[LUTE] Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Ron Andrico
   I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that when a
   service is free then YOU are the product.
   This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is in
   fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge, mine
   personal information from its users.
   It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for providing
   this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users.  The lute-list
   is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
   Thanks, Wayne.
   RA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
To: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; dwinh...@lmi.net
CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: praelu...@hotmail.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
   
Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that I
qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use the
data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive uses the
service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of
   personal
information it robs from public interactions and private mail
accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the product.
RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
 To: dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem

 x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use Ive
made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address book. I
never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered by more
and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through x sparked
by Rons suggestion.

 On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:

  To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-
 
  I no longer have an account on x. Please stop x (if
possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other
   requests.
Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer
   have
an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal or
professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this elist
   if
you do not have my personal email address.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Dan
   x

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[LUTE] Re: Linkedin problem

2015-07-21 Thread Ron Andrico
   Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that I
   qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use the
   data-mining service.  As far as I can tell, any positive uses the
   service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of personal
   information it robs from public interactions and private mail
   accounts.  As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the product.
   RA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
To: dwinh...@lmi.net
CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Linkedin problem
   
LinkedIn seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use Ive
   made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address book. I
   never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered by more
   and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through LinkedIn sparked
   by Rons suggestion.
   
On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:
   
 To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on Linkedin-

 I no longer have an account on linkedin. Please stop Linkedin (if
   possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other requests.
   Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer have
   an account with Linkedin- it provides nothing of any personal or
   professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this elist if
   you do not have my personal email address.

 Thanks,

 Dan



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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Over one million records! RISM online

2015-07-21 Thread AJN
   This announcement is worthy of the attention of some of you who search
   for original sources
   of lute music:

   RISM is pleased to announce a major addition to its free online
   catalog
   that strengthens its utility as a resource for the documentation of
   printed music. Two of its major publications have been added to the
   online catalog and are freely available online for anyone to search at
   opac.rism.info
   (_[1]https://opac.rism.info/metaopac/start.do?View=rism_)
   and

   [2]www.rism.info ([3]http://www.rism.info/):
   *
   The entire contents of A/I, /Individual Prints before 1800
   /Released on CD-ROM in 2012 and previously in 14 printed volumes
   *
   A portion of B/I, /Recueils imprimes, XVIe-XVIIe siecles /(Printed
   collections of the 16th-17th centuries), covering the years 1500-1550
   The addition of these printed sources brings the total number of
   records
   in the online catalog to over 1,010,000. New search fields allow users
   to search by *Publisher*, *A/I or B/I number*, and *Plate number*.
   Search results can be refined using the categories *Publisher *or a
   RISM*Series*. Icons of prints and manuscripts allow quick visual
   recognition.
   We would like to express our gratitude to Baerenreiter and Henle
   Verlag
   for allowing us to incorporate the data into our catalog.
   This addition of over 100,000 prints to the online catalog is an
   initial
   step towards revitalizing coverage of printed music in RISM. There are
   certainly many additions and corrections to be made to the A/I and B/I
   data and we ask for your patience as we work out a procedure for
   reporting new information. Institutions or individuals with additions
   or
   corrections to prints already in A/1 or B/1 are welcome to report them
   to us but for larger amounts of corrections, as well as new printed
   items without entries in A/1 or B/1, it will probably be easier to
   wait
   until the new cataloging program, Muscat, is available (expected in
   late
   2015).
   Any questions can be directed to: [4]cont...@rism.info

   Watch this brief video for an overview of what is
   new: [5]https://youtu.be/vXXkhsOCgZ0

References

   1. https://opac.rism.info/metaopac/start.do?View=rism_
   2. http://www.rism.info/
   3. http://www.rism.info/
   4. mailto:cont...@rism.info
   5. https://youtu.be/vXXkhsOCgZ0


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[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Rob MacKillop
Well said, young man!

Rob

www.robmackillop.net 

 On 21 Jul 2015, at 17:39, Ron Andrico praelu...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
   I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that when a
   service is free then YOU are the product.
   This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is in
   fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge, mine
   personal information from its users.
   It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for providing
   this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users.  The lute-list
   is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
   Thanks, Wayne.
   RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
 To: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: praelu...@hotmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
 Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that I
 qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use the
 data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive uses the
 service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of
   personal
 information it robs from public interactions and private mail
 accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the product.
 RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
 To: dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
 x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use Ive
 made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address book. I
 never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered by more
 and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through x sparked
 by Rons suggestion.
 
