Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] This mailing list will be closed SOON !

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

I have posted the reminder below on Lubuntu One Stop Thread, Lubuntu Page
on G+ and on Lubuntu Page on Facebook.

I think most of the users will be informed if not all.

@Julien
I suggest to wait until next week and then do whatever you like :) let's
give them one last chance to check their emails, etc.

Thanks!




On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:49 AM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:

> There you go:
>
> Hi,
>
> It's official, we have a new mailing list :)
>
> lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
>
> *If you want to continue to follow the lubuntu discussions, please
> subscribe to this new mailing list (See
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ).*
>
> The lubuntu-desktop mailing should not be used now for new discussions,
> and the team will be close soon.
>
> Thanks for your attention :)
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Chris  wrote:
>
>> *IMPORTANT NOTICE*
>>
>> The subscribe link is missing from lists.ubuntu.com !
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>> I believe Unit193 has the link somewhere to subscribe and otherwise it's
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>> With metta, Chris
>> On Jan 19, 2012 6:11 AM, "Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Where to suscribe to the new list?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] This mailing list will be closed SOON !

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

There you go:

Hi,

It's official, we have a new mailing list :)

lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com

*If you want to continue to follow the lubuntu discussions, please
subscribe to this new mailing list (See
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ).*

The lubuntu-desktop mailing should not be used now for new discussions, and
the team will be close soon.

Thanks for your attention :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Chris  wrote:

> *IMPORTANT NOTICE*
>
> The subscribe link is missing from lists.ubuntu.com !
>
> I believe Unit193 has the link somewhere to subscribe and otherwise it's
> in the mark archive of this list.
>
> With metta, Chris
> On Jan 19, 2012 6:11 AM, "Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset" 
> wrote:
>
>> Where to suscribe to the new list?
>>
>> -- jpxsat
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Marketing Team?

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hello Phill :)

I thought so but was in need to check :)
Oh right, it means I'm involved too as long as I'm a member of The
Communication Team :P GREAT!

Since we are talking about "Marketing", I have a request or a question to
ask:
Is it possible to have T-Shirt with Lubuntu Printed on? Mugs? stuff like
that? anything I could use over here to convert people to Linux and
Lubuntu? that would be a great tool if you ask me.
I don't mind to wear that T-Shirt and walk daily and if no one will even
bother to ask, I'll talk about it :)

I have already started to talk about Linux and Lubuntu since a long time
but these days, I'm very serious to convert more people and talk more about
it.

I made this: https://www.facebook.com/WOWLubuntu but that's nothing and
won't be enough so I'm looking for person to person contact or whatever
they call it :)

I wonder if Canonical could do this? even if it's Ubuntu T-Shirts that will
do the job, I assume.

Thanks!

P.S.
I wish I could do these T-Shirts myself but that is way too much for
someone like me :P

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Hi Ali,
>
> comms will be looking after that. The Art-team do the fantastic banners
> and CD folder graphics along with their work on icons, themes etc. (Keeps
> them out of mischief :P ).
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On 18 January 2012 09:52, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> As far as I remember, we didn't talk yet about The Marketing Team, did
>> we? or maybe the communication team will do the marketing job?
>>
>> I see almost everything is set: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeamsand 
>> I hope things will be finalized soon and everyone will start working on
>> his/her area which is GREAT :)
>>
>> Thanks!
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Marketing Team?

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hi Everyone,

As far as I remember, we didn't talk yet about The Marketing Team, did we?
or maybe the communication team will do the marketing job?

I see almost everything is set:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeamsand I hope things will be
finalized soon and everyone will start working on
his/her area which is GREAT :)

Thanks!

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC and Dependencies Talk

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>
> ACTION WIKI: find a page on the wiki about installing software not aimed
> at a certain DE. E.g. installing ktouch inside Lubuntu, hopefully with
> system impact. If that page doesn't exists create one. Please reply if
> there isn't a page on the wiki before creating a new page. This is to keep
> me up-to-date.
>


Honestly, I did not search yet but I have made this guide few months ago
and I think it will be handy and helpful in case there is no page on the
Wiki.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1880394

Sorry, forgot to mention that earlier :)



On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Chris  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Firstly the discussion at hand: the MAIN reason why LSC was created is
> because USC is VERY heavyweight. While still having a similar simplified
> interface for installing software, it boots a lot faster. Secondly is
> Synaptic not the most intuitive way to install software. Showing a lot of
> technical (libs etc) between some of the packages you might want to
> install, LSC solves this by only showing the packages one would want to
> install and with a preview readily available. So it's not a means to only
> show packages "designed" for Lubuntu afaik.
>
> Thirdly this is a mainly a discussion in how LSC *could* or *should*
> preform, not about the wiki. When you guys have made a decision on what
> should be put on the wiki, please cc the wiki list. I could have the wiki
> group make a page about installing software in Lubuntu, referring to
> packages that depend on libs not included by default and what the impact
> could be, but their might already be a page about that on the "main" wiki
> which we could refer to.
>
> ACTION WIKI: find a page on the wiki about installing software not aimed
> at a certain DE. E.g. installing ktouch inside Lubuntu, hopefully with
> system impact. If that page doesn't exists create one. Please reply if
> there isn't a page on the wiki before creating a new page. This is to keep
> me up-to-date.
>
> With metta, Chris
>
> P.S.: Ali, you used the "old" lubuntu list, which will be deprecated
> shortly. I've cc'd the new list.
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 12:36, PCMan  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Before I reply to this post:
>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11613963&postcount=252
>>> I thought it's better to start such a discussion over here so that I
>>> understand better and we make it clear to everyone what is really going on.
>>>
>>> As far as I have learned so far and I could be wrong, the Dependencies
>>> Talk on a Low Resources System where usually Lubuntu is installed, is more
>>> about Space Issue than Loaded Files on RAM issue.
>>> I don't have a document or something that confirm that but I do know for
>>> sure that as long as nothing will be loaded in RAM, the performance won't
>>> be affected.
>>>
>>> I've come across MANY questions from users like: "This app has lots of
>>> dependencies, can I install it on Lubuntu? will that slow my system down??"
>>>
>>> For me, I can easily reply that post saying: "It's more about space
>>> issues than memory consuming issue + if you want, you can use the terminal
>>> for Synaptic."
>>>
>>
>> This is not necessarily true. Almost always, we add dependencies because
>> the program needs them at "runtime".
>> Most of time, these deps, especially the libraries, will be loaded at
>> runtime as well.
>> The most important issue is how much RAM is needed by programs constantly
>> running throughout the whole desktop session.
>> (web browser, panel, file manager, desktop manager, session manager,
>> other dbus services...)
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC and Dependencies Talk

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Hi,

I think there is a misunderstanding over here so allow me to clear and
explain that.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11613963&postcount=252

I was seeking a professional and official answer to the above post and I
hoped more developers will jump in. So Far, PCMan did so THANK YOU :) I'm
still waiting for others to share their opinion.

I'll summarize the questions:

1- To being with, is it true that the more dependencies any app has the
more load will be added to RAM and as a result a slower system?
*I THINK: if these dependencies will NOT be loaded, the performance will be
the same - obviously. However, I need a final answer so I can use it every
time someone will ask the same Question then add that to our FAQ section.*:)

2- If the answer of the above question is "Yes, the more dependencies the
slower performance" then is there anyway to tell the user which app is
light and which is not?
I THINK: a few words on the description for each app is more than enough
because after all, it's up to the user + it's up to his/her machine.

I was very much able to reply that post but ALL what I wanted is a team
work answer/reply, that is all :) my bad, I think I did a mistake :)

Using LSC instead of USC was not mentioned after all :)

As for using the old list, I'm still CONFUSED because I thought the old
list = for development (and stuff like that) talk and the new one for
general discussion.
Sorry again if I caused any confusion ... things are not very clear over
here!





On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Chris  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Firstly the discussion at hand: the MAIN reason why LSC was created is
> because USC is VERY heavyweight. While still having a similar simplified
> interface for installing software, it boots a lot faster. Secondly is
> Synaptic not the most intuitive way to install software. Showing a lot of
> technical (libs etc) between some of the packages you might want to
> install, LSC solves this by only showing the packages one would want to
> install and with a preview readily available. So it's not a means to only
> show packages "designed" for Lubuntu afaik.
>
> Thirdly this is a mainly a discussion in how LSC *could* or *should*
> preform, not about the wiki. When you guys have made a decision on what
> should be put on the wiki, please cc the wiki list. I could have the wiki
> group make a page about installing software in Lubuntu, referring to
> packages that depend on libs not included by default and what the impact
> could be, but their might already be a page about that on the "main" wiki
> which we could refer to.
>
> ACTION WIKI: find a page on the wiki about installing software not aimed
> at a certain DE. E.g. installing ktouch inside Lubuntu, hopefully with
> system impact. If that page doesn't exists create one. Please reply if
> there isn't a page on the wiki before creating a new page. This is to keep
> me up-to-date.
>
> With metta, Chris
>
> P.S.: Ali, you used the "old" lubuntu list, which will be deprecated
> shortly. I've cc'd the new list.
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 12:36, PCMan  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Before I reply to this post:
>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11613963&postcount=252
>>> I thought it's better to start such a discussion over here so that I
>>> understand better and we make it clear to everyone what is really going on.
>>>
>>> As far as I have learned so far and I could be wrong, the Dependencies
>>> Talk on a Low Resources System where usually Lubuntu is installed, is more
>>> about Space Issue than Loaded Files on RAM issue.
>>> I don't have a document or something that confirm that but I do know for
>>> sure that as long as nothing will be loaded in RAM, the performance won't
>>> be affected.
>>>
>>> I've come across MANY questions from users like: "This app has lots of
>>> dependencies, can I install it on Lubuntu? will that slow my system down??"
>>>
>>> For me, I can easily reply that post saying: "It's more about space
>>> issues than memory consuming issue + if you want, you can use the terminal
>>> for Synaptic."
>>>
>>
>> This is not necessarily true. Almost always, we add dependencies because
>> the program needs them at "runtime".
>> Most of time, these deps, especially the libraries, will be loaded at
>> runtime as well.
>> The most important issue is how much RAM is needed by programs constantly
>> running throughout the whole desktop session.
>>

[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC and Dependencies Talk

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hi everyone,

Before I reply to this post:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11613963&postcount=252
I thought it's better to start such a discussion over here so that I
understand better and we make it clear to everyone what is really going on.

As far as I have learned so far and I could be wrong, the Dependencies Talk
on a Low Resources System where usually Lubuntu is installed, is more about
Space Issue than Loaded Files on RAM issue.
I don't have a document or something that confirm that but I do know for
sure that as long as nothing will be loaded in RAM, the performance won't
be affected.

I've come across MANY questions from users like: "This app has lots of
dependencies, can I install it on Lubuntu? will that slow my system down??"

For me, I can easily reply that post saying: "It's more about space issues
than memory consuming issue + if you want, you can use the terminal for
Synaptic."

@Stefano
What do you think about specially the bold statement:

> It would be nice if the Lubuntu software centre let the user know which
> packages were also going to be installed, and also if somehow *it could
> tell the user if the package isn't really designed to go with Lubuntu*.
>


@Wiki and Doc Team
I think we need to highlight this issue because many are wondering and
asking the same Q over and over again.

Thank you!

P.S.
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[Lubuntu-desktop] WOW Lubuntu!

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hello Everyone,

amjjawad is back to action yet again :)
I'd like to start my activities with the new Lubuntu Sub Teams by creating
a new project called "WOW Lubuntu". This project has one main target and
aim: reach to as many users as possible.
I for one think that every user who has come across Lubuntu needs to return
the favor to such great system and to do that, he/she can simply JUST TALK
about Lubuntu and SHARE his/her experience/story with someone else.

I believe this is the right time for such move and I think the more we talk
and do for Lubuntu, the more support we shall get.
Lubuntu really deserves that, thus this simple and humble project is a
little pay-back for the great and amazing system (Lubuntu).

https://www.facebook.com/pages/WOW-Lubuntu/251544618247684

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hi,

I went through the whole thread (37 emails so far) and noticed very simple
thing that I already have noticed long time ago (I know what most of you
will say) which is: we do *NOT *have accurate database of Lubuntu Users in
general and those who are "still" using OLD machines and I mean VERY old
here.

I like such kind of discussion and I tend to agree with some opinions and
disagree with others but after all, this is very healthy activity
(discussion) but ... as always ... the real question is: isn't it pointless
to discuss such thing without REAL figures? some guys already pointed that
out, I guess.

Long story short, my simple and humble opinion is: we need a group of
people who do a survey to obtain such figures. No, I have no smart ideas of
HOWTO do that but if we could discuss about this, that would be VERY
helpful. Perhaps we are wasting our time here and there are only 2-3 users
with such old machines? for me, Lubuntu 10.04 didn't work on this:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590614 while Mint LXDE 9 did.
Both may be using the same kernel but I'm not really sure why Lubuntu
didn't work. Also, perhaps they are many users that will be affected with
that drop? so we need some figures.

Just a thought I'd like to share with all, as usual :)

Thanks!



On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Marvin Reimer wrote:

> Hi (my first post to a Lubuntu Maillinglist),
>
> I also had one minor problem with the PAE kernel.
> I'm running Lubuntu mainly in VMs (because it is faster than the heavier
> Ubuntu).
> When installing Lubuntu Precise in Virtualbox I had to turn on PAE support
> in the options (this was not a dealbreaker).
>
> But, when installing Virtualbox Guest Additions in Lubuntu Precise, the
> headers of the PAE kernel where missing so that the Guest Additions could
> not be installed.
>
> I recommend to include the PAE kernel headers in the base install so that
> some non advanced users can also install the Guest Additions easily.
>
> Marvin
>
> 2012/1/6 Steven 
>
>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Jared Norris  wrote:
>>
>>> On 6 January 2012 17:10, Steven  wrote:
>>> > Hi, I'm running Lubuntu on a non-PAE kernel too :)
>>> >
>>> > 1.4GHz Pentium M in a Dell Latitude D505 with 512MB RAM from 2004.
>>> It's my
>>> > main production machine and runs Lubuntu like a charm.
>>> >
>>> > I've been reading through the emails and irc logs, and it sounds like
>>> the
>>> > kernel team is maintaining the non-pae kernel in Precise (but not
>>> beyond),
>>> > but just not setting it as the default -- any chance someone can
>>> convince
>>> > them to make the non-pae kernel the default in just Lubuntu? Colin
>>> Watson
>>> > mentioned this as a possibility in the Technical Board meeting [1].
>>> >
>>> > -Steven
>>> >
>>> > [1]:
>>> http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-12-21.01.moin.txt
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Yorvyk 
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Steven,
>>>
>>> Running a PAE kernel and capable of running a PAE kernel are a couple
>>> of different things. I'd honestly be surpised if that CPU wasn't
>>> capable of running a PAE kernel. Are you able to run the command "grep
>>> pae /proc/cpuinfo" to see if it is capable of running a PAE kernel? If
>>> you get any output please paste it back if you're not sure what it
>>> means.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
>>>
>>
>>
>> That command doesn't give any output:
>> $ grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
>> $
>>
>> It was also apparent when I ran a Lubuntu Precise daily-live CD for the
>> first time the other day and got this:
>> "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
>> pae
>> Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU."
>>
>> -Steven
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Teams

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Phill,

I'm up and running now. I'm sorry, didn't reply our email that you sent
previously because I've been so busy and recovering slowly. I feel better
these days and I'm sick of being idle and want to do something interesting
:)

I think it's better to reply that Email to confirm that.

Thank you!

