Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-24 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hiyas gang, it was a hasty scribble up, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#10.04 has been added. Regards, Phill. On 24 October 2010 21:11, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Julien, no worries. I'll keep it on my server area (I have 1TB). I'll get > the 10.04 notes re-done in next co

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-24 Thread Phill Whiteside
Julien, no worries. I'll keep it on my server area (I have 1TB). I'll get the 10.04 notes re-done in next couple of days. Once the new server area is set up, Derrick has agreed to allow it to be a seeder for all the lubuntu releases. But like yourself, he's a bit busy atm. Regards, Phill. On 24

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-24 Thread Julien Lavergne
I'm still seeding 10.04 when transmission is open. No need to remove it for now. But I'll need to remove the .iso from http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/ (space problem, always ...) Regards, Julien Lavergne On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 19:33:46 +0100 Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hiyas Julien, > > thanks fo

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-24 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 19:33:46 +0100 Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hiyas Julien, > > thanks for the chat and I hope the UDS goes well. Is there still the torrent > feed for 10.04, or are we going to have to rely solely on the server(s) ? I > still have my copy, so can fairly quickly resurrect a 10.04 p

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-24 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hiyas Julien, thanks for the chat and I hope the UDS goes well. Is there still the torrent feed for 10.04, or are we going to have to rely solely on the server(s) ? I still have my copy, so can fairly quickly resurrect a 10.04 page up on the documentation area. Regards, Phill. On 23 October 201

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-22 Thread Julien Lavergne
Thanks Yorvyk, I added it to the release notes. Regards, Julien Lavergne On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:39:26 +0100 Yorvyk wrote: > On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 18:53:40 -0400 > Julien Lavergne wrote: > > > I wasn't aware that there are still computers using i586. Do we know what > > CPU models are affected

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-22 Thread Julien Lavergne
If it's limited to the LXDE packages + Lubuntu specific packages, backporting them to 10.04 shouldn't be a big work, since I already planned to backport up-to-date LXDE packages. Regards, Julien Lavergne On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 00:18:55 +0100 Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hiyas Julien, > > Having ha

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-22 Thread Yorvyk
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 18:53:40 -0400 Julien Lavergne wrote: > I wasn't aware that there are still computers using i586. Do we know what CPU > models are affected ? We can sill ask to re-enable the support for Natty > (very few chances to be accepted), but we need to know what hardwares are > aff

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-21 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hiyas Julien, Having had a chat, (oh and the forum went wild over the dropping of i586 support),. what I propose is that we support 10.04 as a LTS and not just a beta. The kernel will be supported for 5 years, it's down to the devs to decide if they will compile stuff for the LTS kernel. Obviousl

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-21 Thread Julien Lavergne
I wasn't aware that there are still computers using i586. Do we know what CPU models are affected ? We can sill ask to re-enable the support for Natty (very few chances to be accepted), but we need to know what hardwares are affected. Regards, Julien Lavergne On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:10:45 +0100

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-21 Thread Yorvyk
As I understand it, all of the software in the 10.10 repos is compiled for i686 and, unless otherwise stated, the software in the 10.04 repos is compiled for i386. The obvious answer, to me, is to maintain the 10.04 version for < i686 by using the Lubuntu-Desktop PPA for the LXDE parts. This w

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-21 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
> > >> Is there any chance that we keep supporting these old machines? > > Taking the kernel package and add support for i586 and put > > it in the ppa would be much more appropiate. > > > Or perhaps Canonical agrees to build special i586 enabled kernels that > > lubuntu can use. > If you ask me,

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-21 Thread Liam Proven
On 21 October 2010 11:59, Leszek Lesner wrote: > Am 21.10.2010 12:38, schrieb PCMan: >> Is there any chance that we keep supporting these old machines? >> I don't see any reason to force the use of i686. >> Only the compiler flags need to be changed. >> All programs should be able to be compiled w

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-21 Thread Fredrik Andersson
I dont know anything about packaging and all but, if there was possible to make Lubuntu compatible for i586 that would be great. And if Canonical/buntu dont support it it would be nice if we could offer that. But anyway guys this is just some toughts so dont hurt me :) On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 18:38:

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-21 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 21.10.2010 12:38, schrieb PCMan: > Is there any chance that we keep supporting these old machines? > I don't see any reason to force the use of i686. > Only the compiler flags need to be changed. > All programs should be able to be compiled with i586. > If supporting i586 is not allowed by Canon

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-21 Thread PCMan
Is there any chance that we keep supporting these old machines? I don't see any reason to force the use of i686. Only the compiler flags need to be changed. All programs should be able to be compiled with i586. If supporting i586 is not allowed by Canonical, then I personally think we need a fork.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-21 Thread Yorvyk
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:10:45 +0100 Phill Whiteside wrote: > Julien, > > as we are the last post of support for "older" computers, to with > Canonical and them dropping the support from the kernel for i586 and below > that I thought that was the 'raison d'etre' for Lubuntu. We cannot turn o

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
Julien, as we are the last post of support for "older" computers, to with Canonical and them dropping the support from the kernel for i586 and below that I thought that was the 'raison d'etre' for Lubuntu. We cannot turn our backs on these people. Just my 2 cents worth. Regards, Phill. O

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-20 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 22:07:04 - Christian Stöveken wrote: > Hey, > > I just tried installing Lubuntu 10.10 on a K6 450 notebook and ran into > the cmov missing problem. > Since this distribution is designed to run on low end machines cmov > support should be compiled into the kernel > (imho).

[Lubuntu-desktop] cmov

2010-10-20 Thread Christian Stöveken
Hey, I just tried installing Lubuntu 10.10 on a K6 450 notebook and ran into the cmov missing problem. Since this distribution is designed to run on low end machines cmov support should be compiled into the kernel (imho). I just wanted to check if you're already aware of the missing cmov support