 On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:
 
 To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-
 
 I no longer have an account on x. Please stop x (if
 possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other
   requests.
 Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer
   have
 an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal or
 professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this elist
   if
 you do not have my personal email address.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
   x
 
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[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Leah Baranov
   Well said, Ron.
   Thank you Wayne...for everything.

   On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Ron Andrico
   [1]praelu...@hotmail.com wrote:

I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that
 when a
service is free then YOU are the product.
This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is
 in
fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge,
 mine
personal information from its users.
It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for
 providing
this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users.   The
 lute-list
is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
Thanks, Wayne.
RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
 To: [2]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; [3]dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: [5]praelu...@hotmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem

 Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that
 I
 qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use
 the
 data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive uses
 the
 service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of
personal
 information it robs from public interactions and private mail
 accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the
 product.
 RA
  Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
  To: [6]dwinh...@lmi.net
  CC: [7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  From: [8]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
  Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
  x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use
 Ive
 made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address
 book. I
 never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered
 by more
 and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through x
 sparked
 by Rons suggestion.
 
  On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld
 [9]dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:
 
   To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-
  
   I no longer have an account on x. Please stop x (if
 possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other
requests.
 Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no
 longer
have
 an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal or
 professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this
 elist
if
 you do not have my personal email address.
  
   Thanks,
  
   Dan
x
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   2. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
   3. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
   4. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   5. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
   6. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
   7. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   8. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
   9. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html



[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Ron Andrico
Indeed, Ron, many thanks from all of us. I wasn't here for its
   genesis but it has been a daily part of my life since about 2000.
   Amazing to think how much I've learned and all the people I've met!
   Thanks go to Wayne, of course
ps Are we depriving a commercial listserver a living by flocking to
   this free daily concert of commentary?
   Now Sean, you should know better than bait the grump.  Wrong forum.
   Wrong context.
   RA

On Jul 21, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:
   
I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that when a
service is free then YOU are the product.
This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is in
fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge, mine
personal information from its users.
It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for providing
this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users. The lute-list
is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
Thanks, Wayne.
RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
 To: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: praelu...@hotmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem

 Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that I
 qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use the
 data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive uses the
 service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of
personal
 information it robs from public interactions and private mail
 accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the
   product.
 RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
 To: dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem

 x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use Ive
 made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address book. I
 never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered by
   more
 and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through x sparked
 by Rons suggestion.

 On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net
   wrote:

 To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-

 I no longer have an account on x. Please stop x (if
 possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other
requests.
 Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer
have
 an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal or
 professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this
   elist
if
 you do not have my personal email address.

 Thanks,

 Dan
x
   
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[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Sean Smith

Indeed, Ron, many thanks from all of us. I wasn't here for its genesis but it 
has been a daily part of my life since about 2000. Amazing to think how much 
I've learned and all the people I've met!

Sean

ps Are we depriving a commercial listserver a living by flocking to this free 
daily concert of commentary?




On Jul 21, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:

  I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that when a
  service is free then YOU are the product.
  This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is in
  fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge, mine
  personal information from its users.
  It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for providing
  this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users.  The lute-list
  is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
  Thanks, Wayne.
  RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
 To: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: praelu...@hotmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
 Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that I
 qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use the
 data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive uses the
 service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of
  personal
 information it robs from public interactions and private mail
 accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the product.
 RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
 To: dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
 x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use Ive
 made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address book. I
 never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered by more
 and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through x sparked
 by Rons suggestion.
 
 On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:
 
 To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-
 
 I no longer have an account on x. Please stop x (if
 possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other
  requests.
 Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer
  have
 an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal or
 professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this elist
  if
 you do not have my personal email address.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
  x

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[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread David van Ooijen
   Me too (three, four, where are we?), Wayne. Much appreciated.

