[LUTE] Re: theorbo question

2006-09-13 Thread JCetra
Dear David and All: I would say a larger body is more important, because it takes a critical mass of top area to reproduce that bass note, sort of like a bass drum. That is one reason why many archlutes are deficient in the bass register, in my opinion. A luthier once showed me an archlute

[LUTE] Re: theorbo question

2006-09-13 Thread Arthur Ness
. - Original Message - From: dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:46 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: theorbo question LGS-Europe écrit: For a good general introduction to theorbo playing turn to Kevin Mason's The Chitarrone and its repertoire in early

[LUTE] Re: theorbo question

2006-09-13 Thread chriswilke
David, I have to disagree with the prevailing opinion somewhat: bigger is not always better. I speak from some experience, owning both a gigantic theorbo (99cm on the board(!), diapasons around 6 1/2 feet long) and a smaller one (76cm fingerboard/119 diapasons). Nowadays I use the small one

[LUTE] Re: theorbo question

2006-09-13 Thread dc
Arthur Ness écrit: When Boethius took clerical orders, he took the name Severinus. Check Severinus Press. It's still in print: Great! Thanks, Arthur. Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: theorbo question

2006-09-13 Thread Herbert Ward
At some places, I've even learned to hold back when I use the small guy so that the sound doesn't get too annoying. Once I saw a Steinway baby grand that had a nicer bass than a larger Steinway a few feet away. Not louder, but clearer and more musical. Is this phenomenon also possible in

[LUTE] Re: theorbo question

2006-09-13 Thread chriswilke
--- Herbert Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At some places, I've even learned to hold back when I use the small guy so that the sound doesn't get too annoying. Once I saw a Steinway baby grand that had a nicer bass than a larger Steinway a few feet away. Not louder, but clearer and

[LUTE] Re: One marking in Saizenay ms, theorbo tab?

2006-09-12 Thread Alexander Batov
- Original Message - From: Arto Wikla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 7:07 PM Subject: [LUTE] One marking in Saizenay ms, theorbo tab? Dear collective wisdom, in the Saizenay ms. there is is a marking in one theorbo piece

[LUTE] Re: theorbo question

2006-09-12 Thread Jason Ferry
on the fingerboard, the body is not exactly huge. I've also seen theorboes with larger bodies with eight or nine frets on the fingerboard and around 120 cm.diapasons: large body, short neck extension. So my question is: which is more important to the production of a full, substantial theorbo sound

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo music French tab

2006-09-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
(in a limited version) at the first website. Jim On 9/10/06, Mathias R=F6sel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Does anyone know whether Theorbo solo music, particularly from Intavolature Di Chitarrone, Kapsberger, Piccinini, and Viviani has been put

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo music French tab

2006-09-11 Thread JCetra
Dear Dick and All: Even more helpful, hasn't the Lute Society in England actually published a volume of Piccinini and Kapsberger in French tab for 10-course lute? Cheers, Jim -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo music French tab

2006-09-11 Thread Lambert, SC \(Simon\)
There is such a publication, but - without having seen it myself - I think it's probably archlute/liuto attiorbato music, rather than theorbo. This is what it says on the Society's website: Selections from Piccinini and Kapsberger for Solo Renaissance Lute

[LUTE] One marking in Saizenay ms, theorbo tab?

2006-09-11 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear collective wisdom, in the Saizenay ms. there is is a marking in one theorbo piece that is (probably) borrowed from guitar tabulature signs. In the beginning of the Chaconne, in page 288, there is the chord progression named pour la Chaconne, where the writer has used eight notes after

[LUTE] Theorbo music French tab

2006-09-10 Thread Richard Brook
Does anyone know whether Theorbo solo music, particularly from Intavolature Di Chitarrone, Kapsberger, Piccinini, and Viviani has been put into French tab? Thanks, Dick Brook To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo music French tab

