That would be yummy! I would love to have that edition.
ed
At 01:56 PM 12/9/2007 -0800, Stephen Arndt wrote:
Dear Lutelist,
I searched the archives this morning and saw that on 11/19/04 Stewart
McCoy had written that Matthew Spring, who was editing the Balcarres Ms.
was expecting the proofs
Hey this reminds me that I heard a similar story a few years ago about Lord
Herbert of Cherbury's lute book being published soon. Anyone know the story on
that?
Sterling
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On Monday 10 December 2007 00:50, sterling price rattled on the keyboard:
Hey this reminds me that I heard a similar story a few years ago about Lord
Herbert of Cherbury's lute book being published soon. Anyone know the story
on that? Sterling
and I've an email from minkoff about saizenay:
As
As I said, I wished to point out that the picture on pitch was far from
simplistic even within one region. However I really don't think I should need,
or indeed bother, to duplicate the journals and other published work on pitch -
do you?
MH
howard posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
aroslaw
I don't think we are in complete disagreement, perhaps not in
disagreement at all, although our individual taste for a type of
music might be slightly different. I can't answer all the points you
make, although I would like to.
I did make a distinction between
From: Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I did make a distinction between performer/composers, who compose ON the
instrument (seeking out its potential); for these, i feel, authenticity in
stringing is particularly important);
Is that a gut feeling of yours?
Having spent the last 20 years on
Jaroslav
Sorry for clipping your name, in my last message, just a few other
words.
But most of us know
what the real piano is, so we either love it or hate it. The
problem with
the lute is that we are not quite sure what it really was in past.
Then we
are left with two possibilities: 1/
Roman
Why should you? That was not my point at all. If you are composing
on any instrument, you are probably experimenting with the sounds you
can obtain with that instrument, as it is at the present moment.
You might want to search for a different tonal presentation and
change your
Thank you David, in my last message to Roman, I was quoting from
memory, what you had quoted to me from memory from Toyohiko Satoh. My
memory being not quite what it was,
I am pleased that the gist seems to be about right.
Regards
Anthony
Le 9 déc. 07 à 16:06, LGS-Europe a écrit :
On Sunday, December 09, 2007 3:06 PM LGS-Europe[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..
Nails/no nails have a similar effect on compositions; guitar players may
notice differences between Giuliani and Sor resulting from their use/no
use of nails. (Hmm, authentic Lobos on gut. ;-) )
It'll take one good
Any ideas for pieces with baroque lute (13-course) and treble recorder?
Most of the chamber music repertoire seems to be for flute/violin +
Cello + lute.
Nigel
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WHy not ask this on the Baroque List???
RT
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Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:48 AM
Subject: [LUTE] baroque lute + recorder
Any ideas for pieces with baroque lute (13-course) and treble recorder?
When I met Toyohiko in 1982, he was using nylon trebles that he
twisted (with a small manual drill) to increase their density and
make them more like gut. I tried it for a while; more trouble than
it was worth.
On Dec 9, 2007, at 7:06 AM, LGS-Europe wrote:
I once asked Toyohiko Satoh
From: Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why should you? That was not my point at all. If you are composing
on any instrument, you are probably experimenting with the sounds you
can obtain with that instrument, as it is at the present moment.
Certainly not.
You might want to search for a different
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Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:19 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Swanneck + loaded strings
Perhaps OT on the lute-list either way, but I mentioned Sor and Giuliani,
not baroque guitar music.
OK, you can
They are usually written as arabic numbers: 7, 8, 9 often with x for
10, ii for 11 etc.
V for 11, that is?
--
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Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:07 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Swanneck + loaded strings
When I met Toyohiko in 1982, he was using nylon trebles that he
twisted (with a small manual drill) to
On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Edward Martin wrote:
I certainly can use a gut treble,
but I must lower the pitch of the treble.
Hi Ed,
I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. On a Baroque lute in 415:
do you mean simply lessening the string tension by loosening the
string to lower the
Martyn Hodgson wrote:
In some usages Rome pitch was considerably higher than current A440
I wrote:
This is tantalizing (assuming you're talking about 17th-century
Rome). Where in Rome was pitch high? And who documented it?
On Dec 9, 2007, at 12:12 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
As I said, I
Anthony,
No, no, obviously this is not a disagreement. I never said I like
plastic or that it doesn't matter what strings we use. It's just that I have
a little bit an adventurous spirit and I take nothing for granted. I have to
be convinced by experience. So in this case the only thing I
At 12:17 PM 12/9/2007 -0500, David Rastall wrote:
On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Edward Martin wrote:
I certainly can use a gut treble,
but I must lower the pitch of the treble.
Hi Ed,
I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. On a Baroque lute in 415: do
you mean simply lessening the string
Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
What pitch do people tune their baroque lutes to? Baroque lutes tend to
be anywhere between 68-75 cm, which is a wide range. Does everyone use
a' 415 or higher or lower?
Depends on purpose.
I use the swanneck for continuo, also, so I have it at a' =
Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Any ideas for pieces with baroque lute (13-course) and treble recorder?
I seem to remember there is a concerto for lute and flauto dolce by
Baron.
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Mathias
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Although I am in the minority on pitch, I feel that the so called
pitch of the organ is not relevant, as they used
a transposing system through the 17th century and in to Bach's time.
The idea that the actual key on the keyboard is A is the same as
saying that the top string on the lute
is G (or
Yes, there is a concerto for lute recorder in d minor. It is a fun piece!
ed
At 06:53 PM 12/9/2007 +, Mathias Rösel wrote:
Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Any ideas for pieces with baroque lute (13-course) and treble recorder?
I seem to remember there is a concerto for
On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Edward Martin wrote:
Yes, there is a concerto for lute recorder in d minor. It is a
fun piece!
And another by Baron in G, no?
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Yes, interesting Duetto too, but it is for Traverso and out of the
recorder scale.
Duetto =E0 Liuto e Traverso (Biblioth=E8que Royale - Bruxelles)
Best wishes,
JL
El 09/12/2007, a las 20:47, howard posner escribio:
On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Edward Martin wrote:
Yes, there is a
Yes, 2 more by Baron in G major, but they are for lute flute, not lute
flauto dolce (recorder).
ed
At 11:47 AM 12/9/2007 -0800, howard posner wrote:
On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Edward Martin wrote:
Yes, there is a concerto for lute recorder in d minor. It is a
fun piece!
And
On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Jose Luis Rojo wrote:
Yes, interesting Duetto too, but it is for Traverso and out of the
recorder scale.
But perhaps playable on a voice flute or tenor recorder?
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The lowest note in this work is D5 and the highest is C7.
JL
El 09/12/2007, a las 21:05, howard posner escribio:
On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Jose Luis Rojo wrote:
Yes, interesting Duetto too, but it is for Traverso and out of the
recorder scale.
But perhaps playable on a voice flute or
Le 9 déc. 07 à 17:19, LGS-Europe a écrit :
I wrote:
Back to lute music: Anthony stated that he feels closer to a gut
player/composer who wrote his music on his gut-strung lute, if I
may be so free as to summarize his undoubtedly lengthy arguments so
boldy. I sympathise with that
Jaroslaw
Le 9 déc. 07 à 19:08, Jarosław Lipski a écrit :
Anthony,
No, no, obviously this is not a disagreement. I never said I like
plastic or that it doesn't matter what strings we use. It's just
that I have
a little bit an adventurous spirit and I take nothing for granted.
While I am not trying to set the optimum pitch of any particular
lute, I think some of your postings are a little too pessimistic
about what can be achieved in gut. I've been using treble strings
bought from Sofracob and I find that:-
1. A 10 course lute in renaissance tuning with string
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