[BAROQUE-LUTE] La Conversation - de Visee

2011-10-20 Thread Rob MacKillop
Another beautiful Allemande by Robert de Visee. Did he ever write a bad piece? I don't think so. [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI1hJ_tPQAw or on the ning site: [2]http://lutegroup.ning.com/video/la-conversation-by-robert-de-visee?x g_source=activity Rob MacKillop

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-20 Thread Andreas Schroth
Thank You! It sounds as in my imagination a lute should sound, dark like from a time far away. It reminds me of Jakob Lindberg's restored original lute. I have a 13 course after Hoffmann (which one I don't know right now) by Nico van der Waals from around 1980. The sound is silbrig and the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-20 Thread Rob MacKillop
Andreas, I am pleased you like the sound. I really like the 'roundness' or 'camber' of the fretboard. It makes a big difference for the left hand. One of the best things about this lute is the shape and thickness of the neck. The back of the neck is flat at the first fret position, and curved

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-20 Thread Rob MacKillop
Ah strings...D'Addario Phosphor Bronze, 12s. Oh, you mean on the lute? Well, I'm not 100 per cent sure, as Malcolm's computer died just as he was about to send me the string list. But all the trebles and bass octaves are gut. I am a fan of old Kurschner basses, but will have to wait a year or

[LUTE] Re: BWV 998

2011-10-20 Thread dc
Thanks to all for the comments! Much appreciated. Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-20 Thread William Samson
I will doubtless experiment with strings over the coming year. I love the creaky-ness of the gut strings, but I am having intonation problems which can be really annoying. Damian Dlugolecki sent me some gut basses to try out, and I am interested in Dan's gimped strings too. But it

[LUTE] Re: More on the lute-harpsichord (was Re: BWV 998

2011-10-20 Thread Martyn Hodgson
In had in mind Adlung's (Musica mechanica organoedi) specific comment in which he recalls: having seen and heard a 'Lautenclavicymbel' in Leipzig in about 1740, designed by Mr. Johann Sebastian Bach and made by Mr. Zacharias Hildebrand, which was smaller in size than a normal

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-20 Thread Rob MacKillop
Well, we have the option that Weiss et al never had. Pluses and minuses on both sides. In the classical guitar world, when Segovia changed from gut to nylon, most people went with him, but not everyone, i.e. Pujol and his school. The arguments will remain until people no longer make gut

[LUTE] Re: BWV 998

2011-10-20 Thread Stephan Olbertz
I always wondered if Prelude pour la Luth o Cembal could simply mean that he composed a Prelude for the lute, instead of a pars pro toto meaning. Later he added two other movements for his (lute-)harpsichord. The first movement is clearly the best working piece. Concerning BWV 995, there

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-20 Thread Christopher Wilke
Rob, Great playing. Very beautiful and sensitive. But... --- On Thu, 10/20/11, Rob MacKillop robmackil...@gmail.com wrote: Anything that takes the lute further away from the classical guitar is, in my opinion, a good thing. Do we really need to be contrarian? Just because modern

[LUTE] Re: Lute matters

2011-10-20 Thread Edward Mast
Egad - another Dowland piece, just when I've decided to read through all the pieces in D. Poulton's collected works of Dowland. But, one can never have too much Dowland! Thank you, Ron. On a related note, I'm grateful to youtube and the accomplished players who post there. Looking at

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-20 Thread Daniel Winheld
Well I just noticed (after the fact) that right there in your initial post you designate the strings. Kind what I thought I heard, including the nylgut treble. Just these past two weeks I have strung my own Baroque lute (Old Robert Lundberg Hoffthing) in NewNylGut on the first five courses.

[LUTE] Any old Loaded guts out there?

2011-10-20 Thread Daniel Winheld
Does anyone out there have any old first generation Mimmo Peruffo loaded gut bass strings they could sell? I dug out a few from my own ancient gut pile that passes for my string repository and find them to be superb for the Baroque lute bass fundamentals- but I have a few gaps to fill. Would be

[LUTE] Re: Any old Loaded guts out there?

