these test cases reported. I see a link to report a bug but a report that they work would be a positive thing to have. ...and would you like some test-cases written for those that don't have them? -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 3 intitial test and some problems.
Initial impression of the new Alpha 3 ISO. As the drive was a corrupt FAT32 windows disk I let it install over the whole disk. This it did with out any problems. Although, due to a dodgy BIOS, it did attempt to name the machine 'steve-VT8363-Invalid-entry-length-0-DMI-table-is-broken-Stop' :) As the machine has no ethernet port I didn't test the download updates option, I'll do this later when I find a NIC. In use I found LxRandR didn't save the screen settings between boots. The Ubuntu font is not used everywhere. The title bars for instance are still sans. I'll carry on testing and see what else I can find/break :) -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 3 Update Manager / Apt - defaults settings
A few problems/observations found when running Update Manager. Key not installed for Lubuntu-Desktop PPA Restricted and Multiverse are enabled by default. Should they be? Natty-security and natty-updates are not enabled by default, Should they be? In Other Software: The Lucid Partner repo is listed, not enabled though. Security.ubuntu.com is listed. Shouldn't this be part of the default repos and not Other, enabled by the settings under Updates. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 3 - Theme defaults to Lubuntu and not Ozone
Theme defaults to Lubuntu and not Ozone -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu QA Testcases
Just looking at the test-cases for PCManFM here http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/Pcmanfm Case ID: pfm-001 6. Right click on test and select Delete. Check that waste appears in the bin bottom right of the screen. I don't recall a bin on the bottom-right ever, I thought this had never actually been implemented. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] os news
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:17:39 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le jeudi 03 mars 2011 à 19:39 +, Yorvyk a écrit : Hey boys, how many beer have you paid? :D http://www.osnews.com/story/24476/Lubuntu_Finally_a_Lightweight_Ubuntu_ A rather nice article indeed. Worth linking to from lubuntu.org and lxde.org. I maintained a list of good (quality, not necessary good for us :p) articles here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing/Reviews Maybe it needs more visible links :) I think the links do need to be more visible. I would not have thought to look in the Ubuntu Wiki for anything like that. I think lubuntu.org is the best place. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ace of Penquin Icons (or lack off)
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:30:43 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le mardi 01 mars 2011 à 19:49 +, Yorvyk a écrit : Are there any icons for the Ace of Penguin suite? I seem to remember a bug report for this but, I can't find it now. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ace-of-penguins/+bug/651366 I have somebody here that would like a go at designing icons for Ace of Penguin, I can't guarantee anything will come of it though as they've never done anything like this before and may have bitten off more than they can chew. So anybody know of any easy to follow docs on this. My assumption is, that a large png is the starting point and then it is shrunk to the various sizes needed but, what sizes are needed. Any thing else she/we should know? -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] 10.10 alternate ISO torrent problem
There appears to be a problem with the above torrent. The tracker at linuxtracker.org is giving an 'unregistered torrent' error. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 10.10 alternate ISO torrent problem
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 12:32:07 +0100 Michał Ćwikliński e...@pixelate.pl wrote: Sorry - I have removed it by mistake Ooops :-/ - here's new link http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-detailsid=1ae00d3c76df4b00baaaf7c86925f46162b9e198 \o/ -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Generic icon shown in Task bar window list
As you can see from the attached pic. mtpaint is showing a generic icon in the Task Bar Window List. The icon is correct elsewhere. Not sure what to record a bug against. Galculator also does this as well. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lxkeymap
Is there something missing here (see attached), there seems to generic icon on there, where something more important should be. -- Yorvyk attachment: lxkeymap.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players - some thoughts RFC
Which audio player to use must be about as controversial as which OS. While I believe they should be 'heard and not seen', others require them to run their computer. Benchmarks alone are not going to find the best solution but can narrow the field down. As Lubuntu is intended as a low resource OS, we need to find players that use as little CPU/RAM as possible while still retaining reasonable functionality. Some of us have, in the past, run various inconclusive tests. Before Oscillating Ocelot, or what ever the release after Natty Narwhal is to be called, we develop a standard benchmark for everybody to use. Basically this would involve everybody using the same music to carry out the measurements and also reporting the hardware used. In the tests myself, and others, have carried out it has become apparent that some players cope better in low memory environments than others. Depending on the source and codecs used some players use far more resources than others. While one may be very frugal with mp3 it's resource use can rocket with ogg, and vice-versa. Some players cope very well with about a dozen albums but struggle when they have to cope with 10,000 tracks. So what we need is a standard set of tracks, in different formats and bit rates, for everybody to test with and a standardised set of tests and measurements so as to give a consistent set of results across different hardware. Thoughts. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: [Lxde-list] update-notifier causes xscreensaver / gnome-screensaver snafu
Hi Dan, Begin forwarded message: Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:10:41 +0100 From: Dan Muresan danm...@gmail.com To: lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Lxde-list] update-notifier causes xscreensaver / gnome-screensaver snafu I've just discovered (after many painful hours of digging) that update-notifier somehow causes dbus to run gnome-screensaver, which of course competes with xscreensaver. I have no idea *how* update-notifier does it, but removing update-notifier.desktop from /etc/xdg/autostart solves the problem. Now, I prefer not to make system-wide changes. Is there a way (freedesktop, lxde, openbox or otherwise) to override autostart entries, or dbus session services, or to ban gnome-screensaver (short of apt-get remove)? This brings a larger question -- can we rely on gnome-screensaver never being started in a modern Linux distro? This is starting to look like a losing battle. I prefer x* to gnome-* any day, given the less-than-professional practices that surface so often in the Gnome team, but I was *very* tempted to replace xscreensaver with gnome-screensaver in /etc/xdg/lxsession/autostart. I am on Ubuntu Lucid (0.5.0-3ubuntu2, update-notifier 0.99.3), so maybe this is all outdated. Even so I would like to file a bug in launchpad, since this is an LTS release. Note that on Ubuntu, non-admin users don't see the problem since for them update-notifier doesn't start. As this is Lubuntu related I have forwarded it to the Lubuntu list lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Please file a bug on Launchpad, as 10.04 is an LTS version and has another couple of years life left. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: [Lxde-list] update-notifier causes xscreensaver / gnome-screensaver snafu
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:02:17 +0100 Dan Muresan danm...@gmail.com wrote: As this is Lubuntu related I have forwarded it to the Lubuntu list lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Please file a bug on Launchpad, as 10.04 is an LTS version and has another couple of years life left. I'll do that... though I'm not sure what component to file against. I'd file it against update-notifier initially and allow those with a bit more knowledge of these things to decide where the problem really lies. Make sure you add the tag lubuntu to the bug report. Regardless, some of the points I made were not Lubuntu, but LXDE-related, so I hope the list won't ignore my message? Even if update-notifier can be fixed, who guarantees that some other component in the future won't start gnome-screensaver and mess up xscreensaver? The dev team is quite small, so answers may be a bit slow but I doubt it will be ignored. Sadly with software getting more and more complex I don't think anybody can make guarantees like that. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone theme
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:34:12 +0100 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote: Ozone has been updated. Changelog: now root windows work fine removed unnecesary dependencies removed include files reduced code size removed extra evolution widgets (more lxde specific) Have a try and let me know how it works in your systems. I haven't noticed speed increasing, but now everything is more... soft and loads quickly. And as there's no recursive search for nautilus files, root windows has not that annoying delay. Download the package here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Natty/Ozone Cheers! A rather odd problem occurs with this version. I have the Directory Menu launcher on my panel and when I click it the menu drops down and the desktop locks up. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Missing help/docs
