[LUTE] Re: Ophee

2005-08-28 Thread Alain Veylit
James, Everyone in this debate should read Matanya's blog entry for the day, it makes things clear and it is very well structured. First he explains the premisses - to have a bit of fun on the lute list , then he describes the execution - show the superiority of his wit and talent and guitarist

[LUTE] Re: Ophee

2005-08-28 Thread JEdwardsMusic
In a message dated 8/28/2005 8:47:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As to his style: it is a small collection of journalistic cliches rehashed ad nauseam. Probably; but I've been reading this list for the last three years or so, and I don't recall your contributions to en

[LUTE] FDM-83 fingering question

2005-08-28 Thread David Cassetti
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[LUTE] Double-strung courses

2005-08-28 Thread Stephen Fryer
I have a question about the lute (!) that I have never heard a good answer to. Why did each course consist of a pair of strings, rather than a single string? This was the case with other instruments such as guitar, vihuela, mandlin, etc. also from the earliest up until the baroque, so surely

[LUTE] Re: Ophee

2005-08-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
> I, for one, would defend Matanya's right to have his say on this forum. I > have known Ophee and Ness personally for many years and consider them both > generous and knowledgeable men. > > Some of you may not like Matanya's style. So what? Some (if not most) of us detest Matanya's substance. As t

[LUTE] Coughphee was Ophee

2005-08-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
Back in April my group and I played in a small 60 seat theater. The janitor decided to do some housework behind a very thin partition during the opening number which was ME ALONE in a passacaglia. There is no business like showbusiness, it took him more than a minute to realize that ha was doing so

[LUTE] Re: More Gianconcelli & Chilesotti

2005-08-28 Thread Arthur Ness
Dear Thomas, Yes, thanks for further confirmation that the Codice Lauten-Buch survives. So there is a possibility that we will see it some day. I think there has been some attempt to get the owner to permit a facsimile. I mentioned earlier gthat Paul O'Dette mentions its survival in his CD, s

[LUTE] Re: Lute fingering in Fuhrmann's Ballet

2005-08-28 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear Stewart, I'm in total agreement here. There are two further points: I like to use the 3rd finger rather than the 4th for notes on the 4th, 5th and 6th courses, because the strings are thicker and easier to hold with a thicker finger, also because the 4th finger is so often needed on hig

[LUTE] Re: More Gianconcelli & Chilesotti

2005-08-28 Thread Howard Posner
> As far as I can judge the story of the Chilesotti Codice which survived > and about the lutenist giving a house concert from it is true - I met > the lutenist in question and he confirmed the story. Who was it? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wb

[LUTE] Re: More Gianconcelli & Chilesotti

2005-08-28 Thread Thomas Schall
As far as I can judge the story of the Chilesotti Codice which survived and about the lutenist giving a house concert from it is true - I met the lutenist in question and he confirmed the story. It seems the manuscript is preserved in a bank tresor (I've been told there would be many treasures in

[LUTE] Re: Ophee

2005-08-28 Thread JEdwardsMusic
In a message dated 8/28/2005 8:53:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The fact is that content-based restrictions are inherent in this list, and the only question is where the lines are to be drawn. The fact is that content-based restrictions are inherent in this list, and th

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Philippo Martino and the Salzburger Lautencodex

2005-08-28 Thread Dale Young
- Original Message - From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Richard Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cc: "Ralf Bachmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 9:04 AM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Philippo Martino and the Salzburger Lautencodex >> >> This is lovely music

[LUTE] Re: Ophee

2005-08-28 Thread bruno
I for one, delete everything that comes from Matanya or talks about MatanyaI have been on this list for many years, do not contribute much, but cannot be bothered with Matanya's prejudiced and biased comments. He has however the right to his opinions. As far as I know, he has never used fo

[LUTE] Re: Ophee

2005-08-28 Thread PeterD26
I, for one, would defend Matanya's right to have his say on this forum. I have known Ophee and Ness personally for many years and consider them both generous and knowledgeable men. Some of you may not like Matanya's style. So what? This is supposedly an open forum for the free exchange of ideas

[LUTE] Re: theorbo plucking fingers

2005-08-28 Thread chriswilke
David, Yes, I've found that de Visee's RH fingering makes good sense most of the time, it is quite difficult for me from both my modern guitar background and my experience playing thumb-under lute. I am actually amazed at the quality and sophistication of this music given that the right han

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Philippo Martino and the Salzburger Lautencodex

2005-08-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
> > This is lovely music. Thanks for making the MIDI files available. Are > the treble and bass parts that I heard in the MIDI files > reconstructions, or are they available in the Augsburg 1732 print? > There's a lot of very nice counterpoint and I find his non-overuse of > sequence really re

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Philippo Martino and the Salzburger Lautencodex

2005-08-28 Thread Richard Stone
Dear Ralf, This is lovely music. Thanks for making the MIDI files available. Are the treble and bass parts that I heard in the MIDI files reconstructions, or are they available in the Augsburg 1732 print? There's a lot of very nice counterpoint and I find his non-overuse of sequence really ref

[LUTE] Re: Ophee

2005-08-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
It is ostracism rather. Not a pleasant thing, no one enjoys it. Necessary however. MO is still free to express himself, which he does immediately and vocipherously on his blog. I am almost flattered by the attention he gives yours truly there. I couldn't imagine I'd inspire such envy, but MO is now

[LUTE] Re: theorbo plucking fingers

2005-08-28 Thread Thomas Schall
Dear David, an interesting topic. I have learned that the a-finger should be omited whenever possible (especially when playing thumb-inside) and to use it just for arpeggios. This makes most sense if you "glue" the pinky on the soundboard because it's much easier to obtain a stable position of

[LUTE] theorbo plucking fingers

2005-08-28 Thread LGS-Europe
I am religiously trying to follow De Visée's right hand fingering of his theorbo pieces (Saizenay MS): no third finger! I find it not easy to leave my well-trained guitar-a out of it, but it does improve my sound (changing to no nails and gut strings also helped ;-). Anyone else has the same or con

[LUTE] Re: Ophee

2005-08-28 Thread Alain Veylit
How do people deal with disruptions during a concert? The lute requires a lot of concentration from the audience because the sound is fairly thin, and a bad case of spaghetti fingers can really ruin the performance, and even a heavy cougher who refuses to leave the room can cause a fatal loss o

[LUTE] Re: Ophee

2005-08-28 Thread Mathias Rösel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Okay, I get it; everyone(?) hates Mr. MO. It's still censorship. well, I for one do not hate him. IMHO it is a stupid thing to engage in flame wars and develop resentment for someone you possibly haven't even met personally. There are those whose language sometimes