Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation for new Iso's
Le Thursday 28 July 2011 à 21:44 +0200, Julien Lavergne a écrit : I guess only 32 and 64 bits are available for daily build, and alternate and armel (?) are produced only for releases (Alpha, Beta etc ..) Actually, it's maybe a bug in the seed. I'll add a fix, and we will see tomorrow (I love daily builds :p) if it's working. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation for new Iso's
Hi, thanks for the detailed reply. I'll remove the keyboard warning. We can only use the Ubuntu building for futur ISO, not old. We (Jonathan or me) can create a new 10.04, but it will need testing and maybe fixes. I'm not sure it's so necessary, because you can do the install with the current one, and do the updates as usual. I know it's long, but creating and testing a new ISO will also need time. I was thinking that possibly using something like remastersys http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/ubuntu.html may be possible for Jonathan to get a 'community' 10.04 update out pretty quickly rather than you both having to spend time checking and re-checking a new-build? As I write this I received your update on the alternate daily. I'll watch out for it! Regards, Phill. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le Wednesday 27 July 2011 à 23:42 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit : I *think* I have tracked down all pages referring to 'testing'. Could you please check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing for the warning about Ubiquity and key-board etc. The keyboard warning is not necessary anymore. I have left the alpha 1 there as it is available at 'CD' size iso as opposed to the usual too large daily images that we get during a build. I do think the page needs some further updating, so I ask if you could possibly find a little time to ensure it is fully up to date. Yes, but we will probably have some pages at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ Documentation will need update at this moment. There was a mention of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/Derivatives/Lubuntu that one of the guys noticed, as I was previously unaware of a 'derivatives' team, and it was well out of date I have put a divert on it to point to the current page. As I have previously said, having various pages all needing updating is madness. If their team has any complaints, please forward them to me. I did leave a comment as to why I had done it. I wasn't ware this Team was still active. I'm sure they will be ok with the divert, thanks. As we are now on 'official' build, where does this leave the earlier builds, the one that spring to mind is 10.04 - Is it easier to maintain these as not official builds using our 'old' system of building, or can the 10.04 be brought into the 'official' build system. 10.04 desperately needs re-making, there are something like 300 updates at 250Mb to download, if we are to truly to support it I would strongly suggest that as the generic ubuntu is up to 10.04.3, we do spin a new iso. I'm sure Jonathan will curse me every way, but I am sure he can spin one for Lubuntu 10.04 We can only use the Ubuntu building for futur ISO, not old. We (Jonathan or me) can create a new 10.04, but it will need testing and maybe fixes. I'm not sure it's so necessary, because you can do the install with the current one, and do the updates as usual. I know it's long, but creating and testing a new ISO will also need time. For 11.10, I note that 32bit and two 64bit variants are produced, but there is no mention of an 'alternate' install iso. Is this something that will be naturally added as Lubuntu slots into the 'official' build system, or is it something that must be done separately? I guess only 32 and 64 bits are available for daily build, and alternate and armel (?) are produced only for releases (Alpha, Beta etc ..) Regards, Julien Lavergne -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation for new Iso's
Hi Julien and Jonathan, I *think* I have tracked down all pages referring to 'testing'. Could you please check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing for the warning about Ubiquity and key-board etc. I have left the alpha 1 there as it is available at 'CD' size iso as opposed to the usual too large daily images that we get during a build. I do think the page needs some further updating, so I ask if you could possibly find a little time to ensure it is fully up to date. There was a mention of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/Derivatives/Lubuntu that one of the guys noticed, as I was previously unaware of a 'derivatives' team, and it was well out of date I have put a divert on it to point to the current page. As I have previously said, having various pages all needing updating is madness. If their team has any complaints, please forward them to me. I did leave a comment as to why I had done it. As we are now on 'official' build, where does this leave the earlier builds, the one that spring to mind is 10.04 - Is it easier to maintain these as not official builds using our 'old' system of building, or can the 10.04 be brought into the 'official' build system. 