[LUTE] "Equal" temoerament

2019-07-28 Thread Rainer
By the way, a few minutes ago I calculated the first terms of the continued fraction expansion of the twelfth root of 2 (which is infinite and non-periodic-the continued fraction and the decimal fraction :)). This gives in a precisely defined meaning the "best" approximations of 2^(1/12) in

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-28 Thread Matthew Daillie
That is not true Rainer, they simply say that the use of cents is a relatively modern one and anachronistic for dealing with Renaissance music. It is concomitant with equal temperament (in which a cent = 1/100 of a semitone). Best, Matthew Le 28 juil. 2019 à 10:13, Rainer a écrit : >

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-28 Thread Rainer
Very entertaining, indeed. Apparently, they don't have the slightest idea where the concept of cents is coming from. Rainer PS What these guys say about "complicated numbers" and computers in part two is - I am afraid to say - bullshit. These guys are mathematical idiots. On 27.07.2019

[LUTE] This Is My Day for Baroque Guitar

2019-07-28 Thread Gilbert Isbin
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[LUTE] Re: This Is My Day for Baroque Guitar

2019-07-28 Thread Jon Stansberry
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[LUTE] Re: Test 9od temperament)

2019-07-28 Thread Rainer
On 27.07.2019 18:21, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: Im vortail mit dem Puschel und Muschel. Most impressive! Muschel died in October 2002 and Puschel died on 3.03.03. Rainer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-28 Thread Rainer
A cent is 1200 times the logarithm to base 2 of a real number. And the reason for those "complicated numbers" is the rather elementary fact that log(3)/log(2) is irrational. By the Gelfond-Schneider theorem it is even transcendental, but this a very deep celebrated theorem proved in 1934

[LUTE] Re: "Equal" temoerament

2019-07-28 Thread Leonard Williams
I believe Isaac Newton did some work with this as well; unfortunately I don't have a source at hand. Leonard Williams -Original Message- From: Rainer To: Lute net Sent: Sun, Jul 28, 2019 10:16 am Subject: [LUTE] "Equal" temoerament By the way, a few minutes ago

[LUTE] Re: "Equal" temoerament

2019-07-28 Thread Ron Andrico
Galilei arrived at the best approximation with the information and tools available to him at the time. No other system could be more appropriate to the (evolving) music of his time. And he had a grasp of the physical realities of the lute, as well as taste. RA

[LUTE] Re: "Equal" temoerament

2019-07-28 Thread Rainer
You don't understand. He was lucky that the continued fraction expansion of 2^(1/12) started with such "simple" fractions. Rainer On 28.07.2019 16:53, Ron Andrico wrote: Galilei arrived at the best approximation with the information and tools available to him at the time. No