[LUTE] Re: review

2009-06-02 Thread howard posner
Your plug or my review? On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Actually I found it rather sociopathic. RT On Jun 1, 2009, at 4:54 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Your LSAQ TJohnson-TBurris review was just plain odd. Thanks for the plug. -- To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: review

2009-06-01 Thread howard posner
On Jun 1, 2009, at 4:54 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Your LSAQ TJohnson-TBurris review was just plain odd. Thanks for the plug. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: review

2009-06-01 Thread howard posner
On Jun 1, 2009, at 9:15 AM, chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: Composer/organist Max Reger had the best response to a bad review when he wrote to his reviewer: I am sitting in the smallest room of my house. I have your review before me. In a moment it will be behind me. Reger was actually

[LUTE] Re: review

2009-06-01 Thread howard posner
On Jun 1, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: before you really set out to position yourself as a shallow critic: you should at least try to acquaint yourself with Reger's music (a lot of it is rather grand, FYI...). If I set out to position myself as any kind of critic, I'll do it by

[LUTE] Re: review

2009-06-01 Thread howard posner
On Jun 1, 2009, at 2:04 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: These are HOWARD POSNER'S OWN words about Reger: Nice to see my name in bigger type than Reger's. Nonetheless, this is the only famous thing Reger ever wrote, far outstripping any of his music. It even conveyed a bit of immortality on

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Purcell and lute

2009-05-28 Thread howard posner
John Wilson knew Purcell. On May 28, 2009, at 3:04 AM, Jerzy Zak wrote: Dear All, Seemingly a simple question -- what would you play on the lute/ theorbo/guitar (or like to hear) in a program of Purcell songs, if they are accompanied by such an instrument? Mace excluded, as he is another

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Dutch theorbo painting online

2009-05-09 Thread howard posner
On May 9, 2009, at 3:12 PM, chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: In all seriousness - WERE there even left handed people around at this time and in this culture? Before my time I'm told, kids in American schools were ALL forced to write with the right hand. Left handedness was not tolerated. This

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Minuet and Trio

2009-05-08 Thread howard posner
On May 8, 2009, at 9:24 AM, David Rastall wrote: In the mid-Baroque (specifically Lauffensteiner), when you're playing a minuet and trio, is it historically accurate to play them at slightly different tempi, or is that strictly a Classsical-period thing? Someone who actually danced the

[LUTE] Milan's tablature?

2009-05-07 Thread howard posner
Can anyone think of a source other than Luis Milan in which the tablature uses numbers with the high string at the top? I'm pretty sure I've seen it, but can't recall where? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Milan's tablature?

2009-05-07 Thread howard posner
I suppose I would have made it easier for everyone, particularly Reinier de Valk, if I'd asked the actual question I'm trying to answer, which is whether Milan's tablature can correctly be called unique. On May 7, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Stewart McCoy wrote: There are four short pieces for the

[LUTE] Re: Squares in a Treble

2009-04-03 Thread howard posner
On Apr 3, 2009, at 3:58 PM, Stewart McCoy wrote: Please could someone explain the meaning of Passionate play is to runne some part of the squares in a Treble (that is foure and foure)? Isn't he talking about alternating groups of four notes in division passages? -- To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: Hippolyte et Aricie

2009-03-30 Thread howard posner
On Mar 30, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Monica Hall wrote: Does anyone know if there is/was an earlier version of Hippolyte et Aricie i.e. before Rameau's opera with this title? Either as an opera or ballet? The large French ms. of baroque guitar music F:PnMs.Res.F844 includes a

[LUTE] Theorbos at 10 paces

2009-03-26 Thread howard posner
Say what you will about Los Angeles Times critic Mark Swed's review of the English Concert in this morning's paper, it at least concentrated on the important stuff. Here's the beginning: The battle of the bands did not go so far as theorbos at 10 paces. It’s a good thing too. Those

[LUTE] Re: Lute Teacher

2009-03-24 Thread howard posner
Ken Be lives in Omaha now. I couldn't tell you whether he's interested in teaching. On Mar 24, 2009, at 8:45 PM, jeffrey bunce wrote: Hello All, I was wondering if anyone knows of any lute teachers in the Omaha, Nebraska area. Thanks. J.B

