[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

2013-01-26 Thread Arto Wikla
On 26/01/13 22:38, William Samson wrote: I'll also ask the collective wisdom if they know of any solo Italian repertoire for this instrument before I go and make one. Well, I already made mine in the 1990's and web-published those in 2008. There is one Cazzati and a couple of Zannetis,

[LUTE] Tiny little Capirola Recercar

2013-01-25 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I just tubed Capirola's short Recercar decimo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH3D5L8bUyofeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/58203825 Nice little piece, but perhaps not so trivial, as it looks like; there are some so called false relations (for ex. f against f#) and some

[BAROQUE-LUTE] ... a tiny Rondo by a tiny Count ...

2013-01-18 Thread Arto Wikla
.. just in (the rare) case someone is interested: Rondaut Comte d'Logy (US-NYpMYO, f.33v-34r) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZsNLTeD7iofeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/57699391 Arto On 16/01/13 21:51, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear baroque lutenists, I happened to find a Courante by Losy

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Sturm und Drang before Sturm und Drang...

2013-01-16 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear baroque lutenists, I happened to find a Courante by Losy that starts very French way, but in the B section goes to some kind of Sturm und Drang. Perhaps Losy is an interesting case, anyhow... ;-) Courante Comte d'Logy (US-NYpMYO, f.31v-32r):

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: La prima sera in NYp-MYO: composer and structure?

2013-01-14 Thread Arto Wikla
Message - From: Arto Wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 3:29 PM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: La prima sera in NYp-MYO: composer and structure? In case someone wants to investigate the original title, you can see it here: http

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Entertainment or art?

2013-01-14 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear baroque musicians, in case my direct, unedited, not echo-boosted home recordings insult you, please delete this mail immediately! ;-) If you did not: I just tubed an Endre (Entree) and an Aria in A-major from US-NYpMYO. They are kind of simply pieces, the Endre perhaps even sounds

[BAROQUE-LUTE] A dramatic Aria in US-NYpMYO. Anyone recognises?

2013-01-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi lutenists, An Aria with a mini Prelude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0WWgw-wJ2ofeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/56928250 Anyone recognises this Aria? it is probably an Italian opera aria that was known in Vienna sometime around 1700. Arto On 29/12/12 22:25, Arto Wikla wrote

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A dramatic Aria in US-NYpMYO. Anyone recognises?

2013-01-07 Thread Arto Wikla
ex B g-moll- D-B40627 / 63v Best regards Markus Am 07.01.2013 20:30, schrieb Arto Wikla: Hi lutenists, An Aria with a mini Prelude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0WWgw-wJ2ofeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/56928250 Anyone recognises this Aria? it is probably an Italian opera aria

[BAROQUE-LUTE] An anonymous Aria sounds so familiar...

2012-12-27 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear baroque lutenists, I happened to find an unknown Aria by an unknown composer in ms. US-NYpMYO, fol. 13v. The piece sounds irritatingly familiar, though. If somebody happens to know the piece or the composer, please let me know!

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Austrian(?) baroque in a New Yorkian ms.

2012-12-22 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear baroque lutenists, a tiny Preludium and an Allamande in the US-NYpMYO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=293ITxEklvQfeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/56162661 Not very difficult pieces at all! But I really do like the often very economic style of the early and middle baroque -

[LUTE] Re: De Visee tab emergency

2012-12-15 Thread Arto Wikla
The two Saizenay facsimiles are public. And in very beautiful way, see http://culture.besancon.fr/ark:/48565/a011284026247S0XA9H/1/1 Arto On 16/12/12 02:45, be...@interlog.com wrote: Hi, folks! Hope all is well. I'm sending out a request for a couple of De Visee tabs that I can't seem to

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Still more de Visee...

2012-12-14 Thread Arto Wikla
... ;-) Best, Arto On 07/12/12 21:57, Arto Wikla wrote: Just in case someone is interested, I played today a Sarabande in F major by de Visee. Could be played cleaner, but the piece is quite intersting: [3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHCOlVzffxkfeature=youtu.be [4

[BAROQUE-LUTE] An Allemande by de Visee has something in common with the Corelli Courante?