10.04 desperately needs re-making, there are something like 300 updates at 250Mb to download, if we are to truly to support it I would strongly suggest that as the generic ubuntu is up to 10.04.3, we do spin a new iso. I'm sure Jonathan will curse me every way, but I am sure he can spin one for Lubuntu 10.04 For 11.10, I note that 32bit and two 64bit variants are produced, but there is no mention of an 'alternate' install iso. Is this something that will be naturally added as Lubuntu slots into the 'official' build system, or is it something that must be done separately? Sorry for so many questions! It is times like this I feel about as useful as chocolate kettle, but I ask you both to look on the bright side... Answer me and I'll answer the others :) hoping the well deserved beer went down well!! Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [lubuntu - desktop] documentation team
Hiyas Martin, consider yourself 'kidnapped' (I do use that word jokingly, it will take a little time to get used to my and other team members warped sense of humour). There is a lot going on behind the scenes at the moment, if you would like a UBT mentor then we have couple of them hanging around. I'm sure that they will make themselves known to you. If you are more interested in wiki / admin then please give me a shout. I am fortunate in that I have a good admin team that I could also be pair you with. Most of all, thank you for offering to help the Lubuntu project. Just as Lubunbtu is small, lean, green and keen, so are the team. An extra pair of hands is always most welcome. Kindest Regards, Phillw. On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Martin Liesenberg martin.liesenb...@googlemail.com wrote: Hey Phill, my name is Martin Liesenberg a 22 year old computer science student from Berlin, Germany. I have been following the discussions on the lubuntu - desktop and lxde mailing lists witih interest for a couple of month now. Earlier today, you wrote an email regarding your efforts to revamp the documentation pages on the wiki. In that same email you mentioned that some members had to withdraw due tp various reasons. I was thinking about how to start actively contributing to lubuntu and I figured documentation might be a good place to start. As for the 'administIve' things, I have registered at launchpad and joined the luubuntudesktop and lxde mailings lists. Please let me know if there is anything I can do, best regards, martin -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation Day
Good Morning Team Lubuntu, As it's now 0030 am here in Brisbane I thought I'd kick off the Lubuntu documentation day. Details of what needs doing is available here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/DocumentationSubTeam Please if you know of anything that needs fixing email us here on the list or add it to the wiki so we can work towards making the Lubuntu documentation as clear and easy to follow as possible. If anyone has any ideas about what needs documenting that isn't already covered on the help pages this is a good chance to get it looked at. Happy hunting Regards, Jared Norris https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation Day
On 20 January 2011 03:23, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote: Good Morning Team Lubuntu, As it's now 0030 am here in Brisbane I thought I'd kick off the Lubuntu documentation day. Details of what needs doing is available here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/DocumentationSubTeam Please if you know of anything that needs fixing email us here on the list or add it to the wiki so we can work towards making the Lubuntu documentation as clear and easy to follow as possible. If anyone has any ideas about what needs documenting that isn't already covered on the help pages this is a good chance to get it looked at. Happy hunting Regards, Jared Norris https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp I'll do the kernel removal. I have avides countless users how to do it when they have low disk space issues I'lll let you know when it's done Andy aka ActionParsnip Done Please check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels Comments are fully welcomed -Andy aka ActionParsnip Andy, Looks great to me! That's about as easy as it gets because the ones you want to remove change for each person. We're starting to run out of things to fix. Come on team surely there are other things you've noticed (or noticed don't exist) that you would like us to work on. Email the list or add them to the wiki so we get make it easy for you. Regards, Jared Norris https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation Day
