[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread LGS-Europe
But Goebel has a point. Once a year I am asked to play in one particular St. Matthew, bring my archlute and do all the 'appropriate' continuo, but the conductor asks especially for me because I can be so noisy in the 'Unde die erde bebete, unde die Felsen zerrissen, c on baroque guitar. Very

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread Arthur Ness
] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute But Goebel has a point. Once a year I am asked to play in one particular St. Matthew, bring my archlute and do all the 'appropriate' continuo, but the conductor asks especially for me because I can be so noisy in the 'Unde die erde bebete, unde die Felsen

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread LGS-Europe
consulting Music Index or RILM. There are some ensemble works that include a contuinuo part for guitar in alfabeto. Even more name guitar on the title page as an apprpriate continuo instrument, I'm sure there are, but perhaps Reinhard Goebel's point was that Bach's cantatas were not among

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread bill kilpatrick
to me this opens up a larger question concerning the value of beauty - is it ever objective? the lute's plinking and plonking - or however it was that goebel described the lute - sounds glib and off-hand .. the sort of subjective peevishness which says: if i don't like it, it's not good ... it's

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread Arthur Ness
-- - Original Message - From: LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [LUTE] lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 4:46 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute consulting Music Index

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread LGS-Europe
David, do you play the obbligato in the St. Matthew, or is it still given over to gamba? It is so ugly and awkward on the latter instrument, imho. Once I was so lucky - the big hall in the Concertgebouw Amsterdam on Good Friday: how lucky can one get? - to be allowed to play the obliato. On

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread Arthur Ness
- - Original Message - From: LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [LUTE] lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 8:09 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute David

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread Peter W Jones
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 2:33 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute Yes, it is the melodic line in the obbligato for Komm sueses Kreuz (No. 66). All of those leaps require the gambist to alternate playing on a high string, then leaping over intermediary strings to get a low

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread Arthur Ness
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute A quick survey of the Naxos Music Library reveals that on the very recently released Naxos recording of the Matthew Passion (8.557617-19) the Komm suesses Kreuz is performed with lute obbligato alongside

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread Roman Turovsky
The lutenist is Soeren Leupold. RT A quick survey of the Naxos Music Library reveals that on the very recently released Naxos recording of the Matthew Passion (8.557617-19) the Komm suesses Kreuz is performed with lute obbligato alongside bass Hann Mueller-Brachmann. I'm not sure who the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-02 Thread Daniel Shoskes
My question is, who is overrating the lute?? Are we still not at about 0.1% of the population who knows or cares what it is? Perhaps the small grain of truth that he is getting at: when a modern continuo player on theorbo has to make themselves heard, there is by necessity a greater

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-02 Thread bill kilpatrick
re: reinhard goebel - sounds like the sort of comment one would make simply to annoy someone - someone in particular. if ever there was an instrument that provides a genuine early voice, it's the lute. for better or worse, there's no conflicting, overlapping references for it (with the possible

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-02 Thread Dale Young
AM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute Hey at least we are 'grotesquely overrated'. Thats nice to know. Sterling --- Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with him on guitar use in Bach cantatas, but the rest. RT Koelner