2012-11-17 Thread Arto Wikla
version, and only to the d-minor tuned lute? best, Arto On 16/11/12 22:02, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear lutenists of every type and baroque guitarists, I find it quite interesting that monsieur de Visee made some arrangements of some of the most famous composers of his time. I tried

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Preludes by Vieux Gaultier ???

2012-11-15 Thread Arto Wikla
Sorry, it is in A MAJOR On 15/11/12 20:04, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear Jean-Marie, in GB-Ob ms. G.617 there seems to be one Prelude de Gautier de P, p. 120-121, in A minor. Peter S's pages say it is V. Gaultier. Isn't the P for Paris? All the best, Arto On 15/11/12 12:44, Jean-Marie

[BAROQUE-LUTE] The famous de Visee Chaconne as lute version

2012-11-09 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi again dear pluckers, I just tried to play my version ofthe famous Chaconne to theorbo arranged to baroque lute. Possibly by the composer himself? Or not by him? Who knows... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqHHPeLMNYUfeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/53172045 I know the theorbo

[LUTE] Re: density of carbon and nylon

2012-11-03 Thread Arto Wikla
Nylon 1000 Kg / m3 Carbon 1791 Kg / m3 Arto On 03/11/12 09:01, Herbert Ward wrote: Does anyone have numbers for the density of nylon and the density of carbon? Or, equivalently, a chart showing diameter x in nylon = diameter y in carbon? I used Google for several minutes, but did not find

[LUTE] Re: density of carbon and nylon

2012-11-03 Thread Arto Wikla
On 03/11/12 10:15, David van Ooijen wrote: To add to the confusion, this is what I have: Gut 1360 kg/m3 Nylon 1140 kg/m3 Carbon ca 1800 kg/m3 On 3 November 2012 08:38, Arto Wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote: Nylon 1000 Kg / m3 Carbon 1791 Kg / m3 Arto On 03/11/12 09:01, Herbert Ward wrote

[BAROQUE-LUTE] From Scotland back to France ...

2012-10-27 Thread Arto Wikla
... and then F# minor again: Robert de Visee: Gavotte in F# minor [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VlBbuW22zYfeature=youtu.be [2]http://vimeo.com/52292492 best, Arto On 25/10/12 23:03, Arto Wikla wrote: ... and then my 2nd try of La Montfermeil

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Vienna lute music 1672

2012-10-25 Thread Arto Wikla
Beautiful! Thank you Bernhard! Arto PS What is Peter Steur's code for this ms.? PS2 Can the pdf be found somewhere? On 24/10/12 11:49, Bernhard Fischer wrote: Dear lute friends, The Austrian National Library owns a baroque lute manuscript hand-written by the composer Johann

[BAROQUE-LUTE] From Scotland back to France ...

2012-10-25 Thread Arto Wikla
... and then my 2nd try of La Montfermeil, Rondeau by de Visee: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZpGmZaP1u8feature=youtu.be [2]http://vimeo.com/52176020 best, Arto On 20/10/12 22:50, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear baroque lutenists, after having played some

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Devo's gige, by mr. Beck

2012-10-13 Thread Arto Wikla
.. I could not resist --- as I told, addictive it is ... ;-) Devo's gige, by mr. Beck http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81ohrvaneF4feature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/51355922 All the best, Arto Dear lutenists, I already decided to come back to the Continental lute repertoire, but couldn't

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Who or what was is this Devo?

2012-10-13 Thread Arto Wikla
/12 22:30, Arto Wikla wrote: .. I could not resist --- as I told, addictive it is ... ;-) Devo's gige, by mr. Beck http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81ohrvaneF4feature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/51355922 All the best, Arto Dear lutenists, I already decided to come back to the Continental lute

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Well, the Balcarres ms. really is addictive!

2012-10-12 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I already decided to come back to the Continental lute repertoire, but couldn't yet... ;) In many years I tried to understand the Scottish lute music, but could not - it just looked like some aleatoric computer generated random stuff. But for some reason or another I

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Lute setting of the sad and even political Gilderoy ballad

2012-10-05 Thread Arto Wikla
is in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ2hXggEt88feature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/50845390 All the best, Arto On 03/10/12 22:15, Arto Wikla wrote: On 01/10/12 21:55, Arto Wikla wrote: Hi all, After the Paunges of a desperate lover, Mr. McLaughland's way, by mr. Beck (ms. Balcarres 187

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Paunges(?) of a desperate lover... what is this paunges?