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> The Wiki / Docs team is now created [1] please feel free to ping me if you
> wish to join!
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
> [1] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
>
>> Hi wxl,
>>
>> I'll go create a wiki / Doc team on lp. You'll know when it's done as I
>> will add you!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:21 PM, ∅  wrote:
>>
>>>  One question: would love to add myself but can't. I have no problem
>>> editing the Lubuntu wiki, however. What am I missing?
>>>
>>> wxl/walter
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/02/2012 02:50 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Following the last meeting, I would like to expose my proposal for the
>>> teams to everyone.
>>>
>>> You can find the summary on this wiki page :
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams
>>>
>>> Currently, we have already :
>>> - The artwork team (Rafael and Alexander)
>>> - Testing / QA Team (see Phillw mail on the mailing list)
>>> - IRC Team (maybe not yet organised)
>>>
>>> If you have any comments / suggestions, feel free to answer this mail :)
>>> If there is no problem, we can start to work very soon with them.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Julien Lavergne
>>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Happy New Year 2012

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Hi Julien, Rafael and Everyone,

Happy New Lubuntu Year to ALL of you :) wish you all the best and hope
we'll keep dazzling the world in 2012 as we have done in 2011.

Thanks for the NEW Wallpaper, it's AMAZING :D

I'm so glad that I'm a part of this great team ... thank you for accepting
me in ... you'll never regret that ;)

amjjawad

http://i39.tinypic.com/6dticn.jpg

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> Hi,
>
> A quick mail to wish you all, a happy new year :-) 2011 was a very cool
> year for Lubuntu, let's hope 2012 will be also a happy year :-)
>
> Also, for people who are testing Precise, you should have, with today
> updates, a gift [1] from the Artwork Team, if you kept the default
> wallpaper ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> [1] For others, it's here :
>
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-art/+junk/lubuntu-artwork/download/117/lubuntudefaultwallpa-20111231173218-l0v3jypivw1jw0wl-1/lubuntu-default-wallpaper.png
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[Lubuntu-desktop] My Story in 2011

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Dear All,

In few words, I'd like to share my story in 2011 with you all.
2011 was A CRAZY YEAR and fill of lots of things that can't be summarized.
I admit it was full of screws up but TWO GREAT THINGS happened in 2011 that
changed my history, present and future.

In 2011, I found the real purpose and aim of my life that I shall spend my
life time ... each year, month, day, minute, second and nano second praying
and be very much grateful for that. The Steps that I have made in 2011,
unquestionably, the best step I've ever made, period. My one and only love,
you have supported me and still do ... you have never let me down and still
do ... you have never given up on me and still do ... no words and nothing
will express how much I'm grateful to you. *Happy New Love Year to
You* <3 *THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING IN MY LIFE* :)

In 2011, my interest, activity, understanding and experience in Linux has
grown up and it became so obvious how much I like Linux and what I'm
capable to do for it. Before that, I used to like everything and anything.
Was jumping here and there with no clear aim or purpose. That vanished and
faded away the moment I did the second great step in 2011 and joined
Lubuntu Team. I've never done something so right like that. I'm quite sure
I have finally done the RIGHT step and I shall never regret it.

Long story short, I'm the Happiest and the Luckiest man on earth with these
two huge achievements and I promise I shall improve that in 2012 :)

I'd like to show my appreciation to each and every member of this amazing
family ... no doubt Lubuntu is my second family. Thank you and I'm so much
proud to be with you :)

Special thanks to very special people here: Phill, Julien and Michael, you
guys are amazing .. THANK YOU for everything :)

May this year be much better for Lubuntu and each one of us ... God bless
you all and wish you all the best in the world. Happy New Year :)

I have made this little thing ... feel free to share it. Nothing much, I
made it with Photoshop in few mins because I was in hurry :P

http://i40.tinypic.com/5mdxe.jpg

Oh yes, my 2012 will definitely be special too ;)


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install issue in Wiki

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Keeping low profile for some days is VERY boring but I won't overdo it so
one reply and I'm off :)

>From what I understand:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download

If you read the above two links, you maybe a little bit confused and think
both are the same but in the matter of fact, these two installs are NOT the
same.

>From the first link:

The Minimal CD will download packages from online archives at installation
> time instead of providing them on the install CD itself. Downloading
> packages at install time reduces the size of the install CD to
> approximately 5 to 30MB depending on architecture (see below), as well as
> providing only the packages needed for installation. The download time
> savings achieved by using a Minimal CD can be significant, as only current
> packages are downloaded, so there is no need to upgrade packages
> immediately after installation. The Minimal CD uses a text-based installer
> like the Alternate CD, making the CD image as compact as possible.



>From the second link:

The text-based alternate installer can be downloaded from a location near
> you . This installation CD is
> suited for computers unable to run the graphical desktop based
> installation, either because their computer does not meet the minimum
> requirements for the live cd or because their computer requires
> configuration after the installation is complete in order to use the
> desktop.



This link here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
May give a better understanding.

>From what I understand, the mini install could be used not only for people
with low end hardware but also for those who seek simplicity and want to
build their system as per what they really need and avoid the extra stuff.
Once you have the base or the core system, you can install whatever you
want.

So, I'm with Jared and also happy to be proved wrong :)
If we are wrong, then the above two links MUST be updated and someone must
be more accurate.

By the way, last night, I was SO bored so I downloaded the mini iso and
installed it on one of my test PCs.  I managed to find a wired connection
(finally) because I always use the Wireless connection. I'm actually
planning to build a system that even lighter than Lubuntu (the one that we
all know). I'm planning to do some tests so later on I can install Lubuntu
instead of Linux Mint LXDE 9 on this:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590614

By the way, YES, that laptop does work until now. At that time, Lubuntu
10.04 did not work at all and I had less experience than now. I do want to
install Lubuntu and will do whatever it takes to do that.

Thank you everyone :)
Now, logging off.


@Phill
Once I can resume my normal activities, I'm going to finish my test with
the mini install and if I managed to do what I want, I'll write a simple
guide and add it to Lubuntu One Stop Thread :) if there will be more
details then I'll write a new thread and then add it to LOST.

:)


On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Jared Norris  wrote:

> On 28 December 2011 13:46, Hùng Trần  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just checked our Minimal Install guide
> > at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall.
> >
> > I don't know why we use "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends
> > lubuntu-desktop" command to install Lubuntu. With
> "--no-install-recommends"
> > we only have Lubuntu with PCManFM, Leafpad, LXTerminal, Synaptic, Update
> > Manager and Preferred Applications.
> >
> > As I understand, Minimal Install is for people who want to get a full
> > Lubuntu desktop by installing via a Ubuntu minimal CD or USB because they
> > can't use Ubiquity.
> > Using "--no-install-recommends" could make newbie confused when their
> > desktops almost have nothing.
> >
> > Regards,
> > TRẦN Duy Hùng
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> My understanding is different although I don't know which of us is
> correct. For mine if all you're trying to do is avoid Ubiquity then
> why not just use the alternate installer? To me the minimal
> installation is just that, the bare minimum. From what I understand
> the minimum install is aimed at REALLY low end computers or people not
> wanting to download lots of data over the internet. If you have a
> really low end computer you only want the bare minimum, if you don't
> want to download large ISOs why would you want to download all the
> other stuff anyway?
>
> I'm happy to be proved wrong but I just have a different understanding
> and hoping to clear the issue for both our sakes.
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Merry Christmas :)

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

To The BEST Team Ever,


Merry Christmas to you, wish you ALL the best in the world and may ALL your
dreams and wishes come true, AMEN!

This is the first time I join a Software Team that work so hard to develop
the most amazing OS that is Lubuntu. I'm proud to be here and so glad that
I can call myself a member of this great family :)

Happy Holidays and thanks for accepting me as a member in this wonderful
team!
I promise I shall carry on with what I have started and will do my best to
support Lubuntu, The Team and The Users.

YOU ARE THE BEST <3

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Super Key

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Sorry, its:
 */.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml*

Path is:  */.config/openbox*
File is:* **lubuntu-rc.xml*


On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:44 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Open your Home Folder and Press Ctrl+H
>
> Find this: */.config/openboxlubuntu-rc.xml*
>
> All Key bindings are all there :)
>
> I'm on Lubuntu 12.04 and the Menu shows up if I press the Super Key.
>
> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset <
> jpx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Pressing the Super key should show the start menu in 11.10 normally. I'm
>> not getting this behaviour on my lubuntu laptop :(
>> Is this a bug or i'm the only one with this issue?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Super Key

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Hi,

Open your Home Folder and Press Ctrl+H

Find this: */.config/openboxlubuntu-rc.xml*

All Key bindings are all there :)

I'm on Lubuntu 12.04 and the Menu shows up if I press the Super Key.

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset  wrote:

> Pressing the Super key should show the start menu in 11.10 normally. I'm
> not getting this behaviour on my lubuntu laptop :(
> Is this a bug or i'm the only one with this issue?
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[Lubuntu-desktop] PCManFM - Quick Questions

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Hi everyone,

1- How to run PCManFM from Terminal in order to find out what is going on
in case there is a strange behavior? typing "pcmanfm" will result to Run
PCManFM and you get the yourname@machine-name:~$ again so you don't really
see anything in the terminal (LXTerminal).

2- How to replace PCManFM with another File Manager?

3- What exactly are the functions/features that PCManFM offers? what it can
NOT offer?

4- What is the BEST way to report a bug for PCManFM? any
unusual behavior could be a bug, right?

5- Any plugins or extra stuff that one can add to PCManFM?

Thanks!



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About Xscreensaver

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>
> 1 thing I will change for 12.04 is to change the behavior by default,
> using *only a blank screen instead of the animated one*. It should be
> nicer for your type of configuration.


+1



On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le 12/23/2011 10:16 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit :
> > It has been pointed in the past, that for old machines Xcreensaver
> > makes everything sluggish (i can make proof of it because some
> > installations of Lubuntu have crashed because it tries to launch
> > xcreensaver and everything falls apart AND in my pentium 3 @1000mhz
> > the first thing i cut is the screensaver because it slows the whole
> > system)
> > If I remember correctly, drop xcreensaver was a bad idea just for the
> > blocking screen.
> > I've been using a little Ubuntu 11.10 and I'm wondering if they still
> > use a screensaver at all. Maybe they are using something different
> > just to block the screen?
> > If yes, maybe we could use the same thing and cut xcreensaver from
> > Lubuntu.
> >
> They are using compiz to lock the screen, so we can't use the same :)
> 1 thing I will change for 12.04 is to change the behavior by default,
> using only a blank screen instead of the animated one. It should be
> nicer for your type of configuration.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

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Hi Lance,

Finally I can tell who is* kansasnoob* :)

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I saw it before (but honestly did not read it
all) and I just read it now.

One thing I'm in doubt about it:
I have Lubuntu 12.04 installed and it's up and running. I have done all the
updates and upgrades (
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11559293&postcount=23) and now, I
want to use "zsync" that I already installed. *From my understanding to all
this, I just need to do this*:

zsync
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111222/precise-desktop-i386.iso.zsync


>From Terminal and that is all, right?

Now, as per your post that you mentioned (
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389&postcount=4) and as per
this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage ... "zsync" will NOT
update the installed system but will update the previously downloaded iso
so that you'll get the LATEST Daily Image and then you just need to burn a
CD and Install all over again, right? I just need to double check and make
sure we are in the same page :)

Now, another doubt: What's the point from all the above if I do:

sudo apt-get upgrade

and

sudo apt-get dist-upgrade


Isn't that enough?

Sorry of my questions are so silly but I'm very new in testing. Last time I
tested Lubutnu 11.10 Beta 2 and that was for 10 days or more so didn't
learn much stuff at that time. I'm very much willing to learn and
understand more at the moment.

Thank you in advance and I wish whatever I do will help Lubuntu and Lubuntu
Users. Yes, I know I did nothing yet but I'm doing my best.

Regards,
amjjawad/A.J


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Lance  wrote:

> Did you see my post late into Oneiric final testing:
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389&postcount=4
>
> If any of that is the least bit confusing please PM me. You seldom,
> actually almost never, need to DL an entire new iso - but you will have to
> burn a new disc!
>
> I appreciate your contribution to Lubuntu and I'll be glad to help you in
> any way I can.
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/13/11, amjjawad HOOHAA * wrote:
>
>
> From: amjjawad HOOHAA 
>
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
> To: "Yorvyk" 
> Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:04 PM
>
>
> Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion.
> I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here:
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501&postcount=18
> I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing
> from time to time? or just upgrade using zsync?
>
> Hope it's clear now :)
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk 
> http://mc/compose?to=yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400
> amjjawad HOOHAA http://mc/compose?to=amjja...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)
> >
> > Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to
> download
> > the daily build iso and install it rather than using "zsync". Does it
> stand
> > true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes,
> how
> > often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that
> > daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do
> much
> > except waiting - any other website will be slow.
> >
> Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already
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> whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] removing Chromium.

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hi,

I'm not an advanced Linux user but I know there is a difference between
these two (aptitude and apt-get) and personally, I've stopped using
aptitude since 10.04.

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal



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> Hi guys,
>
> one for the those who like the subtle differences between apt-get and
> aptitude.
>
> Removing Chromium using the two different commands provides massively
> different results. This was 1st reported on IRC and the pastebin [1] of the
> output is now available. If one of the 'guru's could take a look at it,
> it's way beyond my limited expertise!
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill
>
> [1] http://paste.ubuntu.com/778561/
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Wubi on 12.04

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Hello Jean-Pierre,

I'm one of those who actually avoid Wubi. It could be helpful but the
headache afterward is a lot sometimes :)

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1650699

IMHO, one can always try another alternative but that's me and YMMV :)



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> One thing I would like to see in Lubuntu, is the presence of Wubi.
> I've wanted to "show" some friend/familiars/co-workers how Lubuntu rocks
> but the only way i get is by livecd... and they want to try it a little :)
> Wubi is a GREAT option for a lot of people (myself included since i have
> only one hard drive and original windows is installed on it ;)
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Unresolved overheat issue blocks development

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Hello PCMan,

We had two HP Laptops at home, both are Pavilion DV6 (Windows 7) and DV5
(Ubuntu 10.04). The overheating problem was there for both except DV6 was
working while DV5 was shutting down even though we are using two cooling
fans.

I called HP and we managed to fix the problem on DV6 with a BIOS Update. As
for DV5 one, they couldn't help because it has Linux (Ubuntu 10.04) and I
have no clue how to update the BIOS while on Linux.

As far as I know, BIOS is controlling the Fan Speed and if there is no
hardware failure (fan is still working) then, as in my case, the BIOS
update will fix that.

Just a thought but in your case, it might be something else. Check the fan
and see if it's working. Try to buy a cooling fan if you don't have one
already.

Hope that helps!

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:58 AM, PCMan  wrote:

> Hi list,
> I have a long-standing unresolved issue on my Thinkpad R60 laptop.
> My Lubuntu gets overheat and performs shutdown automatically frequently.
> This happens since ubuntu 10.10 or 10.04 and I never suffered from this
> issue.
> Recently, the overheat problem became more and more severe and I'm not
> able to use Ubuntu sometimes.
> Switching to Windows xp and Vista fixed this problem. The temperature was
> quite low under Windows.
> I did some google search and found that it's a notorious problem of ubuntu.
> Unfortunately, I did not find any good solution to this.
> When I compile programs and browse web pages/documentations at the same
> time,
> the load of my laptop gets high and it becomes overheated easily.
> So recently I mainly use Windows xp.
> Please help if anyone has the right solution for this.
> Otherwise I have difficulty keep using Lubuntu and do programming under
> Linux.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LxScreenshot update

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Please ignore my previous email. I had an issue with my repositories and I
fixed it. I got LXScreenshot now :)



On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:57 AM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:

> Hello Stephen,
>
> Where do I find LXScreenshot? I have Lubuntu PPA added but I can't find
> LXScreenshot?!
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Stephen Smally 
> wrote:
>
>>  Hi, i have updated lxscreenshot, now it's possible use the command-line
>> arguments (there is only one, --shot or -s, wich is a non-interactive mode).
>> so we can setup the Stamp button to use 'lxscreenshot --shot', wich popup
>> the window with the screenshot, an example:
>>
>> [image: scrot]
>>
>> The ppa is building.
>>
>> Regards
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LxScreenshot update

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Hello Stephen,

Where do I find LXScreenshot? I have Lubuntu PPA added but I can't find
LXScreenshot?!