On 20 January 2011 11:33, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: 2011/1/19 Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com: Good Morning Team Lubuntu, As it's now 0030 am here in Brisbane I thought I'd kick off the Lubuntu documentation day. Details of what needs doing is available here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/DocumentationSubTeam Please if you know of anything that needs fixing email us here on the list or add it to the wiki so we can work towards making the Lubuntu documentation as clear and easy to follow as possible. If anyone has any ideas about what needs documenting that isn't already covered on the help pages this is a good chance to get it looked at. Happy hunting Regards, Jared Norris https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris Thanks you, I'll add some items for me for tomorrow :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Glad you like it. We get about 2 or 3 of these a day on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu so it's easy to port over. I believe somebody made a script to ask the user how many kernels to keep and remove the surplus. I'll see if I can make something similar Could be useful for all buntus :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1634760 Possible. I haven't tested this but people seem to rate it. Thoughts? (Read all the posts) Andrew, It does look good but I'm a much bigger fan of people actually seeing what they're doing so maybe add that as an option to the bottom of the page? I just get scared when people start asking others to run commands without really knowing what they're doing. Regards, Jared Norris https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation Day
Hi guys, Done and linked to the remove kernels page. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels/Problems Feel free to correct any grammatical errors, but I know the commands are correct :) Regards, Phill. On 20 January 2011 05:13, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hiyas, It *can* be done via synaptic, but I've seen a couple of complaints about the way it selects things. I can add it as an option, but as it is not 'beginner' level, I do prefer the CLI option. As ever, discussions are encouraged. I'll get the link from my forum for the 'you deleted everything' transferred into a wiki page, oddly enough it is a popular page on my little forum of notes :P Thanks guys, Phill. On 20 January 2011 01:45, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 January 2011 11:33, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: 2011/1/19 Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com: Good Morning Team Lubuntu, As it's now 0030 am here in Brisbane I thought I'd kick off the Lubuntu documentation day. Details of what needs doing is available here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/DocumentationSubTeam Please if you know of anything that needs fixing email us here on the list or add it to the wiki so we can work towards making the Lubuntu documentation as clear and easy to follow as possible. If anyone has any ideas about what needs documenting that isn't already covered on the help pages this is a good chance to get it looked at. Happy hunting Regards, Jared Norris https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris Thanks you, I'll add some items for me for tomorrow :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Glad you like it. We get about 2 or 3 of these a day on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu so it's easy to port over. I believe somebody made a script to ask the user how many kernels to keep and remove the surplus. I'll see if I can make something similar Could be useful for all buntus :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1634760 Possible. I haven't tested this but people seem to rate it. Thoughts? (Read all the posts) Andrew, It does look good but I'm a much bigger fan of people actually seeing what they're doing so maybe add that as an option to the bottom of the page? I just get scared when people start asking others to run commands without really knowing what they're doing. Regards, Jared Norris https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation Day on Thurday 20/1
On 18 January 2011 09:47, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, On Thurday, we will have the first Documentation Day for Lubuntu. The goal is to write/fix/improve any piece of documentation. I hope we will have our wiki's masters online, phillw already told me that he will be available after 20 GMT. Like the Bug Day, it's a test to see if this kind of Day is useful. I'll be around on IRC if people have technical questions, I'll also try to write some piece of documentation :) If you want to participate, please join the IRC on Thurday, or reply to this mail with what you want to do. Also, if you think some wiki pages need more attention, or if you think some particular documentation is needed, please answer to this mail :) Thanks in advance for your participation :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp I will be in and out a bit as usual. Unfortunately a lot of my spare time at the moment is organising a Ubuntu booth at the biggest Linux conference in our country so I can't be sure just when or how long I'll be around. Regards, Jared Norris https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation Day on Thurday 20/1
