[LUTE] Re: This list is ending soon!

2020-09-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Big thanks Wayne Your list was great!! Arto On 30.9.2020 13.11, Wayne Cripps wrote: > Hi Lute People - > > The Dartmouth lute list is ending in less than three hours. I certainly > have learned a lot from all of you and I thank you all for taking part in it. > > Wayne > > > > > To get on o

[LUTE] Re: [Lutelist] Purcell on the lute

2020-09-27 Thread Arto Wikla
And if you play continuo, it is not too complicated to play this piece directly from the score. Arto On 27.9.2020 12.52, Mathias Rösel wrote: >There's an edition of pieces by Purcell from Tree Edition for one >archlute. >Mathias > _

[LUTE] Re: The lute list is retiring soon

2020-08-22 Thread Arto Wikla
Big thanks to you for your valuable work of decades!! Arto On 22.8.2020 22.04, Wayne wrote: > Hi - > > I have been running this lute mail list since 1998, and it has been > interesting and fun. Now I am retiring from my job at Dartmouth College, and > when I retire the computers that I have

[LUTE] Re: Ballard 1612

2020-02-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Wow! Thanks Rainer! :-) Arto On 01/02/2020 18:09, Rainer wrote: > https://mazarinum.bibliotheque-mazarine.fr/ark:/61562/mz3446 > > Click under "Télécharger" > > Rainer > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Arto Wikla
I thought every serious lutenist can sing the tabulature lines. sincerely Arto On 11/12/18 21:25, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: What about those of us who compose in tabulature? I also know a few people who can sing off the tab. RT http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora pote

[LUTE] Re: Heres Paternus

2018-05-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi Google translates in (from Latin:) "paternal inheritance" Arto On 30/05/18 19:21, Bernd Haegemann wrote: Dear all, a beautiful pavan by Anthony Holborne. One variant is in the Varietie of Lute Lessons. Is there an explanation of the title? Kind regards Bernd --- Diese E-Mail wurde von

[LUTE] Re: Linear algebra

2018-05-13 Thread Arto Wikla
is a good idea! Arto On 13/05/18 23:00, Ralf Mattes wrote: Am Sonntag, 13. Mai 2018 21:44 CEST, Arto Wikla schrieb: Tiny comment: f#-gb, d#-eb, c#-db, etc. are not octaves! ;-) To that I can only answer with that famous quote from Thomas Binkley: "Details!" ;-) Cheers, Ralf

[LUTE] Re: Linear algebra

2018-05-13 Thread Arto Wikla
Tiny comment: f#-gb, d#-eb, c#-db, etc. are not octaves! ;-) Arto On 13/05/18 22:30, Rainer wrote: A clarification: Suppose you want to place the frets on a lute so that: 1) All unisons are pure. That means the f on the second course has the same frequency as the open 1. course, the g on the

[LUTE] Piece that has no connection to Indian music ;-)

2018-05-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi lutenists, here is a microtonal piece by one of my composer friends. This piece probably cannot be combined to to any Indian raga based performance? But who knows? He who searches, will find... https://soundcloud.com/juhani-nuorvala/kaiho Anyhow, I like this piece! No lutes ther, just a p

[LUTE] Re: India News - Carnatic Music does the trick.

2018-04-03 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Tristan, fanciful and kind of interesting speculations you have had! Many thanks for the fun! I guess just that was your main intention, fooling the credulous. Please, go on with your fanciful stuff! :-) Arto On 04/04/18 00:53, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Sorry, I needed space for the

[LUTE] Re: Some questions

2018-03-16 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi dear lutenist friends I've played many unorthodox lute thingies to the YouTube, oftenmost very badly. ;-) Here are links to some of them: * Pietre Rotolanti: Dipingi nera quella porta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuyf4uha8fs * Something very different: short teenage memory ... ;-) h

[LUTE] Re: meantone tuning tech

2018-03-08 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi dear fellow lutenists My experience in many international "master courses" is that those, who talk most of this or that tuning, "4th" or "6th" or "equal", are just those, who are not the best in the intonation... Lute is a strange animal: you make compromises, you put tastini, you set you