On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Stephen Smally wrote:

>  Hi, i have updated lxscreenshot, now it's possible use the command-line
> arguments (there is only one, --shot or -s, wich is a non-interactive mode).
> so we can setup the Stamp button to use 'lxscreenshot --shot', wich popup
> the window with the screenshot, an example:
>
> [image: scrot]
>
> The ppa is building.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Differentiating between logged in users (was: Re: Me again :) )

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Hello Jonathan,

Thanks a lot for your reply but neither myself nor that user are looking
for something like that :)

Myself and the other user are looking for something exactly the same as
Ubuntu 10.04. I managed to add that on Lubuntu 11.04 but got some problems
and when I rebooted, it's gone. On 11.10, I can't add it because
"indicator-me" package is NO longer available on the repositories and when
I added the PPA, I got an error message (old or removed package).

Thanks again :)

P.S.
Some bugs:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-session/+bug/500053
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/819528



On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:

> On 12/17/2011 12:59 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:
>
> > ... there are 3 different users are using the same PC and they want
> > something to display the name of the current logged in user beside a
> > feature to switch to another user.
>
>
> Sounds like all they really need is a way to tell each login from the
> others.
>
> A simple solution is to set each users desktop preferences to use a
> different desktop wallpaper; which user is logged in will then be pretty
> clear from the look of the screen.  For example, if you have three
> users, you can set each of them to use one of
>
>  /usr/share/lxde/wallpapers/lxde_blue.jpg
>  /usr/share/lxde/wallpapers/lxde_green.jpg
>  /usr/share/lxde/wallpapers/lxde_red.jpg
>
> The difference between those is pretty obvious.  Each user will soon
> recognize "their own" colour of wallpaper.
>
> If you want to get fancy, use mtpaint to edit some wallpapers that have
> the user's names on them, and then use those custom wallpapers, a
> different one for each user :)
>
> [You can set the wallpaper by right-clicking on the desktop, clicking on
> "Desktop Preferences", and then clicking on the folder icon to the right
> of the "Wallpaper: field in the Appearance tab of the Desktop
> Preferences window. ]
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Me again :)

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Hello Julien,

Thank you so much for your reply :)

1- I'll put this topic for discussion in the next team meeting. I would
> like to set up teams, and the Marketing team is one of them.


That would be great. We do need such team which should NOT be isolated from
Ubuntu Team (sorry if I didn't explain myself previously). The Marketing
Team Members are Lubuntu Members who will be dedicated to do one main
job/task and that will be "Marketing".

Also, we do need a Wiki or Documentation Team.



> 2- On http://ubuntuforums.org/, I'm not sure there are dedicated forum
> for Kubuntu, Xubuntu ... Using tag seems to be useful, because some
> requests / questions may apply to all the derivatives.


No, on Ubuntu Forum, there is no dedicated Sub-Forum for the other variant
(Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu or Lubuntu) but instead, there is Prefix
Feature: http://i52.tinypic.com/i2ks2s.jpg

I totally understand and actually SUPPORT the idea of keeping Lubuntu as it
is on Ubuntu Forum but I'm not really sure whether having a Sub-Forum on
Ubuntu Forum for Lubuntu is a good or bad idea?
Ubuntu Forum has many Sub-Forum (Absolute Beginner Talk, General Help,
Hardware and Laptops, Multimedia and Video, Desktop Environment, etc) and I
was just wondering how good or bad if Lubuntu will have a Sub-Forum just
like the other Categories? we are NOT isolating it, we are just Organizing
it. As long as it will have Clear and Obvious Category, everyone can jump
in and help. I see lots of posts from people who are not Lubuntu Users but
they are willing to help and I see that daily, not to mention those who
help out with testing :)

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870442
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1888933

What about a Sub-Forum on LXDE Forum? if that's possible, it would be great
since I'm a moderator there. However, someone must do something please
about the continuous problem on LXDE Website. It's up and down and when
it's up, it's very slow.


3- Canonical doesn't provide direct financial support, unless they have
> financial interest :) They already provide various support, by giving us
> access to some services, seehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecognizedDerivatives for
> details.


What I'm thinking and wondering about: Having more resources depends on
money or something else? also, if we are an official variant for Ubuntu
then it's not bad idea at all if Canonical spend something to improve
Lubuntu in any possible way. I have no idea how their system work and to be
honest don't want to be involved, I have enough stuff to care about but I
was just wondering.
I'll keep searching for people who can really support us financially. In
case I find someone, what shall I do?


4- Using indicator-session-gtk2 + the indicator applet of lxpanel should
> work. The support for indicators in Lubuntu is not perfect, some of them
> have need Ubuntu / GNOME components to run properly.


Well, I think there is a bug using these on both Lubuntu 11.10 and 11.04.
On 11.10, adding the above two packages will not add the username. Adding
the username must be done through "indicator-me" which is gone in 11.10 and
no longer in the repositories.
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/ubuntu-11-10-menu-goodbye/

As for 11.04, indicator-me package is still in the repositories but when I
added it and rebooted, it's done and on PCManFM, there is no File, Edit,
etc ... I have no idea what happened.

There is already some bugs and I commented on one of them but can't find it
right now.
I have asked that question because there is a case where there are 3
different users are using the same PC and they want something to display
the name of the current logged in user beside a feature to switch to
another user.
"indicator-me" package has 126 files to be downloaded and installed. I was
wondering if it's impossible to use "indicator me" in 11.10, is there any
other alternative?


Thank you :)

@Everyone else who replied, thanks a lot and I'll get back to you shortly :)



On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

>  Le 12/16/2011 05:20 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA a écrit :
>
> 1- I'm thinking about a Marketing Team which will be dedicated to Lubuntu
> Marketing and its members will focus ONLY on Marketing. As always, I'm
> willing to contribute and join but I just thought to propose the idea here
> and SO SORRY if this is not the right place to do that :)
>
> I'll put this topic for discussion in the next team meeting. I would like
> to set up teams, and the Marketing team is one of them.
>
>
>  2- What are the chances of having a dedicated Forum JUST for Lubuntu? or
> maybe a Sub-Forum either on Ubuntu Forum or LXDE Forum? needless to say I'm
> more than up to this but again, I'd like to propose the idea here.
>
> On ht

[Lubuntu-desktop] Me again :)

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hello everyone,

Long story short:

1- I'm thinking about a Marketing Team which will be dedicated to Lubuntu
Marketing and its members will focus ONLY on Marketing. As always, I'm
willing to contribute and join but I just thought to propose the idea here
and SO SORRY if this is not the right place to do that :)

2- What are the chances of having a dedicated Forum JUST for Lubuntu? or
maybe a Sub-Forum either on Ubuntu Forum or LXDE Forum? needless to say I'm
more than up to this but again, I'd like to propose the idea here.

3- Lubuntu is an official variant of Ubuntu now. Regarding the funds and
stuff like that, is Canonical taking care of that? what if I find someone
who can denote or help us financially?  I understand it's free OS but I'm
working on that ... I'm looking for someone to denote or help us
financially.

4- Like GNOME 2.xx (say Ubuntu 10.04), how can I add my username to the
panel? is there anyway? in Ubuntu 10.04, I can see my username on the top
panel but how hard or easy is it to do the same on Lubuntu?


That's all for now.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Users' Threads - Help Needed

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What can I say? YOU ARE AMAZING :)
Thanks a lot, I appreciate that.

As for:
*Window Position:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31200
 I do have the same issue by the way - Lubuntu 11.10 from a normal
installation - 32 bit.

If you can reproduce it, and produce a step-by-step way to reproduce it,
> it's a bug to report, probably under obconf package if understand correctly
> the problem.
>

Yes, it's so easy to reproduce that. I'll send more details later because
it's too late now here :)



On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

>  Le 12/15/2011 03:09 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA a écrit :
>
>
> *Window Position:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31200
>  I do have the same issue by the way - Lubuntu 11.10 from a normal
> installation - 32 bit.
>
> If you can reproduce it, and produce a step-by-step way to reproduce it,
> it's a bug to report, probably under obconf package if understand correctly
> the problem.
>
>
>  *
>
>  Issues with lxdm in Lubuntu:*
> http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31470
>
> It's because lxdm doesn't support those features.
> But it should be fixed in 12.04 shortly, using lightdm.
>
>
>
>  *Disable middle click tab close in LXTerminal: *
> http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31247
>
> As far as I know, this feature doesn't exist. You can report a feature
> request on LXDE bug tracker :
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=180858&atid=894872
> Lxterminal maintainer is active, so he may be able to add it :)
>
> Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Users' Threads - Help Needed

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Hello Phill,

I'm glad to see you back to action ;)

Thanks for your reminder but yet again, I'm very much aware of that note *(*
*Please note: Ubuntu Developers do not usually read the forums)** *but
thanks, your "reminder" is highly appreciated.

Two things I'd like to highlight to be extra clear *(seems my emails are
not very clear on the mailing list like my posts on the forum):
*
1- I was asking for Lubuntu-Team's Help to assist those users who have
problems. Now, whether these problems are bugs or not, that's another story
:)

2- NOT everyone on the mailing list, Phill. NOT everyone has Launchpad
account. Those who have posted on LXDE Forum, in most cases, their posts
are the first post they ever make/create, not to mention that in most
cases, they don't even know about Ubuntu Forum. Above all, some are still
confusing between LXDE and Lubuntu. They think the system is called LXDE
which is obviously WRONG.

Having that said, ALL what I have asked was helping those users. That is
all. I have NO idea whether these cases on these threads are bugs or not?
that's why I asked for some help over here :)
As I wrote to Julien, if ALL the cases on these threads are bugs, please
confirm so that I'll communicate that to the users as I have promised to
help them :)

If what you are saying that I need to advice them to either use the mailing
list and/or launchpad instead of the forum (LXDE Forum or Ubuntu Forum)
just because the developers will look at the mailing list and launchpad but
NOT the forums then this is totally a different story.

Your email (reply) is understood, hope mine will be too :)

P.S.
Cases are:

*Window Position:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31200
I do have the same issue by the way - Lubuntu 11.10 from a normal
installation - 32 bit.

*
Issues with lxdm in Lubuntu:*
http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31470

*Downloading LXDE:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31467
Please note that I'll handle this case but I'm just reporting that so LXDE
Team will look at this issue on LXDE website.

*Disable middle click tab close in LXTerminal: *
http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31247





On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Hi ammjjawad,
>
> can I simply repeat what Julien says. As a tester for *buntu +1 series, we
> have a forum area at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=412 It
> clearly states at the top..
>
> *Ubuntu +1 (Precise Pangolin)*
> This forum is for the discussion of the development of the next version of
> Ubuntu (Precise Pangolin). Precise is in development and will be released
> in April 2012. Please note: Ubuntu Developers do not usually read the
> forums, to report a problem found in Precise please report the bug in
> Launchpad <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug>.
>
> The important part being that
>
> *Please note: Ubuntu Developers do not usually read the forums*
> *
> *
> bugs should be reported via LaunchPad, if some one is unsure, then they
> should ask on the mailing list. These two methods of contact are read by
> the Developers. This applies to both +1, current and previous releases.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
>
>> Le 12/13/2011 09:15 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA a écrit :
>> > Most of users, including me, start their searching for a solution or
>> > seeking for support journey from the  forums, of course after doing
>> > some Google Search (which in most cases direct them to one of these
>> > forums). IMHO, reporting a problem on Launchpad should be done if
>> > there is NO Real Solution/Fix to a particular issue OR it's an obvious
>> > bug (but again, how can we tell whether it's a bug or not?).
>> > For a small (BUT GREAT) team like us (Lubuntu), reporting issues on
>> > Launchpad directly without checking the forum will add extra work to
>> > the developer and above all, on forums, you probably could find a
>> > solution easier and faster. Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I think.
>> Sometimes, the solution you provide may hide a real bug. I'm ok than
>> some issues doesn't have to be reported on launchpad. But it's important
>> to use launchpad, developers look at launchpad, not the forum.
>> And it's possible that a solution provided can be included directly in
>> Lubuntu, to be available for everyone :)
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Users' Threads - Help Needed

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>
> Sometimes, the solution you provide may hide a real bug. I'm ok than
> some issues doesn't have to be reported on launchpad. *But it's important
> to use launchpad*, *developers look at launchpad, not the forum*.
> And it's possible that a solution provided can be included directly in
> Lubuntu, to be available for everyone :)
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>


Hello Julien,

As always and forever, thanks for your reply. I'm very much aware of the
fact that *developers look at launchpad, not the forum* and I'm also aware
of how important to use Launchpad (obviously since the developers don't
look at the forum). However, I was just sharing my opinion and stating what
I think :)

Now, back to topic ... is there any real solution/fix to the issues I sent?
I need to get back to the users and from my side, I have nothing to offer
(unfortunately) except asking for the team help. Someone with better
knowledge than myself can probably jump in to help OR send the solution
here and I'll post it there. What I do care about is helping those users.
One of them was waiting for 6 months without a single word from anyone.

May I re-post the threads here again?

*Window Position:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31200
I do have the same issue by the way - Lubuntu 11.10 from a normal
installation - 32 bit.

*

Issues with lxdm in Lubuntu:*
http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31470


*Downloading LXDE:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31467
Please note that I'll handle this case but I'm just reporting that so LXDE
Team will look at this issue on LXDE website.


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If the "real" solution to all the above issues is advising the users (OPs -
Original Posters) to report these issues to Launchpad, then please confirm.
Otherwise, I'll be waiting for some answers to them :)

Thanks and keep the good work up, you rock!


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le 12/13/2011 09:15 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA a écrit :
> > Most of users, including me, start their searching for a solution or
> > seeking for support journey from the  forums, of course after doing
> > some Google Search (which in most cases direct them to one of these
> > forums). IMHO, reporting a problem on Launchpad should be done if
> > there is NO Real Solution/Fix to a particular issue OR it's an obvious
> > bug (but again, how can we tell whether it's a bug or not?).
> > For a small (BUT GREAT) team like us (Lubuntu), reporting issues on
> > Launchpad directly without checking the forum will add extra work to
> > the developer and above all, on forums, you probably could find a
> > solution easier and faster. Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I think.
> Sometimes, the solution you provide may hide a real bug. I'm ok than
> some issues doesn't have to be reported on launchpad. But it's important
> to use launchpad, developers look at launchpad, not the forum.
> And it's possible that a solution provided can be included directly in
> Lubuntu, to be available for everyone :)
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Yorvyk and Phill,

Thank you so much for both of you :)

I'll keep using "zsync" then instead of downloading the daily ISO every
time. However, I think with Beta 2, I'll download the ISO again.

I'm doing it on Real Hardware, not on Virtual Machine. Now, I just need to
fix the black screen issue that it seems stuck. I'm sure I'm not the only
one and I guess it's the same issue that has been mentioned few hours ago
on the mailing list.

Thanks again :)

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Indeed,
>
> the 1st time you zsync on an already installed ISO it goes and grabs the
> entire darn thing again! Better, as advised, to use zsync to grab it in the
> first instance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:04 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:
>
>> Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion.
>> I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here:
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501&postcount=18
>> I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing
>> from time to time? or just upgrade using zsync?
>>
>> Hope it's clear now :)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400
>>> amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)
>>> >
>>> > Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to
>>> download
>>> > the daily build iso and install it rather than using "zsync". Does it
>>> stand
>>> > true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If
>>> yes, how
>>> > often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that
>>> > daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do
>>> much
>>> > except waiting - any other website will be slow.
>>> >
>>> Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already
>>> have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily
>>> whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time.
>>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

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Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion.
I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501&postcount=18
I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing from
time to time? or just upgrade using zsync?