Hi, On Thurday, we will have the first Documentation Day for Lubuntu. The goal is to write/fix/improve any piece of documentation. I hope we will have our wiki's masters online, phillw already told me that he will be available after 20 GMT. Like the Bug Day, it's a test to see if this kind of Day is useful. I'll be around on IRC if people have technical questions, I'll also try to write some piece of documentation :) If you want to participate, please join the IRC on Thurday, or reply to this mail with what you want to do. Also, if you think some wiki pages need more attention, or if you think some particular documentation is needed, please answer to this mail :) Thanks in advance for your participation :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation Day on Thurday 20/1
2011/1/18 Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com: Hiyas Julien, following on from a brief chat with Jared, I've added a table to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/DocumentationSubTeam so that anyone can log down a page / area that needs looking at and us documentors can assign them to ourselves and mark when completed. As Jared said, it means we are not duplicating effort and can get them done as we get time. Regards, Phill. On 17 January 2011 23:47, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, On Thurday, we will have the first Documentation Day for Lubuntu. The goal is to write/fix/improve any piece of documentation. I hope we will have our wiki's masters online, phillw already told me that he will be available after 20 GMT. Like the Bug Day, it's a test to see if this kind of Day is useful. I'll be around on IRC if people have technical questions, I'll also try to write some piece of documentation :) If you want to participate, please join the IRC on Thurday, or reply to this mail with what you want to do. Also, if you think some wiki pages need more attention, or if you think some particular documentation is needed, please answer to this mail :) Thanks in advance for your participation :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp I will be available between 19 and 21 UTC -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong (UndiFineD) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation
Le mardi 07 décembre 2010 à 23:34 +, Phill Whiteside a écrit : replaced with sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-core sudo apt-get install lxdm For the micro installation? If that is correct, I'll get it posted up. Yes, that should make a very nice, minimal but usable installation :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation
Hiays Julien, am I correct in understanding that it would be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall with the line sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop replaced with sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-core sudo apt-get install lxdm For the micro installation? If that is correct, I'll get it posted up. Regards, Phill. P.S. Following on from what happened to pip_ I've added an ls -l check for the manual iso testing to ensure they do have the entire file! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#Manual%20test%20of%20iso%20and%20cd On 7 December 2010 21:36, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Why not a note in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp for Advance users ? Like a Super-Small Installation or something like this ? Regards, Julien Lavergne Le mardi 07 décembre 2010 à 05:45 +, Phill Whiteside a écrit : Hiyas Boss, Just had a question on the core install, is there a reply or set of notes for me to add this? Regards, Phill. On 18 October 2010 01:54, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi Julien, for lubuntu-core ? Again I'm assuming the command would be sudo apt-get install lxdm Once it is proof read, I'll add it to the documentation area. Regards, Phill. On 17 October 2010 22:16, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 23:47:17 +0100 Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-core I think we should add at least a quick note for installing lxdm package to this documentation. It's quite paintful not having a display manager by default :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 23:47:17 +0100 Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-core I think we should add at least a quick note for installing lxdm package to this documentation. It's quite paintful not having a display manager by default :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation
Yeah let me know when and if you do this so i can write it down @ forum aswell. building it up from scratch. 2010/10/17 Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net Hiyas gang, It's been a bit a hectic, and I've missed out a couple of pages on my frantic running around, notably adding the Maverick mini-iso link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall (now done) and the addition of the installation lubuntu-core to the minimal installation instructions. I'm assuming (always a bad thing to do), that for ubuntu core I would need to add a section that repeated the standard installation instructions but replaced sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop with sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-core Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- *Contact* * * *fred...@fredrikandersson.net* *fredrikfri...@gmail.com* * * *Messenger* * * *fritte...@msn.com* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day