[LUTE] Re: Advise needed about LUTE TUTOR for children

2009-03-23 Thread howard posner
The Lute Society (UK) has published 58 Very Easy Pieces for Renaissance Lute, graded in difficulty, along with a recording of the pieces by Jacob Heringperson called Blame Not My Lute. You can get both from the Lute Society website for ten pounds (less if you're a member) and sample or buy the CD

[LUTE] Re: playing the lute during a Communion Service

2009-03-23 Thread howard posner
I've used Michelangelo Galilei's toccatas in solemn moments during services. I'd avoid anything by Gershwin or the Rolling Stones. On Mar 23, 2009, at 2:56 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: I often choose from Vallet's preludes and psalm settings. It's beautiful music, appropriato for the occasion,

[LUTE] Re: frequent re-fretting, a must... was nylon frets

2009-03-21 Thread howard posner
On Mar 21, 2009, at 9:21 AM, chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: This might have something to do with the fact that I once had a couple of otherwise fine bass strings unexpectedly snap on my theorbo as I was using a lighter to finish the fret knot. Maybe you should invest in a soldering iron.

[LUTE] Re: String depression

2009-03-19 Thread howard posner
On Mar 19, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: We seem to be at cross purposes: what I call 'pulling it (the string) sideways' is what you, I think, call 'bending'. You're not, and he isn't. He's specifically describing axial motion (parallel or along the axis) in contrast to the

[LUTE] Re: two tanslation questions

2009-03-16 Thread howard posner
On Mar 16, 2009, at 4:58 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: 'Te hee hee' is a giggle (perhaps slightly suppressed if it happens where laughing is appropriate) Like ho ho ho/LOL/LOLFTOL, or is there more to it? Ho ho ho is a full-bodied laugh, or belly laugh. Associated with large, jolly

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings

2009-03-15 Thread howard posner
On Mar 15, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Peter Jones wrote: They are out of copyright (at least, they are here in the UK - I think the situation is different in the USA Really? Doesn't copyright last 70 years after the death of the artist in the UK? Gerwig died in 1966. -- To get on or off this list

[LUTE] Re: glueing back decoration

2009-03-15 Thread howard posner
As long as the subject has come up, the bass rider on my 13-course broke off some time ago. It looks as if it didn't come apart at a glue joint; the wood itself seems to have split. The break was repaired once before, probably with hide glue, but it didn't hold. I'm finally getting tired of

[LUTE] Re: glueing back decoration

2009-03-15 Thread howard posner
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Alexander Batov wrote: If you really value your lute you'd better never use ANY synthetic glues How can I really value a lute that has a broken bass rider? Many's the time I've thought about taking it out back and shooting it. But I'd have to buy a gun first, so

[LUTE] Re: glueing back decoration

2009-03-15 Thread howard posner
I think I've gotten the message. No superglue do-it-yourself repair. Unless someone has a radically different opinion, I'll consider the subject closed. Thanks. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: glueing back decoration

2009-03-15 Thread howard posner
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Daniel Winheld wrote: Anyway, lutes are no fun to shoot. Stumps, beer cans, and watermelons are all much better. I've never been able to get a decent sound out of a stump or a beer can. A ripe watermelon is resonant, but useless for polyphonic music. -- To get

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre [loaded?]

2009-02-27 Thread howard posner
On Feb 27, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: How do you account for small lutes like the Vienna Frey, without the loading theory? Lute in A? In G at high pitch? Big honkin' monster soprano lute in D? -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre [loaded?]

2009-02-27 Thread howard posner
On Feb 27, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Stewart McCoy wrote: People end up thinking that's all he had to say, that he was eccentric, cranky, unreliable, to be treated with caution, etc. Nothing could be more ridiculous. Mace was a player of the lute, viol and theorbo, a composer, an enthusiast, and he

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo sneezes

2009-02-22 Thread howard posner
On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:12 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: You say that Praetorius doesn't mention pitch (tho' many might disagree with you) but then go on to relate your derived size of 79cm to modern practice and thus draw insecure conclusions. My conclusions are not insecure, but rather downright

[LUTE] Re: Straight Answer Please

2009-02-22 Thread howard posner
On Feb 22, 2009, at 9:11 AM, David Rastall wrote: The current topic under discussion of toy theorbos has failed so far to answer the one question without which there is no basis for discussion at all, namely, what size does a theorbo have to be so that it can no longer be called a toy

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo Nicki don't lose that number

2009-02-19 Thread howard posner
On Feb 19, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Roland Hayes wrote: What about the Castaldi duets? What tuning for the smaller instrument? R Just like the big one, an octave higher To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo Nicki don't lose that number

2009-02-19 Thread howard posner
Apparently by way of associating a specific historic instrument with a specific tuning, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Praetorius, Mace to name but two. What surviving instrument does Mace describe? What specific measurements associated with what specific tuning does Mace give us?

