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2006-04-09 Thread Arthur Ness
a Hoffman viola da gamba. ajn - Original Message - From: Caroline Usher To: Rob Dorsey ; lute list' Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:25 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: 1733 ebay lute for a mere ... At 12:01 PM 4/7/2006, Rob Dorsey wrote: All, I have brightened, enhanced

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2006-04-08 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Apr 8, 2006, at 1:25 AM, Caroline Usher wrote: At 12:01 PM 4/7/2006, Rob Dorsey wrote: It is interesting, however, that a piece of paper glued above the label (a rib seam tape?) is what appears to be early tablature. The scrap of paper above the label looks like black notation to me,

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2006-04-08 Thread Rob Dorsey
Yes, curiouser and curiouser as Alice said. Rob Dorsey, Luthier Florence, KY USA -Original Message- From: Ed Durbrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 2:38 AM To: LuteNet list Subject: [LUTE] Re: 1733 ebay lute for a mere ... On Apr 8, 2006, at 1:25 AM

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2006-04-08 Thread Vance Wood
- Original Message - From: Vance Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rob Dorsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: 1733 ebay lute for a mere ... It is possible that the bowel is an original 1733 bowel from an original 1733 instrument

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2006-04-08 Thread Roman Turovsky
It is possible that the bowel is an original 1733 bowel from an original 1733 instrument. ... a lot of Bach's manuscripts were used to wrap fish in, or so the story goes. This story makes my bowel move This is not a Lute as it is now configured. Neither is a Hurdy Gurdy, which as I

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2006-04-08 Thread Vance Wood
- Original Message - From: Vance Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rob Dorsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: 1733 ebay lute for a mere ... Thanks Rob for the non-sarcastic response. I agree with you as it seems you agree with me

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2006-04-07 Thread s.walsh
for those of us who are curious and extremely well off, over on mike's oud site there's this mention of an interesting, very old (1733), six-string lute for auction on ebay (us) with a swan's neck peg box:

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2006-04-07 Thread lautenist
I would tend to think it is a fake. In the late 19th century they often used more or less original labels to increase the value of their fake instruments. The instrument itself very much looks like a wandervogel instrument and as far as I can judge watching the pictures i don't see any parts

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2006-04-07 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, April 7, 2006 8:24 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: 1733 ebay lute for a mere ... I would tend to think it is a fake. In the late 19th century they often used more or less original labels to increase the value of their fake instruments

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2006-04-07 Thread Steve Ramey
I'm with Thomas. The very open rose and the moustach-looking bridge remind me of the wandervogels we see on ebay regularly. How about the frets? They certainly aren't tied. Are they fret slots cut with a very fine saw and intended for modern metal frets? On the one hand, the guy has

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2006-04-07 Thread Vance Wood
@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:54 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: 1733 ebay lute for a mere... I'm with Thomas. The very open rose and the moustach-looking bridge remind me of the wandervogels we see on ebay regularly. How about the frets? They certainly aren't tied. Are they fret slots

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2006-04-07 Thread Rob Dorsey
All, I have brightened, enhanced and enlarged the pictures and made them available at http://RobDorsey.com/Lutes/Hoffmann.htm . My comments are at the bottom of that page. If interested, take a look and draw your own conclusions. Best, Rob Dorsey, Luthier Florence, KY To get on or off this

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2006-04-07 Thread Caroline Usher
At 12:01 PM 4/7/2006, Rob Dorsey wrote: All, I have brightened, enhanced and enlarged the pictures and made them available at http://RobDorsey.com/Lutes/Hoffmann.htm . My comments are at the bottom of that page. If interested, take a look and draw your own conclusions. The scrap of paper above

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2006-04-07 Thread Vance Wood
Message - From: Rob Dorsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'bill kilpatrick' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'lute list' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:01 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: 1733 ebay lute for a mere ... All, I have brightened, enhanced and enlarged the pictures and made them available

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2006-04-07 Thread Roman Turovsky
The very open rose and the moustach-looking bridge remind me of the wandervogels we see on ebay regularly. Wandervogels do not have double courses. Double strung replicae only started to appear from Markneukirchen in the 1960ies. But this instrument appears to be a little older than that. I