   David
   On Tuesday, July 21, 2015, Sean Smith [1]lutesm...@mac.com wrote:

 Indeed, Ron, many thanks from all of us. I wasn't here for its
 genesis but it has been a daily part of my life since about 2000.
 Amazing to think how much I've learned and all the people I've met!
 Sean
 ps Are we depriving a commercial listserver a living by flocking to
 this free daily concert of commentary?
 On Jul 21, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:
   I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that when
 a
   service is free then YOU are the product.
   This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is
 in
   fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge,
 mine
   personal information from its users.
   It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for
 providing
   this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users.   The
 lute-list
   is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
   Thanks, Wayne.
   RA
  Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
  To: [2]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; [3]dwinh...@lmi.net
  CC: [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  From: [5]praelu...@hotmail.com
  Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
  Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that I
  qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use the
  data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive uses the
  service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of
   personal
  information it robs from public interactions and private mail
  accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the
 product.
  RA
  Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
  To: [6]dwinh...@lmi.net
  CC: [7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  From: [8]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
  Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
  x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use Ive
  made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address book.
 I
  never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered by
 more
  and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through x
 sparked
  by Rons suggestion.
 
  On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld [9]dwinh...@lmi.net
 wrote:
 
  To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-
 
  I no longer have an account on x. Please stop x (if
  possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other
   requests.
  Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer
   have
  an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal or
  professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this
 elist
   if
  you do not have my personal email address.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Dan
   x
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  12. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/



[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Sean Smith

Hi Ron, 

I didn't mean to troll you. I see the differences in the situations. Yes, this 
list is a good thing and if the kindness of certain individuals pre-empts a 
predatory practice _and_  supports a great thing like world-wide lutey 
friendship then something is right in this corner of the world.

Sean





On Jul 21, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:

 Indeed, Ron, many thanks from all of us. I wasn't here for its
  genesis but it has been a daily part of my life since about 2000.
  Amazing to think how much I've learned and all the people I've met!
  Thanks go to Wayne, of course
 ps Are we depriving a commercial listserver a living by flocking to
  this free daily concert of commentary?
  Now Sean, you should know better than bait the grump.  Wrong forum.
  Wrong context.
  RA

 On Jul 21, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:
 
 I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that when a
 service is free then YOU are the product.
 This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is in
 fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge, mine
 personal information from its users.
 It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for providing
 this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users. The lute-list
 is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
 Thanks, Wayne.
 RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
 To: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: praelu...@hotmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
 Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that I
 qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use the
 data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive uses the
 service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of
 personal
 information it robs from public interactions and private mail
 accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the
  product.
 RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
 To: dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
 x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use Ive
 made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address book. I
 never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered by
  more
 and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through x sparked
 by Rons suggestion.
 
 On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net
  wrote:
 
 To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-
 
 I no longer have an account on x. Please stop x (if
 possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other
 requests.
 Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer
 have
 an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal or
 professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this
  elist
 if
 you do not have my personal email address.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
 x
 
 --
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Edward C. Yong
I’ve been on this list since 1995. 

THANK YOU MR CRIPPS!

Edward C. Yong
edward.y...@gmail.com




 On 22 Jul 2015, at 12:39 am, Ron Andrico praelu...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
   I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that when a
   service is free then YOU are the product.
   This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is in
   fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge, mine
   personal information from its users.
   It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for providing
   this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users.  The lute-list
   is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
   Thanks, Wayne.
   RA



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[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread jmpoirier2
   A great thank you to Wayne for his wonderful contribution and support
   to the life of our little lute community. I have been on the list for
   ages and hope it will go on just the same !

   All my best wishes,

   Jean-Marie

   Envoye depuis mon appareil Samsung

    Message d'origine 
   De : Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com
   Date : 22/07/2015 07:07 (GMT+01:00)
   A : lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Objet : [LUTE] Re: Addendum
   Hi Ron,
   I didn't mean to troll you. I see the differences in the situations.
   Yes, this list is a good thing and if the kindness of certain
   individuals pre-empts a predatory practice _and_  supports a great
   thing like world-wide lutey friendship then something is right in this
   corner of the world.
   Sean
   On Jul 21, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:
Indeed, Ron, many thanks from all of us. I wasn't here for its
 genesis but it has been a daily part of my life since about 2000.
 Amazing to think how much I've learned and all the people I've met!
 Thanks go to Wayne, of course
ps Are we depriving a commercial listserver a living by flocking to
 this free daily concert of commentary?
 Now Sean, you should know better than bait the grump.  Wrong forum.
 Wrong context.
 RA
On Jul 21, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:
   
I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that when a
service is free then YOU are the product.
This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is in
fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge, mine
personal information from its users.
It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for providing
this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users. The lute-list
is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
Thanks, Wayne.
RA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
To: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; dwinh...@lmi.net
CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: praelu...@hotmail.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
   
Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that I
qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use the
data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive uses the
service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of
personal
information it robs from public interactions and private mail
accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the
 product.
RA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
To: dwinh...@lmi.net
CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
   
x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use Ive
made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address book. I
never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered by
 more
and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through x sparked
by Rons suggestion.
   