Phillip Whiteside wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le mardi 20 avril 2010 à 17:12 +0100, Phillip Whiteside a écrit : Hi, There is not a section for How To's in the wiki and I am not sure where they would best fit in, I'm not sure if they should be at lubuntu.net http://lubuntu.net, or if the wiki page is the correct place for How To's / screen-casts etc. Having them all in one place is the way forward and the wiki seems the correct place if we are to proceed for adoption. I'm thinking possibly under section 4, so that how-tos' can be added, but am not about to go 'breaking' the wiki page :-) Any help to improve the wiki is welcome :) I'm not against the Howto section, I just would like to slim the main page a bit. For example, I think the Xubuntu or page on the wiki is quite nice : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu I have a mentor from the ubuntu-docs team, I'm sure he will ensure any postings are both factually correct conform to layout :-) And there is a Docs section ;) But we should also check what is done on the wiki for Ubuntu, because many tutorials could be re-use by Lubuntu. I plan to do some updates before the release, I'll try to add a Documentation section so you can add you contribution :) Release date is close, I am about to get tied up with 10.04 launch, it'd just be nice to point people over to a wiki page and not my own personal area, which was 'not so good an idea'? I'd really like to be able to (and so would others from the support people) have a set of How To's For example after the We will not support dual screens that is now there in preferences, If someone would be kind enough to fill that one in, I have a large gaping hole on mine, that was in my Things you can do that are totally unsupported Can we link wiki pages to screen casts ? Regards, Julien Lavergne Yes, I know all the above is dead boring, but we're going to have n00bs hit lubuntu they are going to need their hands holding. I'm having a chat with a couple of people regarding how to make a minimal iso with lubuntu on, but with the onset of 10.04 release they're a bit busy. Regards, Phill. Hello all, I've been away from the project for a while because of various chaotic influences in my life. I'm intent on getting re-involved. I will pay some attention to the wiki ASAP, including setting up the documentation section, as suggested. Cheers David ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day
From: Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net To: Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Cc: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 7:51:37 AM Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day Yes, I know all the above is dead boring, but we're going to have n00bs hit lubuntu they are going to need their hands holding. I'm having a chat with a couple of people regarding how to make a minimal iso with lubuntu on, but with the onset of 10.04 release they're a bit busy. Regards, Phill. Hi Phillip, Could you kindly elaborate what you meant by minimal iso with lubuntu? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day
My apologies. It seems that I have missed out some bits of the discussion as I comb through my mails from the newest to the oldest. Ignore my last mail. - Original Message From: Luther Goh Lu Feng elf...@yahoo.com To: Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net; Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Cc: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 11:45:12 PM Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day Hi Phillip, Could you kindly elaborate what you meant by minimal iso with lubuntu? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day
Hi, There is not a section for How To's in the wiki and I am not sure where they would best fit in, I'm not sure if they should be at lubuntu.net, or if the wiki page is the correct place for How To's / screen-casts etc. Having them all in one place is the way forward and the wiki seems the correct place if we are to proceed for adoption. I'm thinking possibly under section 4, so that how-tos' can be added, but am not about to go 'breaking' the wiki page :-) I'd like to add forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=82p=104#p104 to somewhere, it's very basic I know, but I'm still learning this stuff :-) If someone could check that the post (without the Regards, Phill bit at the bottom) is okay and tell me where to stick it ;-) Regards, Phill. P.S. Section 4 does need a bit of an update? I'll happily tidy it up with what we have for the current beta2 as the installed apps (The browser selection is some what wrong), but not without permission !!! On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le mercredi 14 avril 2010 à 01:04 +0100, Phillip Whiteside a écrit : So, I am getting there :-) He saved me the blushes on the other two, they being http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4t=52 and http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4t=35 What I'd like to do with all your agreement, is get whatever community documentation / links specifically for Lubuntu that we have all done listed together before the end of April. Whether it be a Beta or RC release of Lubuntu it is going to be taken up and used. The main Ubuntu forum simply cannot answer specific