Hope it's clear now :)

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400
> amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
>
> > Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)
> >
> > Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to
> download
> > the daily build iso and install it rather than using "zsync". Does it
> stand
> > true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes,
> how
> > often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that
> > daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do
> much
> > except waiting - any other website will be slow.
> >
> Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already
> have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily
> whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)

Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to download
the daily build iso and install it rather than using "zsync". Does it stand
true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes, how
often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that
daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do much
except waiting - any other website will be slow.

Thank you :)



On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:57 AM, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:

> As always, thank you for your explanation :)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>
>>  Le 11/29/2011 10:31 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA a écrit :
>>
>> I was unable to open this: http://91.189.93.73
>> Site is blocked by my ISP and anyway it doesn't seem a valid IP address
>> anyway.
>>
>> Ah :( but it's temporaly, the site should be available on a real DNS
>> adress for Alpha 2 ( http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/). Still, the ISOs are
>> available in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/ is
>> people just want to have a look.
>>
>>
>>  Another thing: I understand testing in Virtual Machines (VirtualBox) is
>> SAFE but will that be the same as testing on real installation?
>>
>> Not exactly, because the hardware on the virtual machine is generic. You
>> can test many things on a vm, but it's nice to test it also on a real
>> hardware.
>>
>> However, for Alpha 1, it's not important to test it on real hardware.
>> It's still very early in the cycle. It's more critical for Beta ISO for
>> example.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Users' Threads - Help Needed

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hello Gabriel,

Good to see you still active over here :)

I THINK that some of those problems is better if they report at Launchpad,
> and not at the forum.



Most of users, including me, start their searching for a solution or
seeking for support journey from the  forums, of course after doing some
Google Search (which in most cases direct them to one of these forums).
IMHO, reporting a problem on Launchpad should be done if there is NO Real
Solution/Fix to a particular issue OR it's an obvious bug (but again, how
can we tell whether it's a bug or not?).
For a small (BUT GREAT) team like us (Lubuntu), reporting issues on
Launchpad directly without checking the forum will add extra work to the
developer and above all, on forums, you probably could find a solution
easier and faster. Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I think.

I understand nothing is perfect but it's good to pursuit for perfection.
One of the cases, the user was waiting for 6 months with no answer. He/She
moved to XFCE and that honestly bothered me. LXDE is good, in fact amazing
but definitely needs more care and support.

Thanks!




On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Gabriel Salles wrote:

> Hello amjjawad and everybody!
>
> I THINK that some of those problems is better if they report at
> Launchpad, and not at the forum.
>
> Taking advantage of this email, I will comment on a "problem" at
> LxLauncher. It is the unchangeable "blue wallpaper" that I believe
> that everybody knows about. But I think I am the only one who uses the
> LxLauncher and everybody have more important things to do at the
> LXDE/Lubuntu project.
>
> I don't have the knowledge to fix that, so I'm translating what needs
> to be translated (LSC, for example) and waiting the day that someone
> will have the time to change what needs to be changed at LxLauncher.
> =]
>
> att,
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Users' Threads - Help Needed

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hi Everyone,

Feel like I haven't sent anything in ages :)

I have noticed some threads that need some attention. Recurring issues with
no REAL fix. Not to expect much from my side as some of these issues are
not a real problem for me. However, these issues might be a real problem
for others.

I'll post the threads and hope someone has a real solution or at least a
final answer to these and ... as always ... your support is highly
appreciated and thanks in advance :)


*Window Position:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31200
I do have the same issue by the way - Lubuntu 11.10 from a normal
installation - 32 bit.

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Issues with lxdm in Lubuntu:*
http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31470


*Downloading LXDE:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31467
Please note that I'll handle this case but I'm just reporting that so LXDE
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That's all for now but I might need more help soon with more threads.
I'm having some personal issues over here and I'm having hard time ... it's
really hard to help others and solving your own problems but I'm enjoying
something at least (which is kind of a relief) and I do hope I can go back
to my activities. I miss the mailing list :P

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Sun/Oracle Java

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

There is no "huge problem" to begin with :)
ALL what we were saying is that The Wiki Area (which I've been told it
should be the main source of our information) need to be maintained and
organized even better.

I'm against to remove materials UNLESS there is a duplication. I'm WITH
updating and organize the whole thing. Plus, I wish there is a dedicated
team who will take good care of that area.

I recall once Julien mentioned that the Wiki Area is on his to-do list.

Everyone can actually contribute to the Wiki Area. I wish our Wiki could be
as strong as Arch's Wiki Pages. Fedora Documentation system is great too.
How can we achieve that? working as a team and each member of this team has
something specific to do. This is my humble opinion.

As for me not liking it, that's my personal opinion about it and I have
mentioned why I don't. However, I will never vote against it as it's a MUST
have area. Just trying to be extra clear and hope there will be no
misunderstanding.

Phill has done and still doing a great job, no doubt about it but I don't
prefer to leave him alone, we must all support him. Not only Phill, we must
support each other in anything and everything.

Thank you :)



On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Lance  wrote:

> I honestly don't see a huge problem. I find the documentation to be
> adequate. Of course in some instances the official Ubuntu documentation
> works for both Ubuntu and Lubuntu, other times not so much.
>
> I think it's also fair to say that we must still rely on LXDE's own
> documentation for many things, and let's not forget that we're very young
> as a legitimate child of Ubuntu/Canonical ;^)
>
> I suspect we'll garner more support from the Canonical devs as time goes
> along but some patience is needed. I know everyone is doing their best :^)
>
> I'd personally defer to Phill W on this, if he's available. He helped
> bring us to the point of acceptance into the Canonical family and his voice
> means a lot to me.
>
> As always, thanks to everyone for everything they do,
>
> Lance
>
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 12/4/11, amjjawad HOOHAA * wrote:
>
>
> From: amjjawad HOOHAA 
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Sun/Oracle Java
> To: "lubuntu-desktop" 
> Date: Sunday, December 4, 2011, 5:31 PM
>
>
> I do agree with all what have been said/written.
>
> With all the honesty in the world, I don't like the Wiki Pages.
> Why?
>
> 1- I've been told it MUST be the main source of our information while
> there are LOTS of missing information already, NOT to mention it is not
> organized nor up to date.
>
> 2- One can't find what he/she is looking for easily.
>
> 3- The whole structure is bad IMHO.
>
> 4- When I tried to contribute to the Wiki Area, I have heard NOTHING but
> bad negative and rude attitude so I decided NOT to touch it any more and
> take care of Ubuntu Forum as that is where I belong.
>
> 5- There is NO dedicated team to maintain our Wiki
>
> Perhaps these are the main reasons.
>
> Again, to be honest, I have another thoughts and different approaches and
> I'm having hard time to explain myself over and over again. Thus, I have
> decided weeks ago to remain silent and do my job quietly.
> I'm doing well on the forum and I'll keep it up, period.
> I have so much plans to help Lubuntu Users on the Froum. Writing guides
> and more.
>
> I couldn't remain silent anymore.
>
> I can't deny I do have my own style that is different big time than
> everyone's style in this team but since this is a Team Work more than
> anything else, I'm trying my best to learn more about this team, even more
> than learning about Lubuntu which I breath daily.
>
> I'm here as always and ready to help and take our Wiki to the next step
> but WE do need to talk and discuss, period.
>
> :)
>
> Excuse my approach, I just couldn't resist.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:56 AM, ∅ 
> http://mc/compose?to=maps.backw...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
>
> On 12/04/2011 02:26 PM, Yorvyk wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 07:43:15 +1000
> > Jared Norris http://mc/compose?to=jrnor...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >> On 5 December 2011 06:17, amjjawad HOOHAA 
> >> http://mc/compose?to=amjja...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>> So, again, please double check this:
> >>>
> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
> >>> and if necessary, update this:
> >>>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Some_Java_applications_don.27t_work.2C_I_want_proprietary_Oracle_Java
> >

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Sun/Oracle Java

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

I do agree with all what have been said/written.

With all the honesty in the world, I don't like the Wiki Pages.
Why?

1- I've been told it MUST be the main source of our information while there
are LOTS of missing information already, NOT to mention it is not organized
nor up to date.

2- One can't find what he/she is looking for easily.

3- The whole structure is bad IMHO.

4- When I tried to contribute to the Wiki Area, I have heard NOTHING but
bad negative and rude attitude so I decided NOT to touch it any more and
take care of Ubuntu Forum as that is where I belong.

5- There is NO dedicated team to maintain our Wiki

Perhaps these are the main reasons.

Again, to be honest, I have another thoughts and different approaches and
I'm having hard time to explain myself over and over again. Thus, I have
decided weeks ago to remain silent and do my job quietly.
I'm doing well on the forum and I'll keep it up, period.
I have so much plans to help Lubuntu Users on the Froum. Writing guides and
more.

I couldn't remain silent anymore.

I can't deny I do have my own style that is different big time than
everyone's style in this team but since this is a Team Work more than
anything else, I'm trying my best to learn more about this team, even more
than learning about Lubuntu which I breath daily.

I'm here as always and ready to help and take our Wiki to the next step but
WE do need to talk and discuss, period.

:)

Excuse my approach, I just couldn't resist.





On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:56 AM, ∅  wrote:

>
> On 12/04/2011 02:26 PM, Yorvyk wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 07:43:15 +1000
> > Jared Norris  wrote:
> >> On 5 December 2011 06:17, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
> >>> So, again, please double check this:
> >>>
> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
> >>> and if necessary, update this:
> >>>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Some_Java_applications_don.27t_work.2C_I_want_proprietary_Oracle_Java
> >> This is the very big problem I see with having a separate FAQ to the
> >> main information on the wiki. Unless it's specific to Lubuntu I really
> >> don't see why it should exist on our FAQ area at all. All this does is
> >> duplicate information AND reduce the number of people working on a
> >> topic. This is a perfect example because the proper Java page [0] was
> >> updated a while ago to reflect the changes.
> >>
> >> So my opinion is, unless it's specific to Lubuntu we should contribute
> >> and rely on the community documentation for *Ubuntu instead of trying
> >> to carve out our own little niche that will easily be out of date and
> >> hard to maintain with fewer resources. (To answer your question my
> >> suggestion would be to remove the java section altogether, if you HAVE
> >> to have something, link to the main page for Java).
> >>
> >> [0] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
> > Couldn't agree more Jared.  Repeating the same information over and over
> in different places is not helpful.  Users who aren't quite sure what their
> problem is end up 'not seeing the wood for the trees.'  This is the sort of
> thing a decent index is helps with.
> to me, this begs the question of why we have a FAQ at all. there's no
> reason there shouldn't be an LXDE-specific section to the general
> "Ubuntu" wiki as it is relevant to LXDE. how many people have you come
> across that run LXDE in Ubuntu rather than doing Lubuntu? it's often a
> gateway to officially making the switch.
>
> my problem with the "main" wiki is that it is often so GNOME-centric,
> it's not always apparent whether or not something is truly applicable to
> Lubuntu. so if we updated it for Lubuntu, there would be ONE place to go.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Sun/Oracle Java

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hi there,

I don't use it nor need it :)
Someone already posted on my thread that Lubuntu FAQs (Wiki) need to be
updated according to the link I mentioned (
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html)
Since I have never used JAVA on Linux, I'm asking those who are using it to
check whether we need to update our Wiki or not?

So, again, please double check this:
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html

and if necessary, update this:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Some_Java_applications_don.27t_work.2C_I_want_proprietary_Oracle_Java

I didn't update the Wiki because I'm not sure because I don't use Java :)

Thanks :)



On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Andrew Woodhead <
andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 4 December 2011 19:11, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As per this:
>>
>> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
>>
>> The below is no longer valid:
>>
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Some_Java_applications_don.27t_work.2C_I_want_proprietary_Oracle_Java
>> .
>>
>> Is that true?
>> I didn't want to change it myself unless someone confirms that.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
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> If you want sun java use:
>
> cd
> wget http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/7/jdk-7-linux-i586.tar.gz
> sudo apt-get -y install unp
> unp ./jdk-7-linux-i586.tar.gz
> rm ./jdk-7-linux-i586.tar.gz
> sudo mkdir /usr/lib/jvm
> cd /usr/lib/jvm
> sudo mv ./jdk1.7.0 .
> tar zxvf ./jdk-7-linux-i586.tar.gz
> rm ./jre-7u1-linux-i586.tar.gz
> sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java
> /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0/bin/java 71
> sudo update-alternatives --config java
> cd /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so .
>
> Works here
>



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[Lubuntu-desktop] Sun/Oracle Java

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hello,

As per this:
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html

The below is no longer valid:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Some_Java_applications_don.27t_work.2C_I_want_proprietary_Oracle_Java
.

Is that true?
I didn't want to change it myself unless someone confirms that.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Strange behavior with Chromium

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hello Tim,

Google has changed something today but since you have mentioned Firefox is
working fine (I'm suing Firefox), it could be something else with the
browser itself.

Try to run "chromium-browser" in LXTerminal and see what is going on?




On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Tim Bernhard  wrote:

> OK, this is a long shot...
>
> I recently installed Lubuntu 11.10 (64bit) on my Acer AS3820 (with an I3
> processor and 4GB ram.)  The browser is choking on Gmail for some reason.
> It looses it's connection and then won't reconnect or if it does, it beaks
> the connection again.  Other sites continue to function and I have no
> problem accessing Gmail from another computer, tablet, phone or even
> Firefox on the same laptop.  It happens on my home network (wireless) and
> at work (wired).
>
> I'm not sure what to make of this.  Any ideas?
>
> Tim
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

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I'll do the same, thank you :)



On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Pierre Gobin  wrote:

>  I already use autologin ;) I will go on looking after a solution, and I
> will say you if I find it !
>
>
> Le 30/11/2011 13:07, amjjawad HOOHAA a écrit :
>
> I still think in my humble opinion that "the password" is very important
> but that's me :)
>
> Have you checked this:
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_enable_automatic_logon_in_LXDM
>
> I have not tested or tried that but perhaps this will give you what you
> want.
>
> I'll try my best to find some time and try it but no promises as I'm
> having some personal issues I'm busy with at the moment.
>
> Let me know if you need anything else :)
>
> You most welcome, I did nothing much :)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Pierre Gobin  wrote:
>
>>  Yes, I understand that it can be important, but in this case, I'm the
>> only one who has access to this PC, so password isn't needed. But I will do
>> with it :)
>>
>> Thanks for your help !
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pierre GOBIN
>>
>>  Hi,
>>
>> First of all, don't be sorry, English is not my first language too :)
>>
>> Yes, I do understand now, thanks for explaining :)
>> Honestly, I'm not sure how to do that? perhaps if you can login
>> automatically without a password? I haven't tested that.
>>
>> For me, I think the password is very important but I understand it's a
>> personal opinion :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Pierre Gobin wrote:
>>
>>>  No, I want to say that now the behavior is normal (my screen doesn't
>>> lock, with or without screensaver), excepted when my pc set in sleep mode :
>>> after sleep, my screen is locked. And I would want that my screen never
>>> locks. Do you understand ? I'm really sorry for my bad English...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you saying that you disabled the screensaver and your screen is
>>> locked after some period of time?
>>> If that is what you mean then No, it doesn't happen with me.
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Pierre Gobin wrote:
>>>
>>>>  After a few tests, my screen is only locked after Sleep, no longer
>>>> with the only screensaver. Do you have the same behavior after sleep ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Sometimes, thinking about the simplest step/solution could be helpful.
>>>> Please, try to "check" that option "Lock Screen After" from
>>>> xscreensaver main window and wait until the screensaver starts. After that,
>>>> move your mouse or press any key and type your password, to go screensaver
>>>> and "uncheck" Lock Screen After option. Let's see what could happen.
>>>>
>>>> As for the two processes, I was just mentioning what I do have and that
>>>> could be irreverent in your case.
>>>> I think it's a bug but maybe I'm wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Pierre Gobin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  No, I didn't fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have two processes of xscreensaver too. I killed one of them, and I
>>>>> made sure that Lock Screen option was unchecked : my screen still locks.
>>>>>
>>>>> But are we in the same case ? I'm talking about the fact that my
>>>>> screen locks after sleep ; maybe it is a normal behavior ? Without
>>>>> sleeping, I am not sure that my screen locks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Pierre,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be
>>>>> back again.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working
>>>>> so when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and
>>>>> take you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. 
>>>>> However,
>>>>> Lock Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option
>>>>> from xscreensaver :
>>>>>
>>>>>

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

I still think in my humble opinion that "the password" is very important
but that's me :)

Have you checked this:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_enable_automatic_logon_in_LXDM

I have not tested or tried that but perhaps this will give you what you
want.