2006-09-10 Thread jim abraham
Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Does anyone know whether Theorbo solo music, particularly from Intavolature Di Chitarrone, Kapsberger, Piccinini, and Viviani has been put into French tab? With modern tablature programmes, you can do that yourself with a click. -- Best, Mathias http

[LUTE] Frets on a theorbo

2006-09-01 Thread Taco Walstra
On Friday 01 September 2006 03:31, you wrote: dear all, Just a question what came to mind reading the mails on frets. My theorbo with gutstrings needs to have the frets with an angle to the strings to get a correct tone. I.e. the fret needs to be shifted in the direction of the pegbox

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: d minor theorbo tuning

2006-08-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
The highest course of the Dm theorbo was d' - ie not f' as on the Dm lute. This was the subject of various communications over a year ago (see archives). At this and tuned at something below A440 it's quite possible to use gut strings on a proper size theorbo (eg the late Schelle

[BAROQUE-LUTE] d minor theorbo tuning

2006-08-20 Thread Dr. Henner Kahlert
Dear all, we know that German lutenists in the 18th century like Weiss an Baron played continuo on their theorbos in d-minor tuning too (cf. Ernst Gottlieb Baron, Historisch-Theoretisch und Practische Untersuchung des Instruments der Lauten, Nürnberg 1727 p. 131, who also wrote that their

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: d minor theorbo tuning

2006-08-20 Thread Daniel Shoskes
Benjamin Narvey has an essay on d minor tuned continuo instruments in the current issue of the Lute Society of America Quarterly. On Aug 20, 2006, at 9:25 AM, Dr. Henner Kahlert wrote: Dear all, we know that German lutenists in the 18th century like Weiss an Baron played continuo on

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: d minor theorbo tuning

2006-08-20 Thread Rob Dorsey
Henner and All, While this may not exactly answer your query, I have used my 76/120 theorbo in continuo playing and it is in normal Dm tuning. Due to the manageable string length of 76cm on the fingerboard re-entrant tuning was not required or desired. The instrument has double course

[LUTE] Re: theorbo-church

2006-07-27 Thread Howard Posner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, they were played together with an organ, it's in the title, so there must have been in a church... I don't think organo necessarily meant organ as such. It often appears to be used in the sense of keyboard or even continuo; e.g. in Vivaldi's published

[LUTE] Lute Theorbo by Martin Haycock for Sale

2006-07-17 Thread Benjamin Narvey
Dear All, Martin Haycock has asked me to forward around the following information about two fabulous instruments of his that are currently on sale. They are: *14 course Theorbo Martin Haycock* 1998. 85 164 cms. Can be strung 7+7 or 6+8. Snakewood multirib back. Ebony veneered lower and upper

[LUTE] Robert Lundberg Theorbo

2006-04-20 Thread Rob Dorsey
two lutes, a 13 crs Dieffenbrucher style baroque lute and a 74/140cm theorbo lute, for Dm tuning, spectacularly constructed of ebony and ivory (fellow greenies don't despair, it's all certified, CITES legal ivory) both of which I play today. In the introduction and QA section prior to the first

[LUTE] Theorbo rental

2006-03-03 Thread Michal Gondko
I've been watching some of the 'travelling with theorbo'-discussion here - indeed a problem for many of us, to which no fully satisfactory solution has yet been found. I was wondering: obviously there is a size difference, but it became a norm to rent a harpsichord for a performance; why renting

[LUTE] Re: 19 Course Theorbo

2006-02-24 Thread chriswilke
Nancy, Paul said that he thought the French 11-course music was the most difficult stuff in the lute repertoire from a purely musical perspective. He also said that he thought most players didn't play the dances with enough concern for the underlying pulse, but instead play the brise

[LUTE] Re: 19 Course Theorbo

2006-02-24 Thread David Rastall
On Feb 24, 2006, at 1:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul said that he thought the French 11-course music was the most difficult stuff in the lute repertoire from a purely musical perspective. He also said that he thought most players didn't play the dances with enough concern for the