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo Nicki don't lose that number

2009-02-19 Thread howard posner
On Feb 19, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Roland Hayes wrote: So much for no double reentrant tuning on small theorbos. R. On Feb 19, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Roland Hayes wrote: What about the Castaldi duets? What tuning for the smaller instrument? R Just like the big one, an octave higher Well, if

[LUTE] Re: Toyota Theorbo for rent, low mileage

2009-02-19 Thread howard posner
On Feb 19, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote: I accidentally hit the send button before I got round to actually writing anything in the last post... I thought you were just being extremely concise. As far as cranking the string up, there are historical accounts of this Robinson

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo Nicki don't lose that number

2009-02-18 Thread howard posner
On Feb 18, 2009, at 3:26 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: However without troubling yourself to trawl these, you will also see from my recent postings that there's absolutely nothing 'wrong' with small theorboes but just that the use of large theorbo tuning (ie double reentrant in A or G)

[LUTE] Re: Non-Toy Theorbo for sale

2009-02-17 Thread howard posner
On Feb 17, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote: To be fair to Martyn, he is merely using one of the fundamentals of historical lute stringing, the highest string is tuned to the highest pitch that is possible with the thinnest useable string. * * * This is what they did back

[LUTE] Re: Non-Toy Theorbo for rent

2009-02-17 Thread howard posner
On Feb 17, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Stewart McCoy wrote: There are various 17^th-century sources which tell us things about theorboes, but it is futile to dismiss them all out of hand, just because they don't happen to have exactly the wording we want, or because what they say doesn't

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic-Nic Beeblbeeblbeebl ftang

2009-02-17 Thread howard posner
On Feb 17, 2009, at 5:43 PM, chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: How many of us really follow this fundamental of lute stringing today? We tune our instruments to arbitrarily agreed upon pitches like 415, 392, 440 etc because its practical. If we were to do the truly historical thing, Jeff's G lute

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale

2009-02-16 Thread howard posner
On Feb 16, 2009, at 11:50 AM, chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: I currently have plain gut on my A-tuned 76cm theorbo. Is that what you were using on the Hurel recording? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale

2009-02-16 Thread howard posner
The web gremlins made my equals sings into chutney. On Feb 16, 2009, at 12:10 PM, howard posner wrote: As far as I can tell, if Martyn thought about such things, he would say my theorbo is a toy at A92, definitely not a toy at AD0, and probably not a toy at AA5, before realizing

[LUTE] Re: Transposed Dowland songs??

2009-02-15 Thread howard posner
On Feb 15, 2009, at 3:22 AM, Andrew Gibbs wrote: Is there any evidence of what temperament the lutenist and singer - I'm thinking mainly of late 16th c lute songs - would have agreed on? Would the lutenist tune to get close to the temperament the singer had trained to sing in (just

[LUTE] Re: Francesco discography

2009-02-10 Thread howard posner
On Feb 10, 2009, at 4:52 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: 2006 Paul Beier on Stradivarius Quanta Beltà: Francesco da Milano and Perino Fiorentino Stradivarius 33787 -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: RH position, was: Dilettantism

2009-02-09 Thread howard posner
On Feb 9, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: of course, a reversal of original art in the engraving process was common comfortably into the 19th c. And well into the 20th, and for all I know, the 21st. It's always been a rule of newpaper layout that people in pictures shouldn't

[LUTE] Re: Dilettantism

2009-02-08 Thread howard posner
On Feb 8, 2009, at 1:07 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: Yes, I have those too, but by looking at a detail, you miss the general point, I was making. That dilettanteism is relative, and Jacob is more of a specialist than most. This has probably lead him to develop his very elegant renaissance RH

[LUTE] Re: was trench fill now exact replica

2009-02-07 Thread howard posner
I'm finding this increasingly difficult to follow. On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:33 PM, David Tayler wrote: But my idea is much simpler. Say you have a bunch of lutes in a museum. Some of them are fakes. But because they are the good fakes, not the ones that say Kmart on them or are made with Ace