I can't remember if this has been discussed before, but the following have no documentation installed in 11.04. Sylpheed - sylpheed-doc not installed. Mtpaint - the program is unable to find the documentation so either it is not installed or in the wrong place. Gnumeric - yelp not installed. This is the first time I've looked at the help files so this may be the case in 10.04 and 10.10. RFC - before I file bug reports (if needed). -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:10:12 -0500 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote: What should Lubuntu do? I realize that being lightweight is a major focus for Lubuntu and I agree 100%. But keep in mind that the average user will have expectations for their OS and that not everyone will use it only on older hardware (Lubuntu is too nice not to use it on modern hardware!) My main point is that Lubuntu should be for everyone and not just us tweakers and geekers. I want to be able to install it on anyone's computer and not have to worry about what it won't do for them. So my question is what dose the average user expect their OS to do out of the box? Pretend you are putting it on someone's machine. Maybe your mother, or the neighbor who has never used anything other than Windows. What will they expect? Don't pick on mothers. They expect it to look and behave like Windows, especially if they have been to classes at the local school or college. Here's my list: - be efficient (most overlooked by most OS) Define efficient. - handle music, video and Internet OK, although DVD's can be a problem any most basic OS's. - find anything on my local network Most people of the type you're talking about wouldn't no what a LAN is. - download and open files properly I'd love that on any OS. - let me use it with external monitors/TV as a basic media player (HDMI out) Had very few problems with desktop machines but, portables on the other hand. They seem to be either plug 'n' play or a royal PITA. - have basic office apps (even though I don't use them) OK. - allow basic personalization (LXDE's lack of menu editor is a bummer, but I don't fault anyone for that.) Again the sort of user you're talking about rarely customises their desktop beyond changing the wallpaper. Lubuntu has come pretty close to meeting my expectations. I've had to tweak a little bit and I might still be missing a few things here and there, but overall, I love it. The one area it blows everything else away is with it's efficiency. It seems like that's the most overlooked item in all the other Ubuntu variants I've used. Tim -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Add gucharmap to the default installed apps
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:53:20 - Chris Druif cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote: Hai everyone, Seeing we are trying to bring the Ubuntu feeling to LXDE, we should try to give the full experience, but lightweight. Seeing Ubuntu comes with a character map installed, I would like to suggest that Lubuntu also comes installed with an character map. Seeing gucharmap (ubuntu's default) doesn't require any addition dependencies and should take 561kB on disk. It was discussed in the latest meeting, and gilir suggested to put it on the mailing-list to check if anyone was against the addition, so let yourself be heard if you do. Not something I use very often, but is useful occasionally. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:08:17 -0600 PYROcomp rexmo...@gmail.com wrote: qoute- You don't have to throw away your old machine, since it will revamp a machine starting from a P2* and above giving you a full and ready to use desktop in your own language. /quote Does the 11.04 edition in fact run on P2s? As I understand it support for old CPUs was dropped from the latest kernels... From 10.10 the 32 bit version was/is compiled for i686 instruction set which was first introduced with the Pentium. There are also more modern CPU's like the Geode and XCore86 that are not fully i686 compatible and require software compiled for i586 or early, so need to be used with 10.04. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Menu
These are just an annoyances that I can't get used to. Could System Tools and Preferences be placed in alphabetical order please, then the menu will be very nearly spot on. The menu icon. It's very nice but, there appears to be a lack of contrast or something. It looks like it's been left in a shop window for years and faded. I just can't put my finger on the problem but, it just doesn't work for me. I have not said anything earlier about these things as I wanted to give them time to see if they became less of an irritation. Sadly they haven't and they somehow detract from the generally 'slicker' feel that Natty is starting to show. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Menu
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:25:38 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 20:59 +, Yorvyk a écrit : Could System Tools and Preferences be placed in alphabetical order please, then the menu will be very nearly spot on. You mean the 2 sub-menus itself, of the contents of each menu ? The two sub-menus, so the menu looks like this: Accessories Games Graphics Internet Office Sound Video ___ Preferences System Tools ___ Run ___ Logout The menu icon. It's very nice but, there appears to be a lack of contrast or something. It looks like it's been left in a shop window for years and faded. I just can't put my finger on the problem but, it just doesn't work for me. Is it with all themes, or just the default one ? I don't understand what is the problem here. The new one, Ozone, for Natty. Maybe it could do to be a little bit darker. As I say it could just be me, especially if nobody else has a problem with it. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Do not use Transifex.net to translatd LXDE (was: Re: [Lxde-i18n] Should we continue using Transifex?)
On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 12:47:04 +0100 Martin Bagge / brother brot...@bsnet.se wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-12-21 11:41, Yorvyk wrote: That leaves the question, should I (or anybody else) continue to use Transifex or should I start to use (and learn) Pootle. For the time being we can not guarantee that changes done in Transifex will ever make it to the upstream repositories. Until further notice: Do not use Transifex.net to translate LXDE. I will accept and apply regular patches via e-mail (brot...@bsnet.se) for those wishing not to switch to Pootle. This is not however supported during a lengthy time. Probably as a maximum to the middle of January 2011. There is no need to stress a switch to Pootle at this time. We have not made a final decision on the usage of Transifex in the future, it might survive - and ofc it might not. We will let you know as soon as possible. What's the state of play with Transifex, are we going to continue to use it or do we switch to Pootle? -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Do not use Transifex.net to translatd LXDE (was: Re: [Lxde-i18n] Should we continue using Transifex?)
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:52:33 + Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 12:47:04 +0100 Martin Bagge / brother brot...@bsnet.se wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-12-21 11:41, Yorvyk wrote: That leaves the question, should I (or anybody else) continue to use Transifex or should I start to use (and learn) Pootle. For the time being we can not guarantee that changes done in Transifex will ever make it to the upstream repositories. Until further notice: Do not use Transifex.net to translate LXDE. I will accept and apply regular patches via e-mail (brot...@bsnet.se) for those wishing not to switch to Pootle. This is not however supported during a lengthy time. Probably as a maximum to the middle of January 2011. There is no need to stress a switch to Pootle at this time. We have not made a final decision on the usage of Transifex in the future, it might survive - and ofc it might not. We will let you know as soon as possible. What's the state of play with Transifex, are we going to continue to use it or do we switch to Pootle? Not sure how this got here as it was supposed to got to lxde-i...@lists.sourceforge.net -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Alpha 2 released
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:22:30 +0300 Konstantin Lavrov klav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I removed the .iso due to (usual) space problem. Please use the torrent or the miror provided by Phill. After one year of hibernation may I ask where Phill's mirrror is? Details here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Alpha 2 released
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:22:30 +0300 Konstantin Lavrov klav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I removed the .iso due to (usual) space problem. Please use the torrent or the miror provided by Phill. After one year of hibernation may I ask where Phill's mirrror is? Details here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxdm problem - missing titles and slow.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:23:10 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le mardi 15 février 2011 à 14:31 +, Yorvyk a écrit : Installed Alpha 2 OK, and all the basic functions seem to be OK. The login screen, though, seems to not function properly. The titles (Login Password) to the left of the login box don't display and the arrows to the right of the keyboard, language and session choosers aren't displayed either. I can't find a bug report for this, anybody having this problem. It may be a function of my old Intel i180, although I have another Natty install which doesn't have this problem but, this was an upgrade from Maverick not a clean install. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/703658 Thanks for that. I think I was searching for 'ldm' not 'lxdm' which is why I couldn't find it. The response times still rather slow though. I've filed a bug #719582. Is it a function of your build process that the install media is reported as '...Maverick Meerkat Beta...' ? -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxdm problem - missing titles and slow.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:36:46 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le mardi 15 février 2011 à 20:45 +, Yorvyk a écrit : Is it a function of your build process that the install media is reported as '...Maverick Meerkat Beta...' ? Oups, it's a bug :) I'll fix it for the next build. Actually it isn't. It's me booting to the wrong partition. The Alpha 2 is labelled correctly. Sorry about that, too many copies of Lubuntu on this machine. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Alpha 2 released