On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net
 wrote:
   
To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-
   
I no longer have an account on x. Please stop x (if
possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other
requests.
Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer
have
an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal or
professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this
 elist
if
you do not have my personal email address.
   
Thanks,
   
Dan
x
   
--
   
   
To get on or off this list see list information at
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   
   
   
 --



[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Charles Mokotoff
   Absolutely, thanks Wayne for everything you've done, its been immensely
   helpful to me.

   On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Leah Baranov [1]lutech...@gmail.com
   wrote:

Well said, Ron.
Thank you Wayne...for everything.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Ron Andrico
[1][2]praelu...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that
  when a
 service is free then YOU are the product.
 This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his
 servers, is
  in
 fact a freely available service that does not, to my
 knowledge,
  mine
 personal information from its users.
 It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for
  providing
 this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users.
 The
  lute-list
 is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
 Thanks, Wayne.
 RA
  Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
  To: [2][3]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; [3][4]dwinh...@lmi.net
  CC: [4][5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  From: [5][6]praelu...@hotmail.com
  Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
  Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and
 that
  I
  qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT
 use
  the
  data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive
 uses
  the
  service may have had are negated by the nature and
 quantity of
 personal
  information it robs from public interactions and private
 mail
  accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are
 the
  product.
  RA
   Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
   To: [6][7]dwinh...@lmi.net
   CC: [7][8]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   From: [8][9]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
  
   x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The
 main use
  Ive
  made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my
 address
  book. I
  never endorse people anymore because then I just get
 bothered
  by more
  and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through
 x
  sparked
  by Rons suggestion.
  
   On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld
  [9][10]dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:
  
To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-
   
I no longer have an account on x. Please stop
 x (if
  possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement 
 other
 requests.
  Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just
 no
  longer
 have
  an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal
 or
  professional use to me. I can always be contacted through
 this
  elist
 if
  you do not have my personal email address.
   
Thanks,
   
Dan
 x
 --
  To get on or off this list see list information at
  [10][11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
--
 References
1. mailto:[12]praelu...@hotmail.com
2. mailto:[13]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
3. mailto:[14]dwinh...@lmi.net
4. mailto:[15]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
5. mailto:[16]praelu...@hotmail.com
6. mailto:[17]dwinh...@lmi.net
7. mailto:[18]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
8. mailto:[19]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
9. mailto:[20]dwinh...@lmi.net
   10. [21]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

   --

References

   1. mailto:lutech...@gmail.com
   2. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
   3. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
   4. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
   5. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   6. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
   7. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
   8. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   9. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
  10. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  12. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
  13. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
  14. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  15. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  16. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
  17. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  18. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  19. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
  20. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  21. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html



[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Shepherd
Just to add my thanks to Wayne, and to say that I've been on the list 
since about 1998-9.


M


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[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread John Mardinly
   What a waste of my life! I have been playing the lute since 1970, but
   just joined this list last year, because I did not know about it. I
   have missed so much!

   A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
   Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer
   EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu
   Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs)
   Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651
   NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652
   JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653
   2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654
   Office: [7]480-965-7946
   John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS
   B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building
   Arizona State University
   [8]PO Box 871704
   [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704

   On Jul 21, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Mathias Roesel
   [10]mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote:

   I've been lurking here since well before 2000. This list has ever since
   been
   a treasure trove to me as well as many others. Thank you, Wayne, for
   offering this great service to us.
   Mathias
   -Urspruengliche Nachricht-
   Von: [11]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   [[12]mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
   von Rob MacKillop
   Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Juli 2015 18:54
   An: Ron Andrico
   Cc: [13]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Addendum
   Well said, young man!
   Rob
   [14]www.robmackillop.net

 On 21 Jul 2015, at 17:39, Ron Andrico [15]praelu...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that when
 a
  service is free then YOU are the product.
  This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is in
  fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge,
 mine
  personal information from its users.
  It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for providing
  this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users.  The
 lute-list
  is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
  Thanks, Wayne.
  RA

 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
 To: [16]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; [17]dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: [18]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: [19]praelu...@hotmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that I
 qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use the
 data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive uses the
 service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of

  personal

 information it robs from public interactions and private mail
 accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the product.
 RA

 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
 To: [20]dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: [21]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: [22]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use Ive

 made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address book. I
 never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered by
 more
 and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through x sparked
 by Rons suggestion.