[LUTE] Re: 19 Course Theorbo

2006-02-24 Thread Howard Posner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He also said that he thought most players didn't play the dances with enough concern for the underlying pulse, He's been saying this for a least 20 years. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: 19 Course Theorbo

2006-02-24 Thread Arto Wikla
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Howard Posner wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He also said that he thought most players didn't play the dances with enough concern for the underlying pulse, He's been saying this for a least 20 years. And in his Italian recordings - Kapsberger et. al. - he has

[LUTE] Re: 19 Course Theorbo

2006-02-24 Thread Mathias Rösel
Arto Wikla [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: said that he thought most players didn't play the dances with enough concern for the underlying pulse, He's been saying this for a least 20 years. And in his Italian recordings - Kapsberger et. al. - he has used the interpretation soft -

[LUTE] Re: 19 Course Theorbo

2006-02-24 Thread guy_and_liz Smith
, 2006 4:14 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: 19 Course Theorbo Arto Wikla [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: said that he thought most players didn't play the dances with enough concern for the underlying pulse, He's been saying this for a least 20 years. And in his Italian recordings - Kapsberger et

[LUTE] Re: 19 Course Theorbo

2006-02-24 Thread cweaver100
Of course we can say O'dette is a= great musician. Listen to his accompaniment of Ellen Hargis on their= recent CD, or watch him direct an opera. These are skills that go to= tally beyond his astonishing technical ability. He has his quirky mom= ents, but I've never met anyone

[LUTE] Theorbo stringing

2006-02-18 Thread Henner . Kahlert
Dear Daniel, the best information about theorboes, size and string length you can find at www.theorbo.com the website of Lynda Sayce. Until now I play a theorbo of Andreas von Holst, Munich, a wonderful instrument. It has 6 courses with 76 cm on the fingerboard and 8 basses with 140 cm

[LUTE] Theorbo or 10c wanted

2005-12-18 Thread Rob MacKillop
I am looking for a second-hand theorbo or 10c lute, including case for up to 3,000 pounds sterling (5,000 USD or 4,500Euros). Must have ebony fingerboard. I actually want both instruments, but can only afford one. This is an expensive business! Email me privately, please. Rob MacKillop

[LUTE] Re: Pittoni, was: Theorbo and continuo

2005-12-07 Thread LGS-Europe
first movement (Adagio or Grave), followed by several dance movements (Corrente, Sarabanda, Giga, occasional Allemanda) The continuo bass mostly doubles the theorbo bass, so you can play them without organ or cembalo. But I think the point of this music is to have a rich, supporting continuo sound

[LUTE] Re: Pittoni, was: Theorbo and continuo

2005-12-06 Thread Taco Walstra
parts with a violin player, and it sounded quite nice. I would choose a small organ by the way to get a more ensemble character because the theorbo part is important here, but that's a matter of taste of course. Taco Walstra To get on or off this list see list information at http

[LUTE] Re: Pittoni, was: Theorbo and continuo

2005-12-06 Thread Edward Martin
A duet partner of mine, Paul Berget, has recorded some Pittoni with an organist, but it is not released. It is beautiful music. ed At 07:52 AM 12/6/2005 +0100, LGS-Europe wrote: do you really consider Pittoni playable, useful? Can you really play his music? Sure! And as I said, audiences

[LUTE] Re: Pittoni, was: Theorbo and continuo

2005-12-06 Thread chriswilke
Everyone, I just sent a message like this to only David by mistake, when I wanted to send it to the list. Are there any opinions as to the contents of this book? I'm mainly looking for pieces to play solo, so if its all made up of sonatas with obligatory continuo, its probably not the best

[LUTE] Re: Pittoni, was: Theorbo and continuo

2005-12-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
- it is, of course, necessary to be careful to spot the rest marks which can be v small in the MSs of this period. MH Donatella Galletti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, about the organ I'm not sure he meant a chamber one. I played theorbo with a real church organ, Italian of course, of about

[LUTE] Re: Pittoni, was: Theorbo and continuo

2005-12-05 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists (especially theorbists) On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, Donatella Galletti wrote: Pittoni was considered a great virtuoso, so I also think he must have played something more, apart from the written notes. do you really consider Pittoni playable, useful? Can you really play his music?

