[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
/ === - Original Message - From: Jean-Marie Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 2:05 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes | Dear Eric, | | Thank you for these precisions about your transcriptions of Wilson's

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-08 Thread Gmail Manuel Minguillon Nieto
: [LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Jean-Marie Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for these precisions about your transcriptions of Wilson's preludes, but I think what Arthur meant was that M. Spring's transcription edited by Diapason Press was difficult

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-08 Thread Arthur Ness
/arthurjnesslutescores/ Other Matters: http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/ === - Original Message - From: Jean-Marie Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 2:05 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: John Wilson

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-08 Thread Arthur Ness
PROTECTED]; lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:23 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes | Hello, Jean-Marie! | | No, it is the facsimile that is too small to read. The transcriptions | need some tweaking, also. | | The edition seems not to have been managed well

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear Eric, Thank you for these precisions about your transcriptions of Wilson's preludes, but I think what Arthur meant was that M. Spring's transcription edited by Diapason Press was difficult to read, not the facsimile... Best, Jean-Marie === 06-10-2008 22:51:11 === My reason

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-07 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Jean-Marie Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for these precisions about your transcriptions of Wilson's preludes, but I think what Arthur meant was that M. Spring's transcription edited by Diapason Press was difficult to read, not the facsimile... I

[LUTE] John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-06 Thread Gmail Manuel Minguillon Nieto
Dear Lute wisdom, Which is the fastest and easiest way of getting John Wilson Preludes from manuscript of the Bodleian Library, Mus. B. 1? Thanks a lot in advance. Manuel Minguillon -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-06 Thread howard posner
It's in Volume 7 of the Garland Press English Song 1600-1675, along with a couple hundred pages of Wilson's songs. On Oct 6, 2008, at 5:41 AM, Gmail Manuel Minguillon Nieto wrote: Which is the fastest and easiest way of getting John Wilson Preludes from manuscript of the Bodleian Library

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-06 Thread howard posner
of Wilson's songs. On Oct 6, 2008, at 5:41 AM, Gmail Manuel Minguillon Nieto wrote: Which is the fastest and easiest way of getting John Wilson Preludes from manuscript of the Bodleian Library, Mus. B. 1? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
.html On Oct 6, 2008, at 7:13 AM, howard posner wrote: It's in Volume 7 of the Garland Press English Song 1600-1675, along with a couple hundred pages of Wilson's songs. On Oct 6, 2008, at 5:41 AM, Gmail Manuel Minguillon Nieto wrote: Which is the fastest and easiest way of getting John

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-06 Thread Arthur Ness
:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes | Thank you for the tip, Howard, but I must say that is one of the most impractical sites I have ever visited online :-( ! . I could not find out how it worked and how you could order anything from them. Eventually I wrote to the address indicated

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-06 Thread Greet Schamp
PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 6 oktober 2008 14:41 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] John Wilson Preludes Dear Lute wisdom, Which is the fastest and easiest way of getting John Wilson Preludes from manuscript of the Bodleian Library, Mus. B. 1? Thanks a lot in advance

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2008-10-06 Thread Eric Crouch
Minguillon Nieto [[4]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 6 oktober 2008 14:41 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: [LUTE] John Wilson Preludes Dear Lute wisdom, Which is the fastest and easiest way of getting John Wilson Preludes from manuscript of the Bodleian Library, Mus. B

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-27 Thread Howard Posner
Nancy Carlin wrote: The LSA has just gotten a review copy of the new Paul O'Dette Ellen Hargis CD The Power of Love - see the ad for this in the last LSA Quarterly. This CD is a combination of songs and instrumentals, some by WIlson and other by his contemporaries. It contains Wilson

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Howard, I agree that W probably continued to play the lute but that, of course, would not stop him from also playing a theorbo (whatever physical configuration - perhaps one of those depicted with a short extension to the fingerboard on the bass side - none have, alas, survived) with just

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-21 Thread Howard Posner
Stewart McCoy wrote: I agree with Howard, that it is not an easy matter deciding whether Wilson tuned the first string of his instrument at pitch or down an octave. The first string is rarely used in his lute solos, but there is enough evidence to support a high octave, and enough to support

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thanks for this Howard, Yes, but I'm not saying he never uses the first course but generally steers clear of it: all those frets f, h etc on the second course and whole pieces with nothing or just the odd note on the first course eg bar 3 of the same piece - this is typical small theorbo (ie

[LUTE] Fwd: Re: John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I'm sending this again since the 'etc...' buggered up the tab spacing MH Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:20:40 +0100 (BST) From: Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes To: Howard Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED

[LUTE] Fwd: Re: John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Oh Dear - still not right - try this... MH Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:20:40 +0100 (BST) To: Howard Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes Thanks

[LUTE] Fwd: Fwd: Re: John Wilson Preludes 3

2005-08-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Fwd: Re: John Wilson Preludes Oh Dear - still not right - try this... MH Martyn Hodgson wrote: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:20:40 +0100 (BST) To: Howard Posner , Lute Net From: Martyn Hodgson Subject: [LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes Thanks

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-16 Thread LGS-Europe
LGS-Europe wrote: To those of you who have expressed an interest in The John Wilson Preludes that I have started posting on wwwGuitarLoot.co.uk I am Why go through all this trouble when there's a beautiful edition available? Diapason press (DP49, Utrecht) has an edition which includes the small

