[LUTE] Re: Pastyme

2017-08-09 Thread Arthur Ness
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   The "Pastyme with good Companye" tune is all over the place. Often
   ascribed to Henry VIII, it is more likely to be of continental origins.
   Probably a chanson rustique.  Charlotte traced it for one of her
   seminars, but her professor (famed as reputed inspiration for "Lydia
   with Diamonds in the Sky") did not return her paper.  She found
   many more starting with the list of Pastyme pieces in John M. Ward's
   "The Lute Music of Royal Appendix 58," **Journal of  the American
   Musicological Society** 13 (1960): 117-125.  With facsimile of Roy App
   58 as Plate 4 and transcriptions as Examples 7 and 9 (Phalèse, 1547),
   Ward's list of about 15 sources is on pages 123-4.
   >>>
   Among those I remember from Charlotte's paper is a hymn harmonized by
   Bach (I can't recall the title), and  in a Canadian Jesuit hymnal a
   chorale in the Huron native American language.
   >>>
   I can add another from Barberiis's **Opera intitolata Contina,** sig.
   Ee3v: "Pas de mon bon compagni."  Many know it as "De mon triste" which
   Francesco intabulated and used in a parody fantasia. But many miss
   Perino Fioretino's parody of Francesco's fantasia super De mon triste,
   # App. 32 in the HUP edition.  The work by Perino (Francesco's famous
   student) departs from the fantasia, NOT from the intabulation!  A full
   sounding of the tune appears cantus-firmus-like in the top line.
   Arthur Ness
   [1]arthurjn...@verizon.net
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   Sent: Wed, Aug 9, 2017 11:10 am
   Subject: [LUTE] Pastyme
   Hi all!
   Does anybody have the lute version of "Pastyme with good companie" that
   Paul O'Dette plays on the Royal Lewters CD. I am encoding it into
   fronimo from RA 58 but not getting it quite right. The Phalese version
   (De mon triste [Richafort]) is also faulty.
   Regards
   G.
   PS.
   In Adrian le Roy's "Sixiesme livre de luth 1559" there is a piece by
   Debussy. Did he have a time machine?
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[LUTE] Re: Pastyme

2017-08-09 Thread Arthur Ness
   That piece is all over the place. Charlotte traced it for one of her
   seminars, but the teacher did not return her paper.

   Arthur Ness
   arthurjn...@verizon.net

   -Original Message-
   From: G. C. 
   To: Lutelist 
   Sent: Wed, Aug 9, 2017 11:10 am
   Subject: [LUTE] Pastyme
   Hi all!
   Does anybody have the lute version of "Pastyme with good companie" that
   Paul O'Dette plays on the Royal Lewters CD. I am encoding it into
   fronimo from RA 58 but not getting it quite right. The Phalese version
   (De mon triste [Richafort]) is also faulty.
   Regards
   G.
   PS.
   In Adrian le Roy's "Sixiesme livre de luth 1559" there is a piece by
   Debussy. Did he have a time machine?
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