[LUTE] Re: Pittoni, was: Theorbo and continuo

2005-12-05 Thread LGS-Europe
do you really consider Pittoni playable, useful? Can you really play his music? Sure! And as I said, audiences love it, for whatever that's worth. David To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Theorbo and continuo

2005-12-04 Thread dc
I played a long time ago a few Kapsberger pieces for theorbo with a figured bass (on the organ), and am wondering if there's anything else for a solo theorbo and continuo. Thanks, Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo and continuo

2005-12-04 Thread Donatella Galletti
Pittoni! Spes Edition Donatella http://web.tiscali.it/awebd - Original Message - From: dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 11:29 AM Subject: [LUTE] Theorbo and continuo I played a long time ago a few Kapsberger pieces for theorbo

[LUTE] Pittoni, was: Theorbo and continuo

2005-12-04 Thread Arto Wikla
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005, Donatella Galletti wrote: Pittoni! Spes Edition Yes! Ferrara 1669. Lots of Sonate da Chiesa and Sonate da Camera! The only problem is the tuning; seems to be so that in places the second string or choir should be in upper octave, in other places in lower octave! Andrea

[LUTE] Re: Pittoni, was: Theorbo and continuo

2005-12-04 Thread Donatella Galletti
the big North.. http://web.tiscali.it/awebd - Original Message - From: Arto Wikla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Donatella Galletti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 11:57 AM Subject: [LUTE] Pittoni, was: Theorbo and continuo

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature

2005-11-13 Thread Gordon J. Callon
, for example, Lambeth Palace Library MS 1041. I have a sample in PostScript format at my www site, the anonymous French song, with archlute or theorbo tablature, Hola, hola Charon. See: http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#A In Italian tablature these are shown usually with numbers above

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature

2005-11-13 Thread Rob MacKillop
Great resource, Gordon, but how many of us have a Postscript printer? Rob -Original Message- From: Gordon J. Callon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2005 16:51 To: dc; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature In French tablature the diapasons or bordons

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature

2005-11-13 Thread David Cassetti
, David Rob MacKillop wrote: Great resource, Gordon, but how many of us have a Postscript printer? Rob -Original Message- From: Gordon J. Callon [[2]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2005 16:51 To: dc; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature In French

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature

2005-11-13 Thread guy_and_liz Smith
] To: 'Lute net'mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:04 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature Thanks David! Rob -Original Message- From: David Cassetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2005 17:44 To: Lute net Subject: [LUTE] Re

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature

2005-11-13 Thread Gordon J. Callon
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature Great resource, Gordon, but how many of us have a Postscript printer? Rob -Original Message- From: Gordon J. Callon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2005 16:51 To: dc; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature

2005-11-13 Thread Rob MacKillop
_ From: guy_and_liz Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2005 18:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Lute net' Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature Or get a copy of Ghostscript (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/), and you can just print them yourself. It's free for non-commercial use

[LUTE] Theorbo tablature

2005-11-12 Thread dc
Are there any specific sites out there devoted to theorbo tablature? I found quite a few for the different lutes, but none for theorbo. I was wondering in particular how the unfretted strings were notated. Thanks, Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature

2005-11-12 Thread Mathias R�sel
dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Are there any specific sites out there devoted to theorbo tablature? I found quite a few for the different lutes, but none for theorbo. theorbo issues are considered integral parts of lute sciences on this list :) I was wondering in particular how the unfretted

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature

2005-11-12 Thread chriswilke
Dennis, Check out Lynda Sayce's site: www.theorbo.com. There is a section about notation directed towards composers, but it will tell you more than you ever thought you needed to know. Chris --- dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any specific sites out there devoted to theorbo

