[LUTE] Re: Liuto forte etc.

2013-08-23 Thread Sean Smith
this problem. On Aug 23, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com wrote: It's an interesting trend and I don't know what to make of it, Dan. A few years ago I went to a concert of a well-known poster on this list and the Francesco pieces were played on an 8-c lute and the Dowland on a single

[LUTE] Re: future-instrument creep (was Liuto forte etc.)

2013-08-23 Thread Sean Smith
while I tune 31 strings. On Aug 23, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Sean Smith [1]lutesm...@mac.com wrote: Again, the practicality is understood. What I should also mention is that it influences the concert choice of music: I have an 8c. To make best use of it I will play a concert

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-12 Thread Sean Smith
On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Nancy Carlin wrote: What we don't have now is the record companies being the gate keepers for publicity. The flipside of this was that x is a name on a major label or any label one may have heard of --or even recorded could be the selling point for an

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness - Poll

2013-08-12 Thread Sean Smith
I had heard some of the Bream records throughout the early 70's and they impressed me but didn't make it look at all attainable. If I might be so bold, too much flash --which, of course, sold records and filled large halls-- but didn't seem to suit the instrument. What sealed the deal

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness - astronomy analogy?

2013-08-11 Thread Sean Smith
G's and O's indeed. I remember how my lute hand coordination grew as I ground and polished my first 12 mirror. Just as I finished it (mid 90s) Saturn and Jupiter were both visible in the early evening sky. My buddy (who had intruduced me to John Dobson for the ATM classes) and I had a

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Sean Smith
Does it even rise to Quixotic? On Aug 8, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Marketing is not necessarily good for culture. Especially marketing to the lowest possible denominator. Culture is supposed to raise the listener/spectator to its level, not to descend to his. Marketing

[LUTE] Re: Big Fret Help

2013-07-17 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Sterling, I just went through the exact problem as you w/ the first fret not 'lying down' about a month ago. I was also hoping on a piece of advice that wouldn't lead to removing and more carefully retying one. Yes, they are expensive at that diameter. Forgive me for watching and waiting

[LUTE] van Eyck or others

2013-07-14 Thread Sean Smith
Dear all, Are there any Antico variations in Der Fluyten Lust-Hof or other late Renaissance wind repertories? Would anyone have other suggestions where I might look for single-line examples? Thanks in advance, Sean To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: van Eyck or others

2013-07-14 Thread Sean Smith
have it fewer than 10 feet away. -Original Message- From: Sean Smith Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 2:35 PM To: lute Subject: [LUTE] van Eyck or others Dear all, Are there any Antico variations in Der Fluyten Lust-Hof or other late Renaissance wind repertories? Would anyone have other

[LUTE] Re: Lute in North America

2013-06-23 Thread Sean Smith
Further to the cittern, you might try to access any work done by David Hildebrand. He lectures and and performs on it (as it relates to the colonial period) mostly around the east coast and particularly Maryland. Sean On Jun 23, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Arthur Ness wrote: William Brewster, a

[LUTE] Re: Aquila Nylgut Problems

2013-06-13 Thread Sean Smith
Dear Ralf, I had the same experience and snapped two .42's learning that New Nylgut won't always replace the old Nylgut of the same diameter (the second course did fine). My only difference being that my mensur is 60cm. I ordered .39 NNG and that solved it. I only use nng for the 1st course,

[LUTE] Re: In memoriam loaded gut

2013-05-28 Thread Sean Smith
Those are lovely, Martin; so wonderfully different from all that down-beat driven, passaggi fol-de-rol. As for the strings, I bought about a half dozen of them years ago and did use and enjoy them. Still have one waiting for the right place. Sean On May 28, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Martin

[LUTE] Re: Passamezzo Moderno

2013-04-09 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Mike, I understand your frustration w/ which Moderno. I know it's frowned on but could you could put an mp3 up of it on the web? Sean On Apr 9, 2013, at 10:48 AM, mike murray wrote: Hello wise ones. Lutz Kirchhof's The Lute in Dance and Dream was at my local Twin Cities exurb

[LUTE] Re: Newsidler and plucking or not?