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:12:16 +0200 Benny Hult be...@graniitti.net wrote: It's there, been since morning ;) Alpha2 torrent is really popular, my ratio is over 11 for it and it has been active for 12 hours. Seems like lubuntu userbase is growing faaast. The 10.10 alternate distro is also very popular judging by the ratio. Will be installing and testing Alpha 2 at the weekend. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Members list
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:07:34 -0800 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 01/31/2011 02:44 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I've had a couple of people suggest that we put the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre page into some sort of order. I can do it by name, IRC nick or language (language being my preferred one), ... Can we ask what purpose the ordering is expected to serve? In techie-speak, are there any use cases defined for this database? :) To me, language seems a slightly odd choice of primary sort key, especially since it is primary language only (some of us speak more than one)... and as long as I can communicate about with someone about Lubuntu in some language that we both know, I don't care all that much what their primary language is... I just want to communicate with them. Timezone info is on Launchpad anyway, assuming people set it (!), so it is currently just a click away from the WhoAreWe list. Do we need to duplicate that info on the wiki, and then update it in two places as we move around the world? Is the benefit worth the cost? Ordering by seniority or date added as it is now (longest-serving members at the top, new people add themselves to the end of the list) also has some value, as that is information which would be lost (well, except by laboriously looking back through wiki history) if the list were re-ordered at all. If we re-order, should a date-added column be introduced so that info is not accidentally lost? SUMMARY: This seems like a bike-shedding kind of a topic :) However, since you asked, I'd suggest order by date added -- in other words, leave it as it is. But I'm interested in hearing about use cases which are helped by a different ordering. I fail to see any reason to sort the list at all and nobody, so far, has given a reason. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Advertising
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:10:20 +1000 Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning all, I'm running a stand at a linux conference here in Australia and I'm looking to get a collection of screen casts or advertising videos together to display on the stand. To this end I thought it would be good to have one or two Lubuntu ones as well. I know about the screen casts on the website but these are mainly how to which I will use if I need to in the end but I would prefer one that was more advertising material. If you know of any please let me know as it is not this Saturday but the one following (sorry for the short notice. Jared, ask on the UK mailing list. Somebody on there has something they show at barcamps, etc. while manning a table doing installs. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Advertising
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:20:47 + Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:10:20 +1000 Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning all, I'm running a stand at a linux conference here in Australia and I'm looking to get a collection of screen casts or advertising videos together to display on the stand. To this end I thought it would be good to have one or two Lubuntu ones as well. I know about the screen casts on the website but these are mainly how to which I will use if I need to in the end but I would prefer one that was more advertising material. If you know of any please let me know as it is not this Saturday but the one following (sorry for the short notice. Jared, ask on the UK mailing list. Somebody on there has something they show at barcamps, etc. while manning a table doing installs. That should have been 'I'll ask... ', so I've forwarded your mail to the UK list. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] artwork
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:31:19 +0100 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote: Just for testing :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Natty Something else to document on Thursday. How to install a theme in Lubuntu. :) -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm seriously broken
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:26:16 -0300 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Team: Today i finally upgraded my 10.04 packages with the LXDE PPA released a time ago. So far so good (and faster) but when i tried to right click a file pcmanfm crashed... maybe it's because i open files with one single click i thought, so i go to preferences and pcmanfm crashed again! Similar, but not the same, it's when i go to preferences in desktop, i'm able to change the wallpaper but when i click close the old wallpaper comes back and pcmanfm crashes again!! This bug it's just affecting me? How can i make a debug file? So far it's all i can tell. I think this is critical for 10.04 users! Maybe the upgrade is not ready yet for 10.04? This is testing stuff in that repo. For now i just want to roll back pcmanfm libs to get the functionality back... anybody knows how to do it? Have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing which also includes instructions on ppa-purge which will, hopefully, roll you back to a working version. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubunu Screencasts
Interesting idea raised by now3d in IRC Hi there. Could I ask if you would consider switching the Adobe Flash videos to be in the Ogg Theora format and use video tag? I looked at http://lubuntu.net/ but all the videos wouldn't play from Firefox on Ubuntu. Not sure how much work this would entail. Unfortunately my line kept dropping and I didn't get to talk about them not playing in FF. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] Switch from Adobe Flash on web page to standard video
On Sat, 1 Jan 2011 18:59:52 + Jon Grant j...@jguk.org wrote: Hello Could I ask if you would consider switching the Adobe Flash videos to be in the Ogg Theora format and use video tag? I looked at http://lubuntu.net/ but all the videos wouldn't play from Firefox on Ubuntu. Best regards, Jon I've past this to the Lubuntu list. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu for anyone?
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 23:22:47 -0500 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote: Here is my short list: 1. Installing from USB didn't work until I made the USB without storage. Isn't this a general Ubuntu problem. 2. Grub not updating after install. A cock-up with the installer where os-prober didn't get installed. 3. Chrome not opening downloads properly until I changed xdg-open. xdg-open does seem to be a mess in lubuntu and does need sorting 4. Having to learn how to add menu items to lxde. Can you give some examples, as this is probably programs not complying with the freedesktop.org standard. 5. Not being able to find my NAS from PCmanFM. A bit more information on this would be useful 6. Loosing some of my changes when Lubuntu updates. (Am I doing something wrong here???) Again, some more information would be useful. I'll admit that the list isn't too bad, but keep in mind that I had to spend a good bit of time researching and implementing the solutions. So the question is what is the ultimate goal for Lubuntu. I know you guys want it to be resource friendly. But who is it aimed at? The Linux geek who can tweak it or the average Joe who just want to be able to use it? Can it be resource friendly and not need tweaking? Is it just a matter of time to sort it out or a matter philosophy? The problem is, people, no matter how Lubuntu is set up out of the box not everybody will be happy. As an example, I can't do with the panel on the bottom of the screen so move it to the top before adjusting anything else. Really Lubuntu has to cope with both your average Joe and your average geek. The real problem, with all software, are those people that fall between the two groups. In this area there are again two groups. Those that would like to tweak but don't know how, so don't. The other is those that would like to tweak and don't know how, but do. These two groups are the ones we need to listen to in order to make things easier (more user friendly?). The main thing that comes from your missive is that Lubuntu needs to state it's goals louder and more clearly. Some distros hide their weaknesses behind 'shiny', a lot of distros derived from Lubuntu do this. Lubuntu isn't about 'shiny', it should be about functionality and this is what we shoul try and get across. Sorry if this has been a bit rambling and thanks to Tim for bringing this up. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] New Year's Resolution
May I suggest a New Year's Resolution for some. STOP TOP POSTING It does make following threads hard work Thank you and Happy New Year -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New Year's Resolution
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 12:51:51 + Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: Answer the question at the top of the post What is top posting please. -Andy (actionParsnip) On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: May I suggest a New Year's Resolution for some. STOP TOP POSTING It does make following threads hard work Thank you and Happy New Year This is bottom posting - answering at the bottom after the question. Which makes more sense as it means you can read the original query then the answers in the correct order. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dumb question...