[LUTE] Theorbo pieces for beginners

2005-11-09 Thread dc
Are there any easy pieces specifically written for theorbo? Thanks, Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo pieces for beginners

2005-11-09 Thread Taco Walstra
On Wednesday 09 November 2005 12:19, dc wrote: Are there any easy pieces specifically written for theorbo? Thanks, Dennis It depends of course what you call easy. If you are an experienced luteplayer without any difficulties of reading tablature, starting on theorbo you can have a look

[LUTE] Goess theorbo

2005-10-17 Thread chriswilke
Dear list, I'm wondering what instrument or tuning is in mind for use in the Goess theorbo manuscript. The TREE edition has theorbo printed on the spine but theorbo/archlute on the title page. A quick scan of the preface proved unhelpful in clearing this up (I could have missed

[LUTE] Re: Goess theorbo

2005-10-17 Thread Taco Walstra
On Monday 17 October 2005 16:50, you wrote: hi chris, The book contains a mix of archlute and theorbo pieces and tunings differ continuously unfortunately: some are standard theorbo or archlute, some need the 2nd string in the english tuning like Wilson. If I remember it correct there is also

[LUTE] Re: archlute v theorbo, for amateur

2005-09-18 Thread Thomas Schall
Dear Emilio, I'm playing Continuo on a liuto attiorbato and am happy with it. You have a different tone than ona n archlute or theorbo but are able to play good continuo. Volume is no problem (at least with my instrument). In a smaller ensemble there is no problem playing continuo

[LUTE] Re: archlute v theorbo, for amateur

2005-09-18 Thread Emilio Barone
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[LUTE] archlute v theorbo, for amateur

2005-09-17 Thread Emilio Barone
between playing continuo on a smaller theorbo and playing on an extended archlute? 4. If anyone on the list plays continuo on a liuto attiorbato, would you advise as to the advantages and disadvantages (e.g. is there sufficient volume). Any advice would be welcome. Emilio

[LUTE] Re: archlute v theorbo, for amateur

2005-09-17 Thread LGS-Europe
shapes encountered in that music. If you really study continuo you will discover many more useful chord shapes and find the ones that work best for you. 3. In smaller ensembles, would there be significant tonal differences between playing continuo on a smaller theorbo and playing on an extended

[LUTE] Re: theorbo plucking fingers

2005-08-29 Thread LGS-Europe
makes most sense if you glue the pinky on the soundboard because it's much easier to obtain a stable position of the right hand. Indeed, as opposed to my guitar habit of keeping 'a' in touch with the first string. A look into guitar methods of the early 19th century also gives hint: Sor

[LUTE] Re: theorbo plucking fingers

2005-08-29 Thread LGS-Europe
One thing that I find especially trying is the common occurance of 'i' being placed on the strong parts of the measure. This free for all amoung the three RH Indeed, I'm so lue-trained at using 'm' on strong beats. Another difficult thing I find is repeating the same finger. easier to find

[LUTE] Re: theorbo plucking fingers

2005-08-29 Thread Taco Walstra
On Sunday 28 August 2005 10:03, you wrote: I am religiously trying to follow De Visée's right hand fingering of his theorbo pieces (Saizenay MS): no third finger! I find it not easy to leave my well-trained guitar-a out of it, but it does improve my sound (changing to no nails and gut strings

[LUTE] Re: theorbo plucking fingers

2005-08-29 Thread LGS-Europe
Hoi Taco I am religiously trying to follow De Vise's right hand fingering of his theorbo pieces (Saizenay MS): no third finger! I find it not easy to leave .. Isn't this what Kapsberger was also doing? Need to check. Kapsberger even plays his broken chords without ring finger. Cannot quite do

[LUTE] Re: theorbo plucking fingers

2005-08-29 Thread chriswilke
David, easier to find all those low strings with my thumb, But with only using i and m it is possible to keep the little finger on the soundboard, making finding basses easier again. David Yes, in theory, and this is what everyone told me when I started theorbo directly from