[LUTE] Re: Hole in the Wall

2018-02-18 Thread Arto Wikla
Oops! I have already made the intabulation! Just called it "Purcell: Hornpipe". Here is the tab: https://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Arciliuto/PurcellHornpipe200617.JPG And here is my YouTube example of that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7hRdN00B3w&feature=youtu.be Arto

[LUTE] Re: Hole in the Wall

2018-02-18 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear theoj89294(?) Making an intabualation of that nice piece is not very complicated. If you wish, I can quite easily make one for you in the near future. ... In case you just start signing your messages... ;-) Arto On 18/02/18 23:43, theoj89...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: Dea

[LUTE] Re: John Bull's Fantasy XII is Raga Yaman

2018-02-08 Thread Arto Wikla
ayer matches Fantasy XII, it sounds     like a >     Castello Sonata. I will try and prepare a mix with that, but     I have not >     yet found the right music source. >     Anyone interested may get an mp3 in private email. > > >     Am 07.02

[LUTE] Re: John Bull's Fantasy XII is Raga Yaman

2018-02-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Well, I listened carefully all those example combinations of Bull's harpsichord pieces and the suggested similiar(?) raga performances, and sincerely I could not find much in common between them, just two different sound clips connected. Tristan von Neumann is of course free to name me also "fo

[LUTE] Re: Mystery Solved: John Bull had contact with IndianClassical Music

2018-02-05 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all My friend, Finnish composer and specialist of Indian classical music and culture, commented Tristan's example by pointing to this funny video, which represents the type of joke that is not rare in Indian humour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ueGc2MTGog Arto On 05/02/18 23:44, Tri

[LUTE] Re: Ballard 1614

2018-01-12 Thread Arto Wikla
Big thanks for the great facsimile! To the on-line publisher, the finder of it and also the nice version connector! :-) And I suppose that if you can play these pieces, you also quite easily find out, when there is an "e" and when there is a "c", don't you. ;-) all the best, Arto On 12/01/18

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-26 Thread Arto Wikla
Perhaps this page helps: http://musicofyesterday.com/historical-music-theory/early-history-of-tablature/ Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Odd tuning

2017-04-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Äh, must be G-c-e-g-b-e (I cannot count to six ;-) ) Arto On 07/04/17 17:17, Arto Wikla wrote: Hi If it is the same as in his "Libro Tertzo", the six fingerboard courses are (assuming the 6th is in G): G-c-e-b-e ("b" in the English sense) Arto On 07/04/17 09:29

[LUTE] Re: Odd tuning

2017-04-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi If it is the same as in his "Libro Tertzo", the six fingerboard courses are (assuming the 6th is in G): G-c-e-b-e ("b" in the English sense) Arto On 07/04/17 09:29, Alain Veylit wrote: Anybody knows what the "Cordatura del signor Virgo" is like? (It is for archlute used by Meli) To g

[LUTE] Re: Density of Savarez KF Alliance Strings?

2017-03-15 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Susanne Years ago I went to a pharmacy and asked them to measure the weight of one KF string with their precision scale. I had by myself measured the length and thickness very accurately. After calculatios I got the density 1791 Kg/m³. This has worked to me. I hope this helps! Arto O

[LUTE] No problems on my lute! Was: basses in octaves

2017-03-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi lute gang and Bruno Bruno and others had problems in getting Aquila loaded nylgut CD and normal NNG strings work well in tune, when used as a pair fundamental-octave. I have had no problem in this. Here is the proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVmmPulDLVc&feature=youtu.be The strin

[LUTE] Re: String calculators

2017-03-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Neither I dare let Java applets run, but my most simple calculator runs in JavaScript, see https://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Calcs/mc.html I use that, but you'll certainly find more advanced calculators, too. Arto On 01/03/17 15:59, Leonard Williams wrote: Can anyone recommend a

[LUTE] Re: basses in octaves

2017-03-01 Thread Arto Wikla
In the "dark times", actually medieval times, they used the Pythagorean tuning, in which the major third is even larger than in the equal temperament. That third really is very dissonant! Arto On 01/03/17 10:18, Lex van Sante wrote: The major third is a dissonance in equal temperament because