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 15:46:58 -0500 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote: Does the download image on Lubuntu.net get updated? I downloaded the 10.10 ISO I have back in October. If I were to download 10.10 image today would it be any different? Thanks, Tim In a word, no. :) Only the LTS images get updated in line with Ubuntu policy. I for one would like to see ISOs updated during there life time but I suppose there's only so many hours in a day :( -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A modest suggestion - a list of lightweight applications suitable for Lubuntu
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 11:36:05 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, A page on the wiki should be nice. The problem is to define when an application is lightweight or not :) Regards, Julien Lavergne Le 28 déc. 2010 à 23:30, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com a écrit : Would it be an idea to have a list of lightweight applications suitable for Lubuntu somewhere, such as the wiki or lubuntu.net. I did think of producing a cunning algorithm to measure this :D The idea I had, was for people to put their suggestions on the mailing list as a RFC and then have them added to the list with maybe a star rating (light, medium, heavy) if a consensus is found. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxde ppa pcmanfm 0.9.8 mounting volumes
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 10:47:38 +0100 Zoltan Matlak matlakz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I added lxde ppa to my 10.10 lubuntu. Got latest pcmanfm (0.9.8), but my mapped volumes (other partitions) do not show up anymore. I have 2 other partitions that used to automount and show up in the earlier filemanager (0.9.7). Now are gone. In my pcmanfm, under preferences @ Auto-mount option I have all checkboxes checked. If I insert a USB stick it gets mounted and shows up in the filemanager. Any help is appreciated. Thanks Zoltan It’s a known bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/689324 -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] drop box
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 21:33:31 + Hrafnkell Brimar Hallmundsson hrafnkellbri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. I seem to remember installing dropbox more or less flawlessly without much more hassle than on Gnome. I think it only depends a little gtk related stuff that can be added easily through the installer. The standard install is more or less flawless except the installation of Nautilus, which in it's basic form looks not too dissimilar to pcmanfm. What we would like is it to install with out Nautilus and to use pcmanfm in a nice easy manner, with out having to edit config files. I've found the script Mint use and I'm trying to fathom how it is supposed to work so it can be modified to work with Lubuntu. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] drop box
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:06:02 +0100 Mårten Behm marten.b...@bredband.net wrote: Hi, If it is of any help for an entry in the wiki, this is the slightly extended Dropbox.desktop file that I use in both .config/autostart and .local/share. The latter will make it appear in the menu (should you need to restart). I also attach the dropbox icon to be put in /usr/share/pixmaps. When the deamon starts it shows up in the system dock. [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Dropbox Comment=Starts the Dropbox daemon Comment[sv]=Startar Dropbox-demonen Exec=.dropbox-dist/dropboxd Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/dropbox.png Terminal=false Type=Application Best regards, Mårten Nice, all we need now is the mods to xdg-open so pcmanfm is opened, which I can't find. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] A modest suggestion - a list of lightweight applications suitable for Lubuntu
Would it be an idea to have a list of lightweight applications suitable for Lubuntu somewhere, such as the wiki or lubuntu.net. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] wiki pages
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 00:36:43 + Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels I’m not sure suggesting removing two out of three kernels is a good idea. I think you should retain two kernel versions just in case an update borks one The general advice I've always had is to keep your most recent working kernel as well as the new one. If people wish to disagree, then I will happily update that page. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/AlternateInstall Update Lubuntu link doesn’t go to the correct page. Thanks, link has been updated Well done all concerned I know what a pain documentation is. -- Thanks for taking the time Steve, it is appreciated. All the links appear to point in the right direction and, apart from the Remove old kernels page all appears OK. I have followed the instructions as I reinstalled Lubuntu to a machine this afternoon. I’ll have a go at writing a 'Remove old kernels using Synaptic' page over Christmas. Wouldn’t it be nice if there was a setting in Synaptic where you could specify the No of kernels you wished to keep :) The only remaining problem I can see is the inconsistent use of capital letters in headings. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] wiki pages
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 20:10:45 + Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, December 23, 2010, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: I’ll have a go at writing a 'Remove old kernels using Synaptic' page over Christmas. Wouldn’t it be nice if there was a setting in Synaptic where you could specify the No of kernels you wished to keep :) Suggest it on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com I seem to remember it being on there, or somewhere. I’ll see if I can hunt it down and revitalise the idea. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Backports for 10.10 (Maverick) and 10.04 (Lucid)
On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:05:27 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le mardi 21 décembre 2010 à 10:35 +, Yorvyk a écrit : Maybe I’m missing something but, I have the Backports PPA and pcmanfm2 0.97 isn’t getting upgraded to pcmanfm 0.98 in Lucid 10.04.1 No, I mean it's not done yet for pcmanfm2 :) I need to set-up another PPA (which doesn't exist yet) and put all Lubutnu specific stuff. pcmanfm2 is a Lubuntu specific stuff because it was introduced only in the Lubuntu PPA. OK, that makes sense. As I thought I misunderstood what the PA was for then. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Sylpheed and SPAM
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 00:11:37 +0200 Benny Hult be...@graniitti.net wrote: Seems to be like that the Sylpheed doesnt have a spam filter for mails when using default installation. Which one to use from the two of the choices? Could it be added for the 11.04? bogofilter would be my choice, although I tend to rely on my email supplier to do spam filtering these days. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Backports for 10.10 (Maverick) and 10.04 (Lucid)
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 17:27:15 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, If you are using the LXDE backport PPA [1], you will receive some updates :) It contains all the changes done to LXDE components in Natty, backported to Maverick and Lucid. If you want to test new LXDE stuff from Natty, without upgrading all your desktop to Natty (which not really recommends for a non-testing configuration ATM), you can use this PPA. This is also part of the longer support we will offer for 10.04 users. Regards, Julien Lavergne [1] : https://launchpad.net/~lxde/+archive/ppa Good work. But, pcmanfm doesn’t get updated in 10.04 because it has pcmanfm2. What to do. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] All clear - Natty users/testers Do Not update sudo currently!
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 23:59:00 + Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 23:07:10 + Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: A warning has just gone up in Ubuntu+1 not to update sudo at the moment as there is a problem that will prevent you using sudo so you may not be able to update later. Solution to the problem: Boot a live cd, mount your root disk and echo %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL /etc/sudoers to /etc/sudoers on your root disk, of course Should have sent this earlier. The problem is now gone so update to your hearts content (and watch something else break :D ) -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Focus Groups - UBT
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 05:49:58 + Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hiyas Pen and Julien, As promised I did raise the matter of Focus Groups for both Accessibility and Lubuntu. Julien, Whilst I had been granted permission to liase on behalf of Lubuntu, I'd appreciate a confirmation that I have the authority to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FGCreation for Lubuntu. Pen, you would have to have to the same process for accessibility. From the temporary channel for the voice control accessibility I've been steering the devs into not going 'pure gnome', so that we can use it across all flavours, Manuela has made outstanding progress in the 3 days the project has been alive. Head strong that lady may be, but has a passion that has awoken dormant fires in other people. I really would like to see such a project, as a part of and reporting to accessibility, succeed and be something we could 'bolt on' to lubuntu. Whilst our developers time is short and precious, I do honestly believe that with help from other teams we could attain it. Please let me know you thoughts, from both teams. So that’s what all the bits of chatter in #lubuntu-offtopic have been about. Looks like a damn good idea. I’d be happy to help with the Lubuntu beginners group type thing. Congrats on getting them set up. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Jared (head-victim)
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 07:23:51 + Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi gang :) I am very proud to announce that Jared (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris) has been accepted as a member of UBT (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam). Well done Jared :D -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Basics of Bug Triaging
Don’t forget, for those that are interested, that this is this evening (or whatever time of day it is in your time zone). On Wednesday, December 15th 2010 at 17:00 UTC we welcome Bug Control member Mohamed Amine IL Idrissi (devildante) for a class on the Basics of Bug Triaging. In order to prepare for this class our instructor has requested that you have a launchpad.net account, which is required for Ubuntu bug triaging. The class will take place in #ubuntu-classroom on irc.freenode.net (#ubuntu-classroom-chat for questions). -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Natty users/testers Do Not update sudo currently!
