[LUTE] Re: Tinctoris

2006-03-20 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
From: Stuart Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:02:15 +0100 To: Sean Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tinctoris The music in Banks' book would sound very different with the veiled, smokey sounds of viols compared to the ethereal plink of

[LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango?

2005-12-06 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Antonio Corona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango? Out of curiosity, do you (or anyone here) know approximately when the

[LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango?

2005-12-06 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Antonio Corona [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:01 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied

[LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango?

2005-12-06 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Garry Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Cc: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 5:13 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango? That very well may be, but Bill's

[LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango?

2005-12-06 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Antonio Corona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:08 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango? Dear Roger, Since you

[LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango?

2005-12-06 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango? At 06:12 PM 12/6

[LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango? -- was Re: Bad translation

2005-12-04 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: EUGENE BRAIG IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LUTELIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 1:32 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come

[LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango? -- was Re: Bad translation

2005-12-04 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Sean Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango? -- was Re: Bad translation Hi Bruno, Thanks for the note! I had no

[LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango? -- was Re: Bad translation

2005-12-04 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: EUGENE BRAIG IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LUTELIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 6:58 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come

[LUTE] For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango? -- was Re: Bad translation

2005-12-03 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Antonio Corona [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:02 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bad translation of the first of 11 short stories.(who

[LUTE] For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango? -- was Re: Bad translation

2005-12-03 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Antonio Corona [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:02 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bad translation of the first of 11 short stories.(who

[LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango? -- was Re: Bad translation

2005-12-03 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Antonio Corona [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LUTELIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [LUTE] For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango

[LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango? -- was Re: Bad translation

2005-12-03 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Sean Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 11:05 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango? -- was Re: Bad translation Roger, Thanks for putting these out for

[LUTE] Re: Bad translation of the first of 11 short stories.....(who volunteers the next?)

2005-12-02 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Cinque Cento [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 12:10 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bad translation of the first of 11 short stories.(who volunteers

[LUTE] Re: Bad translation of the first of 11 short stories.....(who volunteers the next?)

2005-12-02 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Manolo Laguillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LUTELIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 2:18 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bad translation of the first of 11 short stories.(who volunteers the next?) Diego Ortiz

[LUTE] Re: Bad translation of the first of 11 short stories.....(who volunteers the next?)

2005-12-02 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Manolo Laguillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LUTELIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 2:55 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bad translation of the first of 11 short stories.(who volunteers the next?) I send this message again, because I forgot

[LUTE] Re: Bad translation of the first of 11 short stories.....(who volunteers the next?)

2005-12-02 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Antonio Corona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 7:29 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bad translation of the first of 11 short stories.(who volunteers the next?) Dear Roger

[LUTE] Re: Bad translation of the first of 11 short stories.....(who volunteers the next?)

2005-12-02 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Antonio Corona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 11:29 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bad translation of the first of 11 short stories.(who volunteers the next?) Dear Bill,

[LUTE] Re: Bad translation of the first of 11 short stories.....(who volunteers the next?)

2005-12-01 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Cinque Cento [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: [LUTE] Bad translation of the first of 11 short stories.(who volunteers the next?) Ortiz the musician by Nestor Guestrin, winner of the Concurso

[LUTE] Re: Roses

2005-11-24 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Shaun Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 7:02 AM Subject: [LUTE] Roses Hi all, I was wondering how many triple roses on theorbos are actually depicted in existing iconography. I can't find any yet,

Re: one more cool picture

2005-06-30 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LUTE-LIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: Re: one more cool picture I tried this link and it didn't work. My request to Mr. Blumberg was retuned

one more cool picture

2005-06-29 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
This one seems too rare to let it slip between the cracks. This is colonial Chile, South America, 1660-70, with plucked guitar, bowed guitar, and lute (sopranno? or maybe mandolino?) in one picture. Franciscan order Convent, Santiago Chile. Alegoría, painted by Taller de Basilio de Santa Cruz.