2013-02-01 Thread Sean Smith
Arto, You see the long-and-two-shorts all over Spinacino, too. For example, in the Sidedero in the Odhecaton uses a dotted figure while Spinacino repeated uses it in the way you describe in Newsidler (we find the same figures more often dotted rhythms in the Capirola Sidedero, however).

[LUTE] Re: 6c guittar

2013-01-31 Thread Sean Smith
Well, it's hard to say whether the train of this argument has run its course or whether it's all gone off the rails now. I still think some sort of ren. guitar would be possible in Dalza's Italy and have heard no evidence that it couldn't. We may disagree as to the instrument portrayed in the

[LUTE] Re: Back to the 4-cours guitar

2013-01-31 Thread Sean Smith
. Monica - Original Message - From: Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: 6c guittar Well, it's hard to say whether the train of this argument has run its course or whether it's all gone off the rails now. I

[LUTE] Re: 6c guittar

2013-01-29 Thread Sean Smith
B-b-but Tinctoris said Sean On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: Now this will be piss me off right royally if you nutters start turning my video into an excuse for ranting about what an effing guitar is! Just listen to the damn thing, and keep your mouth shut. :-) Rob

[LUTE] Re: Borrono on the little guitar

2013-01-25 Thread Sean Smith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACsd_9dXnfM -Message d'origine- De : lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la part de Sean Smith Envoyé : vendredi 25 janvier 2013 00:35 À : lute Objet : [LUTE] Borrono on the little guitar Emboldened by Stuart's

[LUTE] Re: 13th century Conductus played on gittern and psaltery

2013-01-24 Thread Sean Smith
I liked it, too. Thanks Stuart. Sean Interesting YT: I played it after Joseph M. wrote his note (30 min after Stuart posted it) but when I got there it said there had been no views. Invisible eyes of the marketplace? On Jan 24, 2013, at 12:30 PM, WALSH STUART wrote: Sol Sub Nube Latuit. A

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto

2013-01-22 Thread Sean Smith
, Quadrivium, Music, by Bernadino Pinturicchio, dated 1493. Monica - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson [2]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: Sean Smith [3]lutesm...@mac.com; Monica Hall [4]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Lutelist [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, January 22

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto

2013-01-21 Thread Sean Smith
Martyn --- On Mon, 21/1/13, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Calata de StrAmbotto To: Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Monday, 21 January, 2013, 10:38 I am afraid

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto

2013-01-21 Thread Sean Smith
a mandora shaped guitar was the default. regards Martyn --- On Mon, 21/1/13, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Calata de StrAmbotto To: Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date

[LUTE] Re: 6c stringing?

2013-01-20 Thread Sean Smith
Bill, I only have 6c lutes (D, E, G and d) and a renaissance guitar and they are all strung w/ octaves on 4th through 6th courses. The case could be made that the descant would comfortably survive unisons on the 4th but I like the consistancy to my ear of the same architecture on all of them.

[LUTE] Re: Calata de StrAmbotto

2013-01-20 Thread Sean Smith
Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk; Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:21 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Calata de StrAmbotto Monica surely has simply forgotten about these Italian guitar pieces. Just four

[LUTE] Re: 6c stringing?

2013-01-20 Thread Sean Smith
On Jan 20, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: One or more of the great early German pedagogs (H.Neusidler, Gerle, Judenkoenig) was/were absolutely explicit on this: 1st course gauge for 4th course 8ve, 2nd for 5th, and 3rd for 6th. On my early style 6 course lute this works just fine. With

[LUTE] Calata de Strombotti

2013-01-19 Thread Sean Smith
Dear folks, In Dalza on 44v there's a Calata de strombotti. Could anyone tell me which strombotti this is? I'm afraid I don't have HMBrown's Instrumental Music before 1600 which would probably tell me. My appreciation in advance, Sean To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Calata de Strombotti

2013-01-19 Thread Sean Smith
century dance form. Hope that information is of some use. Monica - Original Message - From: Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: [LUTE] Calata de Strombotti Dear folks, In Dalza on 44v there's a Calata de