[LUTE] Re: Dilettantism

2009-02-07 Thread howard posner
On Feb 7, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: I can think of professional players who do limit themselves to Renaissance lutes, Jacob Heringman, and this does seem to have allowed him to develop an extremely elegant Renaissance RH position. A quick look through my CD collection shows that

[LUTE] Re: was trench fill now exact replica

2009-02-05 Thread howard posner
On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:24 AM, David Tayler wrote: I'm talking about the fakes that no one knows are fakes--the thirty percent that we know must be fakes, but we don't know which ones they are. If no one knows they're fakes, how do we know they must be fakes? Here's Mark Twain writing about

[LUTE] Re: was trench fill now exact replica

2009-02-05 Thread howard posner
On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:28 PM, David Tayler wrote: That is hilarious. Yes, and the rest of the piece is even funnier, but I hope you notice the similarity between your: the thirty percent that we know must be fakes, but we don't know which ones they are. and Mark Twain's: One of the

[LUTE] Re: players getting better--was Trench Fill

2009-02-03 Thread howard posner
On Feb 3, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: Darwin recognized that individuals don't adapt. I think what Darwin recognized is that acquired adaptations aren't passed on genetically, which is a

[LUTE] Re: Old Satoh Vinyl Recording

2009-02-02 Thread howard posner
How do gut strings mask incompetence? And if a particular brand of gut strings mask incompetence better than others, where do I get them? On Feb 2, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: However gut has been used lately to mask various forms/degrees of incompetence. -- To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: French trill

2009-01-30 Thread howard posner
On Jan 30, 2009, at 5:03 AM, mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: it's amazing to me, indeed, how a baroque piece that starts with a 7th in the opening chord, comes to your mind just like that. It starts with a tone cluster, and it comes to mind because it's famous. It's famous precisely

[LUTE] Re: French trill

2009-01-30 Thread howard posner
The server didn't like my dash. This should read: It starts with a tone cluster, and it comes to mind because it's famous. It's famous precisely because it's unique— -- a composer trying to make the most atypical, anarchic sound he can make -- and thus useless as a model of normal

[LUTE] Re: French trill?

2009-01-29 Thread howard posner
Rebel's Cahos is not really to the point, since it is a depiction of primordial Chaos. Mathias was questioning a dissonance that was presumably intended for the composer's well-ordered French universe. On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Jerzy Zak wrote: Some of you may know the famous French

[LUTE] Re: Inauguaral Music OT

2009-01-22 Thread howard posner
On Jan 22, 2009, at 6:46 PM, Daniel Shoskes wrote: It was lip synced!! Chief Justice Roberts should have done the same. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Inaugural Music OT

2009-01-21 Thread howard posner
On Jan 21, 2009, at 2:41 PM, David van Ooijen wrote: I didn't see a thing, nor heard anything, but read the news paper. It said Yo-yo Ma would play a graphite/composite/carbon/??? cello if the weather would be Stradivarius-unfriendly. Anybody know anything about this instrument? I have to play

[LUTE] Re: 'notable composers (lute, vihuela and guitar)'

2009-01-18 Thread howard posner
On Jan 18, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Mayes, Joseph wrote: I don't know why the world of classical guitar is of such interest to this list Perhaps because 90% of us are or have been classical guitarists? -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: songs of life and death

2009-01-16 Thread howard posner
On Jan 16, 2009, at 12:01 PM, David van Ooijen wrote: There's a new CD out with me playing a 10-course (all-gut) Renaissance lute by Nico van der Waals. Amazing. He used to make them out of wood. -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] right, left and oboes (was restring?)

2009-01-10 Thread howard posner
From Bob Clair, who is geographically unable to post at the moment: Almost all baroque oboes are bilaterally symmetric. The seventh finger key for C has a symmetric touch key and the E flat key is duplicated on either side. The double hole is not slanted to one side or another. You can

[LUTE] Re: restring?