[LUTE] theorbo plucking fingers

2005-08-28 Thread LGS-Europe
I am religiously trying to follow De Visée's right hand fingering of his theorbo pieces (Saizenay MS): no third finger! I find it not easy to leave my well-trained guitar-a out of it, but it does improve my sound (changing to no nails and gut strings also helped ;-). Anyone else has the same

[LUTE] Re: theorbo plucking fingers

2005-08-28 Thread Thomas Schall
right hand fingering of his theorbo pieces (Saizenay MS): no third finger! I find it not easy to leave my well-trained guitar-a out of it, but it does improve my sound (changing to no nails and gut strings also helped ;-). Anyone else has the same or contradictory experiences? David - trying

[LUTE] Re: theorbo plucking fingers

2005-08-28 Thread chriswilke
fingers on the fingerboard strings doesn't make it any easier to find all those low strings with my thumb, either! Much of this has to do with the re-entrant tuning of the French theorbo of course. Chris --- LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am religiously trying to follow De Visée's right

Re: Melii theorbo tuning (ON TOPIC)

2005-05-08 Thread chriswilke
David, I ran across Andrea Damiani's article right after I posted my message to the list. I would love to try the octave course, but unfortunately, my theorbo is single strung. Someday, I might try it with the second string in the upper octave, though. Do you think this may work

Re: Melii theorbo tuning (ON TOPIC)

2005-05-07 Thread LGS-Europe
You'll encounter the same questions, and lack of definitive answers, in the theorbo music by Pittoni. But a double second course with one of the strings in the higher octave is a new thought for me, actually similar to what you'll find on a baroque guitar. Interesting. Anybody ever tried

Melii theorbo tuning (ON TOPIC)

2005-05-06 Thread chriswilke
anyone know what the theorbo tuning is for Pietro Paolo Melii's handful of works per la Tiorba? It certainly seems that the second course at least is not re-entrant. Perhaps he's written for a double-strung instrument with only one string of the course tuned down the octave? Or is it for a different

Re: Antwort: Re: more about the old theorbo

2005-04-17 Thread Martin Shepherd
PROTECTED] am 14.04.2005 01:13:57 An:LUTE-LIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Kopie: Thema: Re: more about the old theorbo Wayne, This looks old indeed - but why call it a theorbo when the courses are doubled? It looks like a 10-course archlute, perhaps the famed liuto francese used in Italy? Just

Re: Antwort: Re: more about the old theorbo

2005-04-17 Thread Thomas Schall
Dear Martin, The neck and the shape of the body would suggest IMHO it's not a theorbo but a german baroque lute. This would also suggest double courses for the basses. To be sure we would need the measures of the body. I would opt for 2 single courses on the top, 5 doublecourses

Fw: Re: Antwort: Re: more about the old theorbo

2005-04-17 Thread Daniel F Heiman
Apr 2005 12:04:12 +0200 Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: more about the old theorbo Dear Martin, The neck and the shape of the body would suggest IMHO it's not a theorbo but a german baroque lute. This would also suggest double courses for the basses. To be sure we would need the measures

Re: Antwort: Re: more about the old theorbo

2005-04-17 Thread Roman Turovsky
g. The rake of the pegbox looks too shallow to allow for a treble rider to be glued on to add a single first string in addition to those already present. Swan-neck lutes never have treble riders. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/torban To get on or off this list see list information at

Re: Antwort: Re: more about the old theorbo

2005-04-17 Thread Martyn Hodgson
PROTECTED] wrote: Anyhow - max 11-courses. I'll ask around to check if somebody knows more about the instrument. Thomas Roman Turovsky am 14.04.2005 01:13:57 An: LUTE-LIST Kopie: Thema: Re: more about the old theorbo Wayne, This looks old indeed - but why call it a theorbo when

Re: Fw: Re: Antwort: Re: more about the old theorbo

2005-04-17 Thread Thomas Schall
I will be playing in the czech republic later that year. If there are closer details about the whereabouts I would be willing to take a closer look at the instrument (take additional photos and make some measurements). But I would need a contact. Hello Wayne - would you have such a contact?