[LUTE] Re: Calata de Strombotti

2013-01-19 Thread Sean Smith
of any? - but the calata re-surfaces in some early 17th century Italian guitar books - notably those of Montesardo and Costanzo. Monica - Original Message - From: Sean Smith [1]lutesm...@mac.com To: lute [2]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday

[LUTE] Re: Hortus musarum

2012-11-20 Thread Sean Smith
Thank you for this, Rainer! Please note, this includes the Horti Musarum Secunda Pars... 1553. A collection of lutesongs on (mostly) French chansons which serves not only as a good source of voice and lute duos but as a template for creating more from most any song of the period. It also

[LUTE] Re: 8-ch lute strings spacing

2012-11-14 Thread Sean Smith
My medium hands love my fat necks. I have an E lute made from an old vandervogel guitar and Mel was constrained by the join to keep the neck join pretty thick. He offered to take it down later if it got to be a bear but I like it. Probably not optimal for most but it works just fine for me.

[LUTE] Re: Buying a real lute

2012-10-31 Thread Sean Smith
I am heading away from guitar, and moving to lute exclusively. Another soul! Bwahahaha! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: OT: Waiting out Sandy

2012-10-28 Thread Sean Smith
Good luck, Leonard. If the winds are playing too loud that means you won't have to tune as often. On Oct 28, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Leonard Williams wrote: Here in Lancaster County, PA, you will find no bread or milk left on the supermarket shelves. Or bottled water, for that matter. That's how

[LUTE] Re: Tab to grand staff in Fronimo

2012-10-03 Thread Sean Smith
Thanks to the kind souls who set me on the path to victory. I saved it to .midi (don't forget the key signature!) and then opened it in the free Finale Notepad. There might be better programs out there but for now I'm a happy camper. Sean On Oct 1, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Sean Smith wrote: I'd

[LUTE] Tab to grand staff in Fronimo

2012-10-01 Thread Sean Smith
I'd like to translate some lute duets into grand staff for a harpist but I'm a little intimidated by the Fronimo process (that's what I have and I can't go buying something new at this point). I tried the simple Translate-to-Mensural --Grandstaff but it doesn't look musician-friendly and I

[LUTE] Re: Best Body Frets?

2012-09-26 Thread Sean Smith
Frets fall, leaves fly. On Sep 26, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: Warm case holds pegbox, Wooden frets are falling off- Autumn is in the air. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Best Body Frets?

2012-09-26 Thread Sean Smith
Fret knot. On Sep 26, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: .and I blew the syllable count on the last line. Hot seppuku for breakfast tomorrow. On 9/26/2012 4:22 PM, Sean Smith wrote: Frets fall, leaves fly. On Sep 26, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: Warm case holds

[LUTE] Re: What's the historical reason for the bent down peg box?

2012-09-02 Thread Sean Smith
I had always assumed it was to play better in groups whether instrumentalists, singers or others just standing around. Less, jabbingly, so to speak. By 1500 tradition cemented the idea in the common mind that that was 'how a lute's shaped' perhaps in keeping with its history of the oud. It

[LUTE] Re: What's the historical reason for the bent down peg box?

2012-09-02 Thread Sean Smith
September 2012 17:09, Sean Smith [1]lutesm...@mac.com wrote: I had always assumed it was to play better in groups whether instrumentalists, singers or others just standing around. Less, jabbingly, so to speak. By 1500 tradition cemented the idea in the common mind

[LUTE] Re: lute strings advice

2012-06-19 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Stuart, I know how you and others feel that gut is too expensive but I feel I ought to put my experience out there. 10 years ago I bit the bullet and bought 5th and 6th course fundamentals of roped gut. They came in a length that if not cut and the remainder wrapped around the peg

[LUTE] Re: extreme theorbo case

2012-06-19 Thread Sean Smith
John, As an initial on a page can set the tone for that page for a long time, I fear for the offense taken. Please accept my apologies as no such meaning was intended. I'm sure the thumb will be fine. s On Jun 19, 2012, at 7:06 PM, John Lenti wrote: Sean, I'm not up on the listserv