I'll try my best to find some time and try it but no promises as I'm having
some personal issues I'm busy with at the moment.

Let me know if you need anything else :)

You most welcome, I did nothing much :)



On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Pierre Gobin  wrote:

>  Yes, I understand that it can be important, but in this case, I'm the
> only one who has access to this PC, so password isn't needed. But I will do
> with it :)
>
> Thanks for your help !
>
> Regards,
> Pierre GOBIN
>
>  Hi,
>
> First of all, don't be sorry, English is not my first language too :)
>
> Yes, I do understand now, thanks for explaining :)
> Honestly, I'm not sure how to do that? perhaps if you can login
> automatically without a password? I haven't tested that.
>
> For me, I think the password is very important but I understand it's a
> personal opinion :)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Pierre Gobin  wrote:
>
>>  No, I want to say that now the behavior is normal (my screen doesn't
>> lock, with or without screensaver), excepted when my pc set in sleep mode :
>> after sleep, my screen is locked. And I would want that my screen never
>> locks. Do you understand ? I'm really sorry for my bad English...
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you saying that you disabled the screensaver and your screen is
>> locked after some period of time?
>> If that is what you mean then No, it doesn't happen with me.
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Pierre Gobin wrote:
>>
>>>  After a few tests, my screen is only locked after Sleep, no longer with
>>> the only screensaver. Do you have the same behavior after sleep ?
>>>
>>>
>>>  Sometimes, thinking about the simplest step/solution could be helpful.
>>> Please, try to "check" that option "Lock Screen After" from xscreensaver
>>> main window and wait until the screensaver starts. After that, move your
>>> mouse or press any key and type your password, to go screensaver and
>>> "uncheck" Lock Screen After option. Let's see what could happen.
>>>
>>> As for the two processes, I was just mentioning what I do have and that
>>> could be irreverent in your case.
>>> I think it's a bug but maybe I'm wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Pierre Gobin wrote:
>>>
  No, I didn't fix it.

 I have two processes of xscreensaver too. I killed one of them, and I
 made sure that Lock Screen option was unchecked : my screen still locks.

 But are we in the same case ? I'm talking about the fact that my screen
 locks after sleep ; maybe it is a normal behavior ? Without sleeping, I am
 not sure that my screen locks.



 Hello Pierre,

 I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be
 back again.

 As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing:

 http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg

 There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so
 when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take
 you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock
 Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from
 xscreensaver :

 http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg

 In my case, "Lock Screen After" is unchecked and I have no issues even
 with the two processes of xscreensaver.

 Not really sure how to fix your issue?

 Did you manage to fix it?

 Thanks!



 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot !
>
> By "Lock Screen After", I was talking about the option in
> XScreenSaver. This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks
> after slepp.
>
> Regards,
> Pierre Gobin
>



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>>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hi,

First of all, don't be sorry, English is not my first language too :)

Yes, I do understand now, thanks for explaining :)
Honestly, I'm not sure how to do that? perhaps if you can login
automatically without a password? I haven't tested that.

For me, I think the password is very important but I understand it's a
personal opinion :)



On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Pierre Gobin  wrote:

>  No, I want to say that now the behavior is normal (my screen doesn't
> lock, with or without screensaver), excepted when my pc set in sleep mode :
> after sleep, my screen is locked. And I would want that my screen never
> locks. Do you understand ? I'm really sorry for my bad English...
>
>
>
> Are you saying that you disabled the screensaver and your screen is locked
> after some period of time?
> If that is what you mean then No, it doesn't happen with me.
>
>
>  On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Pierre Gobin wrote:
>
>>  After a few tests, my screen is only locked after Sleep, no longer with
>> the only screensaver. Do you have the same behavior after sleep ?
>>
>>
>>  Sometimes, thinking about the simplest step/solution could be helpful.
>> Please, try to "check" that option "Lock Screen After" from xscreensaver
>> main window and wait until the screensaver starts. After that, move your
>> mouse or press any key and type your password, to go screensaver and
>> "uncheck" Lock Screen After option. Let's see what could happen.
>>
>> As for the two processes, I was just mentioning what I do have and that
>> could be irreverent in your case.
>> I think it's a bug but maybe I'm wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Pierre Gobin wrote:
>>
>>>  No, I didn't fix it.
>>>
>>> I have two processes of xscreensaver too. I killed one of them, and I
>>> made sure that Lock Screen option was unchecked : my screen still locks.
>>>
>>> But are we in the same case ? I'm talking about the fact that my screen
>>> locks after sleep ; maybe it is a normal behavior ? Without sleeping, I am
>>> not sure that my screen locks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Pierre,
>>>
>>> I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be back
>>> again.
>>>
>>> As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing:
>>>
>>> http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg
>>>
>>> There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so
>>> when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take
>>> you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock
>>> Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from
>>> xscreensaver :
>>>
>>> http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg
>>>
>>> In my case, "Lock Screen After" is unchecked and I have no issues even
>>> with the two processes of xscreensaver.
>>>
>>> Not really sure how to fix your issue?
>>>
>>> Did you manage to fix it?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot !

 By "Lock Screen After", I was talking about the option in XScreenSaver.
 This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks after slepp.

 Regards,
 Pierre Gobin

>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

As always, thank you for your explanation :)


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

>  Le 11/29/2011 10:31 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA a écrit :
>
> I was unable to open this: http://91.189.93.73
> Site is blocked by my ISP and anyway it doesn't seem a valid IP address
> anyway.
>
> Ah :( but it's temporaly, the site should be available on a real DNS
> adress for Alpha 2 ( http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/). Still, the ISOs are
> available in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/ is
> people just want to have a look.
>
>
>  Another thing: I understand testing in Virtual Machines (VirtualBox) is
> SAFE but will that be the same as testing on real installation?
>
> Not exactly, because the hardware on the virtual machine is generic. You
> can test many things on a vm, but it's nice to test it also on a real
> hardware.
>
> However, for Alpha 1, it's not important to test it on real hardware. It's
> still very early in the cycle. It's more critical for Beta ISO for example.
>
> Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

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Are you saying that you disabled the screensaver and your screen is locked
after some period of time?
If that is what you mean then No, it doesn't happen with me.


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Pierre Gobin  wrote:

>  After a few tests, my screen is only locked after Sleep, no longer with
> the only screensaver. Do you have the same behavior after sleep ?
>
>
>  Sometimes, thinking about the simplest step/solution could be helpful.
> Please, try to "check" that option "Lock Screen After" from xscreensaver
> main window and wait until the screensaver starts. After that, move your
> mouse or press any key and type your password, to go screensaver and
> "uncheck" Lock Screen After option. Let's see what could happen.
>
> As for the two processes, I was just mentioning what I do have and that
> could be irreverent in your case.
> I think it's a bug but maybe I'm wrong.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Pierre Gobin  wrote:
>
>>  No, I didn't fix it.
>>
>> I have two processes of xscreensaver too. I killed one of them, and I
>> made sure that Lock Screen option was unchecked : my screen still locks.
>>
>> But are we in the same case ? I'm talking about the fact that my screen
>> locks after sleep ; maybe it is a normal behavior ? Without sleeping, I am
>> not sure that my screen locks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Pierre,
>>
>> I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be back
>> again.
>>
>> As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing:
>>
>> http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg
>>
>> There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so
>> when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take
>> you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock
>> Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from
>> xscreensaver :
>>
>> http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg
>>
>> In my case, "Lock Screen After" is unchecked and I have no issues even
>> with the two processes of xscreensaver.
>>
>> Not really sure how to fix your issue?
>>
>> Did you manage to fix it?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot !
>>>
>>> By "Lock Screen After", I was talking about the option in XScreenSaver.
>>> This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks after slepp.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Pierre Gobin
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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>> Simple and Short*
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>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hello Julien,

I was unable to open this: http://91.189.93.73
Site is blocked by my ISP and anyway it doesn't seem a valid IP address
anyway.

Another thing: I understand testing in Virtual Machines (VirtualBox) is
SAFE but will that be the same as testing on real installation?
For someone like me who has spare PC and/or HDD, I don't think it will be a
problem but for someone who doesn't have, I think VirtualBox comes in
handy. Am I right?

I had some personal issues and problems in real life so not sure if I'll be
active in Testing but will do my best.

Keep up the good work and thanks for all your efforts :)

Ali/amjjawad


On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The 1st Alpha of Lubuntu 12.04 is planned for Thurday. We started the
> ISO testing for Alpha 1, so if you want to help, you can join the
> testing process :)
>
> If you know how to use a virtual machine (Virtualbox) and how to install
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> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures .
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Sometimes, thinking about the simplest step/solution could be helpful.
Please, try to "check" that option "Lock Screen After" from xscreensaver
main window and wait until the screensaver starts. After that, move your
mouse or press any key and type your password, to go screensaver and
"uncheck" Lock Screen After option. Let's see what could happen.

As for the two processes, I was just mentioning what I do have and that
could be irreverent in your case.
I think it's a bug but maybe I'm wrong.



On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Pierre Gobin  wrote:

>  No, I didn't fix it.
>
> I have two processes of xscreensaver too. I killed one of them, and I made
> sure that Lock Screen option was unchecked : my screen still locks.
>
> But are we in the same case ? I'm talking about the fact that my screen
> locks after sleep ; maybe it is a normal behavior ? Without sleeping, I am
> not sure that my screen locks.
>
>
>
> Hello Pierre,
>
> I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be back
> again.
>
> As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing:
>
> http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg
>
> There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so
> when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take
> you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock
> Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from
> xscreensaver :
>
> http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg
>
> In my case, "Lock Screen After" is unchecked and I have no issues even
> with the two processes of xscreensaver.
>
> Not really sure how to fix your issue?
>
> Did you manage to fix it?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot !
>>
>> By "Lock Screen After", I was talking about the option in XScreenSaver.
>> This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks after slepp.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pierre Gobin
>>
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hello Pierre,

I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be back
again.

As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg

There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so
when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take
you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock
Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from
xscreensaver :

http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg

In my case, "Lock Screen After" is unchecked and I have no issues even with
the two processes of xscreensaver.

Not really sure how to fix your issue?

Did you manage to fix it?

Thanks!



On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot !
>
> By "Lock Screen After", I was talking about the option in XScreenSaver.
> This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks after slepp.
>
> Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] power button

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

I do that every day but because I know what I want to do, I didn't care
about any pop up message that would ask me what do I want?

I have installed Lubuntu 11.10 on Lenovo G570 Core i5 2nd Generation with
4GB RAM. I didn't have the time to play with it but I'm planning too. That
would be my first time to use/try Linux on a Laptop.
I guess I'll need these stuff with the laptop :)


On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Tim Bernhard  wrote:

> Funny how something so simple could go undetected by so many.  I guess
> most of us just don't use the power button on our machines.  Ha, ha...
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:11 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:
>
>> Good catch ! :) I'll add it for precise.
>>>
>>
>> Go Julien, GO! :D
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Good catch ! :) I'll add it for precise.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Julien Lavergne
>>>
>>> Le 11/28/2011 12:14 PM, Gabriel Salles a écrit :
>>> > I don't know if it is the same thing, but after I install the Lubuntu,
>>> > I go to the file ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml and add these lines:
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > lubuntu-logout
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Gabriel Salles
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2011/11/28 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) 
>>> >> Some  users requested here:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://120linux.com/lubuntu-el-boton-de-encendido-no-funciona/
>>> >>
>>> >> the power button ability again, reinstalling acpid. Is it really
>>> removed? Does it have heavy dependencies?
>>> >>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] power button

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

>
> Good catch ! :) I'll add it for precise.
>

Go Julien, GO! :D



On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:


> Good catch ! :) I'll add it for precise.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> Le 11/28/2011 12:14 PM, Gabriel Salles a écrit :
> > I don't know if it is the same thing, but after I install the Lubuntu,
> > I go to the file ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml and add these lines:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > lubuntu-logout
> > 
> > 
> >
> >
> > Gabriel Salles
> >
> >
> >
> > 2011/11/28 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) 
> >> Some  users requested here:
> >>
> >> http://120linux.com/lubuntu-el-boton-de-encendido-no-funciona/
> >>
> >> the power button ability again, reinstalling acpid. Is it really
> removed? Does it have heavy dependencies?
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] power button

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Same like Tim, I have the same thing here. However, I don't really care
whether I get a pop up message or not because my PC does NOT shutdown at
all (have tried many thing but it does not shutdown unless I press and hold
the Power Button).
However, it's good to have such option *BY DEFAULT*!

Thanks :)

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Tim Bernhard  wrote:


> I just tested the power button on my laptop with a fresh 11.10 install and
> I did nothing.  I added the lines to the lubuntu-rc.xml file and it worked
> after rebooting the system.
>
> Thanks Gabriel.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Chris  wrote:
>
>> Then I think we should change the lubuntu-rc.xml instead of installing a
>> new app.
>> If the functionality is already is available, then that should be the way
>> I think.
>>
>> With metta, Chris
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46, Leszek Lesner wrote:
>>
>>> Am 28.11.2011 12:42, schrieb Chris:
>>> > Does it give that window for asking what action you want to perform?
>>>
>>> Thats exactly what it does
>>>
>>>
>>> > 2011/11/28 Gabriel Salles 
>>> >
>>> >> I don't know if it is the same thing, but after I install the Lubuntu,
>>> >> I go to the file ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml and add these lines:
>>> >>
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> lubuntu-logout
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Gabriel Salles
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2011/11/28 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) 
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Some  users requested here:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://120linux.com/lubuntu-el-boton-de-encendido-no-funciona/
>>> >>>
>>> >>> the power button ability again, reinstalling acpid. Is it really
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

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Hi Pierre,

You welcome!

I had a similar issue and a friend of mine has suggested few steps that
apparently fixed the issue. There you go:

1- gksudo leafpad /etc/pm/config.d/config

2- SUSPEND_MODULES="your_driver"

As per this:

*-network
>   description: Wireless interface
>   physical id: 1
>   bus info: usb@1:5
>   logical name: wlan1
>   serial: 5c:d9:98:9e:57:ae
>   capabilities: ethernet physical wireless
>   configuration: broadcast=yes *driver=r8712u* ip=192.168.1.54
> multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
>


SUSPEND_MODULES="*r8712u*"

3- Be sure to proofread carefully, save and close leafpad.


If the above steps did not help, please let me know so we can try another
steps.


Sorry but what do you mean by:

Otherwise, "Lock Screen After" is unchecked...
>

Sorry for the late reply, I had problems with my Internet Connection (ISP
issue).

Thanks!