 On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld [23]dwinh...@lmi.net
 wrote:
 To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-
 I no longer have an account on x. Please stop x (if

 possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other

  requests.

 Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer

  have

 an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal or
 professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this elist

  if

 you do not have my personal email address.

 Thanks,
 Dan

  x
  --
 To get on or off this list see list information at
 [24]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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References

   1. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu
   2. tel:408-921-3253
   3. tel:480-727-5651
   4. tel:480-727-5652
   5. tel:480-727-5653
   6. tel:480-727-5654
   7. tel:480-965-7946
   8. x-apple-data-detectors://6/
   9. x-apple-data-detectors://6/
  10. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de
  11. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
  12. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
  13. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  14. http://www.robmackillop.net/
  15. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
  16. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
  17. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  18. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  19. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
  20. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  21. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  22. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
  23. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  24. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html



[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Sterling Price

I have been using this lute list since 1995. 
Sterling


Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 21, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Charles Mokotoff mokot...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Absolutely, thanks Wayne for everything you've done, its been immensely
   helpful to me.
 
   On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Leah Baranov [1]lutech...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
Well said, Ron.
Thank you Wayne...for everything.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Ron Andrico
[1][2]praelu...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that
  when a
 service is free then YOU are the product.
 This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his
 servers, is
  in
 fact a freely available service that does not, to my
 knowledge,
  mine
 personal information from its users.
 It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for
  providing
 this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users.
 The
  lute-list
 is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
 Thanks, Wayne.
 RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
 To: [2][3]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; [3][4]dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: [4][5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: [5][6]praelu...@hotmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
 Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and
 that
  I
 qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT
 use
  the
 data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive
 uses
  the
 service may have had are negated by the nature and
 quantity of
 personal
 information it robs from public interactions and private
 mail
 accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are
 the
  product.
 RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
 To: [6][7]dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: [7][8]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: [8][9]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
 x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The
 main use
  Ive
 made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my
 address
  book. I
 never endorse people anymore because then I just get
 bothered
  by more
 and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through
 x
  sparked
 by Rons suggestion.
 
 On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld
  [9][10]dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:
 
 To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-
 
 I no longer have an account on x. Please stop
 x (if
 possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement 
 other
 requests.
 Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just
 no
  longer
 have
 an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal
 or
 professional use to me. I can always be contacted through
 this
  elist
 if
 you do not have my personal email address.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
 x
 --
  To get on or off this list see list information at
  [10][11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
--
 References
1. mailto:[12]praelu...@hotmail.com
2. mailto:[13]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
3. mailto:[14]dwinh...@lmi.net
4. mailto:[15]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
5. mailto:[16]praelu...@hotmail.com
6. mailto:[17]dwinh...@lmi.net
7. mailto:[18]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
8. mailto:[19]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
9. mailto:[20]dwinh...@lmi.net
   10. [21]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
 
   --
 
 References
 
   1. mailto:lutech...@gmail.com
   2. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
   3. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
   4. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
   5. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   6. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
   7. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
   8. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   9. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
  10. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  12. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
  13. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
  14. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  15. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  16. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
  17. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  18. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  19. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
  20. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  21. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
 




[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Edward Martin
   My thanks as well Wayne.   Bravo!

   On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Martin Shepherd
   [1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:

 Just to add my thanks to Wayne, and to say that I've been on the
 list since about 1998-9.
 M
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[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Mathias Rösel
I've been lurking here since well before 2000. This list has ever since been
a treasure trove to me as well as many others. Thank you, Wayne, for
offering this great service to us.

Mathias



-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
von Rob MacKillop
Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Juli 2015 18:54
An: Ron Andrico
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Addendum

Well said, young man!

