On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 09:00 PM, Stuart LeBlanc wrote:
Perhaps a useful experiment would be to abruptly switch to a Salieri
recording,
after attracting them with Mozart.
Hah! I'm sure they'd turn their tails up at Salieri! Still, the
whales probably never saw Amadeus, so they
On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, at 02:25 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
And that is my point, to avoid blancket statements that amounted to
every
time death is mentioned it referred to that copulatory objective.
I've heard it called by many names, but that's a new one!
DR
To get on or off this
Many thanks to those who helped me track down Thomas Campion.
As for this discussion below, it's sick. I thought perhaps I had
missed something being off the list for nearly a year, but if this is
what passes for sparkling repartee on the lute list these days, then
adios muchachos!
DR
On
Are the lute songs of Thomas Campion still available in print? What
about commercial editions of other lute song composers besides the big
D?
David Rastall
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groups such as the Hilliard Ensemble
have recorded shape-note singing, but most of the fasola community
laugh at them. To bring a trained voice into a shape-note sing, or to
perform that music in any way, is to completely miss the point.
David Rastall
songs, and those who know the traditions
underlying that hold a certain amount of sway over what goes on
sometimes, but generally the group sits in a square with sopranos
facing basses, and tenors facing altos. The tenor part gets the tune.
It's fun stuff!!
David Rastall
Once again, the academic lute world shows how inept they are at doing
anything beyond studying what other people do naturally.
No, Howard is not quite right. He doesn't know what he's talking
about. What he knows about the point of shape-note singing events is
precisely zero.
But that
Rainer,
The old Arthur Schnabel recordings are available on CD, and Alfred
Brendel's collection is still available. I've seen multi-CD sets of
both of those collections on the CD shelves recently. I like what I've
heard of Wilhelm Kemff's recordings of some of the sonatas; I don't
know if
number for that? I'd like to hear it.
David Rastall
of finding the
expression taken for granted being written as taken for granite.
Also, the items on the menu at the school cafeteria being called
on-trays.
David Rastall
On Thursday, April 15, 2004, at 11:21 AM, bill wrote:
On Giovedì, apr 15, 2004, at 16:29 Europe/Rome, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
England and America: Two countries divided by a common language.
craig -
please, who said that?
- bill
I think it was Mark Twain (I think...)
DR
Hah! I'd almost forgotten about Andy.
DR
On Thursday, April 15, 2004, at 04:07 PM, Edward Martin wrote:
Or, as in the old spiritual, In a Garden, where they sing about Andy
(i.e., Andy walks with me, Andy talks with meetc.
ed
At 10:00 AM 4/15/04 -0400, David Rastall wrote
On Wednesday, April 14, 2004, at 10:55 AM, Peter Nightingale wrote:
Maybe the same assimilation that transforms what's up into wazzup?
Waddaya think?
I dunno, lessee...passamezzo into passymeasures?
David Rastall
On Thursday, April 15, 2004, at 12:03 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
'Nuff already.
Waddyamean, 'nuff already!
Seriously, I was wondering whether passymeasures had its derivation
in the word passamezzo.
Any ideas on that?
David Rastall
Nothing whatever to do with the lute, but interesting nontheless:
I was in Tower Records a couple of days ago, and I just happened to
notice a recording of Peter and the Wolf narrated by, are you ready?,
Mihail Gorbachov and Bill Clinton. Also Sophia Loren. There were
photos of them on the
On Tuesday, April 6, 2004, at 06:59 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
Is this a modern phenomenon?
Yes.
It absolutely is not. There are plenty of stories about the classical
masters. Mozart was a prize wise-ass; Beethoven had his moments of
driving away his friends and supporters; Handel once
No-one so far has mentioned Weiss! Until now!!
Bach
Weiss
Beethoven
Wagner
Poulenc
Gerswin
Tomorrow, I'll probably look at this list of six and come up with
another list altogether!
David Rastall
On Wednesday, March 31, 2004, at 06:56 PM, David Rastall wrote:
No-one so far has mentioned Weiss! Until now!!
Okay: Non-lute composers. I didn't notice the non-lute part. Take
out Weiss, insert Britten.
Bach
Weiss
Beethoven
Wagner
Poulenc
Gerswin
Tomorrow, I'll probably look
On Saturday, March 27, 2004, at 08:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am curious then as to your opinions on this particular suggestion of
Mr.
North's. Do you continuo players read tablature or standard notation?
Is
this suggestion only related to later period musical styles (17th -
18th
Here is the question for the baroque lute afficionados:
I've never seen Hapsburg double-eagles used as a rose
design except on the Edlinger model (1762) 13-course on Larry Brown's
website. Was that particular rose design ever used on any other
lute?
David Rastall
I'm just curious: why is it without the first string? Is it just that
the chanterelle can't sustain that playing length?
David Rastall
On Monday, March 22, 2004, at 06:39 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
A large (80cm+) triple-swan-neck baroque lute sans first string.