[LUTE] Re: basses in octaves

2017-02-28 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi Bruno No problems on my archlute's 6th and 7th. CDs and NNG octaves. Arto On 28/02/17 19:56, Bruno Cognyl-Fournier wrote: Dear Collective wisdom, I have been tuning my 5 and 6th course in octaves for years, with wound strings and gut or nylgut. recently I bought the CD loaded st

[LUTE] Re: planetary tuners

2017-02-11 Thread Arto Wikla
I sincerely cannot understand the idea of those hidden "machine heads"! Violinists, viola players, cellists, ..., do not use those. Why should I? The old friction pegs are so easy, fast and good - if they are. I have had the luck of having good ones. But everyone may choose his/her own way, I'm

[LUTE] Re: Purcell

2016-09-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi Bruno Perhaps you can arrange (and select) some of the variations of my arr of Purcell's Chaconne (from King Arthur) to archlute? My tab is in https://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/PurcellChaconne020916.pdf And my video of playing it is in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olsmDP

[LUTE] Re: Haydn on lute?

2016-05-20 Thread Arto Wikla
This group is fantastic! Thanks to everyone! :-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Haydn on lute?

2016-05-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear fellow lutenists. there is some chamber music to lute by Haydn. I just cannot find it! Any advice or help? Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Imprecise diameters on Savarez Alliance KF envelopes.

2016-05-04 Thread Arto Wikla
The difference between 0.50 mm and 0.52 mm KF's is actually not very big! If we take for example string length 600 mm and a = 220 Hz, we get the following "tensions" (well just "Kilograms" on our dear Earth ;-) ) KF 50 = 0.50 mm => 2.598 Kg ~ 2.6 Kg KF 52 = 0.52 mm => 2.702 Kg ~ 2.7 Kg The di

[LUTE] Re: Stringing for baroque lute.

2016-04-25 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all, as I already wrote earlier, the KFs can be calculated as "carbons", the density 1791 Kg/m³ works well. Actually years ago I measured a KF string with my micron and with pharmacy's precision scale. Then it was easy to calculate the density ... Arto On 25/04/16 11:25, Martin Shepherd

[LUTE] Re: Strings for Liuto attiorbato

2016-04-17 Thread Arto Wikla
I have calculated Savarez KFs as if they were "carbon" strings: 1791 Kg/m³ Works. Arto On 17/04/16 16:16, Mathias Rösel wrote: --=_NextPart_001_0026_01D198BC.2C945FD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Collected Wisd

[LUTE] Re: CNRS

2016-03-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Our Finnish word "tiede" (~science) also has this wider European meaning, fortunately! :-) Arto On 24/03/16 20:07, Rainer wrote: On 24.03.2016 18:39, Brad Walton wrote: I believe that the word "science" has wider connotations in French than in English. As - unfortunately - in German. Raine

[LUTE] Re: Pachenbel suite for theorbo

2016-02-23 Thread Arto Wikla
And by the way, these pieces are to baroque lute in d-minor tuning (11 courses is enough), no to theorbo! Arto On 23/02/16 18:55, Wayne wrote: That might be http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tablature.cgi?Baroque_lute/pachelbel.pdf We will see if this gets to the list unmangled.

[LUTE] Re: theorbo tuning experiment

2016-01-15 Thread Arto Wikla
And by the way, all the 6 open strings of an a theorbo, A-d-g-h-e-a, should be familiar to guitarists, too. Only the order is little different... ;-) Arto On 15/01/16 18:58, David van Ooijen wrote: Replacing the second string with a high octave is what some continuo players do. I rem

[LUTE] Re: A Lute of Six Courses

2015-12-29 Thread Arto Wikla
To a 6 courser I would definitely suggest octave on the 4th, 5th and 6th. There really are some good reasons here and there in F. da Milano (don't ask where... ;-) ), and the idea of vihuela having unisons is unbiased, probably just invented by 20th century guitarists. Those poor guys having ju

[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?

2015-11-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Perhaps somebody ordered this painting just to show, how some of his social enemies try to look like civilized, just to mock them. Or perhaps that couple did not pay properly to the painter for his work, and he decided to revenge. And maybe the couple even did not get the insult? Just a though

[LUTE] Re: Repertoire questions

2015-11-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all Perhaps my very old (1994!) "lute continuo school" is for some help to continuo beginners? See http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/continuo.pdf Arto On 02/11/15 20:28, Peter Kwasniewski wrote: Geoff, Many thanks for your note. I can see that the real solut

[LUTE] Re: Repertoire questions

2015-11-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi Peter, Dowland's son Robert published Amarilli with written out tabulature in 1610 in his "Musicall Banquet". It is to 7 course lute, but easily adopted to 6 courser. Arto PS If you wish, I can take a photo of those 2 pages and send them to you. On 02/11/15 18:56, Peter Kwasniewski wrot

[LUTE] Re: String Calc

2015-10-15 Thread Arto Wikla
seful, anyhow. See http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Calcs/mc.html If you wish to use the more general Java calculator, go first to that page, allow Java, use the calc, and disallow Java _before_ leaving the calculator page. I hope this helps, Arto On 15/10/15 19:52, Bruno Figueiredo

[LUTE] Re: Violin and lute.

2015-10-13 Thread Arto Wikla
Herbert, if baroque counts and if you play continuo, there are enormous amount of possibilities. See for ex. our Albinoni: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INPaHCrft6U&feature=youtu.be I play "renaissance" lute there. Arto On 13/10/15 05:46, Herbert Ward wrote: I have a chance to play m

[LUTE] Re: Addendum

2015-07-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Thanks Wayne! I am also one of the very early list members... ;-) Arto On 21/07/15 19:39, Ron Andrico wrote: I feel the need to add a clarifying remark my statement that "when a service is free then YOU are the product." This discussion list, hosted by Wayne Cripps and his server

[LUTE] Cavalli's La Statira music?

2015-05-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenist friends, today I spotted a very beautiful aria by Cavalli performed by Mariana Flores and Cappella Mediterranea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSLbevOzmls Does any kind soul happen to have the "partitura" of this piece or even all of the "La Statira"? I'd be very happy to h

[LUTE] Re: Kapsberger Canario

2015-04-25 Thread Arto Wikla
. best, Arto On 24/04/15 19:03, Arto Wikla wrote: Yep, I've done that. I send it to you in private - the List doesn't accept attachments. Arto On 24/04/15 18:14, Michael Grant wrote: Does anyone know where I can find Kapsberger's Canario tab for a 10 c ren lute in g?A

[LUTE] Re: Kapsberger Canario

2015-04-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Yep, I've done that. I send it to you in private - the List doesn't accept attachments. Arto On 24/04/15 18:14, Michael Grant wrote: Does anyone know where I can find Kapsberger's Canario tab for a 10 c ren lute in g?A I have a copy of the original written for, I believe, the the

[LUTE] Re: Tuner with preset temperaments

2015-03-05 Thread Arto Wikla
At least my Cleartune in Android shows also the frequencies... Arto On 05/03/15 15:01, doug asherman wrote: Hi David: Thanks very much for the info. The tuner is Cleartune for the iPad/iPhone. Great idea, making a list -- I'll see if I can find a tuner that displays frequenc

[LUTE] Erbarme and Mache?

2015-01-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi lute gang, does any of you have happened to number, arrange or even tabulate the "Erbarme dich" and "Mache dich" continuo by JS Bach of his St. M. Passion to (arch-)lute in g or theorbo in a? I could of course do that. But lots of work woud it be ... ;) And has anyone happened to make the

[LUTE] Re: how to amplify lute?

2015-01-27 Thread Arto Wikla
On 27/01/15 23:53, Tobiah wrote: On 01/27/2015 01:49 PM, Arto Wikla wrote: Hi all Just an innocent(?) question: If you need amplification, why to use the lute? Electric guitars are made for that purpose, loud music. ;-) Oh right, and we can just use a Rhodes electric piano instead of those

[LUTE] Re: how to amplify lute?

2015-01-27 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all Just an innocent(?) question: If you need amplification, why to use the lute? Electric guitars are made for that purpose, loud music. ;-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Historical Protestant music.

