[LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always?

2009-07-31 Thread David van Ooijen
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:56 PM, nedma...@aol.com wrote: when the index finger strikes the string, it ends its   stroke under and behind the thumb, before returning to its starting   position in front of the thumb. There are many ways of looking at it. Some suggestions, others will give

[LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always?

2009-07-31 Thread Daniel Winheld
Everything DvO says- especially allow the index finger to complete its follow-through OVER the thumb before both fingers relax back to position for the next note. This can feel weird or counterintuitive at first, but becomes natural reflexive with practice. CAVEAT- we can't see your hands-

[LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always?

2009-07-31 Thread morgan cornwall
Ned, There are some nice videos on YouTube (and elsewhere) that may help you. This video of Paul O'Dette has some fairly good hand shots. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G23_pcCZkZg I have a Ronn McFarlane DVD (Contemporary Lute Virtuoso) that is very helpful and easy to find (for a Lute DVD).

[LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always?

2009-07-31 Thread Nedmast2
Thank you David, Dan Morgan, The video of Paul O'Dette is helpful - I had missed that one. Jacob Heringman has, it appears, audio only clips on you tube. But I'll look for Ronn McFarlane's DVD. I happen to like Nigel North's playing very much, but can't tell from his clips on

[LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always?

2009-07-31 Thread David Tayler
I think there really is no thumb under and over. There are however Thumb in--the thumb is inside the hand'' NB: just as it was called back then Thumb in tips up the finger tips are higher Thumb out stretched--thumb must be like a bow NB specifically described historically Thumb out--not like

[LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always?

2009-07-31 Thread Nedmast2
Thank you, David. It's interesting that you've discovered these various positions whether by research, exploration of a good bit of both. I have noticed that the lute is very sensitive to variations of right hand position and condition of the skin. (I love the sound I get after

[LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always?

2009-07-31 Thread vance wood
Message - From: nedma...@aol.com To: vidan...@sbcglobal.net; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:13 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always? Thank you, David. It's interesting that you've discovered these various positions whether by research, exploration

[LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always?

2009-07-31 Thread vance wood
. - Original Message - From: [1]nedma...@aol.com To: [2]vancew...@wowway.com Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always? Thanks, VW. I think I'm striking both strings, but will pay close attention to this issue. Ned

[LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always?

2009-07-31 Thread Stephen Arndt
: [LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always? I think there really is no thumb under and over. There are however Thumb in--the thumb is inside the hand'' NB: just as it was called back then Thumb in tips up the finger tips are higher Thumb out stretched--thumb must be like a bow NB specifically

[LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always?

2009-07-31 Thread David Tayler
Message - From: David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:06 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always? I think there really is no thumb under and over. There are however Thumb in--the thumb is inside the hand'' NB