Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu

2011-09-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
2011/9/11 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com

 I've added the PPA for LXPanel made by Julien, but still it haven't
 upgraded...


Oh i see now... LXPanel it's not there for natty :P
How can I install it under Natty? I add the PPA but instead of Natty i add
Oneiric??

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu

2011-09-11 Thread PCMan
For ALSA, a potential candidate GUI mixer is gamix.
For PulseAudio, maybe we can use pama.
Both are written in pure C language IIRC.
Please evaluate them if possible.
They are not the best ones, but at least they will be better then xterm -e
alsamixer.
Other ones I can find are written in python or some other scripting stuff.

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

  Le 08/09/2011 16:49, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit :

 I know we are pass the freeze, but maybe this shortcut could be added to
 preferences menu for 11.10. I think for a lot of people it's useful to
 control the mic and all that stuff in alsamixer. Plus, there's nothing to
 add but this little shortcut :)
 And maybe there's a way to show lxterminal without the menus???


 I'm not a fan of the solution, because it will add a non translated entry
 in the menu. It's also not really dynamic (doesn't deal with pulseaudio when
 it's running), and alsamixser is not really user-friendly (it's still a
 command line program which emulate a GUI).

 I didn't plan to fix this problem with this solution. My idea was to enable
 the Configure button when you right click on the volume applet on the
 panel. So, as it seems to be an annoying bug for people, I take some time to
 implement this. You can test the result by adding the ppa :
 ppa:lubuntu-dev/staging . The lxpanel will be available in a few minutes.

 This is the behavior :
 - If pulseaudio is detected, it will try to launch the gnome-sound
 preference if it's installed. If not, it will look at pavucontrol.
 - Else, it will try to launch gnome-alsamixer, and if it's not on the
 system, try to launch xterm -e alsamixer.

 It will offer a GUI for sound configuration, with a bit of dynamism, and
 without adding an English entry in the menu.

 Please test it (you need to reboot after installing lxpanel) and give us
 feedback about this solution.

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu

2011-09-11 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le 11/09/2011 18:28, PCMan a écrit :
 For ALSA, a potential candidate GUI mixer is gamix.
gamix was removed from Debian because it was not maintained properly.
 For PulseAudio, maybe we can use pama.
This one seems also a bit old (no commit on trunk since 2010 April).

Well, not easy to find a good solution for this type of software :(

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu

2011-09-11 Thread Stefano
Only one info, does lubuntu use alsa or pulseaudio?

Stephen Smally

On 11/09/2011 20:32, Julien Lavergne wrote:
 Le 11/09/2011 18:28, PCMan a écrit :
 For ALSA, a potential candidate GUI mixer is gamix.
 gamix was removed from Debian because it was not maintained properly.
 For PulseAudio, maybe we can use pama.
 This one seems also a bit old (no commit on trunk since 2010 April).
 
 Well, not easy to find a good solution for this type of software :(
 
 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne
 
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu

2011-09-11 Thread leszek.lesner
Am 11.09.2011 21:36 schrieb Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it: Only one info, does lubuntu use alsa or pulseaudio?It uses alsa.
Stephen Smally

On 11/09/2011 20:32, Julien Lavergne wrote:
 Le 11/09/2011 18:28, PCMan a écrit :
 For ALSA, a potential candidate GUI mixer is "gamix".
 gamix was removed from Debian because it was not maintained properly.
 For PulseAudio, maybe we can use "pama".
 This one seems also a bit old (no commit on trunk since 2010 April).
 
 Well, not easy to find a good solution for this type of software :(
 
 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne
 
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu

2011-09-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
2011/9/11 Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it

 Only one info, does lubuntu use alsa or pulseaudio?

Alsa :)

Been trying Gamix for some minutes, and at first sight is allright, but now
i can't get anything to work (go to config and you'll see).

I've added the PPA for LXPanel made by Julien, but still it haven't
upgraded...

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu

2011-09-10 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le 08/09/2011 16:49, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit :
 I know we are pass the freeze, but maybe this shortcut could be added
 to preferences menu for 11.10. I think for a lot of people it's useful
 to control the mic and all that stuff in alsamixer. Plus, there's
 nothing to add but this little shortcut :)
 And maybe there's a way to show lxterminal without the menus???