2014-12-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Herbert, there were no "early music" performances in those days, and so there was no Catholic or Protestant support to these in your 1520-1648. So it was not possible to "support" any "historical performance" either. Perhaps you could clear your question? Arto On 31/12/14 02:58, Daniel

[LUTE] Re: Chitarrone

2014-11-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Why not. Send me some example. :-) Arto On 01/11/14 17:32, Anton Höger wrote: Hi, is there anybody who plays Chitarrone? I would like to test someone a Chitarrone intavolation? Thx Anton To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.

[LUTE] Re: those Pegheadz!

2014-08-04 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I love the violin type direct pegs on lutes: no endless turning and turning as the poor guitarists have to do, just a couple of times down and up, and there it is. I used to hate the guitar tuning "gears"; up, down, up down, tens of times, and at the end it is anyhow out of t

[LUTE] Re: ms. Doni

2014-04-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Yep, I also have the SPES' facsimile. Ordered it years ago directly from the publisher. Arto On 19/04/14 09:02, Bernd Haegemann wrote: http://www.spes-editore.com/shop/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=442&category_id=22&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtue

[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau

2014-04-17 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi, according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v F-Pn Ms. Res. 474 Denis Gaultier, Livre de tablature, p. 8 Perrine, Pieces de Luth en Musique, 1680, p. 8 See: [1]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=eng&id=1&exFilter=1&type=mss&st =0&ti

[LUTE] Re: Frottola, Tromboncino, Sorini

2014-04-04 Thread Arto Wikla
Very good! Thanks for the link, Roman! Arto On 04/04/14 18:38, Roman Turovsky wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNmeGzjK6Ic A truly fine performance, without histrionics. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Ornamental Lutes

2014-03-17 Thread Arto Wikla
Just a tiny comment to add to the well thought comments by Howard: When listening to a baroque orchestra, it has happened quite often that I hear the theorbo even when there is none in the orchestra! :-) Arto On 17/03/14 16:12, howard posner wrote: You play continuo, don’t worry about it, an

[LUTE] Re: making sure your message looks as you intended it -

2014-02-26 Thread Arto Wikla
Seconded! :-) Arto On 26/02/14 20:51, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: Plain text is fine, Wayne. Thank you ! Jean-Marie -- Hi folks - Due to an absolutely overwhelming lack of interest, I am not going to change how the lute list handles formatted messages. Wayne Begin forwarde

[LUTE] Using my string calculators (answer to Leonard)

2014-02-16 Thread Arto Wikla
Java. My oldest calculator http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Calcs/wwwscalc.html is in JavaScript, which is totally different from Java, but that page contains a tiny "sub-calculator" in Java for calculating unknown string material density. The warning must be connected to that,

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-31 Thread Arto Wikla
Jakob Lindberg had a funny speculation: In the old Venice dialect "ti orba" meant "I'll blind you". Just think the problems with the long extension neck... Once I happened to hit the director of a choir, when he arrived to the front of the choir and me with the theorbo; tiny river of blood in

[LUTE] Re: Ballet lute book

2014-01-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Great! Thanks! Arto On 01/01/14 20:03, Andreas Schlegel wrote: Happy new year - and have a look at: http://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/home/index.php?DRIS_ID=MS408_001 Enjoy! Andreas Andreas Schlegel Eckstr. 6 CH-5737 Menziken +41 (0)62 771 47 07 lute.cor...@sunrise.ch -- To get on or of

[LUTE] Re: 2014

2014-01-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Happy luting to every lutenist in 2014! Here is my modest try of an excellent piece by Lully: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3QtFKJcJ_k&feature=youtu.be Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Merry Winter Solstice or Christmas ... as you wish ;-)

2013-12-23 Thread Arto Wikla
So, you may choose ;) I played a tiny "suite" - only 3 parts - in the ms. "Virginia Renata von Gehema", Berlin Mus. Ms. 40264) (D-B40264/145-147). These pieces are on consecutive pages of the ms. Only the Sarabande is known to be by F. Dufault, but it is possible that also the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The comet is coming!!!