2012-10-03 Thread Arto Wikla
On 01/10/12 21:55, Arto Wikla wrote: Hi all, After the Paunges of a desperate lover, Mr. McLaughland's way, by mr. Beck (ms. Balcarres 187) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PO3whJQX6gfeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/50701736 Does this paunges mean pangs? So some kind of pains or sorrows

[BAROQUE-LUTE] What is this Scottish(?) melody in ms. Balcarres?

2012-10-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I happened to meet one melody in the Balcarres' ms., which I know I know from the times of my early student years - it was actually a recorded example in the appendix record of one VERY early book about computer music (!). The piece was called with a name that was somehow

[BAROQUE-LUTE] There is something unique in the way the Scots adopted the lute

2012-09-28 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, as my subject says, there really is something unique in the way the Scots adopted the lute. Already in the times of the vieil accord, the renaissance tuning, the Scots used the lute in playing their own songs and melodies - in modern terms playing the folk music. And that

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Pantaloon(=Bergamasca) ends my tiny D. Grieve project

2012-09-25 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I end my tiny project of trying to understand David Grieve (of the ms. Balcarres) by Grieve's version of the most famous Bergamasca jam session chord progression of the renaissance and baroque. The man clearly seems to have his own style among the musicians/composers of the

[LUTE] Re: Le théorbe progressif de Helstroffer

2012-09-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Strange, crazy, weird, odd, freak, ..., but interesting! Thanks for the link, Bernd! :-) Arto On 24/09/12 19:51, Bernd Haegemann wrote: So, it seems that the theorbo is the Brahms of the instruments?

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Just a plain Amarillis

2012-09-23 Thread Arto Wikla
Sorry for flooding, ..., but it just is so inspiring to try to understand a style that is new to you... This time I tried an Amarillis by an anonymous composer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGyKh1GV5SIfeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/50013553 Arto On 22/09/12 21:23, Arto Wikla

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Amarillis, told her swanne, David Grieve's way

2012-09-22 Thread Arto Wikla
, Arto Wikla wrote: Well, in case there is some interest ... ;-) Also David Grieve wrote his Tastar de corde: The touching of the strings, David Grieve's way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro0mY_wUwwAfeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/49927107 Best, Arro On 19/09/12 21:23, Arto Wikla wrote

[BAROQUE-LUTE] David Grieve of Balcarres knew ALSO the Scottish style ... ;)

2012-09-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Just in case someone is interested... The Lady Errols delight, the 2nd way, by David Grieve http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d-KkdCwOSgfeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/49778004 Best, Arto On 14/09/12 20:50, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear lutenists, if my flooding hurts, just delete

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Fingers, pentatonic, Balcarres and Mr. Beck ...

2012-09-13 Thread Arto Wikla
Well, I tried one much more well behaving Balcarres piece: ;-) From the fair Lavinion shoar, David Grieve's way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdIYivEF5E8feature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/49398999 Arto On 08/09/12 21:50, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear lutenists of both Lists, I have been trying

[LUTE] Re: Over the Dyke, and kisse her ladie, mr. Beck's way

2012-09-06 Thread Arto Wikla
of course be played more cleanly. Just in case somebody is interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVnkBa1hdQcfeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/48826023 Best, Arto On 02/09/12 21:55, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear lutenists, my weekend project was to play some Scottish, Celtic sounding small

[LUTE] Over the Dyke, and kisse her ladie, mr. Beck's way

2012-09-04 Thread Arto Wikla
.. well, more Balcarres ... the piece is beautiful. Could of course be played more cleanly. Just in case somebody is interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVnkBa1hdQcfeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/48826023 Best, Arto On 02/09/12 21:55, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear lutenists, my

[LUTE] Balcarres: so easy and so difficult

2012-09-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, my weekend project was to play some Scottish, Celtic sounding small pieces by Mr. Beck of the Balcarres manuscript. In a way mostly the music is not technically very difficult, but on the other hand, musically it certainly is not easy! In case someone is interested, the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] More Celtic baroque from Scotland

2012-09-01 Thread Arto Wikla
. Fruitful mixture! Best, Arto On 31/08/12 22:05, Arto Wikla wrote: Hi all I tried to play a piece of the ms. Balcarres, the Joy to the Person of my love, mr. Beck's way: [1][3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h3B6kimdNIfeature=youtu.be [2][4]http://vimeo.com/48612640

