[LUTE] Re: le Tocsein de Gautier

2008-12-27 Thread damian dlugolecki
You are quite right David. I just looked up 'tocsin' in my OED where the earliest usage in English is in 1598. I just assumed it was an earlier spelling of 'toxin' which led me to my incorrect interpretation. Never encountered the word 'tocsin' with that meaning. The OED reads, "an alarm

[LUTE] Re: le Tocsein de Gautier

2008-12-27 Thread howard posner
On Dec 27, 2008, at 5:14 PM, David Rastall wrote: > but doesn't the English word > "tocsin" refer to the pealing of a bell? Yes, but with the sense of "alarm." You'd sound a tocsin in case of attack or fire, not for celebration. That's in English, of course. -- To get on or off this list see l

[LUTE] Re: le Tocsein de Gautier

2008-12-27 Thread David Rastall
I might have missed something here, getting into the discussion late (I rejoined today---hellew everyone), but doesn't the English word "tocsin" refer to the pealing of a bell? I always thought "tocsin" came from an old form of French. Could some form of the word have existed in French in the 17t

[LUTE] Re: le Tocsein de Gautier

2008-12-27 Thread damian dlugolecki
G. Crona was kind enough to send a .jpg of the piece. At the moment this is only a guess, but I believe the 'tocsin' of Mouton and that of D. Gautier have something to do with disease. The word 'toxin' only come into the English language during the 19th century. My OED defines it originally

[LUTE] Re: Lute cartoons

2008-12-27 Thread Daniel Winheld
Does a lute humorist begin his routine with a double or single entendre? I'm very glad to see that they wisely forbid discussions of pitch down at the lute player's bar. (Hope it's open for business on New Year's Eve!) >Thanks David, what a good laugh! Masterly 'double entendre' :) More! >G.

[LUTE] Lute cartoons

2008-12-27 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear David, Thank you very much for sharing your cartoons with us. They are great fun. Many I have seen already in Clifford's Early Music Review, but others are new to me. The Jehovah's Lutenists cartoon is one of my all-time favourites. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. -Original Message- Fr

[LUTE] Lute cartoons

2008-12-27 Thread David Hill
This is just to inform all Lute listers that, due to popular demand, I have now scanned in reasonable quality versions of many of my Lute cartoons that were originally drawn for Clifford Bartlett's Early Music Review, and posted them on this page of our day-job website: www.romanglassmakers.co

[LUTE] Re: le Tocsein de Gautier

2008-12-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
"Andreas Schlegel" schrieb: > Of course! > Livre de Tablature p.86-87 > Goëss Théorbe 170-171 Are there general rules of performance for a French gigue in even metre like this one? I heard recordings of gigues by Froberger for the harpsichord (can't remember the performer) which were played extre