[LUTE] Re: extreme theorbo case

2012-06-18 Thread Sean Smith
Hi ho John, Iirc, he was at the same LSA event as when I met you wa-a-ay back when, earlier this century. (It's impossible to keep DS away from Cleveland.) You probably didn't notice him running and hiding behind doors and furniture whenever you walked by like we did. Fun times those

[LUTE] Re: greetings with saman and ballard

2012-06-05 Thread Sean Smith
What Dan said: Great playing and I love that sound you get out of the instrument! Sean On Jun 5, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Daniel Winheld wrote: Very nice! Relaxed, elegant phrasing- good tone, keep up the good work, let's hear more. Tell us about the lute, nice shape, size sound. Dan On

[LUTE] Re: Lute Toccata before 1611?

2012-05-09 Thread Sean Smith
There are three dance suites in the Itabolatura di Diversi Autori 1536 that are each followed by a short Tochata. The first two state: Tochata nel fine del Ballo and the third, Tochata Del Divino Franc. Da Milano. The first two could as easily be by P.P.Borono as the dances are mostly

[LUTE] Re: Chanterelle choice?

2012-05-09 Thread Sean Smith
Dear trj, My first choice is always real gut but there are mitigating factors. Plan B, which includes most of my waking life and lutes, settles on the New Nylgut. I do find it much nicer than the previous incarnation. It's closer to gut's density, tunes (and stays) quicker (and longer)

[LUTE] Re: Chanterelle choice?

2012-05-09 Thread Sean Smith
Dan's right about the micrometer. If you're in the US a digital micrometer (or caliper - useful for measuring the fret height, too!) is cheap at Harbor Freight and one should be in everyone's string box. I don't know how they did it in the old days but 3 cheers for modern metrics (and

[LUTE] Dürer

2012-05-04 Thread Sean Smith
Oh my God! It's full of stars! And now I know how to divide a circle in 5, 15 or 17 sections. Thank you, Andreas! Sean On May 4, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Andreas Schlegel wrote: Have a look at this: http://www.e-rara.ch/zuz/misc/content/titleinfo/2475220 Page 178 is our picture, but here's

[LUTE] Re: Re-tuning the diapason of a 7c

2012-05-02 Thread Sean Smith
If you haven't yet ordered a lute, I would consider an 8 course, which in my opinion is more versatile.A It even allows you to cheat and play 10 course music... Very true, Bruno, I loved exploring the Vallet and Ballard books for years on my 8c, turning singers on to Airs de cours

[LUTE] Re: Re-tuning the diapason of a 7c

2012-05-02 Thread Sean Smith
Joshua, There's a lifetime's worth of music in 16th century. If you put on one more course to accomodate Dowland more power to you. Me? I guess I've been shedding courses over my years at it having discovered the renaissance guitar lately. (Mrs Smith, who doesn't share our love of

[LUTE] Re: Re-tuning the diapason of a 7c

2012-05-02 Thread Sean Smith
... it was low tension for the D, high tension with the F. Using gimped strings on that, it worked OK, but i really like the 8 course, as one has access to both. English music seems to favor the D, where continental music seems to favor the F. ed At 12:52 PM 5/2/2012, Sean Smith wrote

[LUTE] Re: Stringing a lute

2012-05-01 Thread Sean Smith
lutes. Anybody found a way to save on fret gut? Bill From: Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012, 20:33 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Stringing a lute I call that extra tied on bit a leader. If I use a less stretchy material I know I'll have

[LUTE] Re: Stringing a lute

2012-05-01 Thread Sean Smith
I have tried shorter ends and pulling them tight with pliers, I should've been clearer here. If you're making you 5th fret where the 4th or third-and-a-halfth fret would be you should only need enough tension to keep the string taught while burning it. I have about 5 lbs of tension on

[LUTE] Re: Stringing a lute

2012-04-30 Thread Sean Smith
I call that extra tied on bit a leader. If I use a less stretchy material I know I'll have less spring between peg and nut which speeds and stabilizes tuning. That w/ a bit of beeswax at the nut makes for quicker work. The other reason I'll use it is economy. Sometimes I can get two

