[BAROQUE-LUTE] Weiss concerto

2011-07-01 Thread Daniel Shoskes
Lucas Harris and Taffelmusik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOAzSVXm4-E To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss concerto

2011-07-01 Thread Ed Durbrow
There are some performers in command of their music! Very nice. The only thing I didn't like was the pixelation of the strings on my video screen. On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Daniel Shoskes wrote: Lucas Harris and Taffelmusik: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOAzSVXm4-E To

[LUTE] Roman Archlute

2011-07-01 Thread David Tayler
I always wanted a really big archlute, after seeing some ofthe ones presumably used in Rome. So I finally worked on a prototype with Andreas von Holst. 70/140cm, plays great at 392, but it is also super at 415.3, but of course you must then have a nylon top string, although I think a really

[LUTE] Re: Roman Archlute

2011-07-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Which are the extant instruments you think of as Roman archlutes? MH --- On Fri, 1/7/11, David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [LUTE] Roman Archlute To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date:

[LUTE] MG's Lute Duets on IMSLP

2011-07-01 Thread Martin Grayson
I do not know if people are aware of my parts for modern lute duets on IMSLP. They were originally composed for two recorders but they make quite good lute duets. The typesetting is done with Sibelius and I am not entirely happy that I should not buy Fronimo and convert the files to

[LUTE] Re: Roman Archlute

2011-07-01 Thread David van Ooijen
Congrats with the beast. Looks like a stunner! And a good concept. Exact historical examples available, or just the general idea? I'm thinking of a new theorbo/archlute/continuo giraffe along similar specs: theorbo power combined with archlute reach. Let us know how it performs in real life.

[LUTE] Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread Andreas Schlegel
There is an important article written by Linda Sayce and Ivo Magherini: L'arciliuto a Roma nel XVII e XVIII secolo, in: Leutaro in Roma, Roma 2007 ISBN 978-88-7575-092-3 Martino Harz, Roma 1665 (Edinburgh): 6x2 = 67.3 (neck shortened and perhaps not original, but 18th century, originally

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you. Whilst not denying that large archlutes existed (played at the appropriate pitch), how do we know that these instruments were not small theorbos with just the first course an octave down? MH --- On Fri, 1/7/11, Andreas Schlegel lute.cor...@sunrise.ch wrote: From:

[LUTE] Re: Roman Archlute

2011-07-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Nice instrument indeed, David. I am collecting my archlute next week-end in Strasbourg, from Julien Stryjak, a young lute-maker partly trained with David Van Edwards for lute building. He is making me a copy of Tieffenbrucker (Vienna C45) 67cm and 142 cm in kingwood - a variety of palisander.

[LUTE] Re: Roman Archlute

2011-07-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
..and if you are not on Facebook and want to give my left-handed archlute a look you can do it there : http://www.flickr.com/photos/34420477@N03/sets/72157626966270853/ Best, Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 01-07-2011, 12:34:12 == Congrats with the

[LUTE] A question about Bakfark's lute music

2011-07-01 Thread Eugene Kurenko
Hello to everybody! This day I had some interest in difficult music for renaissance lute and had dicovered some intabulations by Bakfark. And almost went crazy. Most of them seems for me as bloody hell and almost impossible to play in tempo. I mean this for example:

[LUTE] Re: A question about Bakfark's lute music

2011-07-01 Thread G. Crona
Like this :) http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/heringman-blackcow/ G. - Original Message - From: Eugene Kurenko eugene.kure...@gmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 4:14 PM Subject: [LUTE] A question about Bakfark's lute music Hello to everybody!

[LUTE] Re: A question about Bakfark's lute music

2011-07-01 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I love Bakfark's music, but it gets way too little play by professionals, and I can't really make any of it sound convincing myself. While I can't provide technical advice here, I may be able to point you to some inspiration. Heringman did an excellent CD entitled The Black Cow, half of which

[LUTE] Re: A question about Bakfark's lute music

2011-07-01 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Alan sent this in reply to me only, but I'm certain it was intended for the list and t'other Eugene: From: Alan Hoyle [mailto:adr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:00 AM To: Eugene C. Braig IV Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: A question about Bakfark's

[LUTE] Re: A question about Bakfark's lute music

2011-07-01 Thread Eugene Kurenko
G. Crona, Eugene and Alan thanks a lot for yours replies! It helps very much! Alan (who's only dared to tackle 'Si grand e la pieta' - I can send you the tab I used in a lesson with JH, complete with his fingerings sustains) Oh I'll be happy to get this tab if