[LUTE] Re: instrumental air de cours

2012-08-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Beautiful, thanks David! Arto On 30/08/12 13:52, David van Ooijen wrote: For a cd recording I made earlier this year, I needed an instrumental version of the beautiful air de cour Cessez mortels de souspirer by Pierre Guédron. I am sure I am not the only one who makes such arrangements, but

[LUTE] Re: Dowland

2012-08-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Very beautiful Lady Layton's Almain. Thank you Magdalena! Arto On 18/08/12 19:44, MAGDALENA TOMSINSKA wrote: Dear all, this Summer with Collegium Vocale Bydgoszcz I recorded a CD dedicated to John Dowland's music. If you are interested - please look here:

[LUTE] ... just photos ... so very OT ...

2012-08-07 Thread Arto Wikla
.. well, somebody urged me ... Staircase to heaven: https://picasaweb.google.com/114782807109183620580/StaircaseToHeavenAug72012 Saturday afternoon fever: https://picasaweb.google.com/114782807109183620580/SaturdayAfternoonFeverAug42012 more or less abstract stuff as is our music ... ;)

[LUTE] Re: Aegidius MS?

2012-08-06 Thread Arto Wikla
Thanks for that Bernd! I had to play one tiny little Aria by the famous Anon.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TuocWhQnMEfeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/47030859 (vimeo version will be there in 10 minutes) There is lots of good and interesting music in this ms! All the best, Arto On

[BAROQUE-LUTE] My 3rd Dubut ... ;-)

2012-07-09 Thread Arto Wikla
.. and a charming(?) Chaconne: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CGi0bSx8lMfeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/45459264 Possible merits to Dubut, obvious faults to me ... :) Arto On 05/07/12 22:33, Arto Wikla wrote: .. another Dubut, a Sarabande:;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

[LUTE] Re: My 3rd Dubut ... ;-)

2012-07-09 Thread Arto Wikla
- as seems to be the norm in my case ... ;-) Best, Arto Original Message Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] My 3rd Dubut ... ;-) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 23:12:27 +0300 From: Arto Wikla [3]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi To: [4]baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu [5]baroque-l

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: First touch to Dubut, The Wagtail

2012-07-05 Thread Arto Wikla
.. another Dubut, a Sarabande:;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2oxieqoM6Ifeature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/45257093 Seems to be interesting composer! Arto On 04/07/12 20:26, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear b-lutenists, my first try to Pierre Dubut's (fils?) music is Gavotte(?) La

[LUTE] Re: Tuning

2012-07-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Ron, I love your comment on this subject! :-) Arto On 25/06/12 16:13, Ron Andrico wrote: I have to say, I'm always amused by these discussions that broadly outline the imprint of theoretical measurements on the phenomenon of sound. If we look at all the factors, including

[LUTE] ... lalcier, et un spiciar, lave??

2012-06-17 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, in the ms. Capirola inxed there is a not-so-clear text that the SPES facsimile editor O. Cristoforetti interpretes as Recercar ottavo, lalcier, et un spiciar, lave. What could that explanation lalcier, et un spiciar, lave mean? It doesn't look like modern Italian, nor Latin.

[LUTE] Re: An old Capirola edition?

2012-06-16 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, many thanks to all, who commented very interestingly - in public and in private - the Capirola Padoana! I have been checking also some other pieces by mesez Vicenzo capirola, as the SPES facsimile names the composer on the cover. It seems to be obvious that the 4th course

[LUTE] An old Capirola edition?

2012-06-15 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists I played an old version of a Padoana Veneziana, old _modern version_ of this piece. It seems to be a free edition of the real Capirola .23. Padoana belissima, descorda come sancta trinitas (Minkoff page 54). In the original the 6th course is lowered a whole tone, the

[LUTE] 3 gig clips - Dowland and Caccini

2012-06-12 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, alta/bassa ensemble was a warming up band to a baroque violin hero; we had just an half an hour gig. Three clips of our gig: Dowland: Say love if ever thou didst find: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Td0M5lgdW4 Dowland: Now O now my needs must part:

[LUTE] Dalza, first touching the strings and then researching

2012-06-10 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I had my new Lauri Niskanen Venere 7-courser set a new bridge; the original had 8.3cm between the extreme strings. That was too little. Lauri changed it to 9cm, and that feels much better. To make my hand learn the new distances I had to touch the strings and make a little

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Logy Courante and Double

2012-06-03 Thread Arto Wikla
Is the ms. Denby the same as the ms. Danby? See Crawford's page http://www.doc.gold.ac.uk/~mas01tc/web/ttc/Danby.html Arto On 03/06/12 23:02, Daniel Shoskes wrote: The D-B Ms SA4060 Ms is turning out to be a very entertaining source of music. I found a courante by Logy that has a

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes

2012-06-03 Thread Arto Wikla
Great version of the Ravenscroft piece! Enjoyable! Many thanks!! Arto On 02/06/12 07:08, Ron Andrico wrote: We have posted our Saturday morning quotes with a new video. [1]http://wp.me/p15OyV-ph Donna Ron -- References 1. http://wp.me/p15OyV-ph To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: Bb-maj suite with also the WRITTEN ms.!

2012-06-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Original Message Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Bb-maj suite with also the WRITTEN ms.! Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 22:48:05 +0300 From: Arto Wikla [1]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi To: [2]baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu [3]baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Dear baroque lutenists

[BAROQUE-LUTE] B-flat major is actually quite a cute key ...

2012-06-01 Thread Arto Wikla
.. a couple of tiny little Kremsmunsterian pieces (Gavotte and Menuet, perhaps?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsBYVNfQzfUfeature=youtu.be Happy key, Arto On 31/05/12 23:19, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear b-lutenists, remember, delete is easy, if this kind of mails hurt... ;-) I just

[BAROQUE-LUTE] 11th course in Bb is fun!

2012-05-31 Thread Arto Wikla
...? ;-)) So, this is perhaps an Allemande: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRpdYIiB_pAfeature=youtu.be Best, Arto On 30/05/12 20:28, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear lutenists, I happened to find a possible source of this famous Christmas carol in a baroque lute ms. The B-part of the piece is very near

[BAROQUE-LUTE] We Wish You A Merry Christmas

2012-05-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I happened to find a possible source of this famous Christmas carol in a baroque lute ms. The B-part of the piece is very near... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSd3TmSgM-Mfeature=youtu.be yes, yes, I now the Christmas is not near... ;-) Arto To get on or off this list

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Austrian baroque pop...

2012-05-23 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I perhaps should not shamelessly self promote(?), but this kind of mails are anyhow so easily deleted... ;-) So, I am still advertising the lute music after Dowland and before Weiss. There is lots of that!! Now I have a tiny project of getting to know the Austrian (=Imperial)

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Zingy strings

2012-05-23 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Bill and the List, I recommend Mimmo's Aquila's D's to the basses, for which there still are no NNG's/NGE's. Wound on NNG, I guess. But much, very much better than the old Pyramid type wound strings. And if I have understood it right, Mimmo is developing a better solution: loaded

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Zingy strings

2012-05-23 Thread Arto Wikla
And Bill, I actually just replaced the old, very old - 1980's! - Pyramid basses of my 10-courser to Aquila's D's. Great improvement! Some examples of those D's (and also mainly NNG's): Entree de Luth - Branle de Village 1 - Branle de Village 3.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Zingy strings

2012-05-23 Thread Arto Wikla
Something wrong with the first link!? This should work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4vgNR9GipAfeature=youtu.be Arto On 23/05/12 23:40, Arto Wikla wrote: And Bill, I actually just replaced the old, very old - 1980's! - Pyramid basses of my 10-courser to Aquila's D's. Great

[BAROQUE-LUTE] What is this nice little piece?

2012-05-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I happened to find a simple but also quite beautiful little piece to baroque lute. It is in one of the Kremsmunster mss., A-KR L83b, fol. 25r, piece number 248.There is no name of the piece, neither of the composer, but somehow this piece sounds so familiar! The piece is so

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: What is this nice little piece?

2012-05-19 Thread Arto Wikla
On 19/05/12 22:18, Arto Wikla wrote: Now also in Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/42462352 Dear lutenists, I happened to find a simple but also quite beautiful little piece to baroque lute. It is in one of the Kremsmunster mss., A-KR L83b, fol. 25r, piece number 248.There is no name of the piece

[LUTE] Lute Toccata before 1611?