It works VERY well for Bach
was the fact that very few people showed up! Still, one way or another
we made quite a hit in conservative Grand Rapids.
The good old days? Hmmm...
David Rastall
On Sunday, March 14, 2004, at 11:37 AM, Timothy Motz wrote:
There's a wonderful scene in Woody Allen's movie Annie Hall in which
Diane
the track, but not too much,
David Rastall
On Sunday, March 14, 2004, at 03:38 PM, David Cassetti wrote:
All,
In Luis de Milan's fantasias #34 (twice) and #36 (once) there is a
quirky embellishment at a cadence consisting of the note sequence
g-f#-e#-f#-g (relative to g tuning). When I first
Hi Craig,
Have you tried Anne Burns? Anne is the keeper of the LSA microfilm
library. I can't quite put my finger on her e-mail address, but I bet
it's in the LSA publications.
Talk to you later
David R
On Sunday, March 14, 2004, at 06:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am still looking
to the
subject heading, Life, the Universe and Everything. It's a little
obscure, I guess...
David Rastall
minor), does that mean that it always takes a major third?
Some guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
David Rastall
On Friday, March 5, 2004, at 05:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...reading David R's message
made me wonder whether his statement
'There are plenty of examples of 16th-century tablature where notes on
the
4th or 5th, and even the 6th, courses can be found indicated by a
single dot.
So
On Thursday, March 4, 2004, at 06:14 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote:
...Much of the really old stuff, like Dalza, requires it.
There are melodies where the tune disappears from the top strings and
clearly uses the fifth string octave to fill it in.
The general consensus seems to be that the earlier,
On Thursday, February 26, 2004, at 07:27 PM, James A Stimson wrote:
So you would rather have a string of pearls than a giant pearl? So
would
I.
By a string of pearls, do you mean a single piece of music consisting
of a number of smaller pieces? In that case I imagine you would always
be
Hi Jon,
...are
the diminutions improvisations about the basic melody, or are they
just a
term for music notated with more than one note for the tactus
In the sense we're talking about (that of Elizabethan divisions), I
would say divisions are improvisions over the basic harmony, which
his style of play.
It's tempting to look at the old paintings and try to look just them,
but that doesn't always produce the best music, at least for me anyway.
Regards,
David Rastall
To those of you who responded to my Suzuki question: your input is
very much appreciated. Thanks!
David Rastall
On Tuesday, February 17, 2004, at 05:15 PM, Vance Wood wrote:
...It seems to be
OK for some members of this list to post some pretty god-awful
political
rhetoric from time to time
We certainly have ;-)
so I don't see how you are creating a problem.
Problem? Your word, not mine. I
of the aspects
of the Suzuki program.
Sincerely,
David Rastall
-tenths of the Jon Show is doing on
this list, as it has little or nothing to do with the lute.
Irritably,
David Rastall
Dear Stewart,
You are absolutely a mine of information! I enjoy reading your
postings because I know that even after my 24 years of luteplaying, I
can stll learn something new from them.
...I'm sorry to be so predictable on the we've discussed it before.
Part of me says, Don't say that,
On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 01:47 PM, Herbert Ward wrote:
I've noticed several Dowland pieces with titles honoring governmental
and
military figures (the Earl of Essex, a naval admiral, etc.).
The dedications strike the modern taste as greasy -- none of us would
compose a marching
On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 02:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to whose worldview? Just because it isn't done as frequently
since the days of John Phillip Sousa doesn't mean it's entirely beyond
the pale.
I guess nowadays people have high schools named after them rather
On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 06:32 PM, Thomas Schall wrote:
Nevertheless the individal did not had the importance it has today and
therefore artists of the renaissance would have seen their social and
intellecutal role very different to what we are used to seeing it
today.
Well, yes
On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 08:25 PM, Stewart McCoy wrote:
...The 2nd fret on the 1st course of my lute vibrates to give a'=440.
It will vibrate 440 times per second, whether I call it a' on a G
lute, b' on an A lute, or e' on a bass lute in D.
So if you tune your G lute down a
of these songs
and make one's own continuo part from them?
My other question is: can any of you recommend some good recordings of
airs de cour?
Regards,
David Rastall
of history.
Also, what I know about history I take very seriously because I see it
every day in re-runs.
Regards,
David Rastall
it very close
to the pitch you want.
Regards,
David Rastall
On Wednesday, January 21, 2004, at 09:23 AM, Daniel Shoskes wrote:
As an extension of the tuner/tuning discussion, my biggest frustration
is in the actual mechanics of tuning. For the strings with pegs closest
to the neck, I find
On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 07:38 PM, Stewart McCoy wrote:
...the bass singer simply sings the bass line. As long as the lute
covers all the parts, the music is complete in itself, and the
singer sings the part which naturally suits his voice. If there are
other singers who can join in,
Many thanks to those of you who provided me with information regarding
vihuela songs.
David Rastall
-and-white facsimile, so I can't tell where the vocal lines are).
