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Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:38 AM
Subject: Antwort: Re: Mudarra's bordon
Hi Michael,
actually italian tab is quite easy. Just imagine to look *through* your
lute and you'll see the numbers just on the right position.
Only the 8th - 14th course
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Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
Dear Michael,
Italian tab is indeed learnable. I put it off for 20 years and then
lived it with it exclusively for a week and found it no biggy. I
started with single
Paul then started to demonstrate many examples of the advantages of an
octave on the 4th course. One of the examples was the Padoana by Capriola,
which if I remember correctly he only played the octave at certain times, of
the fourth course? Is this what is meant as splitting a course?
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Thema: Re: Mudarra's bordon
Sean,
Thanks for the encouragement, I was hopping someone with experience with
Italian Tab. would find it attainable with a little effort, and spur me on.
I much prefer to read from facsimiles.
I bit the bullet a few months ago, and got
wishes,
Denys
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From: Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
Dear Michael,
I understand why you are confused now!
You are not looking
There are lots of examples, as Kenneth says.
Phalese has 4 (!) in his Livre III 1547 publication, (the one edited
by Teghi) Descendat bassus uno tono (maior neruus)
Berberis 1549
The famous Italiana attributed (mistakenly?) to Galilei, has its
equivalents in some Branles in Besards Thesaurus
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Denys Stephens
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Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
Dear Michael,
Dalza uses a tuning where both the fifth and sixth
courses are tuned a tone lower than normal - see
folio 27v of his book where the instructions
are included
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From: Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
Dear Michael,
Dalza uses a tuning where both the fifth and sixth
courses are tuned a tone
to reproduce unmeasured
tablature as the programs don't like not to have bar lines!
Best wishes,
Denys
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From: Leonard Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
On 5/30/05 7:39 AM
Wayne
From: Denys Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
Dear Leonard,
Thanks for that information - it's good to know
about that edition. I wonder if he has a tab program
that can handle the split course? I often find myself
trying to reproduce features from non
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Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
Dear Michael,
I understand why you are confused now!
You are not looking at the original.
I have some of the Lyre Music publications myself
and think that they are extremely valuable - the
Art of Lute in Renaissance
for the Dalsa peices I love this stuff!
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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From: Denys Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
Dear Michael,
I understand why
In a message dated 5/27/2005 7:10:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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I don't know whether any 16th century lute music involves tuning the 6th
course down a tone. Perhaps someone on the list can tell us.
Plenty of examples, the earliest being several piece in the Capirola
tuning the 6th course down
a step yet at the same time shows an open a'' on the 6th courses as well?
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
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Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
Dear Michael,
Dalza uses a tuning where both the fifth and sixth
courses are tuned a tone lower than normal - see
folio 27v of his book where the instructions
are included at the beginning of the piece.
Best wishes
Ken--
None of Mudarra's pieces for vihuela (at least not the first 51) in
his Tres Libros requires a seventh course or a down-tuned sixth course. His
6 pieces for four course guitar require two different tunings: temple viejo
(Bflat f a d) and temple nuevo (c f a d). Played directly from
De Rippe does it, too. I do it occasionally, when playing 7-course music on
my 6-course.
David
In a message dated 5/27/2005 7:10:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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I don't know whether any 16th century lute music involves tuning the 6th
course down a tone. Perhaps
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