On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Pierre Gobin  wrote:

> Thanks for your answer.
>
> Here is the output of "sudo lshw -C network" :
>
> *-network:0
>   description: Ethernet interface
>   product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
>   vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>   physical id: 4
>   bus info: pci@:01:04.0
>   logical name: eth0
>   version: 10
>   serial: 00:17:31:2d:ac:e5
>   size: 10Mbit/s
>   capacity: 100Mbit/s
>   width: 32 bits
>   clock: 33MHz
>   capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt
> 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
>   configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too
> driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=half latency=64 link=no maxlatency=64 mingnt=32
> multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
>   resources: irq:19 ioport:c400(size=256) memory:cdeff800-cdeff8ff
>  *-network:1
>   description: Ethernet interface
>   product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
>   vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>   physical id: a
>   bus info: pci@:01:0a.0
>   logical name: eth1
>   version: 10
>   serial: 00:1e:2a:c9:75:ed
>   size: 10Mbit/s
>   capacity: 100Mbit/s
>   width: 32 bits
>   clock: 33MHz
>   capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt
> 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
>   configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too
> driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=half latency=64 link=no maxlatency=64 mingnt=32
> multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
>   resources: irq:22 ioport:c800(size=256) memory:cdeffc00-cdeffcff
>  *-network
>   description: Wireless interface
>   physical id: 1
>   bus info: usb@1:5
>   logical name: wlan1
>   serial: 5c:d9:98:9e:57:ae
>   capabilities: ethernet physical wireless
>   configuration: broadcast=yes driver=r8712u ip=192.168.1.54
> multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
>
>
> Otherwise, "Lock Screen After" is unchecked...
>
> Thank you for your help.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

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>
> With Lubuntu 11.10, my wifi USB key is disconnected after sleep, and I
> have to unplug and plug the key again. A solution ? Maybe it is a problem
> for Ubuntu in general.
>

Hello Pierre,

Would you please post here the output of:

sudo lshw -C network
>

After that, I'll write to you the steps you need to follow. I do have a USB
Wireless Adapter too and used to have many issues but not anymore.


Also, I have unchecked the option to lock the screen in XscreenSaver, but
> my screen still locks (and the screenlock is not very beautiful).
>


http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg

Just make sure "Lock Screen After" is unchecked/not selected.



On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Pierre Gobin  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> With Lubuntu 11.10, my wifi USB key is disconnected after sleep, and I
> have to unplug and plug the key again. A solution ? Maybe it is a problem
> for Ubuntu in general.
>
> Also, I have unchecked the option to lock the screen in XscreenSaver, but
> my screen still locks (and the screenlock is not very beautiful).
>
> Thanks to all,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT

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Hello Phill,

Hope you are doing fine!



> you need to assure our team that you are in for lubuntu for *the long term
> * and not just some college / university project.
>


Luckily, I'm done with College/University since 2004 :)
Above all, what does it look like I'm doing? sorry if that will sound rude
but if I want to leave Lubuntu, do you think after all the negativity I've
seen so far, what would stop me from leaving? why after each and every time
I feel someone is blocking me, I do give more and more?

*The right Question is:* Does Lubuntu Team want and accept someone with
VERY HIGH Energy like me? does Lubuntu Team accept someone who breathes,
drinks, and eats Linux and Lubuntu? does Lubuntu Team accept someone who is
enjoying what he's doing to the maximum for the first time in this entire
life (I do have a life but never done something I enjoy as much as I enjoy
what I'm doing right now)?
I'm different, Phill. In case you don't know me yet, please allow me to
share this simple fact with you and everyone here. I'm different from those
you have seen who faded away. I'm what they call exception. I do hate to
talk or write much but I'm sure you can see what I'm doing. However, I feel
so bad because there are much to do and I'm still at the very beginning.

*Short version to the above is:* *YES*, I'll be the pain in everyone's neck
here :P I'm here for the long term. Is that all? :)


May I, on a personal note, also warn you against something that my mentor
> warned me upon. Burnout, whereby you work too many hours that cannot be
> sustained (which you have already pretty much said you have done), and your
> not wishing to have a mentor (experienced person) help you. If you run
> yourself to death, or just decide to leave lubuntu the Lubuntu team will
> have to pick up the pieces. Please, my young friend, take your time - we
> have seen burn out before.
>

Where I came from, if someone is older than me by one year, I must respect
him. Above all, regardless of anything else, I do respect everyone here.
Your advice is very much accepted and respected. I do appreciate that
indeed. Glad there is someone who cares about other members :)

Now, please be sure that I have someone who is taking good care of me and
knows when to stop me. Also, it's true that I'm stubborn but I do listen so
I took your advice and didn't reply you right away.

I enjoy what I do, period. However, I'll take it easy.

As for running myself to death ... well, when it's my time then it's time
time no matter what and that's not something I do have control over.
As for leaving ... yet again, that's is way beyond impossible ;)
As for not wishing to have a mentor, I prefer to talk about that later, not
now :)

Thank you Phill and hope you'll be back to the UK safely :)

Ali/amjjawad




On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Hi Amjjawad,
>
> for major stuff on lubuntu.net you need to speak to Mario. I have seen
> chats, you need to assure our team that you are in for lubuntu for the long
> term and not just some college / university project. Whilst this may seem
> harsh, so many have done it over the years & teams / threads / projects
> have all gotten the pain of projects being abandoned. Please do not think
> we are being negative, just that like all F/OSS projects we have had people
> come and go.
>
> May I, on a personal note, also warn you against something that my mentor
> warned me upon. Burnout, whereby you work too many hours that cannot be
> sustained (which you have already pretty much said you have done), and your
> not wishing to have a mentor (experienced person) help you. If you run
> yourself to death, or just decide to leave lubuntu the Lubuntu team will
> have to pick up the pieces. Please, my young friend, take your time - we
> have seen burn out before.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On 12 November 2011 20:34, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
>
>> Thanks A. Andjelkovic :)
>>
>> We'll start working hopefully soon and get back to you all :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:35 PM, A. Andjelkovic 
>> wrote:
>>
>> *Go for it guys :). If you bring up good ideas, together with mockups,
>>> your ideas will most likely go through. We all work together and
>>> constructive criticism is important.*
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Martin Olesen 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi everybody.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for letting me join the group. I am Mörgæs from Ubuntuforums,
>>> and I
>>> > have been a full-time Buntu user since 5.10. I don't expect people to
>>> > understand Icelandic, so let me first of 

[Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu 11.10] It's my turn to report some issues

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hi,

http://i41.tinypic.com/2ekss1v.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/2gwfb55.jpg

On Desktop.
Usually it happens when I drag and drop files from desktop to a new folder
on desktop.
Re-producible? YES.
First time? NO.
Happened before? YES, with Lubuntu 11.04 many times.
How to fix it? I logout or restart. When it happened few mins ago, I had to
logout twice.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

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Hello Chris,

12AM is great for me as I'm a Batman and don't really sleep at that time
unless I'm forced to :)

Thanks!

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Chris  wrote:

> Aloha Ali,
>
> Seeing the Fridge [1] or better put it's calender [2] already has it's 7
> PM UTC slot filled did Julian suggest to take the 8 PM UTC (or GMT) slot.
> That would make it 12AM for you Ali.
> By the way, my vote is also for wednesday.
>
> With metta, Chris
>
> [1] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
> [2] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 15:20, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
>
>>  I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting
>>> on the 23th.
>>>
>>
>> If that's 7:00pm GMT time, it means it's 11:00pm my time. My time is +4
>> GMT. If that's the case, I'm ok with that. I don't care about the day, all
>> are the same to me, just the time what is important.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> One thing I would like to organize for this cycle, is a weekly meeting
>>> on IRC, to discuss topics more easily and to take decisions when it's
>>> needed.
>>>
>>> I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do
>>> it less often in the future, if it's not necessary.
>>>
>>> Finding a time for this is ... not very easy :) I don't want to do it
>>> during the week-end, to be all able to have a week-end far from IT and
>>> Internet connection :)
>>>
>>> I also don't think we should change the time for every meetings, because
>>> it's the best solution to forget the meeting. But, we can change it after
>>> some time (like 3 months).
>>>
>>> I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting
>>> on the 23th.
>>>
>>> It'll not be necessary to attempt all the meetings. You can attempt when
>>> you have subjects to discuss, but you can also adding a subject to the
>>> schedule, so people can discuss it even if you can't be online at this time.
>>>
>>> Let me know what you think about this.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Julien Lavergne
>>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

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>
> I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting
> on the 23th.
>

If that's 7:00pm GMT time, it means it's 11:00pm my time. My time is +4
GMT. If that's the case, I'm ok with that. I don't care about the day, all
are the same to me, just the time what is important.

Thanks!

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> One thing I would like to organize for this cycle, is a weekly meeting on
> IRC, to discuss topics more easily and to take decisions when it's needed.
> I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do it
> less often in the future, if it's not necessary.
>
> Finding a time for this is ... not very easy :) I don't want to do it
> during the week-end, to be all able to have a week-end far from IT and
> Internet connection :)
>
> I also don't think we should change the time for every meetings, because
> it's the best solution to forget the meeting. But, we can change it after
> some time (like 3 months).
>
> I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting
> on the 23th.
>
> It'll not be necessary to attempt all the meetings. You can attempt when
> you have subjects to discuss, but you can also adding a subject to the
> schedule, so people can discuss it even if you can't be online at this time.
>
> Let me know what you think about this.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Tracking progress (was: Re: [Lubuntu 12.04] My Suggestions)

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hi Jonathan,



> This mailing list is more likely to be seen and responded to by Lubuntu
> developers than forum threads, IMO.
>

I do respect your opinion and I do understand what you are saying and I
also see your point but ... have you checked how many users have actually
posted over that thread? and they are still doing that on daily basis? I
hope you do :)

Plus, when I posted over there, I could simple have done it here but I did
that over there to be just like them and be one of them and add my voice to
their voice. Being a member of Lubuntu (NO, I'm not a developer - too bad
I'm not) and be so close to users IS IMHO VERY important, period.

I did that I did as a Lubuntu User. Please, don't look at it as a feedback
or suggestion from a fellow member of the same team :)


Please don't make extra work for our scarce and overworked developers :)
>

Sorry but don't really know what to comment here so I'll remain silent.
Sorry if my suggestions caused any confusion and/or delay, my bad.

Thanks a lot :)

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:38 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:

> On 11/12/2011 12:38 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:
>
> > *My suggestions*:
>
> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11447159&postcount=94
> >
> > *Original thread*: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870442
> >
> > In case I want to add more, shall I update my post or send them through
> > this email?
>
>
> This mailing list is more likely to be seen and responded to by Lubuntu
> developers than forum threads, IMO.
>
> > If there is any kind of updates about 12.04, please let me know. Thanks!
>
>
> Please don't make extra work for our scarce and overworked developers :)
>
> Instead, if you are interested in tracking progress towards Lubuntu
> 12.04, please login to the wiki and read the wiki page at
>
>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/P-Plan
>
> then click the "Subscribe" button so you are emailed about all changes
> to that page.
>
> Then, subscribe to each of the Lubuntu 12.04 blueprints on Launchpad, so
> you will automatically get emails as they are updated.
>
>
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-lubuntu-p-users-experience
>
>
> is one such blueprint, I can't seem to find the others right now, I
> think that there should (theoretically) be one each for the "clean
> house" and "organization" parts of the plan too.  Maybe Julien can
> provide pointers to those for us.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

With LXTask and GNOME System Monitor opened along side with a browser, that
was already slow. I haven't tried the app you suggested so I was JUST
wondering, that is all :)

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:01 AM,  wrote:

> What has the ram size todo with the harddisk space the app and it
> dependencies use ?
>
>
>
>
> -- Gesendet von meinem HP Veer
>
> --
> Am 12.11.2011 21:57 schrieb amjjawad HOOHAA :
>
>
> Yes, I do remember but have you seen the long list of dependences that
> come with it? :)
> I'm afraid with 242MB RAM, I may not get what I really want - just a
> thought.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:53 AM,  wrote:
>
>> As I mentioned it before ksysguard is the only tool that gives numbers
>> that are reasonable. The other way would be going into /proc and check it
>> manually
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Gesendet von meinem HP Veer
>>
>> --
>> Am 12.11.2011 21:49 schrieb amjjawad HOOHAA :
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Being little sick and having problems with sleeping, I wasn't able to do
>> much regarding the test. Above all, I'm having different readings using
>> some of the tools which have been mentioned here. I'm not sure what to do?
>> each tool is having different readings than the other. I'm mainly using
>> LXTask and GNOME System Monitor. Each one is showing different process for
>> example LXTask is showing 3 process for Chromium while GNOME System Monitor
>> is showing 5. Firefox as always will be shown as one process or two
>> sometimes (plugin-container).
>>
>> I think there must be a better efficient tool to do this benchmark. I
>> don't think it should be done manually.
>>
>> I'll keep looking ...
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> P.S.
>> Just thought to update you about that.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:52 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:
>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> With all due respect to EVERYONE, I'm not sure if this
>>> debate/discussion/argument is even healthy or not any more?
>>> I know we, as Lubuntu Team Members, must discuss between us first of all
>>> but we must not forget about one simple fact ... USERS have the louder
>>> voice IMHO. I do believe that such choice must first be made by users. I
>>> mean, they should agree about that.
>>>
>>> EVERYONE, and I mean everyone on Ubuntu Forum is asking us to keep
>>> Lubuntu as it's and to improve it to be even better BUT NOT TO follow
>>> Ubuntu's Steps.
>>> Everyone is aware that Mint is Rank 1 now on Distrowatch. Who knows what
>>> could happen? Do you guys know how many users has moved from Ubuntu to
>>> Lubuntu? I almost see 5-10 every day. I'm ready to do a survey and see how
>>> many actually moved to Lubuntu and will start that today, at least for my
>>> own information.
>>>
>>> I downloaded Fedora 16 LXDE today because I'm having Multi-Boot machine
>>> with many LXDE Distributions to compare between them. It has Firefox by
>>> default, not Chromium. This is FYI not FYA.
>>>
>>> I suggest instead of spending some time discussing about that, why not
>>> do some tests and send the report via mailing list?
>>>
>>> As many already mentioned, it's "apt-get install" and mission
>>> accomplished.
>>> IMHO, there are a lot to talk about rather than Firefox VS Chromium talk.
>>>
>>> I'm out of this discussion and going to do two things and get back to
>>> you:
>>>
>>> 1- I'll do my test and send it via mailing list.
>>> 2- I'll write my suggestions regarding 12.04 on my thread and send it to
>>> everyone.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't mean to be rude here at all, just stating my humble opinion and
>>> I could be wrong but that's my point after all. Disagree but don't
>>> disrespect is my motto :)
>>>
>>> Cya
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 09.11.2011 15:55, schrieb A. Andjelkovic:
>>>> > Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather
>>>> "This
>>>> > is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".
>>>> Isn't that the same ?
>>>> I am running Chromium here on a 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8 with 256 MB RAM.
>>>> I guess that is a low machine.
>&g

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Yes, I do remember but have you seen the long list of dependences that come
with it? :)
I'm afraid with 242MB RAM, I may not get what I really want - just a
thought.