2012-05-08 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, while trying to activate my old vieil accord understanding, I have played some Toccate by 10-courser. I started with Piccinini 1639, then M. Galilei 1620, and today Kapsberger 1611: Kapsberger: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek_rdlOmfE8feature=youtu.be

[LUTE] Astronomical(?) Toccata

2012-05-05 Thread Arto Wikla
to finger frets b and f on neighboring courses! And there are also other quite tricky fingerings... My old lute teacher used to say that you should take the stretches as you do when yawning, not forcing anything. I think that was good advice! All the best, Arto On 04/05/12 21:21, Arto Wikla wrote

[LUTE] Eine kleine Piccinini

2012-05-04 Thread Arto Wikla
Ciao, dear lutenists, I just tried to play the shortest and easiest lute Toccata by the Piccininis (father or son) - and even this is not at all easy... If interested, you'll find my try in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjD0k7_v9Hgfeature=youtu.be and also in http://vimeo.com/41573141

[LUTE] Re: Re-tuning the diapason of a 7c

2012-05-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Joshua, welcome to the gang! I think you can make the same 7th work in F and D. My example: 7-course Venere, 58 cm, the 7th course: Aquila's new nylgut octave 94 NNG Aquila's type D string 195 D The tensions are (a'=440Hz) in F 3.657 Kg / 3.935 Kg in D 2.586 Kg / 2.782 Kg F is

[LUTE] Info of the Add. MS. 15117, British Museum?

2012-05-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I happened to find one page of the Add. MS. 15117, British Museum, among my files - actually in an unexpected folder containing computer science... That page was the Willow Song as a lute song with handwritten tabulature. Not bad. Does anyone here happen know more of that

[LUTE] OT, but about music, great music by Schubert

2012-05-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, this morning I happened to listen some classical radio channel. Great music crept to my soul. Could not do anything else than listen intensively. I am sorry to talk here about not lute music, but perhaps also Bach is an example of that? And we talk a lot of his music, too...

[LUTE] Entertainment music on May Day instead of that so serious Bach... ;-)

2012-04-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Italian music entertainment on this May Day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR773XlyCTcfeature=youtu.be More entertainment on May Day (the Italian idea of ​​a French entertainment): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qedRGde-kEEfeature=youtu.be Happy May Day! Arto To get on or off this list

[LUTE] Re: Entertainment music on May Day instead of that so serious Bach...;-)

2012-04-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Thanks Jean-Marie and Chris! :-) Now also in Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/41307569 http://vimeo.com/41307711 Best, Arto On 01/05/12 01:10, Christopher Stetson wrote: Yes, thanks Arto. Dare I say that I prefer this light music to Bach? And Jean-Marie, I wish we had only 1 or 2 weeks

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Who wrote the ms. D-Bsa4060? And when?

2012-04-29 Thread Arto Wikla
Thanks Roman, the 1945 history is now somehow cleared, and also Wikipedia tells much of the Singakademie. But who copied - penned - the ms. D-Bsa4060? The style of writing the tabulature and also the line of the pen is something that I have not found in the genuine 17th century mss. As I

[LUTE] Zamboni re-tubed...

2012-04-29 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, just in case our List will come alive again: I re-recorded some Zamboni when warming up my 10-course Vieil Accord playing - a tiny gig is coming. My tube explanation of the Preludio, Sarabanda Largo and Gavotta Allegro is: These pieces of the Sonata 9 by Giovanni Zamboni

[LUTE] Re: 4060

2012-04-29 Thread Arto Wikla
Very interesting and huge ms.! Thanks all involved! Eagerly waiting also the intro by François-Pierre Goy in the Tree edition to come. Before that proper analysis, it would be very interesting to hear at least something of the history of that ms. -- the 17th century history and also the

[LUTE] 26 years old lute top and Mimmo's NNG's....

2012-04-25 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I just re-strung my old Stephen Barber 10-course Berr by Aquila's NNG's and some D's. There has been some talk here about the lute soundboards getting tired. This Berr has had no surgery, neither any need of repair. Perhaps 26 years is not so much, but long time

[LUTE] Very OT: photos, no music...