A warning has just gone up in Ubuntu+1 not to update sudo at the moment as there is a problem that will prevent you using sudo so you may not be able to update later. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Natty users/testers Do Not update sudo currently!
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 23:07:10 + Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: A warning has just gone up in Ubuntu+1 not to update sudo at the moment as there is a problem that will prevent you using sudo so you may not be able to update later. Solution to the problem: Boot a live cd, mount your root disk and echo %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL /etc/sudoers to /etc/sudoers on your root disk, of course -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxde on slax
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:49:29 +0100 Rafael Laguna rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote: How can Slax have Trash and Home icons on an LXDE desktop? Did they compiled a fork? In their changelog: |- latest LXDE delivered by Ponce| I'm s surprised. http://www.slax.org/forum.php?action=viewparentID=70793 I’m obviously missing something, as I can’t see anything on that link about this. Besides it’s easy enough to do. Just create the appropriate .desktop files in the Desktop folder. Personally, I see no worth or merit in desktop icons anyway as I can’t see the desktop for applications when I’m using the computer. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxde on slax
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:51:23 + Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=106f=22 http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=106f=22May help On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Rafael Laguna rafaellag...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, I know, but most people (who came from Windows) would like to see a (working) Trash and a My PC or something like that to access. That's why Windows 7 was so cold for them, it showed an empty desktop that confused a lot of users. But I don't really know if that Slax trash works (changes its status). But that still doesn’t explain the need for a Rubbish Bin icon on the desktop. It all seems a bit OMGubuntu to me. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Bugs Day on Friday, what you can do
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 14:35:38 + Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 11 December 2010 11:28, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le mardi 07 décembre 2010 à 22:34 +0100, Julien Lavergne a écrit : Next Friday will be the first Bugs Day for Lubuntu. Anyone can participate, even if you have no coding knowledge. Just a quick summarize of the Bugs day of yesterday. We have some participation from several people, which help on some different items. We had several bugs closed, and several reported (include one with an idea for the fix). I'm pretty happy with the result. I didn't expect many people for this 1st day, so I was happy to see people working on bugs yesterday :) I hope it will encourage people to work on bugs, even outside the bug days :) Hi Julien, That's excellent news. I'm not a programmer and cannot even run Lubuntu at the moment (which is very frustrating). Each time I popped onto the channel you all seemed busy bug hunting :) Hug a Bug days are a really great way for people to be able to explain 'paper-cuts' as well as bugs. I know I speak for the whole of the Lubuntu user base on my thanking you for making the time to be on-line and respond to those who have found bugs. It was useful, and fun. For those who would like to help with bug triaging there is a session in #ubuntu-classroom on irc.freenode.net, Basics of Bug Triaging on Wed 15th December at 17:00 UTC. Remember you don’t have to be a programmer to do this, it’s something anybody can do. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] incorrect link on lubuntu.org
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 05:01:14 +0700 Mario Behling m...@mariobehling.de wrote: Thank you. I corrected it. Mario Ta -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] incorrect link on lubuntu.org
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 23:02:14 + Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 05:01:14 +0700 Mario Behling m...@mariobehling.de wrote: Thank you. I corrected it. Mario Ta Should’ve checked first before thanking you :) It’s the link for release notes under 'get lubuntu', on the front page. It should point to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat and not https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/LucidLynx -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Bugs Day on Friday, what you can do
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 22:34:10 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, Next Friday will be the first Bugs Day for Lubuntu. Anyone can participate, even if you have no coding knowledge. Let's see what you can do : Is this today? * You can support us ! By providing virtual cookies and virtual beers, but also real thank you :) I have tea and scones :) * You can just play with Lubuntu Natty Alpha 1, and see if there are bugs, broken applications etc ... We will help you to report a real bug ! * You can try to reproduce already reported bug, and set its status as Confirmed. * You can provide more information on a bug you can reproduce : * Step to reproduce * Screenshots * Backtrace (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace) * ... * If you feel confortable with bug reports, you can triage bugs : * Merge duplicate * Affect to correct package source * Ask for more information * ... * If you know how to code, you can fix bugs ! It's Lubuntu Bugs Day, so all this apply to Lubuntu packages only. You can find all the bugs on this page : https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-packaging/+packagebugs I'll monitor the #lubuntu chan during Friday, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask or to ping me. If you are already interesting, feel free to answer this mail, and say what you want to do. Thanks in advance for your participation :) Regards, Julien Lavergne -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 1 Aministrative password wrong
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:09:23 +0100 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: Am Sonntag 05 Dezember 2010, um 23:41:38 schrieb Steve: On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 22:08:48 -, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: Just got Natty Alpha 1 installed and when I try to start any program that requires my password the response is 'Incorrect password... try again.' Clearly the password is correct as I wouldn’t be able to log in and it works in a terminal. Try running: passwd and set it to something new to test No change I’m afraid. Users and Groups, along with Disk Utility accept the password but, Synaptic and Update manager don’t. So my original message about 'any program' was wrong. Is your user in the group wheel and is wheel activated to use sudo (see /etc/sudoers with roots right) ? That looks OK. Tried creating a newer user, same problem. Interestingly I installed Lubuntu on ye olde laptop using the minimal install method and got the same problem. I have now done a new install on the original machine and all looks good so far. I don’t think this is worth worrying about too much at this point in the cycle. Unless others have the same problem. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] trash can question
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 08:16:55 +0100 Zoltan Matlak matlakz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is it possible to add trash can to desktop or to task bar? Or the only way to access it is from the file manager? Just open up leafpad and put the following in: [Desktop Entry] Type=Application Version=1.0 Name=Trash Exec=pcmanfm trash:/// Icon=emptytrash Terminal=false Save it as trash.desktop on the Desktop. The Desktop should then show a Trash icon, which will open pcmanfm. Right clicking won’t work though. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] trash can question
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 14:40:38 +0100 Zoltan Matlak matlakz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Basically what you guys suggested is to create a shortcut to pcmanfm trash. This works. Basically the link looks like it's a real trash, but it doesn't behave like one. So there is no way to create a real trash can outside the file manager? Thanks Zoltan In a word, no. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Next IRC meeting - Dec 01, 17h GMT
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 06:48:57 +0200 Benny Hult be...@graniitti.net wrote: On 12/02/2010 01:56 AM, Yorvyk wrote: On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 20:00:10 +0100 Julien Lavergnegi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Logs, and actions are available on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Meetings/20101201 Short term actions : - Set archiver to file-roller in lubuntu seed and default handler for archive in lubuntu-default-settings - Remove cheese from the lubuntu seed - Call for testing for guvcview on the mailing list - Set LightDM to the Lubuntu seed when it's available in Natty and majors bugs are solved - Add pcmanfm control-center to the menu - Replace aqualung with audacious and audacious-plugins in lubuntu seed and default applications See the logs for additional informations. Sorry I couldn’t be there but, you seem to have managed with out me :P I’ ve had a quick glance through the logs and a they seem to be reasonable decisions. When can we expect the first Alpha release? I upgraded to Natty a little while back but, would like a 'clean' start for testing. Schedule says: December 2nd : Alpha 1 February 3rd : Alpha 2 February 24th : Feature Freeze (no more new stuff and new version) March 3rd : Alpha 3 March 17th : End of proposal for artwork March 22nd : Decision for Artwork March 31st : Beta 1 April 7th : Documentation / String Freeze April 14th : Final Freeze (only critical changes) April 21st : RC (or Beta 2)* April 28th : Final release (or Beta Final)* Taken from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers#Schedule I'm waiting Julien to inform that the Alpha 1 is ready and the apt-get is singing in here ;) Thanks Benny, I forgot a schedule had been produced. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu v. LXDE
On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 12:33:14 -0500 Todd Schulman schulmaa...@gmail.com wrote: 2. Can it be configured to use right-click menus like fluxbox instead of a start menu? Right click the desktop Desktop settings Advanced is that the menu you require? I’ve not used fluxbox for ages and can’t remember what the menu looks like. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Next IRC meeting - Dec 01, 17h GMT