Rob

www.robmackillop.net 

 On 21 Jul 2015, at 17:39, Ron Andrico praelu...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
   I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that when a
   service is free then YOU are the product.
   This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is in
   fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge, mine
   personal information from its users.
   It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for providing
   this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users.  The lute-list
   is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
   Thanks, Wayne.
   RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
 To: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: praelu...@hotmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
 Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that I 
 qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use the 
 data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive uses the 
 service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of
   personal
 information it robs from public interactions and private mail 
 accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the product.
 RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
 To: dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
 x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use Ive
 made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address book. I 
 never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered by more 
 and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through x sparked 
 by Rons suggestion.
 
 On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:
 
 To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-
 
 I no longer have an account on x. Please stop x (if
 possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other
   requests.
 Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer
   have
 an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal or 
 professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this elist
   if
 you do not have my personal email address.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
   x
 
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[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Christopher Wilke

   I'd definitely like to extend my thanks to Wayne as well. Traffic seems
   to have slowed a bit lately. No doubt this is partially due to summer
   activities, but also probably because of Facebook Groups. After having
   witnessed some of the blistering negativity on Facebook, I'm extremely
   grateful for Wayne's hands-off, yet firm-when-he-has-to-be moderation.
   (Remember the initials M.O. anyone?) Thanks for keeping us on track and
   respectful to each other Wayne!
   Chris
   [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

 On Jul 21, 2015, 5:24:42 PM, Martin Shepherd wrote:

   Just to add my thanks to Wayne, and to say that I've been on the list
   since about 1998-9.
   M
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[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread Miles Dempster
Many, many thanks Wayne.!

Miles




On Jul 21, 2015, at 6:00 PM, dominic robillard drob...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Me too, great stuff going on in here; daily.
 
 
 
 On 21.07.2015, at 23:47, Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote:
 
 I've been lurking here since well before 2000. This list has ever since been
 a treasure trove to me as well as many others. Thank you, Wayne, for
 offering this great service to us.
 
 Mathias
 
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
 von Rob MacKillop
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Juli 2015 18:54
 An: Ron Andrico
 Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Addendum
 
 Well said, young man!
 
 Rob
 
 www.robmackillop.net 
 
 On 21 Jul 2015, at 17:39, Ron Andrico praelu...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that when a
 service is free then YOU are the product.
 This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is in
 fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge, mine
 personal information from its users.
 It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for providing
 this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users.  The lute-list
 is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
 Thanks, Wayne.
 RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
 To: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: praelu...@hotmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
 Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that I 
 qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use the 
 data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive uses the 
 service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of
 personal
 information it robs from public interactions and private mail 
 accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the product.
 RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
 To: dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
 x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use Ive
 made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address book. I 
 never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered by more 
 and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through x sparked 
 by Rons suggestion.
 
 On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:
 
 To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-
 
 I no longer have an account on x. Please stop x (if
 possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other
 requests.
 Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer
 have
 an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal or 
 professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this elist
 if
 you do not have my personal email address.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
 x
 
 --
 
 
 To get on or off this list see list information at 
 http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
 
 
 
 
 
 





[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread wayne cripps

Thanks, everyone, for your appreciation!  The list has been running since 1993,
and I haven’t sold anyone's data yet.  But I have played music in public for 
free.

If we are going to get technical, the contents of the mail list are available
on line and therefore are part of the mix of data that does get mined.  Not 
that I
have seen any pop-up ads for lutes yet.

 Wayne

 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Ron Andrico praelu...@hotmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Addendum
 Date: July 21, 2015 at 12:39:20 PM EDT
 To: Ed Durbrow edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net
 Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 
   I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that when a
   service is free then YOU are the product.
   This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is in
   fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge, mine
   personal information from its users.
   It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for providing
   this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users.  The lute-list
   is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
   Thanks, Wayne.
   RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
 To: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: praelu...@hotmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
 Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that I
 qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use the
 data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive uses the
 service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of
   personal
 information it robs from public interactions and private mail
 accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the product.
 RA
 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
 To: dwinh...@lmi.net
 CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 From: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
 
 x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use Ive
 made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address book. I
 never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered by more
 and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through x sparked
 by Rons suggestion.
 