Arm Viols update -- two months later

2005-06-19 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
Greetings -- Keepers of the early Fretted-Fourths Legacy After two months of hunting (the web only), I can report that the catch has been very good, much better than I would have imagined -- the net is full. It's turns out that nearly all 16th century viols smaller that bass sized, were, and

Re: cement

2005-05-19 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LUTELIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 5:11 AM Subject: Re: cement Manolo Laguillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Could it be that Vihuela relates with viola? I would say yes,

Re: early viols, four-strings

2005-05-01 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: early viols, four-strings Ian Woodfield, The History of the Early Viol, ISBN 0-521-35743-8 (paperback). PP 99-101 discuss the early printed works, including Virdung

Re: Widening the net -- Viola da Braccio

2005-04-27 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Alexander Batov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Cc: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:03 AM Subject: Re: Widening the net -- Viola da Braccio Thanks very much for placing the whole picture. That's

Re: Widening the net -- Viola da Braccio

2005-04-26 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Alexander Batov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Cc: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 4:53 AM Subject: Re: Widening the net -- Viola da Braccio There is a brilliant book (if you read German) on the early

Re: Widening the net -- Viola da Braccio

2005-04-26 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Alexander Batov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Cc: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 4:53 AM Subject: Re: Widening the net -- Viola da Braccio By the way, the picture on the page http://www.thecipher.com

Re: the cipher

2005-04-23 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 4:16 AM Subject: the cipher roger: your site is up and running and radiant with wisdom. i realize this is not the forum to publicly compliment someone

Re: the cipher

2005-04-23 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 6:22 AM Subject: Re: the cipher your site is up and running and radiant with wisdom. i realize this is not the forum to

Re: Torbany

2005-04-23 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LUTE-LIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:20 AM Subject: Torbany Our (and mine) friend Sasha Batov (valentuomo fatto e finito) has recently returned from St.Petersburg, where he photographed all 14

Re: the cipher

2005-04-22 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
Hi Bill; Sorry about this. It turns out it's Register.com. Their processing dept is appearently at least 3 weeks behind. I thought expiration dates meant something, i.e. you pay before the expire date is up and all's well. Silly me. g So my domain got put on a hold and they notified the name

Re: cipher

2005-04-20 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:47:15 +0100 (BST) To: lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: cipher in trying to access the following: www.thecipher.com .. i get a message from my server saying it can not be found. anyone else have this problem?

Re: Blind players and memory

2005-04-12 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
From: Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:37:32 -0600 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, Stuart LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Blind players and memory Performance from memory, and improvisation are two completely different things not entirely. Improvisation

Re: viola da gamba [OT]

2005-03-15 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
From: Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:03:44 +0100 To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: viola da gamba [OT] dear lutenetters, on sunday I visited a little castle in Westfalia where surprisingly I found a a small exposition room with musical

Re: Mistake on Weiss Naxos vol. 6

2005-03-11 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
From: Robert Barto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:46:32 +0100 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Cc: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mistake on Weiss Naxos vol. 6 Dear lute friends, I've just received my copy of Naxos Weiss vol.6. There was apparently

Re: OT: Mar'jana Sadovska in NYC

2005-03-11 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 12:38:53 -0500 To: LUTE-LIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: OT: Mar'jana Sadovska in NYC For those Lute-Netters in the NYC and the vicinity: Mar'jana Sadovska http://www.mo-productions.com/eng/marframe.html will sing tomorrow

Re: OT: Mar'jana Sadovska in NYC

2005-03-11 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:13:14 -0500 To: LUTE-LIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Re: OT: Mar'jana Sadovska in NYC I assume you went (lucky devil), and she was great, yes? In fact. Hairraisingly so. now I really _am_ jealous -- goose-bumps are

Re: Iconographie Musicale

2005-01-30 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
From: rosinfiorini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 04:22:21 +0100 (CET) To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Iconographie Musicale On this site there are quite a few instruments depicted, from several centuries:

Re: Vio-print

2004-12-28 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Jon Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Howard Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LUTE-LIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:44 AM Subject: Re: Vio-print Roman, again we meet in agreement. My bible of historical

Organ case viols and lutes -- Eglise Notre-Dame, Andely, France, 1573

2004-12-24 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
Some more interesting viols, carved in the Organ case panels at Eglise Notre-Dame church , Andely, France, case carved c.1573. The bodies of these viols are very Baroque and what we'd call violinesque (if we didn't know better), f-holes too. Interesting is comparing the two viols seen on the