2012-04-23 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, someone some time ago asked me to tell also of my (very OT!) pictures. If no interest, delete this mail immediately!! Yesterday I took and set some quite formalistic photos to the Picasaweb: https://picasaweb.google.com/114782807109183620580/FormalismusApril222012 Slideshow

[LUTE] Re: Testing NNG's and back to the old love, the renaissance 10-courser...

2012-04-22 Thread Arto Wikla
Very strange! And thanks for recording, Adam. It seems to be in double speed. In my computer the video plays correctly. Arto On 22/04/12 18:30, Edward Mast wrote: Messed up? That's just Arto playing his funk/Renaissance arrangements after drinking five cups of espresso. -Ned On Apr 22,

[LUTE] Testing NNG's and back to the old love, the renaissance 10-courser...

2012-04-21 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, after years of neglecting the renaissance tuning, favoring the theorbo in continuo and trying to get into the d-minor solo lute, I happened to get a tiny gig of accompanying a couple of ladies singing the late renaissance. So back to the 10-courser after years... And that

[LUTE] Re: New vihuela

2012-04-15 Thread Arto Wikla
Beautiful instrument and beautiful playing! Thanks Val! Arto On 15/04/12 09:35, Sauvage Valéry wrote: Hello, I'm happy to present my new vihuela, made by Didier Jarny... Rosewood and maple back and sides, maple neck and head, snakewood fretboard. Probably not an historical model (but

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Mouton's campanella technique

2012-04-11 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear baroque lutenists and guitarists, I played a tiny Prelude by Mouton from his printed book Pieces de Luth, page 1. Here Mouton uses his unique(?) technique of playing first only the low octave of a bass course and only after some higher strings the upper octave of the same bass

[LUTE] A couple of lutenists?

2012-04-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, in one Finnish tv-channel (Teema) there were just two interesting programs - lute included: [1]Philippe Jaroussky was singing Caldara with Concerto Koeln and then[2] Cecilia Bartoli sang castrati arias with Giardino Harmonico. In Concerto Koeln there was a bald

[LUTE] Re: A couple of lutenists?

2012-04-07 Thread Arto Wikla
So, no one seems to know the Concerto Koeln theorbist? He kind of reminds me of one German lute student friend in the beginning of 90's in a course in Sweden. But he had hair and was young then... :) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The rhythm shape of French cadences?

2012-04-06 Thread Arto Wikla
Thank you Mathias and Stewart! Interesting discussion! There is an intersting comment by Gallot to the way Stewart wrote:. A baroque trill consists of three elements: 1) An appoggiatura, i.e. play the note above the written note first (b2). 2) A trill with as many turns as you can sensibly

[LUTE] Re: Of Mice Milk

2012-04-06 Thread Arto Wikla
Great Dan! :-) I just recorded 51 seconds of a Prelude by just one stereomice of the Zoom Q3 HD watching me at the distance of about one meter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl3rIG3U4UMfeature=youtu.be Long live the mice... ;) Arto On 06/04/12 19:44, Daniel Winheld wrote: (And, yes. I

[LUTE] Re: Of Mice Milk

2012-04-06 Thread Arto Wikla
Very mice Lex, thanks! Arto On 07/04/12 00:01, Lex van Sante wrote: Does anyone really care? Anyway with all those mice around perhaps it is safer to use wireless technology as these rodents have been known to cause trouble when hungry. However there is a cheaper way of accomplishing great

[LUTE] Re: 4022, 40588

2012-04-05 Thread Arto Wikla
Is it possible to get all of the 4022 as one pdf? Most interesting ms.! I tried to find a link for downloading it all, but could not find... Perhaps my language problem? Arto On 06/04/12 00:29, theoj89...@aol.com wrote: Is there any scholarly description of, discussion of, or list of tunes

[LUTE] Re: 4022, 40588

2012-04-05 Thread Arto Wikla
Thanks! Got it! :) Arto On 06/04/12 01:06, R. Mattes wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 00:50:35 +0300, Arto Wikla wrote Is it possible to get all of the 4022 as one pdf? Yes, you need to allow JavaScript (darn, whatfor?). Then click on 'Werkzeugkasten' (toolbox) and then click the pdf icon

[LUTE] Re: Recorder and Lute

2012-04-04 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Mathias: The only music explicitly written for the recorder and the D-minor-lute, that I'm aware of, is a suite per flauto dolce e liuto by E.G. Baron. Interesting! Is this suite available somewhere? Perhaps even on-line in the Net? Best, Arto To get on or off this list see list