I'm also wondering where I can find Bossinensis and Bottegari lute
books in modern editions. Any suggestions, anyone?
Regards,
David Rastall
Hi Luters,
I ran across an article about the death of the classical music
recording industry. I thought I would pass it along for your perusal.
What do you think?
http://www.scena.org/columns/lebrecht/031231-NL-recording.html
David Rastall
/features/f1_0104.asp
RT
I ran across an article about the death of the classical music
recording industry. I thought I would pass it along for your perusal.
What do you think?
http://www.scena.org/columns/lebrecht/031231-NL-recording.html
David Rastall
Just because one has freedom of speech doesn't mean that one is immune
to criticism.
DR
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 11:58 AM, G.R. Crona wrote:
Let me say that I appreciate that you have taken up a new instrument
in the
lute and I appreciate your interest in it. However, you have
, and my recent query about
the signum congruentiae in Zamboni, was that I'm trying to find out
all I can about archlute playing. I've got one on order, which will be
ready in about six month's time. (Six months! I can't wait that
long!!)
Regards,
David Rastall
of this age, including their own. It's like
everything else, we have to choose which people, and which music, we
want to listen to.
Regards,
David Rastall
to be a
bus driver, and not a musician, is worth the effort?
It's been worth it to me.
David Rastall
On Thursday, December 25, 2003, at 07:59 PM, David Rastall wrote:
I realise this is not a lute question, just a thought that crossed my
mind
and which I would like to pass on, in the hope of receiving an answer
which
might convince me that recording music such that the result makes one
On Friday, December 26, 2003, at 12:56 AM, Jon Murphy wrote:
TB,
A wonderful love story, which leads me a philosophical question. In my
youth
we joked that BIBO ERGO SUM - as I age I wonder if it should be SUM
ERGO
BIBO.
What you might call putting Descartes before the horse...?
Sorry,
Ho! Ho! Good one. I'm surprised you had the GAUL to say such a
thing...
DR
On Wednesday, December 24, 2003, at 02:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Reminds me of the shortest love story in history VIDI, VICI, VENI
Apologies :-)
TB
--
Ed Durbrow, or Heihachi Tagata, can you contact me please? Very
important.
Thanks,
David Rastall
I am now going to do my small part in preventing more flame wars: I'm
going to get off this list, turn off my computer, and pick up my lute.
'Bye
On Tuesday, December 2, 2003, at 07:03 PM, Manolo Laguillo wrote:
It sounds the same as if somebody would say the following:
I can't understand why you as a luthier charges that much for a lute.
You are only cutting pieces of wood with a knife, and then putting them
together.
I'm sure you
On Tuesday, December 2, 2003, at 10:20 PM, Michael Thames wrote:
On Tuesday, December 2, 2003, at 07:32 PM, Michael Thames wrote:
After this experience, You can bet I will do everything in my
power to
access these works of Bach, and free them to the world. God forbid
you
come across any
On Tuesday, December 2, 2003, at 11:21 PM, Michael Thames wrote:
St. Michael the Liberator!
Come to think of it I kind of like that name! it seems to fit
doesn't
it.
Does have a certain ring to it, doesn't it? Hey, go for it! :-) :-)
:-)
David R. (ho! ho!)
I think we lute enthusiasts must be the only group in the world who use
out as the opposite of under. :-)
DR
I'm one of the most naive people on this topic, but isn't it
simply a case of obtaining permission of the owner(s) of these MSS in
order to do whatever one wants with them?
David Rastall
On Sunday, November 30, 2003, at 11:51 AM, David Rastall wrote:
I'm sure I'm one of the most naive people on this topic, but isn't it
simply a case of obtaining permission of the owner(s) of these MSS in
order to do whatever one wants with them?
I meant the MSS, not the owners. ;-)
DR
Dear Richard, John, Stewart,
Thank you very much for your replies to my query about the signum
congruentiae. I had not noticed that the signs come in pairs! Now I
see how to use them.
Thanks again,
David Rastall
,
there is what looks like either .S. or .5. . It's also in the last
bar of the line above that. I've noticed that same symbol, either
.S. or .5., on one or two other pages (e.g. page 28), but I can't
figure out what it means. Anybody got any ideas?
David Rastall
On Saturday, October 11, 2003, at 11:58 AM, Stuart LeBlanc wrote:
No you fool, he is obviously referring to the famous concert of Chet
Perkins, bastard child of Chet Atkins and Carl Perkins.
Gosh how stupid of me, I should have realized that.
In addition to Mark
Knopf on guitar, the
out some
guitar chords...
Regards,
David Rastall
of the historical language you're
trying to simulate, then it would probably be as well to know something
of what they know before dishing up to them their own specialty.
Either that, or just use your own natural voice. That's my take on it
anyway.
Regards,
David Rastall
sounds of the East
coast of
the U.S. and Canada).
I don't know: that's the theory, but I've never heard it put into
practice.
Regards,
David Rastall
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