[LUTE] Re: Lute Facsimiles at the Royal Holloway University of London Early Music Online site

2012-04-07 Thread Sean Smith
There is a tool you can add on to the Firefox browser called Down them all: http://www.downthemall.net/ If you set it for .jpg you can get all images with minimal clicking. Just thought I'd put that out there. Sean On Apr 7, 2012, at 4:55 AM, Matteo Turri wrote: The Royal Holloway

[LUTE] D'amour me plains M. Newsidler

2012-04-07 Thread Sean Smith
Could anyone send me a scan of Melchior Newsidler's intabulation of Damour me plains? The German tab facs would be ok but a french tab would save me a bit of decoding. Many thanks in advance, Sean To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Haslemere ms.

2012-04-04 Thread Sean Smith
Jacob Heringman writes about the similarity of the scribes between the Siena ms. and a Haslemere manuscript in the booklet that accompanies his recording of the former. Is this available? Dolmetsch Library in Haslemere (MS II C23) many thanks in advance, Sean To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: Haslemere ms.

2012-04-04 Thread Sean Smith
- From: Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:14 PM Subject: [LUTE] Haslemere ms. Jacob Heringman writes about the similarity of the scribes between the Siena ms. and a Haslemere manuscript in the booklet that accompanies his

[LUTE] Re: Recorder and Lute

2012-04-03 Thread Sean Smith
I should think Ortiz' variations on chansons and madrigals would be fair game. Dalla Cassa is a lot of fun if only because they're so difficult for the melody instrument. Giovanni Bassano, too, but since he comes from a family of traverso makers there are probably those who would take

[LUTE] Re: Right hand plucking position - was Re: Quality vs Quantity

2012-03-28 Thread Sean Smith
I was just playing dear old Languir me fait last night which happens to be the first lutesong I was introduced to at Barrington in 78 or 79. Suzanne kindly and patiently sang the Attagnant with me. Nervous? oh yes. She had me loving it in no time and for that brief moment I have a lot to

[LUTE] Re: Saturday quote: Sean nos for St. P

2012-03-21 Thread Sean Smith
Ach, dear old Pierre Phalese. We'll always wonder about the back story. As anthologies go, they're a wonderful pool to draw from. When we see the other books he pulled from and what he thought would be worthy of further desemination, upgrading and elimination he starts to show us much

[LUTE] Re: Saturday quote:

2012-03-21 Thread Sean Smith
, howard posner wrote: At an LSA seminar, Isabelle, whose last name I don't quite remember and could never spell, remarked that Attaignant was the Mel Bay of the 16th century. On Mar 21, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Sean Smith wrote: Ach, dear old Pierre Phalese. We'll always wonder about the back story

[LUTE] Re: Violin strings out of spider's thread (objective blind test?)

2012-03-07 Thread Sean Smith
What a tangled web we weave, Of oxen gut and silken sleeve. Cobdoggerel Smith On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Arto Wikla wrote: Actually they have a brilliant survival strategy. Normally spiders do not co-operate, but in the case of emergency... Well they have had 400 million years to

[LUTE] Re: Ford Airs de Coeur

2012-02-25 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Tom, I don't see any replies to your question --Have you driven a Ford discussion lately?-- so here's what I know. He certainly doesn't figure prominently in the first string of late Elizabethan or Jacobean composers but one book of his survives: Musicke of Sundrie Kindes Set forth

[LUTE] Re: Ford Airs de Coeur

2012-02-25 Thread Sean Smith
, and keep playing, Chris. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Sean Smith [1]lutesm...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tom, I don't see any replies to your question --Have you driven a Ford discussion lately?-- so here's what I know. He certainly doesn't figure prominently in the first string

[LUTE] Re: Announcement of lute for sale

2012-02-17 Thread Sean Smith
Surely you can make a case for it. Sean On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Edward Mast wrote: No bid for this instrument from me . . . too many strings attached. On Feb 17, 2012, at 6:10 PM, David Smith wrote: 200 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 17, 2012, at 3:03 PM, wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi

[LUTE] Re: Announcement of lute for sale

2012-02-17 Thread Sean Smith
No, not really. Don't want to stick my neck out. On Feb 17, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Edward Martin wrote: Don't you have the guts to bid on it? At 07:15 PM 2/17/2012, Sean Smith wrote: Surely you can make a case for it. Sean On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Edward Mast wrote: No bid

[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-14 Thread Sean Smith
that a fairly complex variation (more complex say than a trifling Toy), might have become associated with this meaning (i.e. a sort of musical maze). Regards Anthony ___ De : Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com À : lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoyé le : Dimanche 12 février 2012

[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-12 Thread Sean Smith
The dumpes question seems to have settled down again but I have to wonder, could they simply be a lullabies? The repetitive, hypnotic character is like no other kind of composition and they never really get what you could call exciting. I'm thinking of the earlier ones pivoting on C and

[LUTE] Re: korg lca-120

2012-02-10 Thread Sean Smith
From what I read of the reviews it's just the thing if equal temperment is your goal. It will accept *one* other temperment that you'll have to input yourself. From a review on Amazon: We specifically wanted a tuner that could do non-equal temperament (if you don't know what I mean by

[LUTE] Re: tuning software?

2012-01-29 Thread Sean Smith
I use Strobe Tuner 1.6 from Katsura Shareware. $15. (It's good on a Mac back to 10.3.9 --which is my Mac/Windows/Fronimo machine.) I more often use the Cleartune on an ipod touch since it's easier to hold w/ a lute in my hand and does pretty much all the same things. The Cleartune also

[LUTE] Re: Facsimile Dimensions

2012-01-20 Thread Sean Smith
Tom, I just looked at my old Scolar Press facsimile and measured the height of the first page of music (Unquiet thoughts). From top of the I to the bottom of the extra stanzas measures 24.7cm (10 5/8) --this is the verticle boundry of the printed area; not the page size. The publisher's

[LUTE] Re: ornithology

2012-01-11 Thread Sean Smith
The Jannequin chanson (La canzone dell Ucelli) cycle was intabulated by PPBorrono (or Francesco, it's unclear). Not easy! There is a duet of it in the Munich mss. for various tunings of descant (a contrapunto) over lower voices. Also for ren guitar: L'Alouette in A. LeRoy's 4th book.

[LUTE] Re: Visee + traverso

2012-01-04 Thread Sean Smith
Also: Ensemble Barocco Italiano (Massimo Gentili-Tedechi, traversiere; Francesco Tapella, tiorba; Barbara Petrucci, clav.; Maurizio Mingardi, viola da gamba) Nuova Era 7163, 1993 On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Daniel Shoskes wrote: Pascal Monteilhet and I believe Joachim Held. On Wed,

[LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.

2011-11-23 Thread Sean Smith
Old Japanese saying: When the wind blows, the cats disappear. s On Nov 23, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Garry Warber wrote: Why, was them fightin' words? :-) No, actually, I don't care what you use... I just am starting to look askance at the brouhaha over the EU ban thing. It doesn’t matter

[LUTE] Re: Double 1st string on 6 course lutes?

2011-11-20 Thread Sean Smith
Bill That's a good question and we should all get a chance to listen to the experiment. I did and from my experience a unison-strung 6c is pretty clunky to play. When you have two ropey gut 6th course basses side by side you run into intonation (and buzzing) problems and it's pretty

[LUTE] Re: Double 1st string on 6 course lutes?

2011-11-20 Thread Sean Smith
literature, but especially in ensemble music). I prefer the sound of unisons when played t-i. Were I to go to gut, I might find that I would need to go to octave tuning, and have to learn to accustom myself to that sound, and/or alter my technique. On Nov 20, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Sean Smith wrote

[LUTE] Re: Double 1st string on 6 course lutes?

2011-11-19 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Arto, This doesn't answer your question but I had a bass lute built w/ a double chanterelle and found that it creates a slightly different paradigm. We're so used to the single chanterelle singing that it just becomes normal to our ears. The double, otoh, sounds like an extension of

[LUTE] Re: Double 1st string on 6 course lutes?