Re: Antwort: Re: more about the old theorbo

2005-04-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
more about the instrument. Thomas Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] am 14.04.2005 01:13:57 An:LUTE-LIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Kopie: Thema: Re: more about the old theorbo Wayne, This looks old indeed - but why call it a theorbo when the courses are doubled? It looks like a 10-course

more about the old theorbo

2005-04-13 Thread Wayne Cripps
I have pictures of the old instrument at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/Raillich/ Jiri Cepelak has looked at it, apparently. Wayne To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: more about the old theorbo

2005-04-13 Thread Craig Robert Pierpont
Looks like scalloped ribs? Craig Wayne Cripps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have pictures of the old instrument at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/Raillich/ Jiri Cepelak has looked at it, apparently. Wayne To get on or off this list see list information at

Re: more about the old theorbo

2005-04-13 Thread Edward Martin
It is very interesting. Thos strings look old... they are not original, are they? ed At 08:41 AM 4/13/2005 -0400, Wayne Cripps wrote: I have pictures of the old instrument at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/Raillich/ Jiri Cepelak has looked at it, apparently. Wayne

Re: more about the old theorbo

2005-04-13 Thread Vance Wood
8:41 AM Subject: more about the old theorbo I have pictures of the old instrument at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/Raillich/ Jiri Cepelak has looked at it, apparently. Wayne To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin

Some theorbo photos... ;)

2005-04-12 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all, nothing important, ... ;-) One colleague at the University was cleaning his directories, and found some old photos, taken in 2003, of my then new Dieffopruchar theorbo: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Teorbi011203/ Isn't the instrument beautiful... :-) Arto To get

Re: Some theorbo photos... ;)

2005-04-12 Thread Joseph Mayes
Indeed it is! Joseph Mayes On 4/12/05 7:29 AM, Arto Wikla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, nothing important, ... ;-) One colleague at the University was cleaning his directories, and found some old photos, taken in 2003, of my then new Dieffopruchar theorbo: http

Re: Some theorbo photos... ;)

2005-04-12 Thread Roman Turovsky
Dieffopruchar theorbo: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Teorbi011203/ Isn't the instrument beautiful... :-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

old theorbo

2005-04-12 Thread Wayne Cripps
I got a message and picture from someone who says he has what looks like an old therobo, which he found while working on an old chapel. So I am wondering if there is a good museum or expert who could look at this instrument and evauluate it. He is in the Czech Republic. Wayne

Theorbo in d', first impressions

2005-03-27 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, during the Easter I had time to experiment with my smaller theorbo, Stephen Barber, 76cm:8x1/140cm:6x1. I stringed and tuned the instrument a fourth higher than a normal a-theorbo: C D E F G A B c d g c' e' a d'. The tensions on shorter strings vary between 3.6-4.3 Kg's, basses

Re: Theorbo in d', first impressions

2005-03-27 Thread Dr. Marion Ceruti
Dear Arto, Thank you for your very interesting message. I have 8c ren lutes in G and and a 13c baroqu lute but no theorbo (yet). How many different kinds of theorbos are there and what advice would you have for me as I think about what to order? Happy Easter, Marion -Original Message

Re: Theorbo in d', first impressions

2005-03-27 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Marion, Thank you for your very interesting message. I have 8c ren lutes in G and and a 13c baroqu lute but no theorbo (yet). How many different kinds of theorbos are there and what advice would you have for me as I think about what to order? Well, at least there are the following

Re: (Hoffmann Mandora/Gallichon) - theorbo in the 19thC

2005-03-18 Thread JEdwardsMusic
In a message dated 3/17/2005 4:58:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yesterday I played the 2 Sor pieces from http://polyhymnion.org/swv/opus-2.html on my 13-course. Did it turn it into a guitar? Hi Roman, I was just thinking some of Sor's etudes might sound really well on