 On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:
 
 To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-
 
 I no longer have an account on x. Please stop x (if
 possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other
   requests.
 Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer
   have
 an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal or
 professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this elist
   if
 you do not have my personal email address.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
   x
 
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[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-21 Thread N. James
   I am here to read and learn (for at least the past 3-5 years).
   I have also finally convinced a wedding couple to hire me for lute (of
   all things)!
   -Neil

   On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Miles Dempster
   [1]miles.demps...@gmail.com wrote:

 Many, many thanks Wayne.!
 Miles
 On Jul 21, 2015, at 6:00 PM, dominic robillard
 [2]drob...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Me too, great stuff going on in here; daily.
 
 
 
  On 21.07.2015, at 23:47, Mathias RAP:sel
 [3]mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote:
 
  I've been lurking here since well before 2000. This list has ever
 since been
  a treasure trove to me as well as many others. Thank you, Wayne,
 for
  offering this great service to us.
 
  Mathias
 
 
 
  -UrsprA 1/4ngliche Nachricht-
  Von: [4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
 [mailto:[5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
  von Rob MacKillop
  Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Juli 2015 18:54
  An: Ron Andrico
  Cc: [6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Addendum
 
  Well said, young man!
 
  Rob
 
  [7]www.robmackillop.net
 
  On 21 Jul 2015, at 17:39, Ron Andrico [8]praelu...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 

I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that when
   a
service is free then YOU are the product.
This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his servers, is in
fact a freely available service that does not, to my knowledge,
   mine
personal information from its users.
It's been a while since we all thanked Wayne publicly for providing
this forum, and for taking steps to protect its users.   The
   lute-list
is a much appreciated remnant of old-school egalitarianism.
Thanks, Wayne.
RA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:03 +
To: [9]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp; [10]dwinh...@lmi.net
CC: [11]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: [12]praelu...@hotmail.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
   
Ed, you'll recall that I made the suggestion off-list, and that I
qualified the suggestion with the statement that I do NOT use the
data-mining service. As far as I can tell, any positive uses the
service may have had are negated by the nature and quantity of
personal
information it robs from public interactions and private mail
accounts. As usual, when a service is free then YOU are the
   product.
RA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:39 +0900
To: [13]dwinh...@lmi.net
CC: [14]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: [15]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
Subject: [LUTE] Re: xx problem
   
x seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use Ive
made of it is to grab friends pictures to put in my address book.
   I
never endorse people anymore because then I just get bothered by
   more
and more messages. However, I did reach Terry through x
   sparked
by Rons suggestion.
   
On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld [16]dwinh...@lmi.net
   wrote:
   
To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on xx-
   
I no longer have an account on x. Please stop x (if
possible) from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other
requests.
Nothing personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer
have
an account with x- it provides nothing of any personal or
professional use to me. I can always be contacted through this
   elist
if
you do not have my personal email address.
   
Thanks,
   
Dan
x
   
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[17]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   
   
   
   
   
   

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   BHP @ Auburn Schools
   Ballroom Dance Instructor @ The Dance Center (Auburn)
   Music Teacher @ The Music Center (Brunswick)
   Master of Organizational Psychology Candidate @ USM
   [18]neiladamjames.com

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References

   1. mailto:miles.demps...@gmail.com
   2. mailto:drob...@hotmail.com
   3. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de
   4. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   5. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   6. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   7. http://www.robmackillop.net/
   8. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
   9. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
  10. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  11. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  12. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
  13. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  14. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
  15. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
  16. mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
  17. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  18. http://neiladamjames.com/



[LUTE] Re: Linkedin problem

2015-07-21 Thread Ed Durbrow
LinkedIn seems to be a fairly useless thing for me. The main use I’ve made of 
it is to grab friend’s pictures to put in my address book. I never endorse 
people anymore because then I just get bothered by more and more messages. 
However, I did reach Terry through LinkedIn sparked by Ron’s suggestion.

On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:

 To Terry Schumacher and anyone else on Linkedin-
 
 I no longer have an account on linkedin. Please stop Linkedin (if possible) 
 from bothering me with contact/endorsement  other requests. Nothing 
 personal, hostile, reclusive or anything; I just no longer have an account 
 with Linkedin-  it provides nothing of any personal or professional use to 
 me. I can always be contacted through this elist if you do not have my 
 personal email address.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 To get on or off this list see list information at
 http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch
https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow
http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/





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