On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 20:00:10 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Logs, and actions are available on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Meetings/20101201 Short term actions : - Set archiver to file-roller in lubuntu seed and default handler for archive in lubuntu-default-settings - Remove cheese from the lubuntu seed - Call for testing for guvcview on the mailing list - Set LightDM to the Lubuntu seed when it's available in Natty and majors bugs are solved - Add pcmanfm control-center to the menu - Replace aqualung with audacious and audacious-plugins in lubuntu seed and default applications See the logs for additional informations. Sorry I couldn’t be there but, you seem to have managed with out me :P I’ ve had a quick glance through the logs and a they seem to be reasonable decisions. When can we expect the first Alpha release? I upgraded to Natty a little while back but, would like a 'clean' start for testing. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Applications by default : control-center
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:06:49 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le lundi 22 novembre 2010 à 19:19 +, Yorvyk a écrit : That’s not so bad, as you wouldn’t/shouldn’t really be running it with anything else running. As for CPU usage, it uses between 10 and 20% plus the application it calls. It’s one major concern to me is the pregnant pause between clicking some thing and anything happening, this can be anything from 3-5 secs. on my machine. I think it is something worth keeping an eye on to see how it develops. I talked with the creator of this control center. He made a version without effects. You can find it on http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/control-center/ You can launch it in a terminal : Normal mode: tuquito-control-center Faster mode: tuquito-control-center fast Could you test on your machine if it's faster ? Noticeably faster, no unpleasant pause now. Still not sure which CC I prefer though, both have virtues. Due to Parental Control being required this PPA needs to be enabled. https://launchpad.net/~paquetes-tuquito/+archive/universal -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu removes windows from Grub
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:05:24 -0400 Lee Gold leeg...@operamail.com wrote: Hi, Whenever I install Lubuntu 10.10 w/a windows partition side by side, after the 1st update the windows is gone from the grub menu. Only happens with Lubuntu and happens consistently. Will this ever be fixed? Know problem. Install os-prober 'apt-get install os-prober' then run 'sudo update-grub'. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Applications by default : lightDM instead of LXDM
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:34:20 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, For now, we have LXDM as display manager, but I would like to try lightDM for this cycle. lightDM have several advantages : - It's cross-platform, means other desktops may use it and support it. - It'll proposed for inclusion is Ubuntu in natty+1, and if it succeed, it means also more support. Support is important for this piece of software, because it's more complex than a standard desktop application. It's also important to have testers because it needs to deal with many different configurations and situations. Another advantage : lightDM doesn't depends directly on GNOME component, only the greeter (the login screen) who use have those depends. And there is already a greeter which is similar to the LXDM one (thanks PCMan :)) You can read more on lightDM on the homepage [1] or on the blog of the author [2]. You can also see the blueprint for inclusion in standard Ubuntu [3]. Also, I already plan to continue to maintain LXDM, so if lightDM is not ready for 11.04, we will have the possibility to switch back to LXDM. A version to test it in a real installation will be available in the Lubuntu Desktop PPA in several days. LightDM seems promising and I think that, if it is ready, would be a good option. I would have to try it to give a proper response. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Applications by default : remove Cheese
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:37:02 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, I would like to remove cheese from the installation by default. There is 2 main reasons : - It's not strictly necessary, except for testing the webcam and taking photos. We don't need the fancy effects by default. - It will require Clutter in the next version, which is something that should not be included in Lubuntu (like Compiz and Pulseaudio ...). Not really used it myself but if it is going to require Clutter then it may as well go now. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Applications by default: Replace xarchiver by file-roller
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:23:14 +0100 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: Am Sonntag 21 November 2010, 11:40:08 schrieb Julien Lavergne: Hi, I would like to open the discussion on the archiver. On my 2 systems using Lubuntu, one of the first thing I do is replacing xarchiver by file-roller. For me, the GUI is better and it's easier to use. There is also no extra GNOME depends. I would like to know if people tested it on a small configuration, to see if the behaviour is also good enough. +1 for this. file-roller seems the only graphical application that handles rar archives ,that need a password to list its contents, properly. All the others seem to fail here. This is the only obvious advantage of file-roller over Xarchiver. I’ll try file- on an older machine and see if there are an obvious problems. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Applications by default : control-center
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:03:24 +0100 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote: Both are really good apps. LCC has a feature: simplicity and no additional or unnecessary options (like Docky over CairoDock), and TuquitoCC is fancy, has more options and can control any GTK desktop. Another app for putting in the Seed for polling. :D Tuquito is rather nice, perhaps too good with it’s 3d type effects. It is, however, a bit slow to respond to clicks on slower 300MHz machine. LCC is quite simple but, as was pointed out elsewhere and will require an update to add a new app. I think this is an important thing to have and does neeed to be simple to maintain. Whichever one is chosen will it mean the menu entries for the apps. it controls can be removed to simplify the main menu. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Deadbeef in Lubuntu PPA
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:47:18 + Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:13:22 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le lundi 15 novembre 2010 à 09:43 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : But let me tell you that the behaviour of Audacious compared to these two others is far better. Is there something that i'm missing with this program? I also try audacious, and the result was not so fantastic : CPU 22%, RAM 27 Mb. It's similar to aqualung. To see a real boost ... try to use gnome-mplayer : CPU 6%, RAM 15 Mb ! But the bad point is that the GUI is not really good when you use it as a music player. I’ve tried Audacious as well, and get results some where in between Aqualung and DeadBeef. As I said earlier, there isn’t really much to choose from between them and none really shines above the others. Don’t know why I sent the previous message before finishing it. I have used Aqualung, Audacious DeadBeef throughout today for listening to a great variety of music, podcasts and the live stream of Linux Outlaws. and all of them coped perfectly well. The one area they struggled with was the initial scanning of my music collection, currently nearly 28,000 tracks at 200 GiB. I abandoned it after a couple of hours as none appeared to be more than ⅓ the way through, Rhythmbox only takes 2 hours from a clean install. I don’t really organise my music with the player, so didn’t investigate that side of things. Generally I just want the player to play tracks at random while I’m working at the computer and all of them did this. I’ll leave others, who need play lists, etc. to discuss those aspects. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Zentyal
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:40:24 + Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: It may be a low resource gui but running an X server adds extra services running which lowers security. There are also more things that can crash and hang the system. Fewer complications make a better server. Depends what the server is used for. In smaller businesses a modern server really doesn’t get 'hammered' that much. Personally, I'd tend to agree, but people coming across from Windows expect a GUI on a machine. A lot of modern Windows users never ever even look at the command line have no idea how to use one - so a server that boots to nothing but a command line is going to be seen as scary and intimidating. For the smaller business, with out a computer expert, a GUI is what they need and why Windows Servers are used. I know one business where this software may be just the thing they’re looking for. They’ve been using OOo, Firefox and Thunderbird, on XP, for some time. They’ve been using Ubuntu on one machine for a few months and are considering moving all machines to it, so an Ubuntu based server with a GUI would compliment their IT needs very nicely. Zentyal makes a decent effort in this direction. A modern server will have gigs of RAM, a several-gigaHertz CPU and a graphics card, because you simply can't build a machine without these things any more. They picked a really lightweight desktop and stripped it right out to put Zentyal together, and that seems a good choice to me. That is basically the spec of the server they have, overkill for what it does I would like it if it were an optional install, to be honest, but it worked fine on a couple of test machines for me. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Deadbeef in Lubuntu PPA
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 00:39:33 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le mercredi 10 novembre 2010 à 23:36 +, Andrew Woodhead a écrit : Deadbeef is the nuts. I can't rate it highly enough :) But you should be more verbose than this if you want to convince us :) A quick test of the two, using a two song play list with one each mp3 ogg gave: Deadbeef80% CPU usage 23 MB RAM Aqualung50% CPU usage 26 MB RAM -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Refreshing directory content
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 22:21:21 +0100 (CET) e...@pixelate.pl wrote: Hey. I don't know, if that was reported, but I noticed following situation: when I'm working on any directory, and creating new directory in current, after putting name for it, and accepting, content of current directory is not refreshing. I can understand, if it is remote directory or sshfs resource, but it happen in local fs. Which version of Lubuntu and PCManFm as I’ve no problems with lubuntu 10,04 and 10.10 using PCManFM 0.97 and 0.98, -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] People having trouble with dualboots?
