[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

It's also noted in the article that Wyssenbach uses the same notation in his 'Tabulatura uff die lutten' of 1550. Isn't that one a copy of the Italian book? Rainer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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On 06.03.2017 13:41, Roman Turovsky wrote: Wikipedia has strict rules against original research, and all information it permits has to externally documented with reliable scholarly sources. RT I can confirm that! I once tried to change an entry about a piece "that W.A. Mozart had composed in

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list <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments Dear Denys, Rainer I was thinking of the Libro Ottavo, too, but found the same pattern in Intabulatura di Lauto del Divino FdM & del eccelente PPB da Milano � Libro Secondo, Venice, 1546.

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Dear Denys, Rainer I was thinking of the Libro Ottavo, too, but found the same pattern in Intabulatura di Lauto del Divino FdM & del eccelente PPB da Milano … Libro Secondo, Venice, 1546. First instance in this book: First pavana, last system of 2nd page (m. 71), the third cipher is one too

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I couldn't say without looking. I'm remembering a reference by Diana Poulton to an ornament where there are two tablature letters (in brackets if I remember correctly) of which only the first is plucked. Best wishes, Denys Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Mar 2017, at 16:23, Rainer

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Libro ottavo? If so, which piece? Rainer On 06.03.2017 15:58, jo.lued...@t-online.de wrote: Dear Rainer, dear list There is an ornament indication which can be interpreted as an appogiatura sign in Francesco da Milano & Pietro Paulo Borrono: Intavolatura di Lauto, Milano 1548.

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Dear Rainer, I don't have my books to hand just now, but If I remember correctly I think there is some ornamentation in one or more of the Borrono prints - I will look it up later. Best wishes, Denys Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Mar 2017, at 10:49, Rainer wrote: > >

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Oops, sorry I misremembered the hold signs. __ From: Rainer <rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> To: Lute net <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Monday, 6 March 2017, 6:47 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Earliest print

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

. __ From: Rainer <rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> To: Lute net <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Monday, 6 March 2017, 6:47 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments I am not at al

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

Date: 06/03/2017 12:41 To: "Rainer"<rads.bera_g...@t-online.de>, "Lute Net"<lute@cs.dartmouth. edu> Subj: [LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments Wikipedia has strict rules against original research, and all information it permits has to externally do

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I am not at all interested in discussing Wikipedia's policy. I simply wanted to know if anybody knows any printed tablature before barley with ornaments. And I really do not want to receive every reply twice. Rainer On 06.03.2017 13:41, Roman Turovsky wrote: Wikipedia has strict rules

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Wikipedia has strict rules against original research, and all information it permits has to externally documented with reliable scholarly sources. RT On 3/6/2017 7:31 AM, Rainer wrote: Of course, Wiki is unreliable. And - of course - there is no reason to believe the citation is incorrect.

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Of course, Wiki is unreliable. And - of course - there is no reason to believe the citation is incorrect. However, why do you think I have asked for prints before 1596? Barley has ornaments. Rainer As usual you have pressed reply to all :) On 06.03.2017 12:32, Ron Andrico wrote: While

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

as to Wikipedia - it has been trustworthy in most fields of knowledge, with the exception of those areas that are politically contested (this is obviously not limited to Bakfark's ethnicity.). But even those areas are not in a bad shape. RT On 3/6/2017 6:32 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: