[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

> On Dec 11, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Daillie > wrote: > > That definitely appears to be the case. A shame indeed as it must have been a > splendid instrument. > > Best, > Matthew > > On 11/12/2017 21:09, Martin Shepherd wrote: >> OK so we could be looking at a

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

The Working Index, that is the product between the frequency of the strings and the vibrating string lenght in mt, can predict when a string start to be 'not good enought'. I am considering here the case of a plain gut string, not the denser versions (wound, loaded, gimped etc etc). Now,

[LUTE] Re: How to find (new) digital facsimiles

Hello people, this is my very first email in this lute chain :) Somebody have duo lute+violin tablatures? I have no idea where I can find some, I have been looking but even in YouTube there are just a few duo videos of this kind. If someone have some to share I would really

[LUTE] Re: How to find (new) digital facsimiles

Gallica, of course (Milleran, Gautier, Thesausus, Bataille etc.). Besancon for the Barbe MS - Universite de Tours, for Spinacino and Capirola. The Polish universities have a lot in DejaVu format. Bologna University for the Dalla Casa MS. San Francisco U., for the De Bellis MS. Cambridge U. for

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

Question--what is the longest a neck extension can be and still be able to have octave strings? I'm making a pegbox for a baroque lute based on the 14 course Hoffman pegbox--the original is 115.7cm and I might make it a bit longer. I wont bore you with the reason I want it longer--but

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

That definitely appears to be the case. A shame indeed as it must have been a splendid instrument. Best, Matthew On 11/12/2017 21:09, Martin Shepherd wrote: OK so we could be looking at a "normal" Italian theorbo (6x2, 8x1) which has been mangled into something else.  What a shame. M

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

OK so we could be looking at a "normal" Italian theorbo (6x2, 8x1) which has been mangled into something else.  What a shame. M On 11/12/2017 20:54, Matthew Daillie wrote: On 11/12/2017 20:31, Martin Shepherd wrote: Thanks, Matthew - the plot thickens! You say "German-style" bridge - does

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

On 11/12/2017 20:31, Martin Shepherd wrote: Thanks, Matthew - the plot thickens! You say "German-style" bridge - does that mean it might have been turned into a massive "German theorbo" (whatever that is)?  Also strange that the upper neck (as we would say) was modified to accommodate more

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

Thanks, Matthew - the plot thickens! You say "German-style" bridge - does that mean it might have been turned into a massive "German theorbo" (whatever that is)?  Also strange that the upper neck (as we would say) was modified to accommodate more pegs rather than simply being replaced. 

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

According to the museum catalogue, the basses were indeed made double when the neck was shortened. It is surmised that the upper neck was shortened by 500 mm and that this was the reason for the lower courses being doubled thereafter (presumably to compensate for a lacklustre sound from the

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

Dear Magnus and All, A few thoughts: I only recently realised that this instrument existed and immediately found it puzzling.  Matthew's conjecture that the neck has been shortened removes some, but not all, of the puzzle. In terms of the string length for the petit jeu of c.90cm, I have

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

On 11/12/2017 18:50, Matthew Daillie wrote: Another thought: obviously you wouldn't be able to use an octave string for the 7th diapason, it would just be too thin, so maybe if you do decide to have the upper neck at 130 cm, then you could ask your luthier to put the 7th course on the

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

Hi Magnus, Do you really need to use octave stringing throughout? For your 7th and 8th courses, for example, the diameter of the fundamental for a string length of 1300mm should give enough clarity of sound for there not to be a need for an octave to brighten it further. To my ear, the

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

Another thought: obviously you wouldn't be able to use an octave string for the 7th diapason, it would just be too thin, so maybe if you do decide to have the upper neck at 130 cm, then you could ask your luthier to put the 7th course on the fingerboard. Best, Matthew On 11/12/2017 18:39,

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

Hi Magnus, I don't know how advanced your project is but are you sure that you want your instrument to be a copy of the Sellas theorbo as it is now rather than how it probably was originally? The catalogue of the museum confirms that the upper neck was severely shortened and that the

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

well when SOFRACOB still existed, you could cut your own length since he sent them in lengtes of more than 3 meters.. Woul Dan Larson provide strings that that long? or Mimmo Peruffo if you go Nylgut? Bruno 2017-12-11 11:42 GMT-05:00 Magnus Andersson <[1]magnusl...@gmail.com>:

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

Hi all, sorry for the confusion! The diapasons are 1300 mm long, but I ´d need a bit more than that to be able to knot them properly. Best, Magnus On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 5:41 PM, howard posner <[1]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > On Dec 11, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Magnus

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

> On Dec 11, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Magnus Andersson wrote: > > 8 double strings for the diapasons, at 1300 mm. > It was probably shortened sometime from its original length > into this present condition. > The problem that arises is when one wants to string the upper

[LUTE] A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

Dear collective wisdom, I wonder if you might be able to help me with finding proper strings for a theorbo I ´ve commissioned. The instrument is a theorbo by Sellas, 1640, today housed in Paris with the label E. 545.