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 08:29:42 + Glenn de Groot glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi zoltan, nice to hear your problem is solved now. This problem is pretty big for first time users and I think affects every dual-boot user. Should we post this (with the fix) on the lubuntu website or on a blog like OMG ubuntu? I’ve not had this problem, all the other (Linux) OS have been picked up by GRUB. But, if others are, then the cure should be in the Wiki. Personally, I don’t regard OMG Ubuntu as a reliable source. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] People having trouble with dualboots?
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:39:27 + Glenn de Groot glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com wrote: Are you using 10.10?It only seems to be found in Lubuntu 10.10.And do you have a windows partition, is it found by grub? Yes No -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Strange (and good) behaviour on Lubuntu 10.04
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:58:10 -0300 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi people: I just want to ask you all: am i the only one that since the last kernel actualization for 10.04 is expriencing an increase of battery time of about a 30%?? Is it normal that my battery now stand for almost 2 hours and never before it passed 1:20??? There are updates to the power management arriving all the time and it would appear you’ve been the lucky recipient of an update that benefits your machine. Also very weird, my ram consumption now is about 125RAM... and before it was under 90... Probably due to changes in memory management in the kernel. Unless it has a detrimental effect I wouldn’t worry about it. In fact it may be helping the battery as the more 'stuff' in memory means less disk access. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Alternate Installer Disk - Problems
Not got permissions to use external drives. Using users-admin 'Advanced Setting' doesn’t work, no authentication dialogue appears. So unable to alter permissions. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 19:33:46 +0100 Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hiyas Julien, thanks for the chat and I hope the UDS goes well. Is there still the torrent feed for 10.04, or are we going to have to rely solely on the server(s) ? I still have my copy, so can fairly quickly resurrect a 10.04 page up on the documentation area. There is and there has been an increase in people using it over that last few days. http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-10.04.iso.torrent -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Prepare UDS for Natty
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 01:34:21 +0100 Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hiyas Yorvyk, I can discuss with you what back up solutions I have found, just drop me a note. I did discuss backing up during the early part of the 10.10 cycle. I'd be interested to hear your solutions. What I’m after is a solution (simple) for a single machine and another for networked machines. I’m currently using a rather messy scripted thing based on rsync and really need some thing better. The solution for single machines must be easy to use for naive users. I’d like to keep the discussion on-line so others may benefit, or chip in, unless you’ve reasons not to. Best start a new thread I think. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] a bug in lxandr
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 01:48:21 +0100 Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hiyas gang, well this sums it up (01:35:51) Mountian_Man: I have two users who need large letters for their poor vision. while the other two of us, would really prefer fitting as much info on the screen as possible. however i havnt found a way to save resolution preferences per user. the only way i can find to adjust the resolution, does so for all user. :( (01:39:56) Mountian_Man: I am sorry, I am still learning linux. it is the default. the cammand (when i looked under propperties of the icon) is lxrand i think sorry ditracted by toddler (01:40:12) phillw: Mountian_Man: If they sign on as different users it should save their profiles (01:41:12) phillw: lxrand is the one to alter screen properties, however it should remember them for each user. (01:41:48) Mountian_Man: nope i have signed in as each user individually and it adjusts the resolution for all. (preferencesmonitor settings) As they said in Apollo 13, Euston, we have a problem But that was rocket science, this is far more complicated :D A solution/bodge. Create a Desktop file in .config/autostart for each user with the required resolution. e.g. [Desktop Entry] Name=SetScreenResolution Comment=Set screen resolution using XRandR Exec=xrandr --output default --mode 1024x768 Just change the 'mode 1024x768' for each user. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Prepare UDS for Natty
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 18:04:05 -0400 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:20:50 +0100 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: Discuss Backup solution (http://davestechshop.net/blog/dave/list-of-free-open-source-linux-and-ubuntu-backup-software) Backups? :P Plenty to go at. A simple point-and-click solution is the obvious way to go. Not a priority, but if there is a good lightweight solution, it could be good. As a member of the 'Must do a backup tomorrow society' :) it is something I’ll have to have a look at. Discuss CD/DVD Burn choice : Xfburn (xfce depends + hal) or Brasero (gnome depends but no hal) or something else ? Any thing HAL free as there seems to be no point in having HAL for just one program, could even be built into PcManFM The Any thing HAL free is actually limited to Brasero, I didn't find another good CD burner without HAL. TBH all my CD/DVD burning is done with k3b as this just seams to be the most reliable. I would like to see some discussion of the minimum, REALISTIC hardware requirements. It depends of the use, and sometimes the state of your hardware. It's not really easy to set an universal requierement, only experiments can help in this case. I was thinking more of the installation but now we have an alternate installer this is really a problem. Also a RSS reader might be nice, Liferea maybe. Ubuntu didn't have one, and Liferea is not really lightweight. Like Backup, if a good solution exist, why not. OK. Not a great problem for people to install if needed and I suppose there is probably some thing for Chromium that does this anyway. WBar, the launcher/dock thingy is rather nice and gives a modern feel to the desktop and may be worth considering. Lxpanel is a component which will be very difficult to remove, unless you have very very good reasons and a good benchmark. People I’ve shown Lubuntu to with WBar running wrere rather impressed and I thought it might just provide something different from the crowd. I use it in conjunction with the panel, which I move to the top. NumLockX installed by default would be very useful. to me any way. I know there’s a problem with it at the moment but, hopefully it will be solved. I suppose the thing to do, really, is to try and get rid of some of the annoying bugs in the config area, like the LXRandR one mentioned earlier. Have fun in the USA :D -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] minimal install.
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 19:12:17 +0100 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 18:48:10 +0100 Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hiyas gang, can some confirm the md5 is 1932a563c99ae40721d1f37c3804c372 for alternate disk, as the md5 checksum link reports a 404 error. head_injury has the documentation done over at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/AlternateInstall Again, any input on this would be welcome. Once I have couple of confirmations that things are okay, I'll release the little bugga into the world :D The little bugga has been available as a torrent for 20hrs now, thanks to Michał Ćwikliński http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-detailsid=807f8f3c72e0a179c3e23cf0c42f68007b2a2901 If you want to add that to the wiki. The lowest amount of RAM I got it to run on was 80KiB. It wouldn’t run on 64KiB, that may the the particular machine though. I’m trying on another machine now. That should have been MiB not KiB. The wiki states that 160MiB is the minimum for Ubiquity, this is true if you have a separate video card. For a machine with on-board video more memory is required, probably 192 MiB. The same appears to be true for the alternate installer. 80MiB with on-board video and 64 MiB with a separate card, although that is still running after 4hrs! -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] minimal install.
