Re: [Lynx-dev] (a) list mail format error; (b) broken owner- address

2021-08-14 Thread Travis Siegel
On 8/13/2021 9:22 AM, Mouse wrote: now. I don't know whether it's arrogance, just living in the GNU echo chamber, or what, but they seem to expect everybody to Just Know that they think they've rewritten the standard. Standards don't work that way. They do if you're microsoft.  How many

Re: [Lynx-dev] (a) list mail format error; (b) broken owner- address

2021-08-13 Thread Mouse
> Majordomo uses -owner, for the default envelope address Sure, for the envelope address, use whatever you want. $LIST-owner, $LIST-bounces, $LIST-bounces=$ENCODED_RECIPIENT, whatever. If anything, I'd say this is an argument _against_ using -owner for the "contact a human" address, because, in

Re: [Lynx-dev] (a) list mail format error; (b) broken owner- address

2021-08-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
David Woolley dixit: > Majordomo uses -owner, for the default envelope address and > only suggests -request, not request-, although it > does suggest defining both -owner and owner-. sendmail only requires owner-* to switch the address into “list” mode. bye, //mirabilos -- Gestern Nacht ist

Re: [Lynx-dev] (a) list mail format error; (b) broken owner- address

2021-08-13 Thread David Woolley
On 13/08/2021 14:22, Mouse wrote: That's a GNU mailman idiosyncracy, deciding to ignore the established, albeit de-facto, standard. Majordomo uses -owner, for the default envelope address and only suggests -request, not request-, although it does suggest defining both -owner and owner-. I

Re: [Lynx-dev] (a) list mail format error; (b) broken owner- address

2021-08-13 Thread Mouse
> > RCPT To: > That's not the standard owner address, It is, to the extent that there is a standard. It has come to my attention, thanks to a different list that was exhibiting the same misbehaviour, that GNU mailman thinks itself empowered to unilaterally impose a different `standard'.

Re: [Lynx-dev] (a) list mail format error; (b) broken owner- address

2021-08-13 Thread David Woolley
On 12/08/2021 18:48, Mouse wrote: RCPT To: That's not the standard owner address, which would be lynx-dev-ow...@nongnu.org. It's an implementation detail of some mail reflectors that there is an alias for owner-, but all the official administration addresses start with, rather than end

Re: [Lynx-dev] (a) list mail format error; (b) broken owner- address

2021-08-13 Thread Mouse
>> I tried to send mail to lynx-dev's owner- address, raising a >> consistent malformatting issue in list mail (see below), and got a >> bounce indicating even more issues. So I'm wondering if I could get >> whoever runs the list to (a) deal with the issue I tried to raise > at that level, you'd

Re: [Lynx-dev] (a) list mail format error; (b) broken owner- address

2021-08-12 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 01:48:12PM -0400, Mouse wrote: > My apologies to most listmembers for the noise; the usual address to > reach the listowner doesn't seem to be working (see below). > > I tried to send mail to lynx-dev's owner- address, raising a > consistent malformatting issue in list