r vocal chords making the sound. As Thomas says, you can get
> these very high notes either on their own, or sounding at the same
> time as the low fundamental ones. The sound is utterly incredible,
> and in all seriousness this kind of singing needs a health warning,
> such is the e
Am 10 May 2004 um 17:45 hat Stewart McCoy geschrieben:
> The sound is utterly incredible, and
> in all seriousness this kind of singing needs a health warning, such
> is the effort required to do it.
Dear Stewart and all,
if one doesn't try to copy an exotic throat technique but just
experime
t ) and some
> modern composers made works for overtonesinging.
>
> Best wishes Thomas
>
>
> Am Fre, 2004-05-07 um 01.02 schrieb Arthur Ness (boston):
>
> > Dear Thomas, > > As far as I know Shape Note notation and singing is an
> American invention > from aro
a long way from shape note singing, which is normal
singing, but reading from a special notation where notes are written
in different shapes to help the singer pitch them correctly. I can't
improve on Arthur's description appended below.
Best wishes,
Stewart McCoy.
- Original Message
Juliet's nurse, and the family retainer, in the early part of Romeo and
Juliet, discuss her falling on her face as a child, and how she will fall on
her back when she grows. But old age also makes a directional problem. One's
voice breaks down rather than up (and take that in any sense you choose).
would you please announce it before you're going to be kidding so that
others (me, that is) can get it ;)
MR
"Tony Chalkley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> Don't know how it is lute-related.
>
> Because, fortunately, we don't always think in straight lines. As Craig
> said, we call this overt
> >
> >
> > Best Wishes
> >
> > Ron (UK)
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Thomas Schall [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 07 May 2004 09:57
> > To: Arthur Ness (boston)
> > Cc: LUTE NET
> > Subject: Re: Shape note
&
iption Thomas
>
>
> Best Wishes
>
> Ron (UK)
> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas Schall [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 07 May 2004 09:57
> To: Arthur Ness (boston)
> Cc: LUTE NET
> Subject: Re: Shape note
>
> Hi Arthur!
>
> Thanks for exp
: Shape note
Hi Arthur!
Thanks for explaining the shape notes! And to Alain for the instructive
link!
I was completely on the wrong path!
"Obertonsingen" means a certain scale (containing just the overtones)
and way of singing (producing overtones in addition to the actual note
you wa
sounds funny (but you need to get used to it ) and some
modern composers made works for overtonesinging.
Best wishes Thomas
Am Fre, 2004-05-07 um 01.02 schrieb Arthur Ness (boston):
> Dear Thomas, > > As far as I know Shape Note notation and singing is an
American invention >
Dear Craig,
I think what you are descibing is very similar if not the same.
I'm on my way to switzerland and don't have the time to explain in
detail. Will tell more when I return.
Hastily yours
Thomas
Am Fre, 2004-05-07 um 13.32 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Dear Thomas,
> Thank you for the
Dear Thomas,
>
> "Obertonsingen" means a certain scale (containing just the overtones)
> and way of singing (producing overtones in addition to the actual note
> you want to sing). This is produced by a certain way to exclain the
> vowels. U has less overtones than I. Everyone can try by himself s
he rate of overtones increase up to parity with the actual note.
Actually this sounds funny (but you need to get used to it ) and some
modern composers made works for overtonesinging.
Best wishes
Thomas
Am Fre, 2004-05-07 um 01.02 schrieb Arthur Ness (boston):
> Dear Thomas,
>
> As far as I
Dear Thomas,
As far as I know Shape Note notation and singing is an American invention
from around 1800, and was used primarily in singing hymns (particularly in
southern and midwestern churches). The earliest sytem has four syllables,
Fa, Sol, La, Mi, and is sometimes called Fasola. Now an F
lugin that
RealPlayer knows nothing about - a tad frustrating...
Alain
At 03:13 PM 5/6/04, Thomas Schall wrote:
>Just a question:
>does shape note singing has anything to do with what we in germany call
>"Obertonsingen"?
>Sorry - I simply don't understand what this th
Just a question:
does shape note singing has anything to do with what we in germany call
"Obertonsingen"?
Sorry - I simply don't understand what this thread is about ...
Thomas
Am Don, 2004-05-06 um 23.13 schrieb Alain Veylit:
> In view of a recent discussion:
> There
In view of a recent discussion:
There is a fairly extensive discussion of shape note singing by the
Anonymous 4 (with musical examples) on the NPR WEB site at
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1834026 under the "Listen to
Anonymous 4 Live" link.
You'll need a
David,
> Some of the professional choral groups such as the Hilliard Ensemble
> have recorded shape-note singing, but most of the fasola community
> laugh at them. To bring a trained voice into a shape-note sing, or to
> "perform" that music in any way, is to completely
Once again, the academic lute world shows how inept they are at doing
anything beyond studying what other people do naturally.
No, Howard is not quite right. He doesn't know what he's talking
about. What he knows about the "point" of shape-note singing events is
preci
shining example of unclarity.
Howard Posner wrote:
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Billings ever saw a shape note in
>his life, which ended in 1800, 43 years before the Sacred Harp was first
>publis
You wrote:
> Some of the professional choral groups such as the Hilliard Ensemble
> have recorded shape-note singing, but most of the fasola community
> laugh at them. To bring a trained voice into a shape-note sing, or to
> "perform" that music in any way, is to completel
shop Quartet
> Society.
The singing is the exact opposite to the micro-managed,
microscopically-tweaked sound of barbershop singing. The best
shape-note singing is loud almost to the point of pain, raucous and
completely undisciplined. Control freaks have no power whatsoever at a
shape-n
elected groups, although
> not professional),
Some of the professional choral groups such as the Hilliard Ensemble
have recorded shape-note singing, but most of the fasola community
laugh at them. To bring a trained voice into a shape-note sing, or to
"perform" that music in any way, is to completely miss the point.
David Rastall
Yes, Jon, this is music for "that old-time religion." I expect the
practitioners today constitute a cult following, like those drum and bugle
corps who choreograph all their march steps, or the Barbershop Quartet
Society. I do know that Sacred Harp refers to an early collection of
Arthur, and list,
Update on shape-note. I've emailed the convention and they gave me a web
site (http://mysite.verizon.net/gssh). A bit more than three quarters of the
way down the home page are two sample songs you can play to hear their sound
(and there is a lot of info on the Sacred
Arthur,
I'll note the date, it would be interesting and Montclair is only about an
hour away. I know a bit of "shaped note", and of "sacred harp" the harp has
nothing to do with the instrument. One of the characteristics is that the
singers are in a circle, so as best to involve all in their paean
There was some mention of this on the Lute List recently, and I thought
some might be interested in this convention. Besides it's free. Maybe Jon
will take it in and give us a report, since it _is_ called the Sacred
Harp. I think shape note singing is still even more popular in the
South.
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