[LUTE] Re: Roman Archlute

2011-07-01 Thread David Tayler
I looked at several originals, but since it was a large financial risk I decided to go with a mold the builder had made many times as a small theorbo (it makes an amazing small theorbo). I'll take it on tour to Tanglewood in August for Water Music--if anyone can hear it it will be a

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread David Tayler
Thanks for the info! I would of course be interested in trying another half-circle larger size lute to see what it sounds like, trying out such instruments is of course a great thrill and gives you insights. But they just are not practical for me to play. I would never consider

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread David Tayler
I think it is quite possible that they tuned the first course or courses down. If I were writing the article, I would have, when examining the instruments, examined the bridge and measured the bridge holes as my first task, and if the info is in there I would be interested to see it. dt At

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread Ron Andrico
David: Congratulations on what looks like a very nice instrument. This whole archlute episode brings up an important point: At some point, we have to admit that we are not trying to re-create an historical sound. If we wanted to re-create historical baroque orchestras, first we

[LUTE] A question about Bakfark's lute music

2011-07-01 Thread Sean Smith
Dear Eugene, As Jacob H's name was brought up I'd recommend the Josquin CD instead (or as well). One of Bakfark's finest settings is there and it's interesting to hear how Bakfark differed from others when intabulating similar material. For example, Simon Gintzler's and Albert deRippe's

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread wikla
Dear Ron and others, as I wrote little while ago, the only music we are able to hear is modern music, music created just now. I sincerely agree with the efforts of trying to be as much as possible historically informed, but also that information is changing all the time, and has been changing

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread jslute
Dea= r All, My only question is why no one has done this before = (in our lifetimes, anyway). I have often thought that an archlute would wor= k much better as a continuo instrument if it had a theorbo-size body and a = shorter fretboard. Who needs a 12th fret on a continuo

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread David van Ooijen
On 1 July 2011 21:01, jsl...@verizon.net wrote:    My only question is why no one has done this before = (in our Oh, but people do it all the time. Not everyone tells the world his theorbo is tuned in g and has both two top strings in the higher octave, that's all. Friend of mine has his

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Wonderful, David ;-))) A rose is a rose and HIP is not always so HIP after all :-) ! Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 01-07-2011, 21:12:45 == On 1 July 2011 21:01, jsl...@verizon.net wrote:    My only question is why no one has done this before = (in

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread wikla
Just put carbons to my strange archlute 67/100 cm. Nylon on top g' and 30 year old Pyramids on the 3 lowest basses - worn out enough not to be too loud and ringing. And _singles_ on the fingerboard. I really do not know, do I love or hate that setting! The single strings fool me making the theorbo

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread howard posner
On Jul 1, 2011, at 12:32 PM, wikla wrote: 30 year old Pyramids on the 3 lowest basses - worn out enough not to be too loud and ringing. Don't you love those? If Pyramid starts selling pre-aged strings they could recapture the HIP market. To get on or off this list see list information

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread David Tayler
Indeed--I have seen them in field, my idea was to build it from the ground up rather than retrofit an existing instrument. I did a set once with a well-known (to borrow David's excellent term) group, and they asked my to play this really high part on the theorbo. I said ( Ihad my

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread David Tayler
I have to say, a toasted Pyramid bass string is a thing of beauty. dt __ From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Fri, July 1, 2011 12:46:17 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re:

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread David Tayler
Well, I think we have an opportunity, especially with video, to do our own thing. I think it is great that we can still reinvent HIP, and on the other hand we now have lots of skilled players in the talent pool, and they are happy to play without conductors. The modern baroque

[LUTE] Re: A question about Bakfark's lute music

2011-07-01 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Yes, another excellent CD. Pretty peripheral, but those two recordings were the two Heringman made for prog rocker Robert Fripp's Discipline Global Mobile label. Best, t'other Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of

[LUTE] Re: A question about Bakfark's lute music

2011-07-01 Thread Ed Durbrow
I just looked at the first chord and said no. I hate that chord. On Jul 1, 2011, at 11:14 PM, Eugene Kurenko wrote: Hello to everybody! This day I had some interest in difficult music for renaissance lute and had dicovered some intabulations by Bakfark. And almost went