I'm not a fan of the solution, because it will add a non translated
entry in the menu. It's also not really dynamic (doesn't deal with
pulseaudio when it's running), and alsamixser is not really
user-friendly (it's still a command line program which emulate a GUI).

I didn't plan to fix this problem with this solution. My idea was to
enable the Configure button when you right click on the volume applet
on the panel. So, as it seems to be an annoying bug for people, I take
some time to implement this. You can test the result by adding the ppa :
ppa:lubuntu-dev/staging . The lxpanel will be available in a few minutes.

This is the behavior :
- If pulseaudio is detected, it will try to launch the gnome-sound
preference if it's installed. If not, it will look at pavucontrol.
- Else, it will try to launch gnome-alsamixer, and if it's not on the
system, try to launch xterm -e alsamixer.

It will offer a GUI for sound configuration, with a bit of dynamism, and
without adding an English entry in the menu.

Please test it (you need to reboot after installing lxpanel) and give us
feedback about this solution.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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[Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu

2011-09-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
I know we are pass the freeze, but maybe this shortcut could be added to
preferences menu for 11.10. I think for a lot of people it's useful to
control the mic and all that stuff in alsamixer. Plus, there's nothing to
add but this little shortcut :)
And maybe there's a way to show lxterminal without the menus???


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu

2011-09-08 Thread Tim Bernhard
I agree.  A link to sound preferences makes sense.

The only issues I see are 1) alsamixer is not very intuitive and 2) it dumps
users into a terminal which might scare the crap out of many of them. :)

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I know we are pass the freeze, but maybe this shortcut could be added to
 preferences menu for 11.10. I think for a lot of people it's useful to
 control the mic and all that stuff in alsamixer. Plus, there's nothing to
 add but this little shortcut :)
 And maybe there's a way to show lxterminal without the menus???


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu

2011-09-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
2011/9/8 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com

 I agree.  A link to sound preferences makes sense.
 The only issues I see are 1) alsamixer is not very intuitive and 2) it
 dumps users into a terminal which might scare the crap out of many of them.
 :)


Completely agree that a terminal app scares a lot of people, but in
particular this one it's more friendly than it seems. In the interest of
making it more friendly i asked for how to show lxterminal without the menus
:)
And meanwhile we have nothing to do this job, alsamixer it's the best
candidate (as it's already in Lubuntu!). Maybe if there's time, the sound
applet could be connected to it somehow... but that's another story.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu

2011-09-08 Thread Leszek Lesner
lt;ohiom...@gmail.comgt;


I agree.nbsp; A link to sound preferences makes sense.nbsp; 
The only issues I see are 1) alsamixer is not very intuitive and 2) it dumps 
users into a terminal which might scare the crap out of many of them. :)



Completely agree that a terminal app scares a lot of people, but in particular 
this one it's more friendly than it seems. In the interest of making it more 
friendly i asked for how to show lxterminal without the menus :)

And meanwhile we have nothing to do this job, alsamixer it's the best candidate 
(as it's already in Lubuntu!). Maybe if there's time, the sound applet could be 
connected to it somehow... but that's another story.


--jpxsat

I think an easy shell script writing the don't show menubar in the config for 
executing alsamixer should do the trick. Another way would be executing 
alsamixer in xterm instead of lxterminal

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu

2011-09-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
xterm gets the effect wanted!!

2011/9/8 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de

 ohiom...@gmail.com

 I agree.  A link to sound preferences makes sense.
 The only issues I see are 1) alsamixer is not very intuitive and 2) it
 dumps users into a terminal which might scare the crap out of many of them.
 :)


 Completely agree that a terminal app scares a lot of people, but in
 particular this one it's more friendly than it seems. In the interest of
 making it more friendly i asked for how to show lxterminal without the menus
 :)
 And meanwhile we have nothing to do this job, alsamixer it's the best
 candidate (as it's already in Lubuntu!). Maybe if there's time, the sound
 applet could be connected to it somehow... but that's another story.

 --
 jpxsat


 I think an easy shell script writing the don't show menubar in the config
 for executing alsamixer should do the trick. Another way would be executing
 alsamixer in xterm instead of lxterminal




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