[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-19 Thread Martyn Hodgson
e mentioned earlier). Of course this was possible since both instruments had reverted to many fewer courses than the early 18thC lute and archlute. regards MH --- On Tue, 18/5/10, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: From: Eugene C. Braig IV Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and play

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-18 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
ot;mandora." Eugene > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of Susanne Herre > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:45 AM > To: Martyn Hodgson; Lute List > Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-18 Thread Susanne Herre
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:39 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century Thank you for this. The information on dates and sizes of mandoras from the source you quote is incorrect: you may care to look at the various papers on the mandora (gallic

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-18 Thread Martyn Hodgson
lin. Do we know the dedicatee of the > concerto - was it Faustina? > > regards > > MH > --- On Mon, 17/5/10, Susanne Herre <[4]mandolinens...@web.de> wrote: > > From: Susanne Herre <[5]mandolinens...@web.de> > Su

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-18 Thread Susanne Herre
rom: "Martyn Hodgson" To: "Susanne Herre" ; "Lute Dmth" Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:39 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century Thank you for this Mandoras came in a variety of sizes (and varying numbers of courses): the

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-18 Thread Martyn Hodgson
composed a mandolin concerto... Did he compose anything for mandora...? Kind regards, Susanne - Original Message - From: [1]Martyn Hodgson To: [2]Lute List ; [3]Susanne Herre Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-17 Thread Monica Hall
e" Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century Many thanks again for this latest. I hope you won't mind if I continue the discussion in this interesting area. What comes out of all this is that, leaving to

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-17 Thread Susanne Herre
ginal Message - From: [1]Martyn Hodgson To: [2]Lute List ; [3]Susanne Herre Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century Many thanks again for this latest. I hope you won't mind if I continue the

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-17 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
> -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of Martyn Hodgson > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:50 AM > To: Lute Dmth; Susanne Herre > Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th centu

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-17 Thread Martyn Hodgson
we commonly try to practice nowadays. rgds MH --- On Mon, 17/5/10, Susanne Herre wrote: From: Susanne Herre Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century To: "Martyn Hodgson" , "Lute List" Date: Monday, 17

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-17 Thread Monica Hall
Lelio Colista played the baroque guitar and composed some music for it. Monica - Original Message - From: "Susanne Herre" To: "Martyn Hodgson" ; "Lute List" Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:51 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in it

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-17 Thread Susanne Herre
h Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century Many thanks for this. It as an interesting and largely unexplored area which I think we both feel needs much more good research. Regarding the names you list,

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
aly... I have the Dalla Casa and the Tyler, thanks! All the best, Susanne - Original Message - From: "Martyn Hodgson" <[1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> To: "Lute Dmth" <[2]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu>; "Susanne Herre" <[3]mandolinens...@web.d

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-16 Thread Susanne Herre
g about Italy... I have the Dalla Casa and the Tyler, thanks! All the best, Susanne - Original Message - From: "Martyn Hodgson" To: "Lute Dmth" ; "Susanne Herre" Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:50 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing techn

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I'm not sure it's quite right to say that lute and theorbo players were the ones who 'often' played mandolin because a few may be recorded. What's the evidence for this? What named players ('court musicians') do you have in mind? Did not violinists play the mandolin, especially the

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-15 Thread Susanne Herre
Dear Davide, Thanks! About the use of the quill: I think we can't be sure if they didn't use it before the neapolitan mandolin became popular. The lute in middle ages was also played with a quill as well as the mandore in the renaissance. The quill could have been very useful in chamber music a

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-15 Thread Susanne Herre
Dear Martyn, Thank you, that is interesting indeed! Yes, in fact I wanted to understand how the "common lutenists/theorbists" played etc. because it was often them who played the mandolin. Often we find that e.g. theorbo players of a court also played mandolin. It was

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-15 Thread Edward Martin
"Eugene C. Braig IV" >Cc: "'Nancy Carlin'" ; "'Lute List'" > >Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:02 AM >Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century > > >>Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: >>>It was

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-15 Thread Susanne Herre
t;Stuart Walsh" To: "Eugene C. Braig IV" Cc: "'Nancy Carlin'" ; "'Lute List'" Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:02 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: It was made by the s

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-14 Thread Susanne Herre
Thank you also, Martyn! I will answer you soon as well. Kind regards, Susanne - Original Message - From: "Martyn Hodgson" To: "Lute List" ; "Susanne Herre" Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:00 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-14 Thread Susanne Herre
Thank you very much for your comments and links, Eugene! I will answer you soon. Kind regards, Susanne - Original Message - From: "Eugene C. Braig IV" To: "'Susanne Herre'" ; "'Lute List'" Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 4:24 PM Subject: RE: [LUTE] lute music and playing technique i

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-14 Thread Martyn Hodgson
If you mean the lute proper, rather than instruments like the mandolin, there is no significant music in tablature after Zamboni (1718). There are, of course, the Vivaldi pieces with 'liuto' in staff notation which seem to require the old G (or A) lute which, as outlined below, seems

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-13 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
> -Original Message- > From: Stuart Walsh [mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:02 PM > To: Eugene C. Braig IV > Cc: 'Nancy Carlin'; 'Lute List' > Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th &

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-13 Thread Stuart Walsh
-Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Nancy Carlin Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:46 PM To: 'Lute List' Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century That looks like a nice mandolin i

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-13 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
7;; 'Lute List' > Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century > > It was made by the semi-infamous Luciano Faria. Feel free to contact me > directly if you'd like details of the instrument itself. > > I play the dedicated repertoire fo

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-13 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
ubject: [LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century > >That looks like a nice mandolin in the picture. Who made it and what >kind of music do you play on it? >Nancy >At 07:24 AM 5/13/2010, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: > > Almost n

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-13 Thread Nancy Carlin
That looks like a nice mandolin in the picture. Who made it and what kind of music do you play on it? Nancy At 07:24 AM 5/13/2010, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: Almost nothing is documented on playing technique of 4th-tuned mandolin/o other than iconography, and techniques s

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-13 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Almost nothing is documented on playing technique of 4th-tuned mandolin/o other than iconography, and techniques so portrayed can pretty diverse looking. One of the clearest and most performance-ready painting from the mid 1700s is Longhi's "Little concert." It shows a pair of ladies playing 5-c