Re: gittern lute sighting c.1375 -- obscure fresco, Italian, private dealer sale

2004-12-23 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LUTE-LIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:43 PM Subject: Re: gittern lute sighting c.1375 -- obscure fresco, Italian, private dealer sale interesting

Re: gittern lute sighting c.1375 -- obscure fresco, Italian,private dealer sale

2004-12-23 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Howard Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LUTE-LIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 11:01 AM Subject: Re: gittern lute sighting c.1375 -- obscure fresco, Italian,private

Re: odd fret pattern

2004-12-23 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 1:11 PM Subject: odd fret pattern there's an old instrument - bulgarian perhaps - up for auction on german ebay with an unusual fret arrangement. anyone

gittern lute sighting c.1375 -- obscure fresco, Italian, private dealer sale

2004-12-22 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
iconography alert; gittern or lute c.1375 -- obscure fresco, Italian, private dealer sale http://bigli.com/english/mostraquadro.asp?QuadroID=193N=affresco# click image to enlarge instrument is similar to one by SIMONE MARTINI (died 1344), Italian painter, Sienese school

Euing Lute Book, England: c.1620-1630 MS Euing 25

2004-12-16 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
stumbled upon it, passing it on . . .=20 Special Collections, University of Glasgow http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/exhibns/treasures/subject.html##music http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/exhibns/treasures/lute.html plate online http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/manuscripts/search/detaild.cfm?DID=3D5897 =

Re: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck and bow c.1500, Timoteo Viti painting

2004-12-14 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daniel F Heiman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:13 AM Subject: Re: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck and bow c.1500, Timoteo Viti painting - Original

Re: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck andbow

2004-12-14 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Alexander Batov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 6:39 AM Subject: FW: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck andbow On Wed, 01 December 2004 16:46 Roger Blumberg wrote: I do agree that the

Re: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck and bow c.1500, Timoteo Viti painting

2004-12-13 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/12/01 Wed AM 09:30:40 EST To: LUTE-LIST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck and bow c.1500, Timoteo Viti painting From: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups

Re: Oldest known viola bodied vihuela guitar, 1300's, Spain

2004-12-12 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
. With best wishes, Antonio --- Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all; Just an update. To the greater viola-vihuela-guitar story (to viola da gamba ulitmately), I've just add this instrument: http://www.thecipher.com/Viola_sine_arculo_OLDEST-01.jpg Plucked vihuela

OT -- medieval Spanish Illuminated MS plates

2004-12-12 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
http://www.arteguias.com/artesaniamedieval.htm if you click the little info icons you'll get to the respective plates, in color, very pretty -- musical instruments or not. Most of us have probably seen the Cantigas plates, but little else. (about as close to sunday morning worship as I'm gonna

Re: OT -- medieval Spanish Illuminated MS plates

2004-12-12 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LUTE-LIST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:35 AM Subject: OT -- medieval Spanish Illuminated MS plates http://www.arteguias.com/artesaniamedieval.htm if you click the little info icons you'll get

Oldest known viola bodied vihuela guitar, 1300's, Spain

2004-12-11 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
Hi all; Just an update. To the greater viola-vihuela-guitar story (to viola da gamba ulitmately), I've just add this instrument: http://www.thecipher.com/Viola_sine_arculo_OLDEST-01.jpg Plucked vihuela/viola (Vihuela de penola or Viola sine arculo), 1300s. Salamanca, Spain, Old Cathedral,

Re: Oldest known viola bodied vihuela guitar, 1300's, Spain

2004-12-11 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LUTE-LIST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 4:40 AM Subject: Re: Oldest known viola bodied vihuela guitar, 1300's, Spain is the figure holding a plectrum? yes

Re: Oldest known viola bodied vihuela guitar, 1300's, Spain

2004-12-11 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LUTE-LIST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 4:14 AM Subject: Oldest known viola bodied vihuela guitar, 1300's, Spain Hi all; Just an update. To the greater viola-vihuela-guitar story (to viola da

Re: oldest viola picture

2004-12-08 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Stephan Olbertz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 1:38 AM Subject: Re: oldest viola picture Normally people like you give away free bibles. How about a free viol? :-) Stephan Am 7 Dec 2004 um 22:16 hat Roger E

Re: oldest viola picture (puerto rican cuatro)