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-16 Thread LGS-Europe
Dear Eric I am glad to hear you can read the facsimile tablature in the Matthew Spring edition, your eyesight must be better than mine! Small print , indeed. But many years of reading whatever they put on my music stand in whatever light is provided in the concert venues does help. ;-) But I

[LUTE] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: John Wilson Preludes 3

2005-08-16 Thread Howard Posner
Martyn Hodgson wrote: Could someone kindly tell me, in simple computerise, why the tablature I painstackingly typed in gets re-arranged? It needs to be in a monospaced font at both ends. It's not coming through that way. If you typed it in a monospaced font, your first try (before you

[LUTE] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: John Wilson Preludes 3

2005-08-16 Thread Nancy Carlin
About those Wilson pieces. The LSA has just gotten a review copy of the new Paul O'Dette Ellen Hargis CD The Power of Love - see the ad for this in the last LSA Quarterly. This CD is a combination of songs and instrumentals, some by WIlson and other by his contemporaries. It contains Wilson

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-15 Thread LGS-Europe
To those of you who have expressed an interest in The John Wilson Preludes that I have started posting on wwwGuitarLoot.co.uk I am Why go through all this trouble when there's a beautiful edition available? Diapason press (DP49, Utrecht) has an edition which includes the small but readable

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-15 Thread Martyn Hodgson
a marked aversion to using the first course. rgds MH LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To those of you who have expressed an interest in The John Wilson Preludes that I have started posting on I am Why go through all this trouble when there's a beautiful edition available? Diapason press (DP49

[LUTE] Fwd: Re: John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-15 Thread Martyn Hodgson
evidence of the tablatures (including the song accompaniements) which show a marked aversion to using the first course. rgds MH LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To those of you who have expressed an interest in The John Wilson Preludes that I have started posting on I am Why go through all

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-15 Thread Eric Crouch
Aug 2005, at 08:01, LGS-Europe wrote: To those of you who have expressed an interest in The John Wilson Preludes that I have started posting on wwwGuitarLoot.co.uk I am Why go through all this trouble when there's a beautiful edition available? Diapason press (DP49, Utrecht) has

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-15 Thread Alain Veylit
documents need to break new ground, but it is slightly unfair to claim that this is easy to do. best wishes, Alain LGS-Europe wrote: To those of you who have expressed an interest in The John Wilson Preludes that I have started posting on wwwGuitarLoot.co.uk I am Why go through all

[LUTE] Re: John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-15 Thread Howard Posner
Martyn Hodgson wrote: I'm interested that you refer to the instrument as a lute (as does Spring) whereas I had always supposed it was written for the theorbo with only the first course an octave down from normal. This from internal evidence of the tablatures (including the song

[LUTE] John Wilson Preludes

2005-08-14 Thread Eric Crouch
To those of you who have expressed an interest in The John Wilson Preludes that I have started posting on wwwGuitarLoot.co.uk I am embarassed to say that the lute tablature version I initially posted of Prelude 3 had a lot of errors in it. I have now posted a corrected version

Re: John Wilson

2003-11-26 Thread Howard Posner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assumed that I'd have to do experiment with some re-stringing to play these pieces on a (A-pitched) Italian theorbo. I was also wondering if anyone knows whether this is technically practical on a continuo-sized instrument. I suppose if your

Re: John Wilson

2003-11-25 Thread Stewart McCoy
to this List dated 17th January 2000. Many thanks for that. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. - Original Message - From: Howard Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:49 AM Subject: Re: John Wilson Stewart McCoy at [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: John Wilson

2003-11-25 Thread chriswilke
Howard, et al, I assumed that I'd have to do experiment with some re-stringing to play these pieces on a (A-pitched) Italian theorbo. I was also wondering if anyone knows whether this is technically practical on a continuo-sized instrument. Chris --- Howard Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

John Wilson

2003-11-24 Thread chriswilke
Dear Listenists, Does anyone know if the theorbo music of John Wilson is available anywhere? I'm particularly interested in the series of pieces in each key. Also, can this music be played on a big Italian theorbo (chittarone)? Thanks in advance, Chris Wilke

Re: John Wilson

2003-11-24 Thread Dr. Gordon J. Callon
There is a recent edition: John Wilson, Thirty Preludes in All (24) Keys for Lute: Facsimile and Transcription of the Manuscript Oxford, Bodleian Library, Mus. B. 1. Edited by Matthew Spring (DP 49) (Houten, The Netherlands: The Diapason Press, 1997). See: http://diapason.xentonic.org/dp/dp049

Re: John Wilson

2003-11-24 Thread Howard Posner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if the theorbo music of John Wilson is available anywhere? I'm particularly interested in the series of pieces in each key. Also, can this music be played on a big Italian theorbo (chittarone)? Thanks in advance, All the solo

Re: John Wilson

2003-11-24 Thread Stewart McCoy
of Dr John Wilson, both songs and lute solos. I'm afraid I can't remember who told me, but I understand that, in granting permission for the facsimile edition to go ahead, the Bodleian Library insisted that Garland reproduce the manuscript in its entirety. The aim of the Garland facsimiles

Re: John Wilson

2003-11-24 Thread Howard Posner
Stewart McCoy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wilson seems to avoid using the first course, which seems to suggest there was some kind of problem with it, e.g. it might have been tuned down an octave. Of course (no pun intended, but what the hell), Wilson does not avoid the first course in the