2009-01-09 Thread howard posner
On Jan 9, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Leonard Williams wrote: Or a left-handed wind instrument? Yes. The left-hand-closest-to-body position on woodwinds was not always standard. With a lot of simple woodwinds the design of the instrument allows it to be played with the hands in either position. The

[LUTE] Re: Thought Provoking

2009-01-06 Thread howard posner
On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:08 AM, Ron Fletcher wrote: In the 45 minutes the musician played, only 6 people stopped and stayed for a while. Given that subway stations in the morning are filled with people trying to get to work on time, this seems a pretty generous number. The boss doesn't want

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo question

2009-01-05 Thread howard posner
On Jan 5, 2009, at 12:20 PM, Guy Smith wrote: I'm afraid that I might have finally taken complete leave of my senses, as I am now in possession of one of those overly large lutes with too many strings (on loan, but...). How long is it? If that's not too personal a question...

[LUTE] Re: Les Luths Desperaux.

2009-01-04 Thread howard posner
On Jan 4, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Christopher Stetson wrote: Further, his fingering seems to have little to do with either the placement of the frets or the music that his instrument produces. Thanks for this scholarly musicological report. For those relatively new to the list, who therefore may

[LUTE] Re: damping of basses

2009-01-03 Thread howard posner
On Jan 3, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: I agree with you, being able to damp strings does not mean that you have to damp them all the time. It is something to be kept in the panoply of the lute player. If you don't know how to do so, however, you have no choice. I add that I would

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Mysterious whatnots

2008-12-28 Thread howard posner
On Dec 28, 2008, at 7:19 AM, Arthur Ness wrote: I've always wondered, You and everyone else... to what does the title Les Baricades Mysterieueses refer? One theory is that it refers to the the repeated suspensions in the piece. Others are more fanciful. It's not the only baffling

[LUTE] Re: le Tocsein de Gautier

2008-12-27 Thread howard posner
On Dec 27, 2008, at 5:14 PM, David Rastall wrote: but doesn't the English word tocsin refer to the pealing of a bell? Yes, but with the sense of alarm. You'd sound a tocsin in case of attack or fire, not for celebration. That's in English, of course. -- To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread howard posner
On Dec 9, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Lex van Sante wrote: However you should note that one cannot run Windows on a PPC- Mac. I do it all the time using Virtual PC. Not exactly a perfect option... -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread howard posner
On Dec 9, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Lex van Sante wrote: You mean you have actually been able to use Fronimo with Virtual PC? I've never tried to use Fronimo. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread howard posner
On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:54 AM, Spring, aus dem, Rainer wrote: Would you strike through everything in a book? It would be a great improvement in many books. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread howard posner
On Dec 8, 2008, at 8:30 AM, Peter Nightingale wrote: See Feynman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EZcpTTjjXY Fascinating, captain. A prominent scientist offering two minutes of meaningless generalities without a single fact. Completely illogical. Yours truly. Mr. Spock -- To get on or

[LUTE] Re: was Galliard after Laveche, now: scan vs camera

2008-12-07 Thread howard posner
On Dec 7, 2008, at 10:37 AM, Arthur Ness wrote: This concept protects some facsimile editions, as I understand. Thus according to Swiss law, Mrs. Minkoff can claim copyright not only for the photography but for the work itself. According to a notice** in her edition of the Siena MS, it is

[LUTE] Re: 1579 English cittern, Orpharion, Bandora..

2008-12-04 Thread howard posner
On Dec 4, 2008, at 12:12 PM, Daniel Winheld wrote: I glibly assumed (and mentioned in an email to Stewart) that orpharians bandoras would have had ET frets, based on my memory of pictures of the Rose the Palmer instruments- but now I don't trust what I might have missed, since I wasn't

[LUTE] Re: Universale

2008-11-26 Thread howard posner
On Nov 26, 2008, at 2:32 PM, David Tayler wrote: When driving to a concert, my windshield wiper blew off in a driving rainstorm. Why was your windshield wiper driving to a concert? Visibility was zero, I tied the wiper on with a gut treble. And how did it sound? -- To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: figuetas

2008-11-09 Thread howard posner
So, is the angel in the upper left of this panel from the Sistine Chapel giving the prophet Zechariah the fig? And did Michelangelo give Zechariah Pope Julius II's face? http://www.abcgallery.com/M/michelangelo/michelangelo49.html To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Eye-gore

2008-11-09 Thread howard posner
On Nov 9, 2008, at 3:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look, if I wanted to read this kind of crap, I'd frequent the classical guitar list. This makes this list not worth it for me. With great reluctance, I have to conclude that, put plainly, either igor goes or I go. Might I

[LUTE] Archlute player in Bartoli video?

