Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 18.10, no touchpad settings
On 2018-10-28 17:05, Israel wrote: > On 10/28/18 10:11 AM, Aere Greenway wrote: > I did some searching, and it is extremely hard to find out > where/what the synaptics API actually is This is really unnecessary if you use synaptics command line tools like syndaemon and synclient. I've historically included the appropriate commands to get the settings I want in autostart and everything works the way I want every time. However, it should be noted that synaptics is effectively deprecated in lieu of libinput. In fact, you'll see GNOME went so far as to [discontinue support for synaptics][1]. Upstream [Debian is even generally superceding synaptics][2] (which means it affects Ubuntu). synaptics still exists but you can see [development is halted][3] while [libinput rages on][4]. You can use them both, but really, you should just switch to libinput. The libinput and xinput commands should do the trick, as covered by [Arch][5]. >> Though some people like command-line-interfaces, I hope this >> work-around isn't the permanent solution to the problem. For what it's worth, there was never an exposed interface for touchpad settings in any previous version of Lubuntu. > I am sure all LXQt denizens would welcome a fully functioning true > synaptics config tool We've included it as a [goal for 19.04][6] but I'm sure as you'll see from the linked upstream bug, it's not the easiest of issues, so it may not be possible for 19.04, but we're hoping. > The caveat is that this is Xorg specific... no idea how Wayland > will/does handle this... libinput has been built to support Wayland from the get go. So it just works. Not so with synaptics. [1]: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-to-remove-xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-on-upgrade/3938/6 [2]: https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad#libinput [3]: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-synaptics [4]: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-libinput/ [5]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput [6]: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T140 -- @wxl | polka.bike C563 CAC5 8BE1 2F22 A49D 68F6 8B57 A48B C4F2 051A -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 18.10, no touchpad settings
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 9:19 AM Bill Hopkins wrote: > I have tried Lubuntu 18.10, running as a Live Distro from a usb thumb > drive. > In both cases there is no "tap to click" function, to emulate a left mouse > button click, on the touchpad. > I also was unable to find any program in the Menu, to adjust the settings > of a touchpad. > I also tried to download a touchpad program from the software repository, > but the programs I downloaded and installed, did not show up in the Menu. > I used the following in the past: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:atareao/atareao sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install touchpad-indicator I'm not sure if that ppa is safe, or if there's a better source for that app. But, it still works in Lubuntu 18.04. You could try it in 18.10. It puts a menu item in Accessories. When you execute it, it creates a task icon near the clock, battery part of the task bar. I don't use that. I wrote a shell script (executed from .profile at login) to set synclient parms. It seems like you should be able to find the .desktop file of the app you installed. It should be in /usr/share/applications or ~/local/share/applications . (Maybe there are other common places for it). For example, the one I installed above is at /usr/share/applications/touchpad-indicator.desktop (If I browse that file, it says it executes /usr/bin/touchpad-indicator). Maybe the app you installed is present and you could create a menu item, or simply execute it from the command line? Mark -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 18.10, no touchpad settings
On 10/28/18 6:05 PM, Israel wrote: On 10/28/18 10:11 AM, Aere Greenway wrote: On 10/28/18 8:48 AM, Israel wrote: Israel: Thank you for providing a work-around for the problem. Fortunately for me, the systems with the problem are only test-systems. Hopefully, this problem will be solved before I am to the point of considering migrating my production systems to Lubuntu 19.04. Though some people like command-line-interfaces, I hope this work-around isn't the permanent solution to the problem. -- Sincerely, Aere Hi Aere, I did some searching, and it is extremely hard to find out where/what the synaptics API actually is anyhow after long searching I found https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-synaptics/tree/src/synaptics.c Which is somewhat an example of the C interface... I know you mostly do Java, but if you are motivated C++/QML is actually a nice way to program and I am sure all LXQt denizens would welcome a fully functioning true synaptics config tool... otherwise it would be pretty easy to write a program that gets values and simply send them via the system() command. I am also sending this to the list in case anyone around is really interested in making something, and to have it in the mail archives if anyone ever is looking for it again :D The caveat is that this is Xorg specific... no idea how Wayland will/does handle this... though my experience with Wayland so far has been a bit underwhelming. Though... it may replace X eventually kinda like systemd did with the old init system. Israel: Thanks for the suggestion. It is possible, but I don't know if I will have the time to make the venture. It could happen. -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 18.10, no touchpad settings
