[LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?

2006-12-01 Thread Anthony Hind
Well, not quite, just one more thought and then I will leave you to your world peace (actually I am game for Gut basses vs wirewounds, even if it is a thoroughly worn out topic, but leave that for another day). I was just thinking that your hypothesis (if you will allow me to call it that)

[LUTE] Re: Low tension strings

2006-12-01 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear Ed, Thanks for bringing this up - it's a really interesting point. If I remember correctly there is at least one song in the first book where the bass goes right down to D. But I can think of a couple of points which may help to solve the puzzle: The lute in the song books is (apart

[LUTE] Re: CD's at LSA

2006-12-01 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
They performed in Columbus a couple years back. It was very enjoyable. Eugene At 07:38 AM 11/28/2006, Edward Martin wrote: Thanks, Mark. Now that I see who is in this group, I can imagine they are top shelf. ed At 04:59 AM 11/28/2006 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In einer eMail vom

[LUTE] Re: CD's at LSA

2006-12-01 Thread Greg M Silverman
Still have yet to receive my issue of the journal. P'haps Pony express got held up around Chicago due to the snow storm and has yet make it here to Minnesota? (BTW, never heard of the ensemble below, but Grant is a helluva musician, as I saw when he was here last Winter with Piffaro; am

[LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?

2006-12-01 Thread Jo . Luedtke
Dear Arthur, thank you for this striking example. From now on I will try to put my left thumb into action when playing Francesco's music as often as possible, ;) Joachim Arthur Ness mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I have put some more examples here, including two supposed Francesco portraits,

[LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?

2006-12-01 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Sean, Mark and All I just fully realized what your explanation could imply. If you tune down the the 5thc on a 5c lute, then you could permanently hold the 5c as if the thumb was a miniature capo. If I understand you correctly, then the string tension could be less on that

[LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?

2006-12-01 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 01.12.2006 19:59:41 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark I am just thinking that the idea of the thumb-damping could perhaps be more relevant to metal wound strings. I think many lute players, even today, damp their metal wound strings

[LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?

2006-12-01 Thread Andreas Schlegel
Dear all By the way, the whole problem of basses ringing too long was something that even was a subject for 17th century lutenists with gut strings. The 12 course lute with an extension was only shortly popular in France and then went out of fashion because the basses sounded too

[LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?

2006-12-01 Thread Sean Smith
I'd like to take a step back from my theorising for a moment and ask medieval players what they think of playing a plectrum lute tuned for a mix of 5ths and 4ths. I recently changed my 6-c A-lute to a plectrum set-up (closer unisons, single bases) but am frustratingly unable to play and

[LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?

2006-12-01 Thread Anthony Hind
Yes I did understand that the damping could be used to prevent sympathetic resonances (but I though this would be more appropriate to your electric guitar example with pick-up). At first thought, I am surprised this could be as big a problem with unwound gut strings as with wire-wound. I did

[LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?

2006-12-01 Thread Phalese
Hi, To put it clear, I am not talking about sympathetic resonances. That is a problem on electric guitars, at high volume. But you also see acoustic guitarists dampening when using a plectrum. I also do not have a 6course lute so I can't test any of this. But what is MAYBE the case, is that

[LUTE] lute sighting

2006-12-01 Thread Doc Rossi
this one leaves me speechless, but check out the right hand towards the end. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56WO5ctL8E Actually, I've been trying to find the videos of Hopkinson Smith playing Bach. Does anyone know where they are? To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: lute sighting

2006-12-01 Thread Hermann Kelber
the discussion can now switch from the Sting to Roy Wood ( dear Elaine) for the next several month?????. I have to admit Roy will not developed skeletal/muscular pains in this relaxed standing and swinging type lute posture Hermann this one leaves me speechless, but check out the

[LUTE] Thumb on diapason?

2006-12-01 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Sean, This is the passage from Francesco da Milano's Ricercar 27: |\|\ |\| | | c___d___ _a_b__|___|a__|_ a_|_d_|_b_|_ ___c__|_c__b__|_c_|_ ___a__|___|___|_ _d|_c_|_a_|_ There is only one way

[LUTE] Thumb on diapason?

2006-12-01 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Sean, This is the passage from Francesco da Milano's Ricercar 27: |\|\ |\| | | c___d___ _a_b__|___|a__|_ a_|_d_|_b_|_ ___c__|_c__b__|_c_|_ ___a__|___|___|_ _d|_c_|_a_|_ There is only one way

[LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?

2006-12-01 Thread Anthony Hind
Never having played wih a plectrum or used strumming techniques I did not think about the 'wild strumming' hitting wide of the target as it were, and this being equally true of strumming with fingers. But in an earler message you mentionned the following, I find at least on the cittern that