Re: Harnoncourt

2004-04-06 Thread LGS-Europe
I'm just finishing the book by N. Harnoncourt Musik als Klangrede (Music as speech in english, or something like that). I find it very interesting, and worth reading it. Yes, great book. Also try 'Der musikalische Dialog, Gedanken zu Monteverdi, Bach und Mozart'. DTV/Baerenreiter 10781. David

Re: Rumania and Harnoncourt

2004-04-06 Thread G.R. Crona
Hola Manolo Hay un luthier en Romania que se llama György Lörinczi, pero su pagina que antes era http://home.swipnet.se/lute/lorinczi/ ya no parece existir y tampoco le encontré en Google Saludos G. (There's supposed to be a luthier called György Lörinczi in Rumania, but his old homepage is

Re: Acrimony in pop music.

2004-04-06 Thread bill
On Martedì, apr 6, 2004, at 01:56 Europe/Rome, Howard Posner wrote: ?? ! !

Re: Harnoncourt

2004-04-06 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Indeed. I always enjoyed his CD-booklets, which give a lot of interesting thoughts, too! Stephan Am 5 Apr 2004 um 15:10 hat LGS-Europe geschrieben: I'm just finishing the book by N. Harnoncourt Musik als Klangrede (Music as speech in english, or something like that). I find it very

Re: Acrimony in pop music.

2004-04-06 Thread Mathias Rösel
Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: David, you haven't given is sufficient thought, we are talking different things. Relationships between composers and hired musicians are not the same thing as a relationship within a cooperative, such as RR band. apparently, what it's all about is the

Bibliographie

2004-04-06 Thread Mathias Rösel
Paolo Declich [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I got a copy of his Musik als Klangrede only some three years ago. Boy, what an exciting book. Ever translated in English? see http://perso.wanadoo.fr/mandarine/bibliographie.htm -- Best wishes, Mathias Mathias Roesel, Grosze Annenstrasze 5,

Re: Re: Acrimony in pop music.

2004-04-06 Thread corun
Roman wrote: Still, what I'm talking about is not the economics of music, but a simple idea that a piece of good music is invariably a ONE MAN endeavor, with or without a librettist, and this extends to non-classical world too. However this Singularity is extremely rare. Too many cooks

Re: Acrimony in pop music.

2004-04-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
Still, what I'm talking about is not the economics of music, but a simple idea that a piece of good music is invariably a ONE MAN endeavor, with or without a librettist, and this extends to non-classical world too. However this Singularity is extremely rare. Too many cooks result in flimsy

Re: Acrimony in pop music.

2004-04-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
Handel could send his librettist packin', and write for oboe instead. I don't think Elton could ever write for oboe. It's not so hard to write for oboe. Really? Have you tried? But all this is beside the point. Roman made a blanket assertion--about acrimonious breakups being impossible in

RE: Re: Acrimony in pop music.

2004-04-06 Thread Stephen W. Gibson
Forgetting completely such teams as Gilbert Sullivan, Rodgers Hammerstein and Rodgers Hart? Not to mention the earlier mentioned Ellington/Strayhorn...a collaboration free of acrimony and immeasurably blessed. Stephen W. Gibson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Acrimony in pop music.

2004-04-06 Thread Stephen W. Gibson
Did anyone read Alex Ross's piece in the New Yorker a few weeks back about the classical/non-classical, serious/nonserious distinctions that tend to govern our responses to music? As to the difficulty someone mentioned of setting good poetry to music, what of Ned Rorem's efforts with, e.g.,

Re: Not a lute. Medieval Quintern/Guiterne

2004-04-06 Thread bill
dear ed - how wonderful! my german is non existent and i can't seem to copy the main part of the text in order to put it in the altavista babelfish translation service. the article mentions a scooped out korpus similiar to those instruments found in s.america. i assume they're talking about

Completely off Topic

2004-04-06 Thread David Rastall
Nothing whatever to do with the lute, but interesting nontheless: I was in Tower Records a couple of days ago, and I just happened to notice a recording of Peter and the Wolf narrated by, are you ready?, Mihail Gorbachov and Bill Clinton. Also Sophia Loren. There were photos of them on the

Re: Completely off Topic

2004-04-06 Thread bill
i thought the wolf was written for french horn, not sax. what did mihail blow? On Martedì, apr 6, 2004, at 18:31 Europe/Rome, David Rastall wrote: Nothing whatever to do with the lute, but interesting nontheless: I was in Tower Records a couple of days ago, and I just happened to notice a

Re: Completely off Topic

2004-04-06 Thread corun
Bill wrote: i thought the wolf was written for french horn, not sax. what did mihail blow? Ow! Thank you for that disturbing image. ;) Craig

Re: Not a lute. Medieval Quintern/Guiterne

2004-04-06 Thread James A Stimson
Dear Bill, Ed and All: The quintern or gittern is a type of four- or five-course treble lute. There's a surviving instrument in Eisenach, and it's mentioned in detail in Keith Polk's German Instrumental Music of the Late Middle Ages and by Crawford Young in the recent handbook on medieval

Re: Not a lute. Medieval Quintern/Guiterne

2004-04-06 Thread Arne Keller
At 08:09 06-04-2004 -0400, Ed Margerum wrote: For those interested in medieval non-lute instruments there is a brief article (in German) with photo of an intact quinterne found in Danzig at http://www.theiss.de/AiD/2002/6/europa1.php The quinterne/guiterne was found a few years ago in a

Re: Not a lute. Medieval Quintern/Guiterne

2004-04-06 Thread James A Stimson
Dear All: I looked at the photo and it is definitely a gittern/quinterne. Note the separate fingerboard, probably a harder material than the top. But the bridge looks far too wide for a four-course instrument? Any ideas? Yours, Jim

Re: Acrimony in pop music.

2004-04-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
But all this is beside the point. Roman made a blanket assertion--about acrimonious breakups being impossible in classical music because the composition of classical music is a one-person endeavor. The statement ignores all the history of collaborative endeavors, and if, as about 35 posts

Re: Acrimony in pop music.

2004-04-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
It's not so hard to write for oboe. Really? Have you tried? Hasn't everyone? Have YOU? There is no music set to a poem. That's why real poetry is best not set to music, it has its own. Poetry set to music is almost invariably mediocre, more so when the music is greater. If only they

Re: Not a lute. Medieval Quintern/Guiterne

2004-04-06 Thread bill
to me, the grain on the piece of wood covering the fingerboard is the same as that of the soundboard. difficult to explain that seam though. in relation to my charango, the sound hole seems way too large for the body. maybe this and the exaggerated size of the bridge indicates a lack of

Re: Acrimony in pop music.

2004-04-06 Thread Jon Murphy
Good Lord, I've been accused of uninformed comments, but this thread takes the cake. I'll not pick on the sources, too many messages involved. Homer wrote (and let's not pick on the fact that his poems were written down centuries later, and were probably an evolution) before there was polyphonic

Re: Acrimony in pop music.

2004-04-06 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all If music and sweet poetry agree, As they must needs, the sister and the brother, Then must love be great 'twixt thee and me, Because thou lov'st the one, and I the other. Dowland to thee is dear, whose heanvenly touch Upon the lute doth ravish human sense; Spencer to me, whose

Re: Non-lute composers poll.

2004-04-06 Thread Jon Murphy
RT, I'll rise above the temptation to discuss the poetry of the early English. And will only mention in passing the fact that the literature of greater Russia goes back only a few hundred years. And I'll not pick on the loss of the Picts (probably Brythanic) to the Goidalic Celtic languages