[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread gary digman
Better clear it with the Dept. of HIPland Security first. You don't want to be rendered to GUITmo without the benefit habeous corpus lautorum. Gary - Original Message - From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent:

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
- Original Message - From: gary digman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, November 24, 2006 4:51 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: Sting! Wasn't the illustrious Paul O'Dette a rock guitarist before taking up the lute? ..as well as McFarlane. Eugene To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Bernd Haegemann
and Bailes :-) - Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 2:40 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Sting! And Barto. RT - Original Message - From: EUGENE BRAIG IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lutelist

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Bruno Fournier
and Pat O'Brien I think, but all of these people waited till they knew how to play the instrument before they put out CD's On 11/24/06, Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and Bailes :-) - Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lutelist

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Roman Turovsky
Not everybody knew how to play before venturing forth with a CD. Should we start naming names? RT ps. Pat's background is in jazz. - Original Message - From: Bruno Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Roman Turovsky [EMAIL

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
..And the state of knowing how to play isn't necessarily a simple yes or no. It's a continuum, and any musician worth anything continues learning as his/her career progresses. So, should we only buy the one most technically perfect lute performance currently committed to CD as the only one

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Narada
Mmmm, Without digging my Focus CD's out...Elspeth of Nottingham is a track on which the lute appears and Jan Akkerman ( The ex-Focus guitarist of that period ) released two solo albums that are in the main lute music, these are Tabernacle Arunjuez, around 1972, 73 I think both excellent albums.

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Roman Turovsky
As for Stings albumerrr how's about pretentious! I saw Sting on British TV launching it, Sting played a baroque lute, the other guy played a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archlute RT renaissance lute, sting said that he was the student and the other guy the master, if so why did sting

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Narada
So that's what it wasI'll give learning that a miss :-) He's still a poser though, even more so if that's what sting was brandishing. Ironically the album got to number 1 in the classical music charts over here. The Early Music Shop in Bradford where I bought my lute from told me that they

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
- Original Message - From: Narada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, November 24, 2006 10:05 am Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Sting! Mmmm, Without digging my Focus CD's out...Elspeth of Nottingham is a track on which the lute appears... My exact reference. To get on or off this list see

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Roman Turovsky
'Tis never too late to learn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lute RT From: Narada [EMAIL PROTECTED] So that's what it wasI'll give learning that a miss :-) He's still a poser though, even more so if that's what sting was brandishing. Ironically the album got to number 1 in the classical

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Narada
Very true. But I think I'd need to re-mortgage the house to buy one of those! -Original Message- From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 November 2006 15:43 To: Narada; 'EUGENE BRAIG IV'; 'lutelist' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Sting! 'Tis never too late to learn:

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Narada
Elspeth of Nottingham is on the album Focus III -Original Message- From: EUGENE BRAIG IV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 November 2006 15:37 To: Narada Cc: 'lutelist' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Sting! - Original Message - From: Narada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, November 24,

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2006-11-24 Thread bill kilpatrick
just out of curiosity, does any negative, contemporary criticism exist for the way dowland performed? did anyone record the comments of others or personally put pen to paper, accusing him of arrogance or being a poseur - piqued commentary borne of envy, perhaps? - bill Send instant messages to

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Narada
being a poseur - piqued commentary borne of envy, perhaps? If I understand the inference, then not in my case, I have Labyrinth which I bought out of curiosity; I think it's pretentious because Sting reads some of Dowlands letters. I'm no great Police Fan and no great lover of Stings solo work

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Roman Turovsky
being a poseur - piqued commentary borne of envy, perhaps? If I understand the inference, then not in my case, I have Labyrinth which I bought out of curiosity; I think it's pretentious because Sting reads some of Dowlands letters. I'm no great Police Fan and no great lover of Stings solo

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Narada
Oh that is wonderful :-) Thanks for thatSee I told you all he was good!! Neil. -Original Message- From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 November 2006 17:39 To: 'bill kilpatrick'; 'lute list'; Narada Subject: [LUTE] Re: Sting! being a poseur - piqued commentary

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread David Rastall
On Nov 24, 2006, at 12:06 PM, bill kilpatrick wrote: just out of curiosity, does any negative, contemporary criticism exist for the way dowland performed? did anyone record the comments of others or personally put pen to paper, accusing him of arrogance or being a poseur - piqued commentary

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Roman Turovsky
Meets with scanty excitement here, I must say... RT Oh that is wonderful :-) Thanks for thatSee I told you all he was good!! Neil. -Original Message- From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 November 2006 17:39 To: 'bill kilpatrick'; 'lute list'; Narada

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Narada
OK, Point me at someone you class as 'good' I'm curious in a 'like to know' way. -Original Message- From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 November 2006 18:12 To: Narada; 'bill kilpatrick'; 'lute list' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Sting! Meets with scanty excitement here, I

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://polyhymnion.org/barto For one. RT OK, Point me at someone you class as 'good' I'm curious in a 'like to know' way. -Original Message- From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 November 2006 18:12 To: Narada; 'bill kilpatrick'; 'lute list' Subject: [LUTE]

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread David Rastall
On Nov 24, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: ...there is always threat in originality, especially the morose kind. RT That's a profound statement. So is it Sting's moroseness, rather than his commercial success, that makes him such a perceived danger to the house of cards? (just

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Roman Turovsky
I was referring to Dowland's moroseness. As to originality- S/EK project has enough of it to merit considerable attention. RT - Original Message - From: David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute list

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread David Rastall
On Nov 24, 2006, at 2:52 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: I was referring to Dowland's moroseness. Ah... As to originality- S/EK project has enough of it to merit considerable attention. For the second time around apparently. Here's a stray thought: I'd like to hear Diana Krall's take on

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread David Rastall
On Nov 24, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Oh, Roman, Roman---!! Diana Krall is a great jazz singer (lives in NYC, married to Elvis Costello), with a delivery that would rock with Flow My Tears (aka Cry Me A River?)! Here's a stray thought: I'd like to hear Diana Krall's take on

[LUTE] Re: Losy! :-)

2006-11-24 Thread Thomas Schall
Hi Bernd, Do you have the Vogel-Edition? He only lists the sources in general not which is taken from which source. Possibly it's berlin 40068, 40620, 40627 which are now in krakow? Best wishes Thomas -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Bernd Haegemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet:

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I had already decided to skip this subject, but then on Thu, 23 Nov 2006, Roman wrote: And as far as the specific performance is concerned: there are opinions out there according to which EK/S's IN DARKNESS is likely to be the best Dowland performance ever, full of

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Bruno Fournier
I definitely would prefer to hear Diana Krall, she has a wonderful voice, and a jazzed up Dowland, would be at least more original than an out of tune Sting take on it... regards Bruno On 11/24/06, David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 24, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Oh,

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Roman Turovsky
Why don't you approach her with such a proposal? Include a demo of your own lute playing. Let us know the outcome. RT I definitely would prefer to hear Diana Krall, she has a wonderful voice, and a jazzed up Dowland, would be at least more original than an out of tune Sting take on it...

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Roman Turovsky
And as far as the specific performance is concerned: there are opinions out there according to which EK/S's IN DARKNESS is likely to be the best Dowland performance ever, full of characted, archtectural, dramatic, gutsy in actually doing jarring sound when the text calls for it, and

[LUTE] Re: Losy! :-)

2006-11-24 Thread Roland Hogman
Kalmar L=E4ns museum 21.072 (Sweden) Best wishes Roland Hogman 2006-11-24 kl. 16.12 skrev Bernd Haegemann: Ave! Could you please name me a source for a Suite/Partita in B major by Mr. Losy/Logy? You mean B-flat major I suppose-- thank you! Bernd To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread David Rastall
On Nov 24, 2006, at 5:33 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Why don't you approach her with such a proposal? Include a demo of your own lute playing. Ho, ho, ho! Actually considering that she usually employs a guitarist as part of her ensemble, a plucked instrument would not be all that

[LUTE] looks like phishing; Private Teacher Needed

2006-11-24 Thread Ed Durbrow
I naively replied to the enquiry looking for a private teacher that appeared on the lutenet yesterday. Since I have taught lute a little using the web, I thought it might be an opportunity to pick up another student. Glancing over the 56 names in the address field, my eye caught many

[LUTE] Re: Sting! (really Jan Akkerman playing Holborne)

2006-11-24 Thread Steve Bryson
Yes, that's _the_ galliard by Anthony Holborne that started my interest in the lute, back in 1974 when Akkerman's Tabernakel album first came out and I was a big fan of Focus (with Akkerman as lead guitarist). It's always been part of my repertoire, even in those years when my lute is