2013-11-21 Thread Arto Wikla
;-) Arto On 20/11/13 20:33, Mark Seifert wrote: Being a chronic pessimist, I worry that luters rallying to this exciting opportunity might end up being allowed to play in public only during a cometary visit, sort of like being typecast as comet accompanists. -

[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

2013-11-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, I understand wholeheartedly the need for a good tool for tabulature publishing, but how beautiful are many of the original tabulatures! And they all - also those that are not so beautiful - are very personal! So why not write also nowadays by your own hand? No limitations in the ava

[LUTE] Re: My tiny little Hendrix ...

2013-11-04 Thread Arto Wikla
in a jarring effect that comes off as inaccurate timing. A worthwhile tongue in cheek endeavor. Do you do any Zepplin? Tobiah On 11/01/2013 09:47 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: Very cool, Arto! Keep exploring, do more- it keeps us alive. Dan On 11/1/2013 4:05 PM, Arto Wikla wrote: .. just in case

[LUTE] Re: My tiny little Hendrix ...

2013-11-04 Thread Arto Wikla
heek endeavor. Do you do any Zepplin? Tobiah On 11/01/2013 09:47 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: Very cool, Arto! Keep exploring, do more- it keeps us alive. Dan On 11/1/2013 4:05 PM, Arto Wikla wrote: .. just in case there is any interest, my just a tiny little modest try in http://www.youtub

[LUTE] Re: Madrigals for female voices

2013-11-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Helen, what about the "Concerto delle donne" of Ferrara? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerto_delle_donne For example Luzzaschi wrote a book of madrigals for one, two, and three sopranos with keyboard accompaniment, published in 1601. Transforming the keyboard acc (freely) to lute

[LUTE] My tiny little Hendrix ...

2013-11-01 Thread Arto Wikla
.. just in case there is any interest, my just a tiny little modest try in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFN2nc9B0lc&feature=youtu.be best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Thomas Thackray: Air (allegro moderato) 1772

2013-09-20 Thread Arto Wikla
Oh, how much I prefer the direct recordings (usually in not so optimal home acoustics) compared to the troubles of editing, echoing, mastering, cutting, pasting and all kinds of heavy producing of video and sound files... ;-) Arto On 20/09/13 23:41, WALSH STUART wrote: On 20/09/2013 20:36,

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness - "Would you like to see my lute?"

2013-08-13 Thread wikla
Very interesting! Thanks! But it is quite irritating to see, how obsequious JB is ... Arto On 13/08/13 01:32, Braig, Eugene wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4f8fej9Sqo Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] I got a new 10-courser today: "Home againe, market is done"

2013-07-05 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I just picked my new 10-course lute by Lauri Niskanen, body model Dieffopruchar 1612. The lute is very, very new, it got the strings today, and I just drove 2 x 170km to get the instrument. First try is of course the famous "Home againe, market is done" from the Bo

[LUTE] Two great ladies, Cleopatra and Swedish Katarina in f#-minor by Gaultier...

2013-03-12 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists In case someone is interested, I just "tubed" a direct and unedited home recording of an extremist French baroque lute description of a couple of very strong ladies of their times: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB0P_IXqm5k&feature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/61645403 best

[LUTE] Re: anyone who can re-fret a lute: North London/South Midlands?

2013-03-12 Thread Arto Wikla
Still one opinion: I like and prefer the knot that David vE shows as the 2nd alternative in his page http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/fretknot.htm I learned that knot from my old lute teacher Leif Karlson, student of Michael Shaeffer. Very strong and reliable knot! Perhaps that will work? Arto

[LUTE] Loaded nylguts?

2013-03-11 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi lutenists, are there any recent news of the loaded (new) nylgut srtings? Mimmo? :) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Rochus Berhandtzky

2013-02-21 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Bernhard (and dear List), great introduction, great analysis, great listing of pieces, great played examples and great collection of the pieces by Berhandtzky! Many, many thanks Bernhard! :-) Arto On 21/02/13 14:14, Bernhard Fischer wrote: Dear Lute Friends, Over the last few days I

[LUTE] Re: Newsidler and plucking or not?

