Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-10 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 02:48:03AM +, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 11.03.2018 um 01:29 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > > I think our main point of difference is below. If the LyX 2.3.0 > > installer successfully installs LyX, but has a bad secondary effect, I'm > > guessing you would agree that a

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 11.03.2018 um 01:29 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: I think our main point of difference is below. If the LyX 2.3.0 installer successfully installs LyX, but has a bad secondary effect, I'm guessing you would agree that a dialog would make sense, right? I am not the developer of MiKTeX but I see

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 10.03.2018 um 21:37 schrieb Uwe Stöhr: Meanwhile I got the report that version 4 of the LyX Win installer fails on some 64bit Windows. I am currently working on this and will most probably come up with another version of the installer that fixes this. I could fix this now. I indeed forgot

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-10 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 12:25:12AM +, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 11.03.2018 um 00:57 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > > If in the LyX 2.3.0 installer we provide an informative dialog, the user > > might say "oh I did not know that LyX needed to update MiKTeX. I will > > not install LyX now because I

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-10 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 12:04:38AM +, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 11.03.2018 um 00:57 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > > I believe their goal is to get a working LyX, but they are not aware > > that they might be paying a cost. They might not want to update MiKTeX, > > and they should not expect that

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 11.03.2018 um 00:57 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: If in the LyX 2.3.0 installer we provide an informative dialog, the user might say "oh I did not know that LyX needed to update MiKTeX. I will not install LyX now because I need to submit my paper tomorrow. After I submit my paper, I can deal with

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 11.03.2018 um 00:57 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: I believe their goal is to get a working LyX, but they are not aware that they might be paying a cost. They might not want to update MiKTeX, and they should not expect that LyX is going to update MiKTeX. Thus, although they might want a working

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-10 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 11:53:36PM +, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 10.03.2018 um 21:37 schrieb Uwe Stöhr: > > > I understand what you wrote but not your goal behind it. > > I use the LyX installer to install LyX. Therefore I expect a working LyX > > afterwards. > > In other words: > > - we agree

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-10 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 08:37:30PM +, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 09.03.2018 um 18:33 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > > Do you understand the argument that I, Richard, Jean-Marc, and racoon > > have expressed (to those I cite, please correct me if I misrepresent > > your opinion)? > > I understand

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 10.03.2018 um 21:37 schrieb Uwe Stöhr: I understand what you wrote but not your goal behind it. I use the LyX installer to install LyX. Therefore I expect a working LyX afterwards. In other words: - we agree that users who run an installer of LyX want * to get LyX * a working LyX So

Re: Update on 2.3.0 situation and Windows-specific issues

2018-03-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 09.03.2018 um 18:33 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: Do you understand the argument that I, Richard, Jean-Marc, and racoon have expressed (to those I cite, please correct me if I misrepresent your opinion)? I understand what you wrote but not your goal behind it. I use the LyX installer to install

Re: [RFC][PATCH] native file dialogs

2018-03-10 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Donnerstag, 1. Februar 2018 08:22:30 CET schrieb Guenter Milde : > On 2018-01-31, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 31.01.2018, 11:00 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > >> Le 31/01/2018 à 08:20, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : > ... > > >> > The nice thing