[LUTE] Re: A Tale of Three Vespers

2009-10-21 Thread David van Ooijen
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:50 AM, David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I found it really interesting to view three versions of the same Nigra Sum from the 1610 Vespers. I deliberately did not look at any If I had to do it over again I would borrow mucho! (with permission, of course)

[LUTE] Re: Lessons/booking

2009-10-21 Thread Ed Durbrow
If all us lutenetters gave him lessons at once, maybe his head would explode. The remnants could be used for phish bait. :-) On Oct 19, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Benjamin Morgan wrote: My name is Benjamin Morgan. I am writing this on behalf of my friends. We would be in the country for a

[LUTE] Re: A Tale of Three Vespers

2009-10-21 Thread chriswilke
David, Thanks for this. Very interesting. You've certainly borrowed a lot from that last guy. But keep practicing: you'll eventually get the hang of playing properly left-handed ;-). I'm curious about the cello, though. My understanding of the present consensus of scholarly

[LUTE] Re: A Tale of Three Vespers

2009-10-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Yes: the practice for most of the 17th century was indeed generally to eschew a bowed bass both in such secular works (including operas eg Orfeo) and in sacred music. The bowed mass only became ubiquitous towards the end of the 17th century. As you say, an organ (chamber type)

[LUTE] Re: A Tale of Three Vespers

2009-10-21 Thread Edward Martin
We all recognize David and David in the first and third videos, but who is the theorbist in the 2nd one? As it is a British production, could it be Elizabeth Kinney? All are very well done! ed At 10:50 PM 10/20/2009, David Tayler wrote: I found it really interesting to view three versions of

[LUTE] Not that I should want to cry

2009-10-21 Thread Antonio Corona
Dear friends, I am in dire need of two articles by David pinto that appeared in the Lute Society Journal: Dowland's Tears: aspects of Lachrimae (LSJ 37, 1997), and Dowland's True Tears (LSJ 42, 2002) I would be most grateful if some one of you has them in digital format and could graciously

[LUTE] Re: A Tale of Three Vespers

2009-10-21 Thread David Tayler
Hi Chris-- Very interesting question! I hope this very question will be revisited in Monteverdi's anniversary year. I'm sure there is a lot to be discovered, when I started playing 40 years ago (41 I guess) there was no lirone and now it has become a big part of continuo. One scholarly opinion

[LUTE] plucked (and plonked) trio

2009-10-21 Thread Stuart Walsh
http://www.lewon.de/inhalt/projekte/ensembles_dulce.php?navbat=03 Ont this page, under 'Tonbeispiele' there are three pieces, including one by Obrecht, 'Nec mihi nec tibi'. Jon Banks claims that this Obrecht untexted chanson was actually conceived and composed for three plucked instruments

[LUTE] Re: A Tale of Three Vespers

2009-10-21 Thread David Tayler
I think if there are primary, extant sources for this it would be interesting to make a list of them and post them on the internet. They would still have to be reconciled with pieces which have both a continuo part and a solo cello part that plays a slightly varied version of the bass line.

[LUTE] Re: A Tale of Three Vespers

2009-10-21 Thread David Tayler
That is Liz Kenny, showing a sparkling technique and keen ensemble skills. dt At 06:58 AM 10/21/2009, you wrote: We all recognize David and David in the first and third videos, but who is the theorbist in the 2nd one? As it is a British production, could it be Elizabeth Kinney? All are very

[LUTE] Re: plucked (and plonked) trio

2009-10-21 Thread David Tayler
There are several cases of untexted chansons in the musicological literarure described as must be instrumental, but usually the text turns up. Not to mention the fact that they sang these pieces on hexachord syllables, oddly enough. You are correct that the lastest round of historical

[LUTE] Re: plucked (and plonked) trio

2009-10-21 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Stuart, Margit actually flew out to the LSA seminar in Ohio a few years ago to play duos with Crawford. Yes, it's in the hammered dulcimer family, yep, sure sounds great and believable in that context and, oh yeah, is she ever in control! It looks like a pretty versatile instrument

[LUTE] Brazilian duet a la Dowland

2009-10-21 Thread Daniel F Heiman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcsSPzr7ays Daniel To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: plucked (and plonked) trio

2009-10-21 Thread David Tayler
There are some people who play the plucky version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9APMU2jXJE But that is a later style. Still, it is an original :) d At 05:52 PM 10/21/2009, you wrote: Hi Stuart, Margit actually flew out to the LSA seminar in Ohio a few years ago to play duos with Crawford.