2011-11-19 Thread Sean Smith
Caravaggio al frodo! Doesn't The Hobbit start out w/ a motley crew (no umlauts) of dwarves having a party at Bilbo's house w/ lots of lutes and things? Looking at the Wiki article (thanks Ed!), one of the 3 versions of this appears to be a 7c and the other two are 6c's --all doubled top

[LUTE] Re: Double 1st string on 6 course lutes?

2011-11-19 Thread Sean Smith
some viols, and perhaps Orey and Norey have recorder/flutes? Ben a bit since I read it, but winter is a-comin' in... -Original Message- From: Sean Smith Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:23 PM To: lute Subject: [LUTE] Re: Double 1st string on 6 course lutes? Caravaggio al frodo

[LUTE] Re: cold finger tips

2011-11-13 Thread Sean Smith
Excellent question, Dick, and one that _should_ come up from time to time. This drives me up the wall, too. I blame it on nerves. ...and temperature. Dress warmly. It's initially helpful to run your hands under warm water but it really doesn't take the chill out of nervously

[LUTE] Re: Palindrome alert

2011-11-10 Thread Sean Smith
Haha - And it's an anniversary day as I (very carefully) proposed at 11:11. ...11 + 11 years ago! s On Nov 10, 2011, at 4:57 PM, G.R. Crona wrote: 11-11-11 ;) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Palindrome alert

2011-11-10 Thread Sean Smith
I have a lute whose strings go to eleven but I suppose a lot of people on this list do. s On Nov 10, 2011, at 6:03 PM, howard posner wrote: Christopher Stetson wrote: It also has been declared by someone to be Nigel Tufnel Day, after the member of Spinal Tap with the special amplifier

[LUTE] Re: Capirola!

2011-11-08 Thread Sean Smith
Oh, this is beautiful! Many thanks to everyone who helped make this happen! Sean On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:17 AM, heiman.dan...@juno.com wrote: As of today, there is a digital facsimile of the Capirola lutebook on line in a marvelous presentation, full color!

[LUTE] Re: Pictorially very off topic

2011-11-08 Thread Sean Smith
Wolfgang, This is a very satisfying couple of pieces played together. Your recording is well-played, too! I opened a concert with them last May and thought they worked nicely. (Yes, I credited you on the program ;^) cheers from young California, Sean On Nov 7, 2011, at 1:43 PM,

[LUTE] Re: Cuts and burns on fingertips.

2011-11-05 Thread Sean Smith
I have the dubious honor of working every day around a lot of razor blades, getting to chip away at lots of materials and even playing with fire, torches and acetone (tho not all at the same time, to OSHA's delight). It can be humbling. On the other hand, ahem, lutenists should learn to

[LUTE] Re: strumming Gervaise

2011-11-01 Thread Sean Smith
It's nice on the R guitar when the 4-part harmonies work but that is pretty rare. These bransles work best if the rhythm is accented rather than the harmonies so I'd find a strum that works about twice a measure and make sure a melody on the top works. For variation I'd rob from the alto

[LUTE] Re: strumming Gervaise

2011-10-31 Thread Sean Smith
I think they're doable on lute plucked as usual although a ren guitar or a cittern would be more suitable for strumming, IMHO. Sean On Oct 31, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote: How would a strummer strum chords to these tunes composed (arranged?) by Gervaise in the

[LUTE] Re: John Danyel

2011-10-25 Thread Sean Smith
Metal strings, maybe? As in a small bandora? I suppose it would look like a tenor orpharion but I don't see any reason not to tune one like a bandora. Sean On Oct 25, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Mathias Rösel wrote: My guess is that the general pitch at this period was around a tone lower than

[LUTE] Re: Lute Music Online

2011-08-14 Thread Sean Smith
Searching under guitar will bring up the 4 Adrian LeRoy / Gregoire Brayssing renaissance guitar books. Thank you, Arthur and Kakinami-san, for this great source! Sean On Aug 14, 2011, at 5:54 AM, T.Kakinami wrote: Many thanks. There are 32 lute related materials. Kakinami.