2013-02-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Just in case someone doesn't have the Elslein tabulatures, here you'll find the facsimile of my 1980's handwriting in French(!) tabulature by three Hanses: Judenkunig, Newsidler and also Gerle: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/10_courseLute/ElsleinX3.pdf All the best,

[LUTE] Re: Newsidler and plucking or not?

2013-02-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Thank you Mathias, interesting and important comments! What makes me prefer my choice is that many, many years ago I happened to sang "Elslein" in a small group, and the "not repeating" way resembles so much better to the sound of the that "Lied" than the other alternative. Arto On 01/02/13

[LUTE] Newsidler and plucking or not?

2013-02-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, if memory serves, we have been talking about one interesting question of interpreting German tabulature: when (especially) Hans Newsidler repeated a short note after longer one, did he really mean repeating the pluck, or did he thus just in this way express a note with a dot? D

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

2013-01-26 Thread Arto Wikla
f Zannetis, see my page http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/own/Chitarrino/ for my "facsimilies"! :-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Tiny little Capirola Recercar

2013-01-25 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I just "tubed" Capirola's short Recercar decimo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH3D5L8bUyo&feature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/58203825 Nice little piece, but perhaps not so trivial, as it looks like; there are some so called "false relations" (for ex. f against f#) and some

[LUTE] Re: De Visee tab emergency

2012-12-16 Thread Arto Wikla
Btw, a Prelude and Courante in A minor to theorbo in the Saizenay ms.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wezj1r3CdCQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xco973frlJY Perhaps these are the ones? There are also Allemande, Sarabande, Chaconne and Gavotte there... In 2009 my recording equipment was sou

[LUTE] Re: De Visee tab emergency

2012-12-15 Thread Arto Wikla
The two "Saizenay" facsimiles are public. And in very beautiful way, see http://culture.besancon.fr/ark:/48565/a011284026247S0XA9H/1/1 Arto On 16/12/12 02:45, be...@interlog.com wrote: Hi, folks! Hope all is well. I'm sending out a request for a couple of De Visee tabs that I can't seem to

[LUTE] Re: Reconstructing Dowland; deconstructing Dowland

2012-11-15 Thread Arto Wikla
Well, you know the holy Dowland - as the holy Bach ... ;-) Arto On 15/11/12 23:12, WALSH STUART wrote: Well, isn't anyone other than Dan going to reply to this? I was expecting a huge response! Stuart On 13 November 2012 20:33, David Tayler <[1]vidan...@sbcglobal.net> wrot

[LUTE] Re: density of carbon and nylon

2012-11-03 Thread Arto Wikla
;-) Arto On 03/11/12 10:15, David van Ooijen wrote: To add to the confusion, this is what I have: Gut 1360 kg/m3 Nylon 1140 kg/m3 Carbon ca 1800 kg/m3 On 3 November 2012 08:38, Arto Wikla wrote: Nylon 1000 Kg / m3 Carbon 1791 Kg / m3 Arto On 03/11/12 09:01, Herbert Ward wrote: Does a

[LUTE] Re: density of carbon and nylon

2012-11-03 Thread Arto Wikla
Nylon 1000 Kg / m3 Carbon 1791 Kg / m3 Arto On 03/11/12 09:01, Herbert Ward wrote: Does anyone have numbers for the density of nylon and the density of carbon? Or, equivalently, a chart showing "diameter x in nylon = diameter y in carbon"? I used Google for several minutes, but did not find

[LUTE] Re: Chitarrone

2012-10-17 Thread wikla
And you can find Bob's article on-line in http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/spencer/html/ Arto On 17/10/12 11:07, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Actually it seems more likely that both instruments were named after the ancient 'kithara' used by classical Greek poets to accompany their recitatio

[BAROQUE-LUTE] What is this Scottish(?) melody in ms. Balcarres?