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:27:54 +0100 Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Once you or (head_injury confirms that it is okay on his VB installation), I'll release it into the wild and ask that it gets torrented up. Until then it is only on my server area. iWeb are okay with me hosting beta stuff for the lubuntu project, but obviously I do not to push my good will with them. It installs and functions :) Not tried it out fully yet but, can’t see any obvious problems. Will give it a through(ish) going over tonight and tomorrow and let all involved know how it goes. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lookin for a light dock
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:21:40 +0200 Rafael Laguna rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote: Try aDeskBar (sudo apt-get install adeskbar). It's really tiny, fast and no composite needed. ...or wBar (sudo apt-get install wbarconf). It's really tiny, fast and no composite needed. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:10:45 +0100 Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Julien, as we are the last post of support for older computers, to with Canonical and them dropping the support from the kernel for i586 and below that I thought that was the 'raison d'etre' for Lubuntu. We cannot turn our backs on these people. Just my 2 cents worth. Regards, Phill. On 21 October 2010 00:02, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 22:07:04 - Christian Stöveken launchpad@excogitation.de wrote: Hey, I just tried installing Lubuntu 10.10 on a K6 450 notebook and ran into the cmov missing problem. Since this distribution is designed to run on low end machines cmov support should be compiled into the kernel (imho). I just wanted to check if you're already aware of the missing cmov support in recent kernels. Sadly, yes. See this thread https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg02587.html We’ll probably have to support 10.04 for a bit longer for these machines. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] minimal install.
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:22:27 +0100 Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hiyas Gang, the iso has been safely installed onto my server area and the md5 checks out okay. (Many thanks to bioterror for doing the transfer) The link is http://phillw.net/lubuntu-alternate-10.10.iso If some one could confirm that it installs I'll put on to the wiki area. The md5 is at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2351433/Lubuntu-Alternate/lubuntu-10.10-alternate.iso.md5which I'll transfer over once I know the iso works. Wonderful! :D ...apart from the links not working :( -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 22:07:04 - Christian Stöveken launchpad@excogitation.de wrote: Hey, I just tried installing Lubuntu 10.10 on a K6 450 notebook and ran into the cmov missing problem. Since this distribution is designed to run on low end machines cmov support should be compiled into the kernel (imho). I just wanted to check if you're already aware of the missing cmov support in recent kernels. Sadly, yes. See this thread https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg02587.html -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on Intel and i586
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 00:20:54 -0400 Ben Coleman olo...@benshome.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/14/2010 07:24 PM, Benny Hult wrote: But it lacks with packages if you compare to Lubuntu. Hope we can see you using Lubuntu still in the future, becouse the grass ain't greener on the other side of the fence ;) Well, turns out that my other Lubuntu candidate (A Compaq Armada 7800 running a PII/266) is i686-class despite being slower than the AMD, so Lubuntu 10.10 should run OK on it, if I can manage to burn a Lubuntu CD-R that it will read (the CDROM reader on this machine tends to be a bit finicky, and it's old enough that I don't think that it will boot from USB Flash). It is unfortunate this problem as it mainly effects AMD chips as far as I can gather. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/587186I One solution if you want to run Lubuntu on the 586 machine would be to use the10.04 (Lucid) version, which is what I’ve done on a couple of machines. If you’re having problems with the CD drive it may be worth looking at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ which has a couple of ways of booting flash drives, using either a floppy http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/#more-294 or CD. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on Intel and i586
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:51:42 +0200 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: Am 15.10.2010 06:20, schrieb Ben Coleman: On 10/14/2010 07:24 PM, Benny Hult wrote: But it lacks with packages if you compare to Lubuntu. Hope we can see you using Lubuntu still in the future, becouse the grass ain't greener on the other side of the fence ;) Well, turns out that my other Lubuntu candidate (A Compaq Armada 7800 running a PII/266) is i686-class despite being slower than the AMD, so Lubuntu 10.10 should run OK on it, if I can manage to burn a Lubuntu CD-R that it will read (the CDROM reader on this machine tends to be a bit finicky, and it's old enough that I don't think that it will boot from USB Flash). There is a trick to it. You must create a Live-CD and a Live USB Stick. Pop in the CD and try booting from the cd until you see the bootmenu. Stick in the USB Live Stick. Now you need to act fast. Press Enter to boot. Wait until the message Loading xyz ... displays on your screen. Now pop out the cd-rom and it will then boot from usb key. It's a nice trick to get any computer with cdrom drive boot from usb. Try as I might I cannot get that to work -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on Intel and i586
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:03:44 +0100 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:06:12 +0200 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: There is a trick to it. You must create a Live-CD and a Live USB Stick. Pop in the CD and try booting from the cd until you see the bootmenu. Stick in the USB Live Stick. Now you need to act fast. Press Enter to boot. Wait until the message Loading xyz ... displays on your screen. Now pop out the cd-rom and it will then boot from usb key. It's a nice trick to get any computer with cdrom drive boot from usb. Try as I might I cannot get that to work Doesn't it detect the usb stick or does it fail even to go into init ? Doesn’t see detect the USB stick. Hmm... then it shouldn't even detect usb sticks after a complete boot from livecd. Is this correct ? They are detected by the live CD once it boots but it takes quite a while to detect them, USB 1.1. Tried a different machine. It starts to work, the USB stick’s lights flash, but then the screen blanks and nothing else happens. I will have another go another day and make a different stick to see what happens. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Prepare UDS for Natty
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:37:40 +0200 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, The next UDS (Ubuntu Developpers Summit [1]) will be at Orlando, between 25th and 29th October. I will be their to discuss Ubuntu and Lubuntu development. For now, I only want to registered a blueprint for discussion : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appselection-lubuntu-n-lubuntu-seed-update If you want to add your comment on it, feel free to add a comment on this mailing list. Also, if you think we should discuss other topics, let us know :) And if you are at the UDS, ping me so we can also drink a good beer ! :) Work items: Discuss Backup solution (http://davestechshop.net/blog/dave/list-of-free-open-source-linux-and-ubuntu-backup-software) Backups? :P Plenty to go at. A simple point-and-click solution is the obvious way to go. Discuss CD/DVD Burn choice : Xfburn (xfce depends + hal) or Brasero (gnome depends but no hal) or something else ? Any thing HAL free as there seems to be no point in having HAL for just one program, could even be built into PcManFM Discuss notifications program (XFCE or keep classic notification) Hmmm. Discuss indicators support on by default + indicators installed by default (need integration on LXDE) Would be usefulif they could be integrated into LXDE. Discuss LightDM integration instead of LXDM Hmmm. Discuss keymap switcher : lxkeymap, lxkeyboardconf (lxadmin), support in lxinput ? Not a problem that effects me so best left to those that need it. Discuss control-center : lubuntu-control-center ? Centralised Control Centre and removal of the various bits from the menus would be great. Discuss utility to modify and save screen settings (using https://edge.launchpad.net/x-kit ?) Been looking at this, looks like a very good idea if it can be implemented. Discuss search utility (catfish ?) Never really made up my mind about this sort of thing as I tend to use find and locate form the CLI, but, can see why some would like it. Discuss a way to modify the main menu (port alacarte ?) Not some thing I’ve really done is edit the menus so no real interest. I would like to see some discussion of the minimum, REALISTIC hardware requirements. Also a RSS reader might be nice, Liferea maybe. WBar, the launcher/dock thingy is rather nice and gives a modern feel to the desktop and may be worth considering. And finally we’ll have to have a discussion/flamewar :) about a music player:D -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Update-Manager Restart Button Not Working
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:16:59 +0200 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le mardi 12 octobre 2010 à 20:03 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : Update-Manager Restart Button Not Working Just filed a bug (Bug #659413) report for the above. A bit confusing for less experienced users, as I witnessed today. Update-manager probably use a Gnome or a GDM function to reboot. If you can isolate the command which is used, we can add the support for Lubuntu. I’ve filed it against both XFCE and LXDE so hopefully somebody will come up with a solution. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