2011-10-20 Thread Edward Martin
Have you tried the Antiques Roadshow? ed At 12:03 PM 10/20/2011, Daniel Winheld wrote: Does anyone out there have any old first generation Mimmo Peruffo loaded gut bass strings they could sell? I dug out a few from my own ancient gut pile that passes for my string repository and find them to

[LUTE] Off topic: Woods so Wild

2011-10-20 Thread wikla
Sorry for off topic! Just some photos of wild woods in Finland today: https://picasaweb.google.com/114782807109183620580/WoodsSoWildOct202011 Best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Off topic: Woods so Wild

2011-10-20 Thread Edward Martin
Thanks, Arto. it looks exactly like where I reside, in northern Minnesota. ed At 12:35 PM 10/20/2011, wikla wrote: Sorry for off topic! Just some photos of wild woods in Finland today: https://picasaweb.google.com/114782807109183620580/WoodsSoWildOct202011 Best, Arto To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: Off topic: Woods so Wild

2011-10-20 Thread Garry Warber
Arto, So very like the woods here in Michigan! Except I think your's aren't so crowded... Garry -Original Message- From: wikla Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Off topic: Woods so Wild Sorry for off topic! Just some photos of wild

[LUTE] string tension

2011-10-20 Thread Gert de Vries
Dear all, I have a little problem, my lute maker who always helps me with my strings is far away till december. My lute is tuned in 415, and I need to go to 440, and I am really bad in calculating, so maybe there is someone who is able to do that without too much effort? I would be really

[LUTE] Re: string tension

2011-10-20 Thread Gernot Hilger
On 20.10.2011, at 21:27, Gert de Vries wrote: Chanterelle I have d'd' is 0,54 aa is 0,68 ff is 0,82 cc is 104 D G-g is 136 D - 0,73 g' probably 0.42 d' 0.51 a 0.64 f 0.77 c 0.98 Gg 1.28/0.69 -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! Jetzt

[LUTE] Re: string tension

2011-10-20 Thread Ken Brodkey
Unfortunately, nlygut isn't made in all sizes. For the .51 listed below use .52 For .77 use .79 for the .98 type D use 100 For .69 nylgut 6th course octave use .70 I, personally would use a 132 type D for the 6th course fundamental, but 128 is available. Ken On 10/20/2011 12:49 PM, Gernot

[LUTE] Re: string tension

2011-10-20 Thread Daniel Winheld
At 63 cm. with those string sizes I'd say you are already a bit on the high side, tension wise. I would never take 63 cm. up to 440 with those strings without clearing the safety issue with the builder. You don't want the bridge going on vacation while your builder is on vacation. I like Dan

[LUTE] Re: string tension

2011-10-20 Thread Ken Brodkey
I find that nylgut stretches and thins out, so it helps to go with a little bit bigger string than the equivalent gut string to get a similar tension. I'm not sure about the new nylgut, though. It's supposed to stretch less. Ken On 10/20/2011 1:25 PM, Daniel Winheld wrote: At 63 cm. with

[LUTE] Re: string tension

2011-10-20 Thread Daniel Winheld
New nylgut stretches less. Go no thicker than gut. On Oct 20, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Ken Brodkey wrote: I find that nylgut stretches and thins out, so it helps to go with a little bit bigger string than the equivalent gut string to get a similar tension. I'm not sure about the new nylgut,

[LUTE] Re: Off topic: Woods so Wild

2011-10-20 Thread Edward Mast
Thanks - Lovely ! Ned On Oct 20, 2011, at 1:35 PM, wikla wrote: Sorry for off topic! Just some photos of wild woods in Finland today: https://picasaweb.google.com/114782807109183620580/WoodsSoWildOct202011 Best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: string tension

2011-10-20 Thread Leonard Williams
Try Arto Wikla's calculator: it allows calculations with a variety of string materials, as well as tensions, mensurs and pitches. http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/NewScalc/ Leonard On 10/20/11 3:27 PM, Gert de Vries desge...@xs4all.nl wrote: Dear all, I have a little problem, my lute

[LUTE] Re: Address book hijacked

2011-10-20 Thread Daniel Winheld
Thanks for clearing that up. I assume they now know how to finger Dowland's Lachrimae the way I do. Hope you're at least getting your own emails. Dan On Oct 20, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Edward Mast wrote: Hello all, It appears that a Canadian drug company has hijacked the addresses in my

[LUTE] Re: string tension

2011-10-20 Thread William Samson
I think one problem will be getting a chanterelle that won't break with a 63cm scale and tuned to g at a440. Gut probably wouldn't last very long, but synthetics would be OK. I support the advice you've been given about making sure the tension isn't too much. If I remember