On 10/28/18 10:11 AM, Aere Greenway wrote: > On 10/28/18 8:48 AM, Israel wrote: >> > > Israel: > > > Thank you for providing a work-around for the problem. > > > Fortunately for me, the systems with the problem are only test-systems. > > > Hopefully, this problem will be solved before I am to the point of > considering migrating my production systems to Lubuntu 19.04. > > > Though some people like command-line-interfaces, I hope this > work-around isn't the permanent solution to the problem. > > -- > Sincerely, > Aere Hi Aere, I did some searching, and it is extremely hard to find out where/what the synaptics API actually is anyhow after long searching I found https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-synaptics/tree/src/synaptics.c Which is somewhat an example of the C interface... I know you mostly do Java, but if you are motivated C++/QML is actually a nice way to program and I am sure all LXQt denizens would welcome a fully functioning true synaptics config tool... otherwise it would be pretty easy to write a program that gets values and simply send them via the system() command. I am also sending this to the list in case anyone around is really interested in making something, and to have it in the mail archives if anyone ever is looking for it again :D The caveat is that this is Xorg specific... no idea how Wayland will/does handle this... though my experience with Wayland so far has been a bit underwhelming. Though... it may replace X eventually kinda like systemd did with the old init system. -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 18.10, no touchpad settings
On 10/28/18 8:48 AM, Israel wrote: On 10/27/18 11:23 AM, Aere Greenway wrote: On 10/27/18 10:19 AM, Bill Hopkins wrote: I have tried Lubuntu 18.10, running as a Live Distro from a usb thumb drive. In both cases there is no "tap to click" function, to emulate a left mouse button click, on the touchpad. I also was unable to find any program in the Menu, to adjust the settings of a touchpad. I also tried to download a touchpad program from the software repository, but the programs I downloaded and installed, did not show up in the Menu. Does anyone have solution to this issue. There is no touchpad issue with the Lubuntu 18.04, that I am using. In my testing, I noticed the same thing. -- Sincerely, Aere You can change touchpad settings manually from the terminal. I personally have a FLTK based application that I use to fine-tune synaptic touchpad settings. open a terminal and type synclient This will list all your current settings if your touchpad is supported by the synaptic drivers. Then simply run synclient again when you find the setting you want with the name and value probably you want something like: synclient TapButton1=1 But, you can try each setting that you want to explore and it will instantly change your settings. You probably need to save these to a script to automatically be run each time you start your session. -- Regards Israel: Thank you for providing a work-around for the problem. Fortunately for me, the systems with the problem are only test-systems. Hopefully, this problem will be solved before I am to the point of considering migrating my production systems to Lubuntu 19.04. Though some people like command-line-interfaces, I hope this work-around isn't the permanent solution to the problem. -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 18.10, no touchpad settings
On 10/27/18 11:23 AM, Aere Greenway wrote: > On 10/27/18 10:19 AM, Bill Hopkins wrote: >> I have tried Lubuntu 18.10, running as a Live Distro from a usb thumb >> drive. >> In both cases there is no "tap to click" function, to emulate a left >> mouse button click, on the touchpad. >> I also was unable to find any program in the Menu, to adjust the >> settings of a touchpad. >> I also tried to download a touchpad program from the software >> repository, but the programs I downloaded and installed, did not show >> up in the Menu. >> >> Does anyone have solution to this issue. >> >> There is no touchpad issue with the Lubuntu 18.04, that I am using. >> > In my testing, I noticed the same thing. > > -- > Sincerely, > Aere > You can change touchpad settings manually from the terminal. I personally have a FLTK based application that I use to fine-tune synaptic touchpad settings. open a terminal and type synclient This will list all your current settings if your touchpad is supported by the synaptic drivers. Then simply run synclient again when you find the setting you want with the name and value probably you want something like: synclient TapButton1=1 But, you can try each setting that you want to explore and it will instantly change your settings. You probably need to save these to a script to automatically be run each time you start your session. -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 18.10, no touchpad settings
On 10/27/18 10:19 AM, Bill Hopkins wrote: I have tried Lubuntu 18.10, running as a Live Distro from a usb thumb drive. In both cases there is no "tap to click" function, to emulate a left mouse button click, on the touchpad. I also was unable to find any program in the Menu, to adjust the settings of a touchpad. I also tried to download a touchpad program from the software repository, but the programs I downloaded and installed, did not show up in the Menu. Does anyone have solution to this issue. There is no touchpad issue with the Lubuntu 18.04, that I am using. In my testing, I noticed the same thing. -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