On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:53 AM,  wrote:

> As I mentioned it before ksysguard is the only tool that gives numbers
> that are reasonable. The other way would be going into /proc and check it
> manually
>
>
>
> -- Gesendet von meinem HP Veer
>
> --
> Am 12.11.2011 21:49 schrieb amjjawad HOOHAA :
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Being little sick and having problems with sleeping, I wasn't able to do
> much regarding the test. Above all, I'm having different readings using
> some of the tools which have been mentioned here. I'm not sure what to do?
> each tool is having different readings than the other. I'm mainly using
> LXTask and GNOME System Monitor. Each one is showing different process for
> example LXTask is showing 3 process for Chromium while GNOME System Monitor
> is showing 5. Firefox as always will be shown as one process or two
> sometimes (plugin-container).
>
> I think there must be a better efficient tool to do this benchmark. I
> don't think it should be done manually.
>
> I'll keep looking ...
>
> Thanks!
>
> P.S.
> Just thought to update you about that.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:52 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>>
>> With all due respect to EVERYONE, I'm not sure if this
>> debate/discussion/argument is even healthy or not any more?
>> I know we, as Lubuntu Team Members, must discuss between us first of all
>> but we must not forget about one simple fact ... USERS have the louder
>> voice IMHO. I do believe that such choice must first be made by users. I
>> mean, they should agree about that.
>>
>> EVERYONE, and I mean everyone on Ubuntu Forum is asking us to keep
>> Lubuntu as it's and to improve it to be even better BUT NOT TO follow
>> Ubuntu's Steps.
>> Everyone is aware that Mint is Rank 1 now on Distrowatch. Who knows what
>> could happen? Do you guys know how many users has moved from Ubuntu to
>> Lubuntu? I almost see 5-10 every day. I'm ready to do a survey and see how
>> many actually moved to Lubuntu and will start that today, at least for my
>> own information.
>>
>> I downloaded Fedora 16 LXDE today because I'm having Multi-Boot machine
>> with many LXDE Distributions to compare between them. It has Firefox by
>> default, not Chromium. This is FYI not FYA.
>>
>> I suggest instead of spending some time discussing about that, why not do
>> some tests and send the report via mailing list?
>>
>> As many already mentioned, it's "apt-get install" and mission
>> accomplished.
>> IMHO, there are a lot to talk about rather than Firefox VS Chromium talk.
>>
>> I'm out of this discussion and going to do two things and get back to you:
>>
>> 1- I'll do my test and send it via mailing list.
>> 2- I'll write my suggestions regarding 12.04 on my thread and send it to
>> everyone.
>>
>>
>> I don't mean to be rude here at all, just stating my humble opinion and I
>> could be wrong but that's my point after all. Disagree but don't disrespect
>> is my motto :)
>>
>> Cya
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote:
>>
>>> Am 09.11.2011 15:55, schrieb A. Andjelkovic:
>>> > Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather
>>> "This
>>> > is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".
>>> Isn't that the same ?
>>> I am running Chromium here on a 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8 with 256 MB RAM.
>>> I guess that is a low machine.
>>> If you get to even lower hardware than both browsers feel slugish.
>>>
>>> > Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
>>> such
>>> > personal opinions out of this discussion.
>>>
>>> If you only choose software on the base of how much ram they use on
>>> ancient hardware then you will definitely fail in delivering a good user
>>> experience. Personal opinions matter a lot if they are supported by good
>>> arguments.
>>> And no I don't want to start a war here. I just want to discuss the
>>> advantages and disadvantages of both browsers.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Google is dropping H264 support:
>>> >
>>> http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.h

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hi everyone,

Being little sick and having problems with sleeping, I wasn't able to do
much regarding the test. Above all, I'm having different readings using
some of the tools which have been mentioned here. I'm not sure what to do?
each tool is having different readings than the other. I'm mainly using
LXTask and GNOME System Monitor. Each one is showing different process for
example LXTask is showing 3 process for Chromium while GNOME System Monitor
is showing 5. Firefox as always will be shown as one process or two
sometimes (plugin-container).

I think there must be a better efficient tool to do this benchmark. I don't
think it should be done manually.

I'll keep looking ...

Thanks!

P.S.
Just thought to update you about that.


On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:52 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:

> Guys,
>
> With all due respect to EVERYONE, I'm not sure if this
> debate/discussion/argument is even healthy or not any more?
> I know we, as Lubuntu Team Members, must discuss between us first of all
> but we must not forget about one simple fact ... USERS have the louder
> voice IMHO. I do believe that such choice must first be made by users. I
> mean, they should agree about that.
>
> EVERYONE, and I mean everyone on Ubuntu Forum is asking us to keep Lubuntu
> as it's and to improve it to be even better BUT NOT TO follow Ubuntu's
> Steps.
> Everyone is aware that Mint is Rank 1 now on Distrowatch. Who knows what
> could happen? Do you guys know how many users has moved from Ubuntu to
> Lubuntu? I almost see 5-10 every day. I'm ready to do a survey and see how
> many actually moved to Lubuntu and will start that today, at least for my
> own information.
>
> I downloaded Fedora 16 LXDE today because I'm having Multi-Boot machine
> with many LXDE Distributions to compare between them. It has Firefox by
> default, not Chromium. This is FYI not FYA.
>
> I suggest instead of spending some time discussing about that, why not do
> some tests and send the report via mailing list?
>
> As many already mentioned, it's "apt-get install" and mission accomplished.
> IMHO, there are a lot to talk about rather than Firefox VS Chromium talk.
>
> I'm out of this discussion and going to do two things and get back to you:
>
> 1- I'll do my test and send it via mailing list.
> 2- I'll write my suggestions regarding 12.04 on my thread and send it to
> everyone.
>
>
> I don't mean to be rude here at all, just stating my humble opinion and I
> could be wrong but that's my point after all. Disagree but don't disrespect
> is my motto :)
>
> Cya
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote:
>
>> Am 09.11.2011 15:55, schrieb A. Andjelkovic:
>> > Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather
>> "This
>> > is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".
>> Isn't that the same ?
>> I am running Chromium here on a 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8 with 256 MB RAM.
>> I guess that is a low machine.
>> If you get to even lower hardware than both browsers feel slugish.
>>
>> > Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
>> such
>> > personal opinions out of this discussion.
>>
>> If you only choose software on the base of how much ram they use on
>> ancient hardware then you will definitely fail in delivering a good user
>> experience. Personal opinions matter a lot if they are supported by good
>> arguments.
>> And no I don't want to start a war here. I just want to discuss the
>> advantages and disadvantages of both browsers.
>>
>>
>> > Google is dropping H264 support:
>> >
>> http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html
>>
>> Google Chrome != Chromium
>>
>> > Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
>> > sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
>> > available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
>> > it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.
>>
>> At least from the user perspective you have still the advantage that one
>> tab cannot crash the whole browser.
>>
>> > While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free
>> > web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open
>> > than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open
>> > source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
>> > nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is w

[Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu 12.04] My Suggestions

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hello Julien,

Hope it's not too late for me to send some suggestions for Lubuntu 12.04 :)
I was so busy lately and couldn't have some free time until last night
beside I'm a bit sick these days.

*My suggestions*:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11447159&postcount=94

*Original thread*: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870442

In case I want to add more, shall I update my post or send them through
this email?

Thank you!

P.S.
If there is any kind of updates about 12.04, please let me know. Thanks!

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Thanks A. Andjelkovic :)

We'll start working hopefully soon and get back to you all :)



On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:35 PM, A. Andjelkovic wrote:

*Go for it guys :). If you bring up good ideas, together with mockups,
> your ideas will most likely go through. We all work together and
> constructive criticism is important.*
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Martin Olesen 
> wrote:
> > Hi everybody.
> >
> > Thanks for letting me join the group. I am Mörgæs from Ubuntuforums, and
> I
> > have been a full-time Buntu user since 5.10. I don't expect people to
> > understand Icelandic, so let me first of all reveal that the name means
> > "penguin" - though we don't have them around here.
> >
> > As you may have seen already, I have some ideas for a new web site:
> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945&postcount=205
> > I shall save you from the full explanation. You will see a demo later,
> as I
> > believe in "show it, don't tell it". Long story short: I am focusing on
> > receiving the beginner having Windows background and the intermediate
> user
> > having Ubuntu (but not Lubuntu) background. Also, the site should have a
> > clear hierarchy indicating what is important to the user right here,
> right
> > now, and what can be left for later.
> > For now I just ask for an indication like "yes, we would like to
> experiment
> > and consider a new wording on the web side". If on the other hand the
> > general opinion is that the site can not be improved, there is no point
> in
> > going further.
> > I expect to be working together with Amjjawad. Our scope is text and
> layout,
> > and later on we would be happy to work with someone capable of graphics
> and
> > illustrations.
> > So, what do you say?
> >
> > Regards
> > Mörgæs
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hi Phill,

Can I take that as a YES and GO for me and Martin to start working on our
little project to improve the website?

Thanks!

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Hi amjjawad,
>
> As you will be aware, hosting for lubuntu,net has only just been gotten
> again. The site was exceeding the bandwidth allowance. As has been
> mentioned previously, please make some mock ups so that the site controller
> can look into how they could be implemented.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On 12 November 2011 17:31, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your reply, Yorvuk :)
>>
>> I'm very much aware of what you wrote but what we all need to be aware is
>> one simple fact. Lubuntu is growing bigger and if we won't be as fast as
>> its growth, well, I'm afraid we won't be able to catch up with that.
>>
>> Having the said, and because I do believe in ACTIONS more than words, I'd
>> like to inform everyone that Myself and Martin (mörgæs) are willing to help
>> each other and start a small Marketing Team which will take care first of
>> all about our website and that will be the very first beginning and that is
>> exactly what Lubuntu Needs (what the website needs).
>>
>> I need to hear back from you ... what do you think? since everyone busy
>> with real life, Me and Martin are willing to help with the Website.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> P.S.
>> Martin has already joined the team so:
>>
>> Hello and Welcome Martin to a *NEW WORLD* where *Wings* and *Speed of
>> Light* are your basic tools to explore this astonishing, exceptional,
>> unbelievable, remarkable and stunning master piece we do call *L*ubuntu
>>
>>
>>
>> I would suggest, that if mörgæs really wants to help, he produces some
>>> mock-ups of the site and/or points us to some examples of his work that
>>> overcome the percieved problems with lubuntu.net.  Waiting for other
>>> people will never achieve anything, nor will threats.  The lubuntu team is
>>> very small and very busy, often with real life.  I haven't been able to put
>>> the amount of work into the last couple of releases that I would of liked
>>> due to real life.
>>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Yorvyk wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:30:02 +0400
>>> amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi there,
>>> >
>>> > Long story short, PLEASE read this and reply:
>>> >
>>> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945&postcount=205
>>> >
>>> > This guy (mörgæs <http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075>) has
>>> offered
>>> > his help 2 months ago. I have already talked to someone in our team
>>> about
>>> > that but he did not show any interest. His reply was unhelpful.
>>> >
>>> > Now, I'm asking this publicly. To whoever in charge of our website,
>>> PLEASE
>>> > do listen to others and it's time to do some real work on our website.
>>> > www.lubuntu.net is VERY important. With such growth of this amazing
>>> OS,
>>> > it's a MUST have thing. I'm not sure how you think or what is your
>>> plans
>>> > but if truth to be told, I'm also one of those who offered some help to
>>> > update the website but the reply was so unhelpful at all.
>>> >
>>> > This is a *TEAM WORK* and if one can't do that, let the team do it.
>>> >
>>> > So sorry to write in such way, I'm sorry if this sound rude but I do
>>> love
>>> > Lubuntu (it's not a secret anymore) and it's not only me, many others
>>> do
>>> > that as well. Why do you block them? why not to listen to them? what
>>> will
>>> > happen if you do what others are suggesting?
>>> >
>>> > Now, I'm not going to reply
>>> > mörgæs<http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075>but one of the team
>>> > who is in charge of our website must reply him IMHO.
>>> >
>>> > Thank you so much!
>>> >
>>> > ALL HAIL LUBUNTU!
>>> >
>>> > P.S.
>>> > I'll inform him (mörgæs <http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075>)
>>> that
>>> > I sent his post and waiting for a reply.
>>> >
>>> I would suggest, that if mörgæs really wants to help, he produces some
>>> mock-ups of the site and/or points us to 

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Thank you for your reply, Yorvuk :)

I'm very much aware of what you wrote but what we all need to be aware is
one simple fact. Lubuntu is growing bigger and if we won't be as fast as
its growth, well, I'm afraid we won't be able to catch up with that.

Having the said, and because I do believe in ACTIONS more than words, I'd
like to inform everyone that Myself and Martin (mörgæs) are willing to help
each other and start a small Marketing Team which will take care first of
all about our website and that will be the very first beginning and that is
exactly what Lubuntu Needs (what the website needs).

I need to hear back from you ... what do you think? since everyone busy
with real life, Me and Martin are willing to help with the Website.

Thank you!

P.S.
Martin has already joined the team so:

Hello and Welcome Martin to a *NEW WORLD* where *Wings* and *Speed of
Light*are your basic tools to explore this astonishing, exceptional,
unbelievable, remarkable and stunning master piece we do call *L*ubuntu



I would suggest, that if mörgæs really wants to help, he produces some
> mock-ups of the site and/or points us to some examples of his work that
> overcome the percieved problems with lubuntu.net.  Waiting for other
> people will never achieve anything, nor will threats.  The lubuntu team is
> very small and very busy, often with real life.  I haven't been able to put
> the amount of work into the last couple of releases that I would of liked
> due to real life.
>

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Yorvyk wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:30:02 +0400
> amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Long story short, PLEASE read this and reply:
> >
> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945&postcount=205
> >
> > This guy (mörgæs <http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075>) has
> offered
> > his help 2 months ago. I have already talked to someone in our team about
> > that but he did not show any interest. His reply was unhelpful.
> >
> > Now, I'm asking this publicly. To whoever in charge of our website,
> PLEASE
> > do listen to others and it's time to do some real work on our website.
> > www.lubuntu.net is VERY important. With such growth of this amazing OS,
> > it's a MUST have thing. I'm not sure how you think or what is your plans
> > but if truth to be told, I'm also one of those who offered some help to
> > update the website but the reply was so unhelpful at all.
> >
> > This is a *TEAM WORK* and if one can't do that, let the team do it.
> >
> > So sorry to write in such way, I'm sorry if this sound rude but I do love
> > Lubuntu (it's not a secret anymore) and it's not only me, many others do
> > that as well. Why do you block them? why not to listen to them? what will
> > happen if you do what others are suggesting?
> >
> > Now, I'm not going to reply
> > mörgæs<http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075>but one of the team
> > who is in charge of our website must reply him IMHO.
> >
> > Thank you so much!
> >
> > ALL HAIL LUBUNTU!
> >
> > P.S.
> > I'll inform him (mörgæs <http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075>)
> that
> > I sent his post and waiting for a reply.
> >
> I would suggest, that if mörgæs really wants to help, he produces some
> mock-ups of the site and/or points us to some examples of his work that
> overcome the percieved problems with lubuntu.net.  Waiting for other
> people will never achieve anything, nor will threats.  The lubuntu team is
> very small and very busy, often with real life.  I haven't been able to put
> the amount of work into the last couple of releases that I would of liked
> due to real life.
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hi there,

Long story short, PLEASE read this and reply:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945&postcount=205

This guy (mörgæs ) has offered
his help 2 months ago. I have already talked to someone in our team about
that but he did not show any interest. His reply was unhelpful.

Now, I'm asking this publicly. To whoever in charge of our website, PLEASE
do listen to others and it's time to do some real work on our website.
www.lubuntu.net is VERY important. With such growth of this amazing OS,
it's a MUST have thing. I'm not sure how you think or what is your plans
but if truth to be told, I'm also one of those who offered some help to
update the website but the reply was so unhelpful at all.

This is a *TEAM WORK* and if one can't do that, let the team do it.

So sorry to write in such way, I'm sorry if this sound rude but I do love
Lubuntu (it's not a secret anymore) and it's not only me, many others do
that as well. Why do you block them? why not to listen to them? what will
happen if you do what others are suggesting?

Now, I'm not going to reply
mörgæsbut one of the team
who is in charge of our website must reply him IMHO.

Thank you so much!

ALL HAIL LUBUNTU!

P.S.
I'll inform him (mörgæs ) that
I sent his post and waiting for a reply.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXDE Forum

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Hi there,

It's a bit better but yet slow.

No, we have not. I'm not sure how to do that.

Thanks!