2008-11-08 Thread howard posner
Who is this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG0Hqi8BQYMNR=1 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Soundboard Cleaning

2008-11-08 Thread howard posner
Actually, this has come up a few times here. At least one of the listers is a curator. Sorry you had to lug the drum along for nothing. On Nov 8, 2008, at 6:16 PM, David Tayler wrote: It is with a mixture of revulsion and delight that I relate the enzymes of choice for this task acknowledged

[LUTE] Re: origin of the word figueta

2008-11-03 Thread howard posner
On Nov 3, 2008, at 5:11 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: And in Russian figa is an obcene gesture of a masculine nature, consisting of the thumb protruding between index and middle fingers in a fist. The fig in English is the same gesture. It comes up a few times in Shakespeare. -- To get on or

[LUTE] Re: breaking-in a lute, not linear

2008-11-02 Thread howard posner
Mace actually warns of the dangers of plopping down carelessly on a bed with a lute in it, remarking that he has seen several lutes spoil'd with such a trick or words to that effect. I used to have the passage glued to my lute case, but that was a couple of decades and a couple of baroque

[LUTE] Re: breaking-in a lute, not linear

2008-11-02 Thread howard posner
On Nov 2, 2008, at 9:06 AM, ml wrote: hi, Howard, what do you mean with passage glued to my lute case? I mean I photocopied the pages from Mace, cut out the parts about keeping the lute in a bed but being careful not to flop down on it, and glued them to the case. -- To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-06 Thread howard posner
It's in Volume 7 of the Garland Press English Song 1600-1675, along with a couple hundred pages of Wilson's songs. On Oct 6, 2008, at 5:41 AM, Gmail Manuel Minguillon Nieto wrote: Which is the fastest and easiest way of getting John Wilson Preludes from manuscript of the Bodleian

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-06 Thread howard posner
Matthew Spring has done a modern edition of the solo pieces in tab and keyboard transcription http://diapason.xentonic.org/dp/dp049.html On Oct 6, 2008, at 7:13 AM, howard posner wrote: It's in Volume 7 of the Garland Press English Song 1600-1675, along with a couple hundred pages

[LUTE] Re: Dowland know-how

2008-10-04 Thread howard posner
On Oct 3, 2008, at 1:21 AM, David Tayler wrote: Having said that, England was famous for its eye rhymes You mean all over the Continent in 1600, poets were saying You've got to go to England and try the eye rhymes? Or do you mean that modern readers/listeners are struck by the number of

[LUTE] Re: Lute sound/split sound

2008-10-02 Thread howard posner
Maybe we're talking nonsense because we haven't defined our terms. Or maybe you assume a clear dichotomy between blending and not blending; the world is a more complicated place than that. Indeed, I think the whole notion of a single sound ideal for all of Europe for a century or more is

[LUTE] Re: Lute sound / split sound

2008-09-29 Thread howard posner
On Sep 29, 2008, at 4:22 AM, Mathias Rösel wrote: Hope that helps so far, as for chapters and verses. So if I understand correctly, the answer to my question about who mentioned Spaltklang is that it was 20th-century German musicologists interpreting the intent of earlier musicians without

[LUTE] Re: Lute sound

2008-09-28 Thread howard posner
On Sep 28, 2008, at 5:57 AM, Mathias Rösel wrote: might argue that there _was_ kinda ideal sound. On my way through the museum of musical instruments in Vienna, I learned that in the 16th century it was Spaltklang. The obvious question would be who said that? The museum's iPod 8) And

[LUTE] Re: Respighi

2008-09-28 Thread howard posner
On Sep 28, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Arthur Ness wrote: He argued that Segovia was lying when he bragged to have commissioned the first guitar concerto of the 20th century. What was this concerto Segovia was supposed to have commissioned? -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Lute sound

2008-09-27 Thread howard posner
On Sep 27, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Mathias Rösel wrote: Once you put the lute into a broader frame of 16th century ensemble, one might argue that there _was_ kinda ideal sound. On my way through the museum of musical instruments in Vienna, I learned that in the 16th century it was Spaltklang.

[LUTE] Re: Respighi

2008-09-26 Thread howard posner
On Sep 26, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Jeffrey Noonan wrote: Segovia was merely trying to keep up with the other international virtuosi of the day (Landowska, among others ), who were unearthing and performing old, obscure masterpieces--sometimes actual historical pieces, sometimes new compositions.