2012-10-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I happened to meet one melody in the Balcarres' ms., which I know I know from the times of my early student years - it was actually a recorded example in the appendix record of one VERY early book about computer music (!). The piece was called with a name that was somehow conne

[LUTE] Re: Le théorbe progressif de Helstroffer

2012-09-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Strange, crazy, weird, odd, freak, ..., but interesting! Thanks for the link, Bernd! :-) Arto On 24/09/12 19:51, Bernd Haegemann wrote: So, it seems that the theorbo is the Brahms of the instruments? http://sites.radiofrance.fr/francemusique/em/matin-musiciens_lundi/emission.php?e_id=65

[LUTE] Re: Two tiny Bartok pieces played on a lute

2012-09-23 Thread Arto Wikla
Thanks Stuart, beautiful! Your arrangements seem to work very well! Arto On 22/09/12 23:43, WALSH STUART wrote: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga1n7ZASsu8 Stuart -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga1n7ZASsu8 To get on or off this list see list information a

[LUTE] Re: Consort Suggestions Please

2012-09-10 Thread wikla
What about early Italian baroque? There are Canzone etc. also for 3 voices and continuo. Frescobaldi et co. Renaissance lute is very useful in continuo, too. And also "HIP" in this repertoire. Best, Arto On 09/09/12 20:12, t...@heartistrymusic.com wrote: I have some friends who have had

[LUTE] Re: Over the Dyke, and kisse her ladie, mr. Beck's way

2012-09-06 Thread Arto Wikla
... the piece is beautiful. Could of course be played more cleanly. Just in case somebody is interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVnkBa1hdQc&feature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/48826023 Best, Arto On 02/09/12 21:55, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear lutenists, my "weekend project&

[LUTE] Over the Dyke, and kisse her ladie, mr. Beck's way

2012-09-04 Thread Arto Wikla
.. well, more Balcarres ... the piece is beautiful. Could of course be played more cleanly. Just in case somebody is interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVnkBa1hdQc&feature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/48826023 Best, Arto On 02/09/12 21:55, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear lutenists,

[LUTE] Re: instrumental air de cours

2012-09-03 Thread wikla
Hi In B-Bc5616 FA-VI-10 there is the "Ma raison est donc la maitresse", an arrangement of song by Etienne Mouline. And you can find the fantastic commented and analyzed facsimile of all the ms. by Andreas Schlegel on-line! For the moment I don't remember the address, but it should be found b

[LUTE] Balcarres: so easy and so difficult

2012-09-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, my "weekend project" was to play some Scottish, Celtic sounding small pieces by "Mr. Beck" of the Balcarres manuscript. In a way mostly the music is not technically very difficult, but on the other hand, musically it certainly is not easy! In case someone is interested, the t

[LUTE] Re: instrumental air de cours

2012-08-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Beautiful, thanks David! Arto On 30/08/12 13:52, David van Ooijen wrote: For a cd recording I made earlier this year, I needed an instrumental version of the beautiful air de cour Cessez mortels de souspirer by Pierre Guédron. I am sure I am not the only one who makes such arrangements, but st

[LUTE] Re: Dowland

2012-08-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Very beautiful "Lady Layton's Almain". Thank you Magdalena! Arto On 18/08/12 19:44, MAGDALENA TOMSINSKA wrote: Dear all, this Summer with Collegium Vocale Bydgoszcz I recorded a CD dedicated to John Dowland's music. If you are interested - please look here: [1]http://www.

[LUTE] Re: Mechanical Pegs

2012-08-16 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi Ken and all, I have no experience on those, but I certainly do not miss the times of my modern "classical" guitar: you had to turn and turn those "machines". With the original type lute pegs you just slightly turn the pegs up and down - not too much movement - until you hit the correct pitc

[LUTE] ... just photos ... so very OT ...

2012-08-07 Thread Arto Wikla
.. well, somebody urged me ... Staircase to heaven: https://picasaweb.google.com/114782807109183620580/StaircaseToHeavenAug72012 Saturday afternoon fever: https://picasaweb.google.com/114782807109183620580/SaturdayAfternoonFeverAug42012 more or less "abstract" stuff as is our music ... ;)

[LUTE] Re: Aegidius MS?

2012-08-06 Thread Arto Wikla
Thanks for that Bernd! I had to play one tiny little Aria by the famous Anon.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TuocWhQnME&feature=youtu.be http://vimeo.com/47030859 (vimeo version will be there in 10 minutes) There is lots of good and interesting music in this ms! All the best, Arto On

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