> that chord, especially if the neck of their lute is not wide at the
> nut end.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Stewart McCoy.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sean Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Lutelist"
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 20
Hi Chris and everyone!
>I was just thinking on this. Is there any music
> that is clearly written specifically for this type of
> 12 (not 11 or 13) course lute?
Have a look at this:
http://www.tabulatura.com/Mestweb.htm
kind regards
Are Vidar Hansen
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In einer eMail vom 02.12.2006 14:23:50 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> Andreas and Mark,
>
>
> I was just thinking on this. Is there any music
> that is clearly written specifically for this type of
> 12 (not 11 or 13) course lute?
>
> Chris
Yes there is a lot o
Andreas and Mark,
I was just thinking on this. Is there any music
that is clearly written specifically for this type of
12 (not 11 or 13) course lute?
Chris
--- Andreas Schlegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear all
>
> >
> > By the way, the whole problem of basses ringing
> too long wa
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> But in an earler message you mentionned the following, "I find at
> least on the cittern
> that the damped string gives a nice percussive sound to the chord."
> You appeared to be talking of dampi
On Dec 1, 2006, at 9:22 PM, Stewart McCoy wrote:
> There is only one way to finger it, assuming you want to sustain the
> part-writing. It doesn't involve the left-hand thumb
I wonder if that is really the point; that is, one could find many
possible fingerings, but that does not necessarily e
Never having played wih a plectrum or used strumming techniques
I did not think about the 'wild strumming' hitting wide of the target
as it were,
and this being equally true of strumming with fingers.
But in an earler message you mentionned the following, "I find at
least on the cittern
that t
Hi,
To put it clear, I am not talking about sympathetic resonances.
That is a problem on electric guitars, at high volume.
But you also see acoustic guitarists dampening when using a plectrum.
I also do not have a 6course lute so I can't test any of this.
But what is MAYBE the case, is that plec
Yes I did understand that the damping could be used to prevent
sympathetic resonances (but I though this would be more appropriate
to your electric guitar example with pick-up).
At first thought, I am surprised this could be as big a problem with
unwound gut strings as with wire-wound. I did
cesco's Ricercar 27 (it also appears in a
>>>> Paladin' Milenesa Pavana m. 12-13 and probably elsewhere).
>>>>
>>>> First I finger (with the 1st finger already on the F#):
>>>>
>>>> 2(3)
>>>>
>&g
Dear all
>
> By the way, the whole problem of basses ringing too long was
> something that
> even was a subject for 17th century lutenists with gut strings. The
> 12 course
> lute with an extension was only shortly popular in France and then
> went out of
> fashion because the basses sounded
In einer eMail vom 01.12.2006 19:59:41 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> Mark
> I am just thinking that the idea of the thumb-damping could perhaps
> be more relevant to metal
> wound strings. I think many lute players, even today, damp their
> metal wound strings
kind of hinge bar that when lifted off the 4th
>>> course, the F# is then exposed. I'll confess I haven't tried the
>>> wrap-around-thumb but it's not a position I feel comfortable in.
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> <mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:19 AM
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?
>
>
> >
> > Le 30 nov. 06 =E0 15:52, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] a
> > ecrit :
> >
> >> Dear An
>>>> I don't want to get caught up in the thumb<-->no thumb debate
>>>>> on the
>>>>> 6th course but there is another way out of the fingering
>>>>> dilemna of
>>>>> Arthur's example from Francesco's Ric
;
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2006, at 9:45 AM, Arthur Ness wrote:
>>
>>> I have put some more examples here, including two
>>> supposed Francesco portraits, and a musical example.
>>> And some other pictures.
>>>
>&g
How about, "All Thumbs"?
ed
At 01:59 PM 11/30/2006 -0800, Sean Smith wrote:
>Ok, a question: is there a name for this? "Thumb over" vs "Thumb
>behind", maybe? --I seem to recall that "Thumb out" and "Thumb under"
>are taken.
>
>best regards,
>Sean
Edward Martin
2817 East 2nd Street
Duluth, Min
F# is then exposed. I'll confess I haven't tried the
>>> wrap-around-thumb but it's not a position I feel comfortable in.
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2006, at 9:45 AM, Ar
t it's not a position I feel comfortable in.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2006, at 9:45 AM, Arthur Ness wrote:
>>
>>> I have put some more examples here, including two
>>> supposed Francesco portraits, and
Dear Mark and all
I think that is a very interesting comment.
There are photos of Jazz musicians on Jean-Marie's site who appear to
be using
the thumb blocking method, but it could well be that this is
damping : a little like the damper
on a piano in fact. Well in the rock example, I su
/thumb.html
>>
>> ==ajn.
>> ----- Original Message -
>> From: "Anthony Hind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lute Net"
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:19 AM
>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: thumb o
In einer eMail vom 30.11.2006 18:49:00 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> I have put some more examples here, including two
> supposed Francesco portraits, and a musical example.
> And some other pictures.
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/thumb.html
>
I am not
mb.html
>
> ==ajn.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Anthony Hind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lute Net"
>
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:19 AM
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?
>
>
>>
>> Le
>; "Lute Net"
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:19 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?
>
> Le 30 nov. 06 =E0 15:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a
> ecrit :
>
>> Dear Anthony and all,
>>
>> at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am
>> pl
Dear Anthony and all,
yes - but would he use it to thumb his way through his own Fantasia 50
or through "La Compagna"?
Leaving the question aside if the identification with Francesco is
convincing or not - I think that too many things going on on the
fingerboard mean not so many opportunities for u
I agree with your intuitions, here, I am sure some old renaissance
and baroque techniques may well be carried on by folk musicians.
Regards
Anthony
Le 30 nov. 06 à 16:46, Doc Rossi a écrit :
> I think there's something in general to be said about so-called
> "folk" techniques and projected earl
I think there's something in general to be said about so-called
"folk" techniques and projected early ones. Wrapping the thumb around
the neck and planting the little finger on the top are two examples.
Many "folk" guitarists also play only with thumb and index, although
not necessarily th
Le 30 nov. 06 =E0 15:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a ecrit :
> Dear Anthony and all,
>
> at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am playing mainly
> a ten-course instrument) and when I came to the lute I tried to
> avoid using the left thumb at all, but: it had worked well for me
> on folk
Dear Anthony and all,
at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am playing mainly a
ten-course instrument) and when I came to the lute I tried to avoid
using the left thumb at all, but: it had worked well for me on folk and
rock guitar (early nineteenth-century guitar tutors are said to know
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