[LUTE] Re: Lute Music Online

2011-08-14 Thread Sean Smith
Lauri Niskanan on the Lute-Ning page kindly gave a very nice little tutorial for batch-downloading a book and w/ his permission (and addendum at 7b) I reprent it here. If you use Firefox (and if you don't, um... I dunno what plug-in to use for other browsers) - 1.

[LUTE] Re: Galilei lute works

2011-08-06 Thread Sean Smith
This is an amazing source. V. Galilei could apparently write a galliard or variation as easily as we could fill in a daily crossword puzzle. I think I counted 200 variations on the Romanesca in every conceivable key (or for every size lute all in the same key) and the galliards are

[LUTE] Re: tuner re's

2011-08-05 Thread Sean Smith
Ooops! But you will need a microphone. Meritline sells one for $2 that is essentially a little button that plugs into the earphones slot. http://www.meritline.com/apple-mini-microphone-mic-recorder---p-37453.aspx You don't need the phone. The Cleartune tuner is downloadable to any iPad

[LUTE] Saltarello secondo della Duchessa and La Pistrinara

2011-07-29 Thread Sean Smith
I've been spending a little time in the Intabulatura di Lauto del [FdM] et PPBorrono, Libro secondo, 1546, Venice and I'm curious about the first suite. La Duchessa is the 2nd of 3 saltarellos that follow La Borroncina (a self reference to PPB? eg, Il Gorzanis) and also appears in the

[LUTE] Re: Saltarello secondo della Duchessa and La Pistrinara

2011-07-29 Thread Sean Smith
Thanks, Donna. It hadn't come up in the translate things and had to make sure s On Jul 29, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: Hi, Sean - Donna here, with my sixty four cents' worth. According to the 1611 Florio's, a 'pistrina' is a bake-house or mill, and a 'pistrinaro' is a

[LUTE] Re: colliding strings

2011-07-22 Thread Sean Smith
I think I know how she solved her problem of colliding strings. On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Peter Nightingale wrote: Van Lennep may have also struck a compromise based on the size of the hands of lutenist for whom he made the instrument originally, and who sold it to me when she had had

[LUTE] A question about Bakfark's lute music

2011-07-01 Thread Sean Smith
Dear Eugene, As Jacob H's name was brought up I'd recommend the Josquin CD instead (or as well). One of Bakfark's finest settings is there and it's interesting to hear how Bakfark differed from others when intabulating similar material. For example, Simon Gintzler's and Albert deRippe's

[LUTE] Re: Sopranlute

2011-06-03 Thread Sean Smith
. Many years ago I edited a substantial chunk of this material but never got around to publishing it. Let me know if you're interested to have any of it for playing with the addition of double- slide music stand, bagpipe, etc. Best wishes, Martin On 02/06/2011 17:51, Sean Smith wrote

[LUTE] Re: Sopranlute

2011-06-02 Thread Sean Smith
Short answer, Anton: There are plenty of duos for 4th apart. and there are plenty of duos for 5th apart. There has been little to no information about how to pitch the smaller instrument --or even the larger. Specify which and your playing audience will find the instruments. I find 4th

[LUTE] Re: Sopranlute

2011-06-02 Thread Sean Smith
://www.sociedaddelavihuela.com/en/ ed At 09:10 AM 6/2/2011, Sean Smith wrote: Short answer, Anton: There are plenty of duos for 4th apart. and there are plenty of duos for 5th apart. There has been little to no information about how to pitch the smaller instrument --or even the larger. Specify which

[LUTE] Re: Sopranlute

2011-06-02 Thread Sean Smith
involves regarding a G lute as a bass is a bit of a joke. On 02/06/2011 15:10, Sean Smith wrote: Short answer, Anton: There are plenty of duos for 4th apart. and there are plenty of duos for 5th apart. There has been little to no information about how to pitch the smaller instrument --or even

[LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns....

2011-05-27 Thread Sean Smith
Andrew Hartig has set up an all-things-cittern site at: http://www.cittern.theaterofmusic.com/ have fun, Sean On May 27, 2011, at 2:14 PM, David Smith wrote: I understand that 16th century citterns had metal (wire?) frets built into the fingerboard rather than the tied-on frets used on

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