: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?
Hello all,
I don't want to get caught up in the thumb--no thumb debate on
the
6th course but there is another way out of the fingering dilemna
of
Arthur's example from Francesco's Ricercar 27 (it also appears
On Dec 1, 2006, at 9:22 PM, Stewart McCoy wrote:
There is only one way to finger it, assuming you want to sustain the
part-writing. It doesn't involve the left-hand thumb
I wonder if that is really the point; that is, one could find many
possible fingerings, but that does not necessarily
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But in an earler message you mentionned the following, I find at
least on the cittern
that the damped string gives a nice percussive sound to the chord.
You appeared to be talking of damping
Andreas and Mark,
I was just thinking on this. Is there any music
that is clearly written specifically for this type of
12 (not 11 or 13) course lute?
Chris
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Dear all
By the way, the whole problem of basses ringing
too long was
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Andreas and Mark,
I was just thinking on this. Is there any music
that is clearly written specifically for this type of
12 (not 11 or 13) course lute?
Chris
Yes there is a lot of
Hi Chris and everyone!
I was just thinking on this. Is there any music
that is clearly written specifically for this type of
12 (not 11 or 13) course lute?
Have a look at this:
http://www.tabulatura.com/Mestweb.htm
kind regards
Are Vidar Hansen
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: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:19 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?
Le 30 nov. 06 =E0 15:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a
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Dear Anthony and all,
at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am
playing mainly
a ten-course instrument) and when I came to the lute
I tried to
avoid
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?
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Dear Anthony and all,
at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am
playing mainly
a ten-course instrument) and when I came to the lute
I tried to
avoid using
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Dear Anthony and all,
at the moment I do
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Mark
I am just thinking that the idea of the thumb-damping could perhaps
be more relevant to metal
wound strings. I think many lute players, even today, damp their
metal wound strings
Dear all
By the way, the whole problem of basses ringing too long was
something that
even was a subject for 17th century lutenists with gut strings. The
12 course
lute with an extension was only shortly popular in France and then
went out of
fashion because the basses sounded too
pictures.
http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/thumb.html
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?
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Yes I did understand that the damping could be used to prevent
sympathetic resonances (but I though this would be more appropriate
to your electric guitar example with pick-up).
At first thought, I am surprised this could be as big a problem with
unwound gut strings as with wire-wound. I did
Hi,
To put it clear, I am not talking about sympathetic resonances.
That is a problem on electric guitars, at high volume.
But you also see acoustic guitarists dampening when using a plectrum.
I also do not have a 6course lute so I can't test any of this.
But what is MAYBE the case, is that
Never having played wih a plectrum or used strumming techniques
I did not think about the 'wild strumming' hitting wide of the target
as it were,
and this being equally true of strumming with fingers.
But in an earler message you mentionned the following, I find at
least on the cittern
that
Dear Anthony and all,
at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am playing mainly a
ten-course instrument) and when I came to the lute I tried to avoid
using the left thumb at all, but: it had worked well for me on folk and
rock guitar (early nineteenth-century guitar tutors are said to
Le 30 nov. 06 =E0 15:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a ecrit :
Dear Anthony and all,
at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am playing mainly
a ten-course instrument) and when I came to the lute I tried to
avoid using the left thumb at all, but: it had worked well for me
on folk and
I think there's something in general to be said about so-called
folk techniques and projected early ones. Wrapping the thumb around
the neck and planting the little finger on the top are two examples.
Many folk guitarists also play only with thumb and index, although
not necessarily thumb
I agree with your intuitions, here, I am sure some old renaissance
and baroque techniques may well be carried on by folk musicians.
Regards
Anthony
Le 30 nov. 06 à 16:46, Doc Rossi a écrit :
I think there's something in general to be said about so-called
folk techniques and projected early
Dear Anthony and all,
yes - but would he use it to thumb his way through his own Fantasia 50
or through La Compagna?
Leaving the question aside if the identification with Francesco is
convincing or not - I think that too many things going on on the
fingerboard mean not so many opportunities for
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Dear Anthony and all,
at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am
playing mainly
a ten-course instrument) and when I came to the lute
I
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Dear Anthony and all,
at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am
playing
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I have put some more examples here, including two
supposed Francesco portraits, and a musical example.
And some other pictures.
http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/thumb.html
I am not sure
: [LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?
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Dear Anthony and all,
at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am
playing mainly
a ten-course instrument) and when I came to the lute
I tried to
avoid using the left thumb at all, but: it had worked
Dear Mark and all
I think that is a very interesting comment.
There are photos of Jazz musicians on Jean-Marie's site who appear to
be using
the thumb blocking method, but it could well be that this is
damping : a little like the damper
on a piano in fact. Well in the rock example, I
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Dear Anthony and all,
at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am
playing mainly
a ten-course instrument) and when I
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Dear Anthony and all,
at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am
playing mainly
a ten-course instrument
How about, All Thumbs?
ed
At 01:59 PM 11/30/2006 -0800, Sean Smith wrote:
Ok, a question: is there a name for this? Thumb over vs Thumb
behind, maybe? --I seem to recall that Thumb out and Thumb under
are taken.
best regards,
Sean
Edward Martin
2817 East 2nd Street
Duluth, Minnesota 55812
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Dear Anthony and all,
at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am
playing mainly
a ten-course
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