to Lubuntu, so we really do need to pull what we have together for a new user all together in one place. I offer an area on by baby forum, I was thinking of making a forum area for Lubuntu instead of it just being a thread within the general Ubuntu area. Setting the 'team' up as members / moderators is a very quick task, as would be setting the area up. The company I host with have no problem with 100(ish) people on there all at once (and all advert free), I'm going to ask if it may be a mirror site for the iso's, but am not sure if a) it is required b) if the boss would say okay. (I have a 'notional' cap of 2GB traffic / month for the forum), I was told that could be scaled up very easily, but just how easily to about 200GB+ / month for downloading iso's I don't know) If you'd rather all the FAQ's and support be hosted on the LXDE forum or some place else, I would simply need to transfer my stuff over there and alter my signature link on the main Ubuntu forum to point to it. Most importantly I need to let the the others on the Ubuntu forum that are advocates of Lubuntu know where to point people to. 10.04 day is bedlam to say the least and whilst wishing to keep Lubuntu quiet for a couple of weeks may be the 'comfort-zone' the stats we all cheering about on distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=1 means we are required to 'be there' or get a real negative feed back. Thanks for the proposal, but we have already lubuntu.net and wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu, I don' think we need another place for documentation. Instead, why not trying to improve the wiki page ? Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day
Le mardi 20 avril 2010 à 17:12 +0100, Phillip Whiteside a écrit : Hi, There is not a section for How To's in the wiki and I am not sure where they would best fit in, I'm not sure if they should be at lubuntu.net, or if the wiki page is the correct place for How To's / screen-casts etc. Having them all in one place is the way forward and the wiki seems the correct place if we are to proceed for adoption. I'm thinking possibly under section 4, so that how-tos' can be added, but am not about to go 'breaking' the wiki page :-) Any help to improve the wiki is welcome :) I'm not against the Howto section, I just would like to slim the main page a bit. For example, I think the Xubuntu or page on the wiki is quite nice : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu And there is a Docs section ;) But we should also check what is done on the wiki for Ubuntu, because many tutorials could be re-use by Lubuntu. I plan to do some updates before the release, I'll try to add a Documentation section so you can add you contribution :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le mardi 20 avril 2010 à 17:12 +0100, Phillip Whiteside a écrit : Hi, There is not a section for How To's in the wiki and I am not sure where they would best fit in, I'm not sure if they should be at lubuntu.net, or if the wiki page is the correct place for How To's / screen-casts etc. Having them all in one place is the way forward and the wiki seems the correct place if we are to proceed for adoption. I'm thinking possibly under section 4, so that how-tos' can be added, but am not about to go 'breaking' the wiki page :-) Any help to improve the wiki is welcome :) I'm not against the Howto section, I just would like to slim the main page a bit. For example, I think the Xubuntu or page on the wiki is quite nice : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu I have a mentor from the ubuntu-docs team, I'm sure he will ensure any postings are both factually correct conform to layout :-) And there is a Docs section ;) But we should also check what is done on the wiki for Ubuntu, because many tutorials could be re-use by Lubuntu. I plan to do some updates before the release, I'll try to add a Documentation section so you can add you contribution :) Release date is close, I am about to get tied up with 10.04 launch, it'd just be nice to point people over to a wiki page and not my own personal area, which was 'not so good an idea'? I'd really like to be able to (and so would others from the support people) have a set of How To's For example after the We will not support dual screens that is now there in preferences, If someone would be kind enough to fill that one in, I have a large gaping hole on mine, that was in my Things you can do that are totally unsupported Can we link wiki pages to screen casts ? Regards, Julien Lavergne Yes, I know all the above is dead boring, but we're going to have n00bs hit lubuntu they are going to need their hands holding. I'm having a chat with a couple of people regarding how to make a minimal iso with lubuntu on, but with the onset of 10.04 release they're a bit busy. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day
Le mercredi 14 avril 2010 à 01:04 +0100, Phillip Whiteside a écrit : So, I am getting there :-) He saved me the blushes on the other two, they being http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4t=52 and http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4t=35 What I'd like to do with all your agreement, is get whatever community documentation / links specifically for Lubuntu that we have all done listed together before the end of April. Whether it be a Beta or RC release of Lubuntu it is going to be taken up and used. The main Ubuntu forum simply cannot answer specific to Lubuntu, so we really do need to pull what we have together for a new user all together in one place. I offer an area on by baby forum, I was thinking of making a forum area for Lubuntu instead of it just being a thread within the general Ubuntu area. Setting the 'team' up as members / moderators is a very quick task, as would be setting the area up. The company I host with have no problem with 100(ish) people on there all at once (and all advert free), I'm going to ask if it may be a mirror site for the iso's, but am not sure if a) it is required b) if the boss would say okay. (I have a 'notional' cap of 2GB traffic / month for the forum), I was told that could be scaled up very easily, but just how easily to about 200GB+ / month for downloading iso's I don't know) If you'd rather all the FAQ's and support be hosted on the LXDE forum or some place else, I would simply need to transfer my stuff over there and alter my signature link on the main Ubuntu forum to point to it. Most importantly I need to let the the others on the Ubuntu forum that are advocates of Lubuntu know where to point people to. 10.04 day is bedlam to say the least and whilst wishing to keep Lubuntu quiet for a couple of weeks may be the 'comfort-zone' the stats we all cheering about on distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=1 means we are required to 'be there' or get a real negative feed back. Thanks for the proposal, but we have already lubuntu.net and wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu, I don' think we need another place for documentation. Instead, why not trying to improve the wiki page ? Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day
Hi, long email, basically would like help with documentation that is to doc standards of Canonical for when Lubuntu is accepted. I've done a little bit of documentation for Lubuntu, I know leszek has done some screen casts and others have 'how they did it' scribbled down on bits of paper / scattered brain cells. I am still very much a trainee at doing 'official documentation' to XML, but I do have people helping me both in general terms, absolute correctness in issuing commands and all the other bits required for me to actually 'make the grade' to be a full member of the docs-team for all of Ubuntu. I'm not a 'coder' that can assist in the checking of code, where I hope I may assist in is providing documentation e.g. How To's, Tutorials etc. e.g. But, while on the subject of 'clear text'; would something like this be of the required standard (It's nothing special, just me getting some practice in; I know I am to write in third person, but am trying to get some way towards the basic format in my mind. hectic forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4t=54#p73 Yes, the first post especially was written very well. There's an appropriate degree of explanatory detail (lots!), the information is all useful, and the presentation is very straightforward. Textbook, I would say :) So, I am getting there :-) He saved me the blushes on the other two, they being http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4t=52 and http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4t=35 What I'd like to do with all your agreement, is get whatever community documentation / links specifically for Lubuntu that we have all done listed together before the end of April. Whether it be a Beta or RC release of Lubuntu it is going to be taken up and used. The main Ubuntu forum simply cannot answer specific to Lubuntu, so we really do need to pull what we have together for a new user all together in one place. I offer an area on by baby forum, I was thinking of making a forum area for Lubuntu instead of it just being a thread within the general Ubuntu area. Setting the 'team' up as members / moderators is a very quick task, as would be setting the area up. The company I host with have no problem with 100(ish) people on there all at once (and all advert free), I'm going to ask if it may be a mirror site for the iso's, but am not sure if a) it is required b) if the boss would say okay. (I have a 'notional' cap of 2GB traffic / month for the forum), I was told that could be scaled up very easily, but just how easily to about 200GB+ / month for downloading iso's I don't know) If you'd rather all the FAQ's and support be hosted on the LXDE forum or some place else, I would simply need to transfer my stuff over there and alter my signature link on the main Ubuntu forum to point to it. Most importantly I need to let the the others on the Ubuntu forum that are advocates of Lubuntu know where to point people to. 10.04 day is bedlam to say the least and whilst wishing to keep Lubuntu quiet for a couple of weeks may be the 'comfort-zone' the stats we all cheering about on distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=1 means we are required to 'be there' or get a real negative feed back. My regards to you all, Phill. --- Roll on the Maverick Meerkat :-) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