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Benny Hult  wrote:

> Works okay from my phone with 1Mbit HSDPA connection.
> Sounds more like a routing problem.
>
> Have you or your friend with high speed internet connection tested
> this with traceroute?amjjawad HOOHAA kirjoitti 11.11.2011 12:45:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Yet again, http://forum.lxde.org is so slow and not responsive at all.
> I have a friend in another country with a high Internet speed
> connection so I asked him to test it and he confirmed the website is
> SO SLOW so it's not my PC or connection.
>
> Is there anything wrong? some kind of maintenance? in case there is
> any, is there any way that we can be informed? a banner maybe or an
> email so one can know at least what is going on?
>
> Please check and update us.
>
> Thank you!
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[Lubuntu-desktop] LXDE Forum

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Hello everyone,

Yet again, http://forum.lxde.org is so slow and not responsive at all. I
have a friend in another country with a high Internet speed connection so I
asked him to test it and he confirmed the website is SO SLOW so it's not my
PC or connection.

Is there anything wrong? some kind of maintenance? in case there is any, is
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Please check and update us.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Guys,

With all due respect to EVERYONE, I'm not sure if this
debate/discussion/argument is even healthy or not any more?
I know we, as Lubuntu Team Members, must discuss between us first of all
but we must not forget about one simple fact ... USERS have the louder
voice IMHO. I do believe that such choice must first be made by users. I
mean, they should agree about that.

EVERYONE, and I mean everyone on Ubuntu Forum is asking us to keep Lubuntu
as it's and to improve it to be even better BUT NOT TO follow Ubuntu's
Steps.
Everyone is aware that Mint is Rank 1 now on Distrowatch. Who knows what
could happen? Do you guys know how many users has moved from Ubuntu to
Lubuntu? I almost see 5-10 every day. I'm ready to do a survey and see how
many actually moved to Lubuntu and will start that today, at least for my
own information.

I downloaded Fedora 16 LXDE today because I'm having Multi-Boot machine
with many LXDE Distributions to compare between them. It has Firefox by
default, not Chromium. This is FYI not FYA.

I suggest instead of spending some time discussing about that, why not do
some tests and send the report via mailing list?

As many already mentioned, it's "apt-get install" and mission accomplished.
IMHO, there are a lot to talk about rather than Firefox VS Chromium talk.

I'm out of this discussion and going to do two things and get back to you:

1- I'll do my test and send it via mailing list.
2- I'll write my suggestions regarding 12.04 on my thread and send it to
everyone.


I don't mean to be rude here at all, just stating my humble opinion and I
could be wrong but that's my point after all. Disagree but don't disrespect
is my motto :)

Cya


On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Leszek Lesner  wrote:

> Am 09.11.2011 15:55, schrieb A. Andjelkovic:
> > Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather
> "This
> > is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".
> Isn't that the same ?
> I am running Chromium here on a 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8 with 256 MB RAM.
> I guess that is a low machine.
> If you get to even lower hardware than both browsers feel slugish.
>
> > Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
> such
> > personal opinions out of this discussion.
>
> If you only choose software on the base of how much ram they use on
> ancient hardware then you will definitely fail in delivering a good user
> experience. Personal opinions matter a lot if they are supported by good
> arguments.
> And no I don't want to start a war here. I just want to discuss the
> advantages and disadvantages of both browsers.
>
>
> > Google is dropping H264 support:
> > http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html
>
> Google Chrome != Chromium
>
> > Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
> > sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
> > available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
> > it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.
>
> At least from the user perspective you have still the advantage that one
> tab cannot crash the whole browser.
>
> > While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free
> > web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open
> > than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open
> > source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
> > nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope Firefox
> > continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has
> > different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien and
> > the Lubuntu devs make their own evaluation. Both browsers are fully
> > supported in Ubuntu (Canonical is looking to hire someone who can help
> > maintain Chromium).
>
> I really don't think that if Lubuntu would ship Chromium instead of
> Firefox it will hurt Mozilla soo much that they have to fear their
> existens.
> And to be clear here, if we would to have choose a non free vs. a free
> software then I would also argue its definitely better to promote the
> free software. But in our case we have to made a choice between two free
> software products.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Ok, on the PC where I'm planning to do the test, the reading of both LXTask
and GNOME System Monitor are equal now :)

http://i39.tinypic.com/10ym7me.jpg

I don't know what is wrong with my Lubuntu 11.04? it's acting crazy
recently.

Will try to do the test today and will let you know :)


On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:34 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:

> Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
>> such personal opinions out of this discussion.I think we can all agree that
>> both Firefox and Chromium are rich in features.
>>
>> We are simply trying to find out which browser, out of Firefox and
>> Chromium, use the least resources.
>> We want to chose the lightest of the two to be our out-of-the-box web
>> browser, whatever users prefer to use after that is simply an apt-get away.
>> *Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather
>> "This is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".*
>>
>>
> Could NOT agree more :)
> Well said!
>
> I second this:
>
> *Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather
>> "This is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".*
>>
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:55 PM, A. Andjelkovic wrote:
>
>> Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
>> such personal opinions out of this discussion.
>> I think we can all agree that both Firefox and Chromium are rich in
>> features.
>> We are simply trying to find out which browser, out of Firefox and
>> Chromium, use the least resources.
>> We want to chose the lightest of the two to be our out-of-the-box web
>> browser, whatever users prefer to use after that is simply an apt-get away.
>> Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather
>> "This is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Jeremy Bicha  wrote:
>>
>>> On 9 November 2011 06:03, Leszek Lesner  wrote:
>>>
>>> > In my view Chromium offers still better features than firefox. Just
>>> look
>>> > at the HTML5 capabilities it just beats firefox here with in my view
>>> > important things just like HTML5 videoplayback (H264 is supported)
>>>
>>> Google is dropping H264 support:
>>> http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html
>>>
>>> > or the fact that every browser tab in chromium is running as a
>>> different
>>> > process in a sandbox which makes a crash of one tab not concerning for
>>> > other tabs.
>>>
>>> Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
>>> sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
>>> available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
>>> it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.
>>>
>>> > All in all I am in flavor of Chromium as its still faster and offers
>>> the
>>> > better features.
>>>
>>> That's a bit subjective as Firefox also offers unique features: It's
>>> possible to run a few hundred tabs in Firefox; the design of
>>> Chromium's tabbar makes that much more painful in Chromium. Firefox
>>> has a much more powerful addon framework (although Chromium may
>>> improve this next year). The user has more control over his data with
>>> Firefox Sync than with Google's version.
>>>
>>> While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free
>>> web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open
>>> than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open
>>> source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
>>> nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope Firefox
>>> continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has
>>> different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien and
>>> the Lubuntu devs make their own evaluation. Both browsers are fully
>>> supported in Ubuntu (Canonical is looking to hire someone who can help
>>> maintain Chromium).
>>>
>>> Jeremy
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

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>
> Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
> such personal opinions out of this discussion.I think we can all agree that
> both Firefox and Chromium are rich in features.
> We are simply trying to find out which browser, out of Firefox and
> Chromium, use the least resources.
> We want to chose the lightest of the two to be our out-of-the-box web
> browser, whatever users prefer to use after that is simply an apt-get away.
> *Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather
> "This is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".*
>
>
Could NOT agree more :)
Well said!

I second this:

> *Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather
> "This is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".*
>

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:55 PM, A. Andjelkovic wrote:

> Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
> such personal opinions out of this discussion.
> I think we can all agree that both Firefox and Chromium are rich in
> features.
> We are simply trying to find out which browser, out of Firefox and
> Chromium, use the least resources.
> We want to chose the lightest of the two to be our out-of-the-box web
> browser, whatever users prefer to use after that is simply an apt-get away.
> Let's not think in terms of "This is what I would prefer" but rather "This
> is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer".
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Jeremy Bicha  wrote:
>
>> On 9 November 2011 06:03, Leszek Lesner  wrote:
>>
>> > In my view Chromium offers still better features than firefox. Just look
>> > at the HTML5 capabilities it just beats firefox here with in my view
>> > important things just like HTML5 videoplayback (H264 is supported)
>>
>> Google is dropping H264 support:
>> http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html
>>
>> > or the fact that every browser tab in chromium is running as a different
>> > process in a sandbox which makes a crash of one tab not concerning for
>> > other tabs.
>>
>> Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
>> sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
>> available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
>> it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.
>>
>> > All in all I am in flavor of Chromium as its still faster and offers the
>> > better features.
>>
>> That's a bit subjective as Firefox also offers unique features: It's
>> possible to run a few hundred tabs in Firefox; the design of
>> Chromium's tabbar makes that much more painful in Chromium. Firefox
>> has a much more powerful addon framework (although Chromium may
>> improve this next year). The user has more control over his data with
>> Firefox Sync than with Google's version.
>>
>> While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free
>> web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open
>> than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open
>> source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
>> nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope Firefox
>> continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has
>> different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien and
>> the Lubuntu devs make their own evaluation. Both browsers are fully
>> supported in Ubuntu (Canonical is looking to hire someone who can help
>> maintain Chromium).
>>
>> Jeremy
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

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>
> I don't know if this is correct, but I'm a little concerned for if the
> machines will support the test? We're talking about Pentium 3 & 4 and 256
> to 512 ram.


My machine is P4 @3GHz - 1M Cache. RAM is 512MB which can be dropped to
256MB.
One browser will be running at one time and reading will be written down.
Then the other browser will be running and same scenario applies.
Then, we compare between the readings.

With newer machines, users shouldn't notice any difference. With old
machine, I think it might be some differences. Only test will tell :)

I think my machine will be a good match for such test. It's a desktop. By
the way, the HDD is IDE so it's typical old :)

Ps: Ali, on my new machine i have ubuntu with lubuntu-desktop installed...
> readings of both monitors are different, that's what i was telling you :)
>

If you check ALL my posts on Ubuntu Forum, you'll find out that I always
keep telling the users that installing "lubuntu-desktop" is NOT like
installing Lubuntu itself from LiveCD or LiveUSB.

*I see that Walter agrees with me* :)

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
wrote:

> I don't know if this is correct, but I'm a little concerned for if the
> machines will support the test? We're talking about Pentium 3 & 4 and 256
> to 512 ram.
>
> Ps: Ali, on my new machine i have ubuntu with lubuntu-desktop installed...
> readings of both monitors are different, that's what i was telling you :)
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help Needed

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Thanks for your reply but the OP already managed to fix it:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1872753

Thanks again :)

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:55 AM, ∅  wrote:

>  I'm feeling lazy and don't want to make another forum account, even
> though, for lxde, I probably should. That being said, the solution is quite
> simple.
>
> For a login shell, ~/.profile is the go to file. This works where the
> "login" command is being used, i.e. this even works if you open lxterminal
> and then use said command to login within the shell, thereby creating a
> shell (that is using ~/.profile) within a shell (that is not using
> ~/.profile as it does not work for interactive shells). To put the
> questions to rest, this is also what is being employed by the display
> manager to log you in and ultimately start lxde.
>
> I believe the OP wanted to add ~/bin to his $PATH, which, actually,
> ~/.profile does by default, after first checking for the existence of
> ~/bin. Of course, it could be explicitly added with
>
> PATH="$PATH:$HOME/bin"
>
> but a more elegant solution is certainly the one contained within:
>
> # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
> if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then
> PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
> fi
>
> To make clear what's happening here, if -d checks to see whether the given
> argument exists as a directory. That being said, the comment pretty clearly
> describes in words exactly what is happening.
>
> If you really want to first hand see the effectiveness of ~/.profile, try
> this:
>
> echo "ace-minesweeper" >> ~/.profile
>
> then logout and log back in again. You'll apparently be stuck in purgatory
> between lxdm and lxde with nothing but ace-minesweeper. Finish your game
> and quit and you'll be whisked off to lxde. :D
>
> I'm going to go add this to the wiki now.
>
> wxl/walter
>
>
> On 11/07/2011 10:57 AM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:
>
> Please check the OP reply: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31421
>
>  On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Andrew Woodhead <
> andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>  On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Ali Linx  wrote:
>>
>>   A user has a problem and he posted on Ubuntu Forum but got no solution
>>> so he posted on LXDE Forum seeking for help:
>>> http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31421
>>> I don't know anything about what he's asking so hope someone could help
>>> him.
>>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

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It's true that I have both Ubuntu 11.04 (which I'll get rid of soon) and
Lubuntu 11.04 installed but just to be extra clear, I'm just using Lubuntu
11.04 as I'm writing this. I have LXTask (installed by default) and I have
installed recently System Monitor too.
The figures are not the same.

If some of you think conky is not accurate then let's ignore it but still,
I'm having two different readings.

Anyway, lovinglinux, an add-on developer for Firefox and Ubuntu Forum
Moderator has suggested to use "about:memory".

The test that I'm willing to do is on another PC (P4 with 256MB RAM) and it
has fresh new Lubuntu 11.10 installed.

Thanks!

P.S.
Jean-Pierre
I don't think Dual-Booting Ubuntu and Lubuntu has anything to do with that
extra 100MB IMHO. Each on different partition and each has its own files,
etc.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
wrote:

> 2011/11/8 amjjawad HOOHAA 
>
>> Guys,
>>
>> I was wondering if someone has noticed that LXTask actually shows +100MB
>> usage more than System Monitor and Conky so what is going on?
>> I have System Monitor installed on Lubutnu 11.04 (was testing something)
>> and Conky as well. While each of System Monitor (GNOME APP) and Conky are
>> showing the same memory usage, LXTask add *100MB* to that.
>> Example: System Monitor + Conky shows 287MB while Firefox Loaded with two
>> tabs. On the other hand, LXTask shows 387MB.
>>
>> Any idea?
>>
>
> I have similar issue when lubuntu is installed alongside with ubuntu :/
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Guys,

I was wondering if someone has noticed that LXTask actually shows +100MB
usage more than System Monitor and Conky so what is going on?
I have System Monitor installed on Lubutnu 11.04 (was testing something)
and Conky as well. While each of System Monitor (GNOME APP) and Conky are
showing the same memory usage, LXTask add *100MB* to that.
Example: System Monitor + Conky shows 287MB while Firefox Loaded with two
tabs. On the other hand, LXTask shows 387MB.

Any idea?

Thanks!

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:21 AM, ∅  wrote:

> I like the idea of a script.. at least for most of it. The one bugaboo
> will be doing start up and shut down tests. Maybe we could use an
> appropriate signal? I'm not sure which one would be used to cleanly
> shutdown the program, but, for example, with SIGTERM we could do:
>
> kill -n 15 $(pidof firefox)
> kill -n 15 $(pidof chromium-browse)
>
> We need to know what systems these are being run on.
>
> Therefore:
> uname -srov
> lsb_release -a
> cat /proc/cpuinfo
> cat /proc/meminfo
>
> We need to use new/fresh profiles.
>
> So:
> firefox -CreateProfile foo && firefox -P foo  to be opened in tabs>
> chromium-browser --user-data-dir=foo  opened in tabs>
>
> One problem with this is that Chromium defaults to loading a choice of
> search engines.. so it's not technically "started up."
>
> It IS important we use as many tabs as reasonable. There tends to be a bit
> of diversion in performance between browsers depending on the number of
> tabs opened.
>
> As for getting resource usage, I'm thinking that a good solution would be
> to use proc. Rather than try to follow a moving target (e.g. lxtask),
> something more static might be useful:
> cat /proc/$(pidof firefox)
> cat /proc/$(pidof chromium-browse)
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help Needed

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Hello Andrew,

Please check the OP reply: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31421

Thank you!

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Andrew Woodhead <
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>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Ali Linx  wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> A user has a problem and he posted on Ubuntu Forum but got no solution so
>> he posted on LXDE Forum seeking for help:
>>
>> http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31421
>>
>> I don't know anything about what he's asking so hope someone could help
>> him.
>>
>> If you don't have an account on the forum, never mind, I can post your
>> answer to him. I have already asked him to join the mailing list or login
>> to IRC channel.
>>
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> at the bottom of ~/.bashrc add:
>
> export PATH=$PATH:/mynew/bin
>
> Will add /mynew/bin to the PATH variable
>
> Save the new file after editting and run:
>
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