I think the English guitar is the instrument that has survived in
Portugal as one of the fundamental ingredient of traditional fado...
Anyways, I really just want to congratulate Gary on his phenomenal work,
Alain
On 1/31/2013 5:07 AM, Gary R. Boye wrote:
Dear Bill,
I think I can (briefly) a
that's the whole point of the Meucci paper -
that chitarrone was exactly that,
and gradually evolved into conflation with theorbo.
RT
On 1/31/2013 6:24 PM, WALSH STUART wrote:
On 31/01/2013 22:33, Monica Hall wrote:
I still don't understand that if this is a 'chitarra' and chitarra
relates t
On 31/01/2013 22:33, Monica Hall wrote:
I still don't understand that if this is a 'chitarra' and chitarra
relates to what other places called 'gittern' (with all the spelling
variants), how these things are this big?
Like Topsy - it just grew!
Well then, I wonder why the players of the ti
Might it not have been the case that there were a variety of sizes?
Could there have been such a thing as a 'great-octave-bass' chitarra?
[Kidding]
Still, in the 18th century there was at least one very big 5c guitar
made by Stradivari. Does anybody have statistics on string length
beats me.
RT
On 1/31/2013 5:24 PM, WALSH STUART wrote:
On 31/01/2013 22:03, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
I've extracted an interesting chitarra italiana image from a youtube
video:
http://polyhymnion.org/mus/chitarra-it.jpg
RT
Very interesting Any idea of the date/provenance? It lo
Indeed. Morlaye takes his liberties re-serving the likes of Francesco, Borrono
and Paladin(o). It may be name value only that got Albert's name attached to
those 'guitar' pieces.
I was plinking through the Vaccaro/deRipa last night and #20 is entirely built
upon the the theme of Josquin's Adi
I still don't understand that if this is a 'chitarra' and chitarra
relates to what other places called 'gittern' (with all the spelling
variants), how these things are this big?
Like Topsy - it just grew!
Monica
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Well - to keep the ball rolling here are a few observations.
It's interesting that you mention the Ripa fantasias - but how do we know
that they were written for the guitar in the first place? A lot of the
4-course music is arrangements of pre-existing pieces. One of the pieces in
Barberiis i
On 31/01/2013 22:03, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
I've extracted an interesting chitarra italiana image from a youtube
video:
http://polyhymnion.org/mus/chitarra-it.jpg
RT
Very interesting Any idea of the date/provenance? It looks like
five-course (and definitely not re-entrant) and citter
I've extracted an interesting chitarra italiana image from a youtube video:
http://polyhymnion.org/mus/chitarra-it.jpg
RT
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Well, it's hard to say whether the train of this argument has run its course or
whether it's all gone off the rails now. I still think some sort of ren. guitar
would be possible in Dalza's Italy and have heard no evidence that it couldn't.
We may disagree as to the instrument portrayed in the i
Dear Dan,
Well, are they octaves, or just shadows? There's no corresponding
evidence of gut going over the bridge, and they seem to break up over
the rose as you might expect shadows to. My reading is
single strings on 7th and 8th courses.
Best wishes,
David
At 11:03 -0800 31/1/1
David-
thanks for the Alfonso Marin's link. The detail from Rutilio Manetti's
painting I found very interesting; and leads me back to an earlier Lute
List discussion of octave stringing. The picture, dated 1624, shows an 8
course lute (broken single first course) and what appears to me to be
u
Dear Julien,
The best I have is now up on the website at
http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/bridge255.jpg
The treble side is clearly a bit damaged but the
bass end shows it to be a sort of arrow head on
the end of standard curly arm. A bit like the end
of the Devil's tail?
Best wishes,
David
Dear Martin,
One of the best is Klassiskgitar at:
http://www.klassiskgitar.net/imagesmain.html
Also Alfonso Marin's
http://www.lutevoice.com/luteiconography/Page%201.html
Best wishes,
David
At 17:29 +0100 31/1/13, Martin Shepherd wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Can someone remind me of the best sources
On Jan 31, 2013, at 7:17 AM, G. D. Rossi wrote:
> thanks, howard.
Don't mention it.
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Dear all,
I'm currently making a theorbo after the instrument from Sellas, now in
the Brussels museum (n° M 255), a well-known small "theorbo".
I've been looking at the drawing from the museum, and can't figure out
exactly how the bridge is carved at its ends. It is definitely different
from
Hi All,
Can someone remind me of the best sources for lute pictures on the web?
At the moment I'm particularly interested in stripey lutes with ribs of
different colours - is the lighter colour nearly always the edge rib, or
is that usually the darker colour? And is the capping strip the sam
Perhaps none of our friends from the Dutch Lute Society is on this list,
so I'll promote their introductory offer (valid until 30 april):
There will be a new Vallet facsimile edition in spring
1. facsimile-editie van de werken van Vallet € 75 NOW € 65
2. dubbel-CD met muziek van Vallet € 22 NOW
And before too late, could that someone also mention Taro Takeuchi's
"Affectuoso", as well as his two-part video on youtube. On the second
one, he plays the so-called 'piano forte' guitar, with the de-touchable
key mechanism - the sort of instrument that could surely be a God-send
addition to M
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] on behalf of howard
posner [howardpos...@ca.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:07 AM
To: Lute list
Subject: [LUTE] Re: The English Guitar
On Jan 31, 2013, at 5:24 AM, G. D. Rossi wrote:
On Jan 31, 2013, at 5:24 AM, G. D. Rossi wrote:
> I've published articles on this topic - it was indeed called "English"
> at the time, and several other things as well.
>
> I play the JCB in concert regularly and have recorded it, too - it's a
> delight to play - both parts work well on
Dear Rob,
With regard to the name, it may have been the Portugese who, of course,
still play a variant of the 'English' guit(t)ar (the guitarra), who
prompted the modern usage of 'English guit(t)ar' for the instrument.
For example, two Portugese manuscript collections (P-La, 54-XI
I've published articles on this topic - it was indeed called "English"
at the time, and several other things as well.
I play the JCB in concert regularly and have recorded it, too - it's a
delight to play - both parts work well on the guittar even though the
other part is for violin
There is an "English guitar" sitting on Thomas Jefferson's harpsichord at
Monticello.
Joseph Mayes
On 1/31/13 8:07 AM, "Gary R. Boye" wrote:
> Dear Bill,
>
> I think I can (briefly) answer your questions:
>
> There is a HUGE amount of music that survives for this instrument. If
> you check m
Dear Bill,
I think I can (briefly) answer your questions:
There is a HUGE amount of music that survives for this instrument. If
you check my web page for the 18th century and do a CTRL-F for "english
guitar" there are at least 274 publications:
http://applications.library.appstate.edu/music/
(Semi) serious question. What music was composed for this instrument
outside Scotland? - Is it any good? (- the music from outside Scotland,
that is).
Second question - What did they call this instrument back in the day?
Specifically, was it ever called "The English Guitar"?
Bi
Dear Howard,
You may be right - but I doubt it.
Martyn
--- On Wed, 30/1/13, howard posner wrote:
From: howard posner
Subject: [LUTE] Re: 6c guittar
To: "Lute"
Date: Wednesday, 30 January, 2013, 15:20
On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Martyn Hodgson
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