[LUTE] Re: Lute sound

2008-09-26 Thread howard posner
On Sep 26, 2008, at 1:03 PM, Sauvage Valéry wrote: I already tell my opinion on this, and ask luthier about it . Any luthier on the list ? The matter of taste of ancient players and listener is unknown now. You can quote this or that, and who knows what else was said ? (same with nails

[LUTE] Re: Lute sound

2008-09-25 Thread howard posner
On Sep 25, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Sauvage Valéry wrote: And the other evidence (speak with some luthiers) is to try to play the strings in different places and hear where sound is the best (objectively, not just as an idea of your ideal sound) Of couse it depends on the lute, strings and

[LUTE] (Spock and the Birkat Kohanim) tune the tuna

2008-09-23 Thread howard posner
Leonard Nimoy did indeed take the live long and prosper hand position from the Birkat Kohanim (Blessing of the Priests) traditionally said over the congregation by the priests (which is to say, men descended from priests, the Jewish priesthood having been otherwise unemployed since the

[LUTE] Re: pre-newbie question

2008-09-18 Thread howard posner
On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: When you say it is difficult for you to turn your left hand completely over, I don't understand what you mean, Nor I, but it reminds me of The Exorcist. but if you mean it is difficult to reach around and touch the frets, you are probably

[LUTE] Re: theorbo stringing

2008-09-17 Thread howard posner
On Sep 17, 2008, at 5:24 AM, Nigel Solomon wrote: Even though most surviving theorbos are strung 6 + 8, does anyone know of any originals strung 8 + 6 as many modern players seem to prefer? There are some instruments in the Lute Society of America's database that appear to be theorbos

[LUTE] Re: Respighi

2008-09-16 Thread howard posner
I believe the remaining pieces are from the Chilesotti Lute Book (Da un Codice Lauten-buch), a book of musicologist Oscar Chilesotti's transcriptions of a lute manuscript, which was published in 1891. The original lute book has not been available publicly, if at all, for more than a century.

[LUTE] Re: A question about Theorbos

2008-09-04 Thread howard posner
On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Joshua Edward Horn wrote: I have a question about Theorbos. First off, how it's it pronounced (there-o-bo)??? Thee-oar-boe, with the initial th as in thick. and 2nd are the extended strings off the body just plucked and that's all they are used for?? (no

[LUTE] Re: A question about Theorbos

2008-09-04 Thread howard posner
On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: Looks like an American accent, with that oar in there, Howie. I would say Thee - or - boe. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: A question about Theorbos

2008-09-04 Thread howard posner
On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote: Thee-oar-boe, with the initial th as in thick. Looks like an American accent, with that oar in there, Howie. I would say Thee - or - boe. But what do Scots know? [Don't answer that] Most Americans would pronounce the two spellings the same

[LUTE] Re: Deep Purple

2008-08-21 Thread howard posner
On Aug 21, 2008, at 3:01 AM, Taco Walstra wrote: Maybe it's time that Ritchie should bring out a CD with songs by Campion or Dowland. There is perhaps a croatian lutenist available to play the lute part. Martin Barre is Croatian??? -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: videos

2008-07-23 Thread howard posner
On Jul 12, 2008, at 12:37 AM, David Tayler wrote: You can see the results here for comparison, with the caveat that this was a very dark room (noticeable grain): youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcRhaf1i59k vimeo http://www.vimeo.com/1318410 Note that this is the *exact* same

[LUTE] Re: Bizarre info request, bordering on advice request

2008-07-07 Thread howard posner
On Jul 7, 2008, at 8:46 AM, William Brohinsky wrote: Folks, please forgive me, and let this subject drop, now? I had no intention of stubbing toes, firing up rwars, or causing people to point fingers. It is now obvious to me that I did not make the case for what I want to do clearly

[LUTE] Re: Bizarre info request, bordering on advice request

2008-07-07 Thread howard posner
On Jul 7, 2008, at 2:43 PM, William Brohinsky wrote: Give me a nice tame electron... Now I think you're addressing your request to the wrong group. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Bizarre info request, bordering on advice request

2008-07-06 Thread howard posner
On Jul 6, 2008, at 1:27 PM, William Brohinsky wrote: All of which is said because I really want to be able to demonstrate that I could play that theorboed lute as a theorbo when I audition in a few months. I've been working the top six courses as an exercise with my classical guitar

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