2004-12-08 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stephan Olbertz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:24 AM Subject: Re: oldest viola picture (puerto rican cuatro) Plucked viola, like this one

Re: oldest viola picture (puerto rican cuatro)

2004-12-08 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 4:29 AM Subject: Re: oldest viola picture (puerto rican cuatro) Hispaniola, where columbus landed (and he named) is now called

Re: oldest viola picture

2004-12-08 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:16 PM Subject: Re: oldest viola picture Plucked viola, like this one http://www.thecipher.com/viola-guitar-angels.jpg were lutes (for all

Re: Re: oldest viola picture

2004-12-08 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: rosinfiorini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:52 PM Subject: Re: Re: oldest viola picture I for sure would have liked to test bowing but this thing was there waiting for its owner (who must have the bow). The

Re: Re: oldest viola picture

2004-12-08 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Re: oldest viola picture Viol consorts were the dance band of the arostocracy at least. All of the lute dances were played

Re: Re: oldest viola picture

2004-12-08 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Re: oldest viola picture ah! but you _can_ bow chords, and they _did_ bow chords. The radius of a 6 string viol's bridge

Re: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck andbow

2004-12-07 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Alexander Batov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 7:40 AM Subject: Re: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck andbow - Original Message -=20 From: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: oldest viola picture

2004-12-07 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: rosinfiorini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 5:20 PM Subject: oldest viola picture Here, this they say is the oldest painting where they portray viola (its from quatro cento towards end i think). Link:

Re: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck andbow

2004-12-06 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Alexander Batov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 6:39 AM Subject: FW: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck andbow On Wed, 01 December 2004 16:46 Roger Blumberg wrote: I do agree that the

Re: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck andbow

2004-12-06 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Alexander Batov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 8:32 AM Subject: Re: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck andbow - Original Message - From: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck andbow

2004-12-06 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Alexander Batov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 8:32 AM Subject: Re: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck andbow What do you think about Raphaels' viol of 1514. Does it strike you as being

Re: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck andbow

2004-12-06 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Alexander Batov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 4:04 PM Subject: Re: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck andbow - Original Message - From: Roger E

Re: also Viola picture

2004-12-04 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:28 PM Subject: Re: also Viola picture Hi Rosinfiorini; let me just clearify that the problem

Re: pegbox drawing

2004-12-03 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:32 AM Subject: Re: pegbox drawing maybe the Viti is a fresco up high on a wall, perhaps even curved surface

Re: also Viola picture

2004-12-02 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: rosinfiorini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: also Viola picture actually, i made the image paler and enlarges and it becomes apparent that it is simply the way the bridge is drawn (its shadow) that

Re: also Viola picture

2004-12-02 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:27 PM Subject: Re: also Viola picture - Original Message - From: rosinfiorini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday

Re: Viola perspective

2004-12-02 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: rosinfiorini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:50 PM Subject: Viola perspective Hi Roger, i just got home now late and will read your messages tomorrow--sorry for the delay. Now i only red the last one and will

Re: pegbox drawing

2004-12-02 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: rosinfiorini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: pegbox drawing If I were to draw Viti's pegbox in a correct perspective, I'd draw it like this: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/raydimitry/imagini/Violapeg.jpg

Re: also Viola picture

2004-12-02 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:27 PM Subject: Re: also Viola picture - Original Message - From: rosinfiorini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday

Re: FW: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck and bow c.1500, Timoteo Viti painting

2004-12-01 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 06:32:35 -0800 Daniel F Heiman writes: Re: FW: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck and bow c.1500, Timoteo Viti painting Daniel F Heiman Wed, 01 Dec 2004 06:32:35 -0800 The layout of the instrument is screwed up. The purpose of the bouts is to allow

Re: Key discovery -- two bridge early viola da gamba, pluck and bow c.1500, Timoteo Viti painting

2004-12-01 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
viola da gamba, pluck and bow c.1500, Timoteo Viti painting From: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: rec.music.early Hi all; I've been scouring the available viol and vihuela iconography, mostly online, looking for the best connections between viols and guitars (plucked

Re: also Viola picture

2004-12-01 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: rosinfiorini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: also Viola picture actually, i made the image paler and enlarges and it becomes apparent that it is simply the way the bridge is drawn (its shadow) that