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Suite by Mouton; Was: Re: Quality vs Quantity

2012-04-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I just completed my tiny project of trying to get some idea of the music of Charles Mouton, one of the greatest lute composers. A Chaconne became the final piece of the suite in g-minor. No other editing of video or sound than clipping off the beginnings and ends

[LUTE] Re: Faksimile

2012-03-31 Thread Arto Wikla
Thank you Rainer, this was great news! Does any kind soul happen to know, whether there is a modern translation - on-line version would be great - of the Baron book? If memory serves, I have seen a printed book in English some time in the 80's, but then I was a dedicated renaissance man

[LUTE] Re: Quality vs Quantity

2012-03-30 Thread Arto Wikla
is coming... Sorry ;-) Best, Arto On 28/03/12 22:26, Arto Wikla wrote: Still more quantity to the tubes! I just tried to solve one puzzle of unmeasured preludes - this time Mouton's puzzle in g-minor. I think I found something, but I am very sure there is also much that I

[LUTE] Re: Quality vs Quantity

2012-03-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Of Arto Wikla Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:48 PM To: 'Lute Net' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Quality vs Quantity I continue my quantity postings... ;) Today I tried to tube L'Imperieuse, Allemande de Mouton (ms. Praha Kk 80). Far, very far, from perfect. And yes, I do know quite well quite

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Unmeasured preludes are like puzzles or enigmas.

2012-03-28 Thread Arto Wikla
supplied his free preludes with rhythm signs. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Arto Wikla Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. März 2012 21:14 An: baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Unmeasured preludes

[LUTE] Re: Quality vs Quantity

2012-03-28 Thread Arto Wikla
Still more quantity to the tubes! I just tried to solve one puzzle of unmeasured preludes - this time Mouton's puzzle in g-minor. I think I found something, but I am very sure there is also much that I did not get: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeM2IYAh0Cg and the same also in

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Unmeasured preludes are like puzzles or enigmas.

2012-03-25 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear baroque musicians, just a thought, no tubings! ;-) Those unmeasured preludes of French baroque are interesting, demanding, crazy and wonderful. You have to put your fingers so many times to the strings to get any idea, what really is there. It is somehow like trying to solve a puzzle or

[LUTE] Re: Saturday quote: Mignonne allons

2012-03-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Your performance of Mignonne allons voir si la rose is very beautiful! Many thanks! Arto On 24/03/12 17:35, Ron Andrico wrote: We include a rare quote from Montaigne referencing the lute in today's post on Mignonne allons voir si la rose. [1][1]http://wp.me/p15OyV-lU Ron

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Le Perier or Le Charmant Retour by Mouton?

2012-03-20 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear baroque lutenists, in the ms. Barbe there is an interesting piece Le Perier de Mouton (p. 224-225). Does anyone have some information of that piece? Do you think it is a (strange) Chaconne? What could be the reference Le Perier? Some person or incident? According to Peter's (wonderful)

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ne Anthony Bailes CD

2012-03-17 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Anthony, Mathias and the List Some personal aesthetic views of French style and Weiss et co: I am not talking of some music being better or worse than some other music. Actually my opinion is also generally that no style of music is better or worse than any other style. Of course

[LUTE] Being too clever, knowing always how it is...

2012-03-14 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, after having read every now and then some quite strong opinions how it really is here in our List, I cannot resist posting a perhaps slightly OT message, but there is a great wisdom in a comment by Charles Bukowski: The problem with the world is that the intelligent people

[LUTE] Re: Violin strings out of spider's thread

2012-03-06 Thread Arto Wikla
Well, what is the density, Kg/m3... ;) And btw I have the feel that my tarantulas are not willing to co-operate in producing enough material... Arto On 06/03/12 23:40, Leonard Williams wrote: Arto-- Looks like you may need to add a new material to your string calculator! Leonard

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Suite The Moomins (Losy)

2012-02-27 Thread Arto Wikla
, Arto Wikla wrote: Snork Maiden and Moomin are listening beautiful lute pieces by Johann Anton Losy von Losinthal. When the evening comes and especially when the piece then is Caro mio ben, they find more interesting affairs than listening the lute... In the morning they are here again

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