Re: (Hoffmann Mandora/Gallichon) - theorbo in the 19thC

2005-03-17 Thread Martyn Hodgson
) played the theorbo (Galpin Soc Journal 1989). There's no evidence as to how it was tuned (and indeed if it was a theorbo or an archlute) but I suspect it may have used a guitar tuning rather like the contemporary 'Bass Guitars' with open bass strings. Am I suggesting we therefore call V's

Re: (Hoffmann Mandora/Gallichon) - theorbo in the 19thC

2005-03-17 Thread Mathias Rösel
Incidentally, on this business of early steps towards using 'old' instruments in performance, are you aware of the 1845 concert in which Ventura (the harp-lute-guitar man and principal competitor of Edward Light) played the theorbo (Galpin Soc Journal 1989). There's no evidence as to how

Re: (Hoffmann Mandora/Gallichon) - theorbo in the 19thC

2005-03-17 Thread Martyn Hodgson
in performance, are you aware of the 1845 concert in which Ventura (the harp-lute-guitar man and principal competitor of Edward Light) played the theorbo (Galpin Soc Journal 1989). There's no evidence as to how it was tuned (and indeed if it was a theorbo or an archlute) but I suspect it may have

Re: (Hoffmann Mandora/Gallichon) - theorbo in the 19thC

2005-03-17 Thread Roman Turovsky
rgds Martyn Mathias R? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incidentally, on this business of early steps towards using 'old' instruments in performance, are you aware of the 1845 concert in which Ventura (the harp-lute-guitar man and principal competitor of Edward Light) played the theorbo (Galpin Soc

Re: (Hoffmann Mandora/Gallichon) - theorbo in the 19thC

2005-03-17 Thread Martyn Hodgson
in performance, are you aware of the 1845 concert in which Ventura (the harp-lute-guitar man and principal competitor of Edward Light) played the theorbo (Galpin Soc Journal 1989). There's no evidence as to how it was tuned (and indeed if it was a theorbo or an archlute) but I suspect it may have

Re: (Hoffmann Mandora/Gallichon) - theorbo in the 19thC

2005-03-17 Thread Roman Turovsky
, on this business of early steps towards using 'old' instruments in performance, are you aware of the 1845 concert in which Ventura (the harp-lute-guitar man and principal competitor of Edward Light) played the theorbo (Galpin Soc Journal 1989). There's no evidence as to how it was tuned (and indeed

Bach Cello Suites for Theorbo

2004-11-13 Thread Stefan Lundgren
Johann Sebastian Bach Six Suites for Cello Solo Transcribed for Theorbo by Stefan Lundgren EUR 40.- $ 48.- „When I got my first theorbo, my aim was to accompany singers and instrumentalists by playing basso continuo. To start reading staff notation on the 14-string theorbo in A, I put

Re: Civiol's edition of Visee theorbo music

2004-09-23 Thread Alain Veylit
Richard just confirmed to me that the pieces in question are transcriptions from the Saizenai MS as well as the Agen MS. Alain At 08:09 PM 9/22/2004, Steve Amazeen wrote: Subject: Civiol's edition of Visee theorbo music I can no longer find the web site where I got this. My question

Re: Civiol's edition of Visee theorbo music

2004-09-23 Thread chriswilke
/2004, Steve Amazeen wrote: Subject: Civiol's edition of Visee theorbo music I can no longer find the web site where I got this. My question is: What is it, exactly? The title page says Pieces pour theorbe sur differents modes De Robert De Visee. Edite par Richard Civiol

Civiol's edition of Visee theorbo music

2004-09-22 Thread Howard Posner
- Sunday, March 04, 2001, at 09:58, it says Intabulated by Richard Civiol. So is it a collection of original theorbo pieces by Visee, or Civiol's theorbo intabulations of other Visee pieces? I trust that anyone who answers will note that the question betrays an ignorance of nearly all things

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