s clear.
[1]http://media10.dropshots.com/photos/224074/20130201/145654.jpg
Bill
From: Martyn Hodgson
To: William Samson
Cc: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"
Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 8:52
Subject: [LUTE] Re: chitarra italiana
Dear Bill,
I'd love to
Dear Bill,
I'd love to see this pic of a big mandore - but get a message saying
the web page is unavailable.
rgds
Martyn
--- On Fri, 1/2/13, William Samson wrote:
From: William Samson
Subject: [LUTE] Re: chitarra italiana
To: "Roman Turovsky"
;
"lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013, 17:57
Subject: [LUTE] Re: chitarra italiana
Another interesting axe -
[2]http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/481778_397278697013322_29
3428185_n.jpg
RT
On 1/31/2013 5:54 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
>
ed an interesting chitarra italiana image from a
youtube video:
http://polyhymnion.org/mus/chitarra-it.jpg
RT
Very interesting Any idea of the date/provenance? It looks like
five-course (and definitely not re-entrant) and cittern-like peg box.
Odd-looking left-hand position.
I still
ion that any Italian lute
shaped instrument with 4 (and now 5 ) courses is being regarded by some
as the 'chitarra' or even the 'Chitarra Italiana' named in early
sources. I don't know, but suggest a bit of caution.
Regarding the much later mandora/gallichon: t
raightforward to play.
And if the chitarra italiana was flourishing in the 1620s the same
thing was happening. The lute was then sprouting more bass strings and
(I'm not sure about the Italian states) experimenting with new
tunings. So the chitarra was a simpler option of the time?
Ho
he Baroque lute was a bit of a monster and
(it is often suggested) the mandora/gallichon was just a bit more
straightforward to play.
And if the chitarra italiana was flourishing in the 1620s the same thing
was happening. The lute was then sprouting more bass strings and (I'm
suggests, music can be played on any instrument
with the requisite number of courses and tuning.
Bill
From: Monica Hall
To: WALSH STUART
Cc: Lutelist
Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 22:33
Subject: [LUTE] Re: chitarra italiana
> I still don't understand that
beats me.
RT
On 1/31/2013 5:24 PM, WALSH STUART wrote:
On 31/01/2013 22:03, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
I've extracted an interesting chitarra italiana image from a youtube
video:
http://polyhymnion.org/mus/chitarra-it.jpg
RT
Very interesting Any idea of the date/provenanc
I still don't understand that if this is a 'chitarra' and chitarra
relates to what other places called 'gittern' (with all the spelling
variants), how these things are this big?
Like Topsy - it just grew!
Monica
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On 31/01/2013 22:03, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
I've extracted an interesting chitarra italiana image from a youtube
video:
http://polyhymnion.org/mus/chitarra-it.jpg
RT
Very interesting Any idea of the date/provenance? It looks like
five-course (and definitely not re-entrant
I've extracted an interesting chitarra italiana image from a youtube video:
http://polyhymnion.org/mus/chitarra-it.jpg
RT
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Thanks to all who have contributed, I was put on the right track and I have
found the Italiana I was looking for (nr.60 in Chiselotti's book, for those
of you who send me other pieces and are wondering what I was after).
David
*
David van Ooijen
Dear all,
Just a small bit of information, but it might be of
interest to some of you. There is a facsimile edition
of the Italiana in question, published by Chilesotti
himself. It can be found in his article on notation
that appeared in the
Encyclopédie de la Musique et Dictionnaire du
In my previous post, I was perhaps incorrect.. Matanya's edition is
actually a re-creation of the original 1890 Chilesotti book, and I think
his intent was not only for guitarists, but also lutenists in pitch notation.
Please see:
http://www.orphee.com/Lute/codice.html
ed
At 09:51 AM 1
Yes, Dick's book is quite nice. However, for those who like to read guitar
notation (that does not include me), Mayanya has recently published the
book fro guitarists.
ed
At 09:51 AM 1/2/04 -0800, Howard Posner wrote:
>The previous posts answering David's question have not made clear that the
That's the transcription I meant - I always confuse which editions are
made by Dick and which by Richard
(Silver Sound and lyre - or vice versa?)
All th ebest
Thomas
Am Fre, 2004-01-02 um 18.14 schrieb Arto Wikla:
> Dear David and Thomas,
>
> Thomas wrote to David:
>
> > you will find most of
"LGS-Europe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> Can somebody point me to the source of Respighi's lute arrangements? I'm
> specifically looking for the charming piece called 'Italiana':
>
> r r a | |
> ___
> d d r | d arda|
>
The previous posts answering David's question have not made clear that the
original of "da un codice" is not available and hasn't been for many years.
Dick Hoban's version is a re-intabulation from Chilesotti's book.
HP
Dear David and Thomas,
Thomas wrote to David:
> you will find most of the music which Respighi used for his suite in
> Chilesotti's "da un codice". You may find a link for a transcription
> into frensh tab on the site of the LSA.
And also Dick Hoban's Lyre has published a version of "da un codi
d all seems quiet. Best wishes for 2004.
>
> Can somebody point me to the source of Respighi's lute arrangements? I'm
> specifically looking for the charming piece called 'Italiana':
>
> r r a | |
> ___
> d d r | d arda|
&
I'm back and all seems quiet. Best wishes for 2004.
Can somebody point me to the source of Respighi's lute arrangements? I'm specifically
looking for the charming piece called 'Italiana':
r r a | |
___
d d r | d arda|
___
d d d | a |
I just read Renato's aricle and I found it totally convincing. Morover:
Moroccan Kiutra as the descendant of this Chitarra italiana now makes a lot
of sense.
RT
Davide Rebuffa scripsit:
> the article was written by the organologist Renato Meucci.
> It was published in a book:
> &
Dear Roman,
the article was written by the organologist Renato Meucci.
It was published in a book:
Enrico Radesca di Foggia ei l suo tempo ( atti del Convegno di studi, Foggia
7-8 Aprile 2000)
a cura di Francesca Seller - ed. LIM 2O01
If you want I can send you a photocopy of it.
best wishes,
Dav
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