Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
> > If you just want to test it, you just need to download the branch (bzr > branch lp:lubuntu-software-center), and launch it (python > lubuntu-software-center). > Terminal output: bzr: ERROR: Invalid http response for http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~stephen-smally/lubuntu-software-center/trunk/.bzr/repository/indices/f967347238cd3d1952abaa85a72c25f6.rix: Missing the Content-Range header in a 206 range response Still thinking that a PPA is the best. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
And while you all laugh Can someone give me the idiots guide as to how to pull this into my 11.10 test area? Adding PPA's I can do, but I've lost track of what is where! Thanks, Phill. On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Stefano wrote: > python lubuntu-software-center.py ;-D > i've pushed the revision 14, i've changed the ui a little (that give > more focus on the app list, give me feedback please). all the files are > in now, ready to test. > > Regards > > Stephen Smally > > On 25/08/2011 20:37, Julien Lavergne wrote: > > Le Thursday 25 August 2011 à 12:17 -0400, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a > > écrit : > >> Could you upload your work to a PPA for start trying LSC? It would be > >> great. > > > > If you just want to test it, you just need to download the branch (bzr > > branch lp:lubuntu-software-center), and launch it (python > > lubuntu-software-center). > > > > Regards, > > Julien Lavergne > > > > > > ___ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
python lubuntu-software-center.py ;-D i've pushed the revision 14, i've changed the ui a little (that give more focus on the app list, give me feedback please). all the files are in now, ready to test. Regards Stephen Smally On 25/08/2011 20:37, Julien Lavergne wrote: > Le Thursday 25 August 2011 à 12:17 -0400, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a > écrit : >> Could you upload your work to a PPA for start trying LSC? It would be >> great. > > If you just want to test it, you just need to download the branch (bzr > branch lp:lubuntu-software-center), and launch it (python > lubuntu-software-center). > > Regards, > Julien Lavergne > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
Le Thursday 25 August 2011 à 12:17 -0400, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : > Could you upload your work to a PPA for start trying LSC? It would be > great. If you just want to test it, you just need to download the branch (bzr branch lp:lubuntu-software-center), and launch it (python lubuntu-software-center). Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
i don't really know how to set up a ppa, but if somebody know how to do or want get involve i can create an admin group for LSC. i'm having some problem with the branch now, it says that the branch are diverged, i will fix as soon as possible. On 25/08/2011 18:17, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > Stefano: > > Could you upload your work to a PPA for start trying LSC? It would be great. > > > > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
Stefano: Could you upload your work to a PPA for start trying LSC? It would be great. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
Le Thursday 25 August 2011 à 14:56 +0200, Stefano a écrit : > i've noticed that that parsing /usr/share/app-install/desktop is quite > simple, using this list in LSC is very fast. > the problem is merge two list. USC hide the non-real application > packages, but i think is best do a think like this: > in the preferences dialog (TODO) we will put a combo or a checkbutton > calling it "Expert mode", if the "Expert mode" is active all the > pacackages will be listed (by default is off), if not the list will > contains only the real applications packages (suitable for beginner). +1, sounds good. > another problem is that most of the desktop files, in > /usr/share/app-install/desktop, in the section "Categories" have more > of > one value (e.g. AudioVideo and Graphics as in the package StopMotion). > where lsc should append this packages? IMO, you should consider Categories like "tags" : 1 application can have several tags. You can't categorize all applications with only 1 Category. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
Le Thursday 25 August 2011 à 19:41 +0800, PCMan a écrit : > Parsing the result of this query > "http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=.desktop&submit=Search"; > basically give you a list of real applications. However, ubuntu website only > returned the first 100 items found. What a pity. Otherwise we can have a > good, realtime, and realiable source of this list. Is it possible to get > support from ubuntu people? A list for real applications sounds reasonable. It's exactly the content of app-install directory. It's a list of the desktop files available in all packages on Ubuntu, and it's updated regularly. It's the same data used in software-center. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
Le Thursday 25 August 2011 à 12:28 +0200, Stefano a écrit : > are > app-install and app-install-data installed by default on lubuntu? No, but because we don't use it. There is no problem to install it if it's necessary. > alternatively we can use a simple text file containing a list of the > real-applications-package. It will be a real pain to update manually. You need a way to do it automatically :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC News
Hi everybody, i've added the install/remove mechanism, work well but to test and refine. Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
i've noticed that that parsing /usr/share/app-install/desktop is quite simple, using this list in LSC is very fast. the problem is merge two list. USC hide the non-real application packages, but i think is best do a think like this: in the preferences dialog (TODO) we will put a combo or a checkbutton calling it "Expert mode", if the "Expert mode" is active all the pacackages will be listed (by default is off), if not the list will contains only the real applications packages (suitable for beginner). another problem is that most of the desktop files, in /usr/share/app-install/desktop, in the section "Categories" have more of one value (e.g. AudioVideo and Graphics as in the package StopMotion). where lsc should append this packages? Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
Parsing the result of this query " http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=.desktop&submit=Search"; basically give you a list of real applications. However, ubuntu website only returned the first 100 items found. What a pity. Otherwise we can have a good, realtime, and realiable source of this list. Is it possible to get support from ubuntu people? A list for real applications sounds reasonable. On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Stefano wrote: > On 25/08/2011 00:34, Julien Lavergne wrote: > > Le Wednesday 24 August 2011 à 23:27 +0200, Stefano a écrit : > >> new branch and new fats-search engine for the Lubuntu Software Center, > >> of course is still incomplete, hope will be ready for 12.04. > >> get the branch: bzr branch lp:lubuntu-software-center > > > > Thank you for the update. It starts to be interesting and useful :) > > > > Just some comments : > > - software-center is beginning to move to packagekit backend, instead of > > the aptdaemon one. You should probably have a look at it if you want to > > to do more complex operations with the package manager. Fortunately, the > > concepts of aptdaemon and packagekit are the same, it should not block > > your UI or the way your software-center behave. > > > > - 1 feature that IMO a software-center must have, is the ability to show > > only "real" applications, not the list of all packages. As far as I > > know, it's not implemented in packagekit yet. 1 solution, is to parse > > the directory /usr/share/app-install/desktop/, which contain all the > > applications on Ubuntu repository (each .desktop file represent 1 > > application). > > > > Also, you will need at some point a proper build system, translation > > support etc .. but it can be added later. > > > > Regards, > > Julien Lavergne > > > > yes, i had taked a look to packagekit, i will look again. > of course we need a way to know if a package is a real application, are > app-install and app-install-data installed by default on lubuntu? > alternatively we can use a simple text file containing a list of the > real-applications-package. > e.g. > #apps.list > firefox > chromium > evolution > thunderbird > ... > > Regards > Stephen Smally > > P.S. new update, indipendent search entry for available and installed > sections > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
On 25/08/2011 00:34, Julien Lavergne wrote: > Le Wednesday 24 August 2011 à 23:27 +0200, Stefano a écrit : >> new branch and new fats-search engine for the Lubuntu Software Center, >> of course is still incomplete, hope will be ready for 12.04. >> get the branch: bzr branch lp:lubuntu-software-center > > Thank you for the update. It starts to be interesting and useful :) > > Just some comments : > - software-center is beginning to move to packagekit backend, instead of > the aptdaemon one. You should probably have a look at it if you want to > to do more complex operations with the package manager. Fortunately, the > concepts of aptdaemon and packagekit are the same, it should not block > your UI or the way your software-center behave. > > - 1 feature that IMO a software-center must have, is the ability to show > only "real" applications, not the list of all packages. As far as I > know, it's not implemented in packagekit yet. 1 solution, is to parse > the directory /usr/share/app-install/desktop/, which contain all the > applications on Ubuntu repository (each .desktop file represent 1 > application). > > Also, you will need at some point a proper build system, translation > support etc .. but it can be added later. > > Regards, > Julien Lavergne > yes, i had taked a look to packagekit, i will look again. of course we need a way to know if a package is a real application, are app-install and app-install-data installed by default on lubuntu? alternatively we can use a simple text file containing a list of the real-applications-package. e.g. #apps.list firefox chromium evolution thunderbird ... Regards Stephen Smally P.S. new update, indipendent search entry for available and installed sections ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
Le Wednesday 24 August 2011 à 23:27 +0200, Stefano a écrit : > new branch and new fats-search engine for the Lubuntu Software Center, > of course is still incomplete, hope will be ready for 12.04. > get the branch: bzr branch lp:lubuntu-software-center Thank you for the update. It starts to be interesting and useful :) Just some comments : - software-center is beginning to move to packagekit backend, instead of the aptdaemon one. You should probably have a look at it if you want to to do more complex operations with the package manager. Fortunately, the concepts of aptdaemon and packagekit are the same, it should not block your UI or the way your software-center behave. - 1 feature that IMO a software-center must have, is the ability to show only "real" applications, not the list of all packages. As far as I know, it's not implemented in packagekit yet. 1 solution, is to parse the directory /usr/share/app-install/desktop/, which contain all the applications on Ubuntu repository (each .desktop file represent 1 application). Also, you will need at some point a proper build system, translation support etc .. but it can be added later. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
new branch and new fats-search engine for the Lubuntu Software Center, of course is still incomplete, hope will be ready for 12.04. get the branch: bzr branch lp:lubuntu-software-center Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc news
hi everybody, i'm doing some work on Lsc (aka lubuntu software center). i've understood that USC is too much complex, cleaning up the code and removing unuseful parts will be too much difficutl (imho). MintInstall use massively synaptic as backend via os.popen (really i don't like it). anyway, the branch is still lp:~stephen-smally/+junk/lubuntu-software-center now Lsc list the sections give in the file data/categories (the syntax is "Name||icon-name||section" e.g. "Utils||applications-utilities||utils"). choosing a section, Lsc list the apps contained in the section, selecting an app you can see some info (description). you can also see your installed apps. at the moment you can remove or install packages (coming soon). there is a stupid function that define if the package is an app or a lib, but it doesn't work fine. please give me some feedbacks Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
