Re: Spagna/Francesco

2004-05-02 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 30 Apr 2004 um 9:19 hat Mathias Rösel geschrieben: (snip) If you wanted to say, indeed, that the tenor can be found in the division you would have to ignore 1) frequent changes of octave, 2) frequent change of position of the tenor notes within a measure, 3) measure lacking the line

Re: Spagna/Francesco

2004-04-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
Hi Stephan, by what you wrote I am a little puzzled, I must confess. Okay, let's have another attempt. Contrapunto (could also be called treble or division) is the single line with a lot of fast notes. Tenor is the steady-going three-part accompaniment for another lute. The tenor line called La

Re: Spagna / Francesco

2004-04-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
Four years ago this time, Andrew Hartig, Dana Emery, Gail Gillespie and others talked about this topic on the list. It is, I hope with their permission that I re-post their postings. Thanks a lot to Goeran who remembered! From: Andrew Hartig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: Spagna / Francesco

2004-04-29 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear Matthias, arranging the piece into a solo is worth the effort, too. Just the bass of the second lute (not the tenor as it is already in the melody as you noticed) and the melody (you have to transpose a few basses, though). I played it some years ago with great fun on the guitar, and

Re: Spagna / Francesco (fwd)

2004-04-29 Thread Mathias Rösel
---Ursprüngliche Nachricht--- From: G.R. Crona [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spagna / Francesco Dear Mathias, my memory wasn't too far off :) The tune must have been a very well known cantus firmus. a search on my antiquated PC gave the following: 1. Cavalcanti=similar to Francesco 2. Siena

Re: Spagna / Francesco

2004-04-29 Thread Mathias Rösel
Hi Stephan, thanks for that additional point. I'm sorry to say you misunderstood my point, though. The melody, as you say, i.e. the contrapunto / counterpoint (division) does _not_ include the cantus firmus of La Spagna. The cantus firmus of La Spagna has been embedded into the tenor which is,

Re: Spagna / Francesco

2004-04-29 Thread Stephan Olbertz
= Dear Matthias, = thanks for your reply. You wrote: = I'm sorry to say you misunderstood my point, though. The melody, as you say, i.e. the contrapunto / counterpoint (division) does _not_ include the cantus firmus of La Spagna. = All but one note of the spagna

Re: Spagna/Francesco

2004-04-29 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Sorry for the formatting crap, I try again: Dear Matthias, thanks for your reply. You wrote: I'm sorry to say you misunderstood my point, though. The melody, as you say, i.e. the contrapunto / counterpoint (division) does _not_ include the cantus firmus of La Spagna. All but one

Spagna / Francesco

2004-04-15 Thread Mathias Rösel
Hi everybody, I thought it would be easy to find a file of Francesco's Spagna duet in Fronimo or in TAB. However, I couldn't find one available. Could somebody please help? -- Best, Mathias Mathias Roesel, Grosze Annenstrasze 5, 28199 Bremen, Deutschland/ Germany, T/F +49 - 421 - 165 49 97,