Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-11 Thread Fritz Hudnut
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Peter Golis gol...@centrum.sk wrote: Old iBook with 128+512M RAM (same combination as my playbook) cannot handle big JS pages like FB. Most modern web sites eat RAM. Teoretically you can install zram on that system which will enable compression in RAM, but you

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-11 Thread Fritz Hudnut
Komu: Herminio Hernandez Jr. herminio.hernande...@gmail.com Dátum: 10.08.2015 20:00 Predmet: Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop? CC: lubuntu user list @HH: Thanks for the follow-up . . . yeah, think I mentioned here that a recent version (last 3

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-11 Thread DOS
Peter Golis wrote: Hello Fritz, So, this clarify your issue: Old iBook with 128+512M RAM (same combination as my playbook) cannot handle big JS pages like FB. Most modern web sites eat RAM. Teoretically you can install zram on that system which will enable compression in RAM, but you will

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-11 Thread Peter Golis
of your questions and issues with you.   Hope, this will help with understanding. Peter.   __ Od: Fritz Hudnut este.el@gmail.com Komu: Peter Golis gol...@centrum.sk Dátum: 11.08.2015 23:04 Predmet: Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-10 Thread Fritz Hudnut
@et al: Just to report the continuing saga of PPC . . . last night, back over in the 933 MHz iBook w/546MB RAM, running 14.04 installed from mini.iso, because when I did the install was when there was some problem with Lu 14 installer . . . from Terminal I did a dist-upgrade for 122 MB of

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-10 Thread Israel
Herminio, You are right, this is probably the easiest way on PPC, but you also need to install all the build depends manually, right. So you also need to: cd package_dir/debian leafpad control (or geany/gedit/mousepad etc...) then sudo apt-get install ALL the Build-Depends On 08/09/2015 07:24

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-10 Thread Fritz Hudnut
@HH: Thanks for the follow-up . . . yeah, think I mentioned here that a recent version (last 3 weeks) of qupzilla crashed multiple times in the same iBook . . . 14.04, so I tried it. And historically I had the same issues with midori, so haven't check it lately . . . didn't see luakit in the

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-10 Thread Herminio Hernandez Jr.
If the WebkitGTK JavaScript bug ever gets fixed in Ubuntu then you would be able to use midori, qupzilla, or even luakit. They use less resources than FF. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Fritz Hudnut este.el@gmail.com wrote: @et al: Just to report the continuing

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-10 Thread Herminio Hernandez Jr.
You are going to have the same issue. They depend WebKit and JavaScript is crashing them. It has been fixed in Debian but not yet in Ubuntu. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Fritz Hudnut este.el@gmail.com wrote: @HH: Thanks for the follow-up . . . yeah, think I

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-09 Thread Israel
On 08/09/2015 11:13 AM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: @Fritz I am was trying to explain not to use the 12.04 version of LXDE, sorry if that was unclear. To recap: You can install a PPA to have an up-to-date WM/DE

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-09 Thread Aere Greenway
On 08/09/2015 04:37 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: But, this JWM for PPC has been mentioned before, perhaps by the time you have the time to do that, might be around when all support for 12.04 is dropped . . . . It's hard to work with a 450 MHz processor these days. Fritz: I know (thanks to your

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-09 Thread Herminio Hernandez Jr.
If know how to build from source then PPAs work on PowerPC. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Israel israeld...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/09/2015 11:13 AM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: @Fritz I am was trying to explain not to use the 12.04 version of

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-09 Thread Herminio Hernandez, Jr.
When I build a .deb package from a ppa I just download the source, enter the directory and run the following, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc and off it goes! On my 1.42GHz IBook G4 it runs fine, but does take forever. I am think lower CPU it would be time consuming, but can be done. On Sun,

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-09 Thread Fritz Hudnut
@AG: Thanks for the emotional support, yes, sniff, it's a lonely world in linux PPC . . . nobody calls, nobody likes my posts . . . the devs don't respond to bug reports . . . . : - ( But, sure, 450 MHz is OK for many local tasks, it just gets totally overwhelmed in places like FB . . . .

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-09 Thread Fritz Hudnut
@HH: Funny . . . I didn't know other people have bills . . . h, total re-think on collective life in a capitalistic society. But, when you say, run the build command . . . is this a general suggestion of something to do on the computer to fill its time . . . or specific to keeping my olde PM

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-09 Thread Israel
Hi Hermino, To be honest, compiling a kernel on 450 MHZ machine is kind of daunting :) I built a kernel package on an old Compaq that took over a day to complete, that was 900MHZ with a 256MB RAM. But building a deb for a kernel on Debian is incredibly easy, but does require a very long compile

Re: upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-09 Thread Herminio Hernandez, Jr.
general suggestion On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Fritz Hudnut este.el@gmail.com wrote: @HH: Funny . . . I didn't know other people have bills . . . h, total re-think on collective life in a capitalistic society. But, when you say, run the build command . . . is this a general

upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

2015-08-09 Thread Fritz Hudnut
@Fritz I am was trying to explain not to use the 12.04 version of LXDE, sorry if that was unclear. To recap: You can install a PPA to have an up-to-date WM/DE (possibly even LXDE). So yes, you CAN stay on