Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-28 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Enrico Forestieri wrote: Cool, could you please send me your dvipng.exe? I have no problem in doing that but it is a cygwin application which thinks she is dealing with tetex and it only works because I have a bunch of scripts which make it appear as if I have tetex when in effect I am using

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-28 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Enrico Forestieri wrote: Cool, could you please send me your dvipng.exe? > I have no problem in doing that but it is a cygwin application which thinks she is dealing with tetex and it only works because I have a bunch of scripts which make it appear as if I have tetex when in effect I am

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-27 Thread Helge Hafting
Bo Peng wrote: No it tells the user please browse you hard disk to find a suitable application. And it forgets to add good luck. I do not see how someone is going to think about installing gsview. Windows users may be incompetent, but not stupid. No viewer found is a *common* behavior

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-27 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 08:57:12AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: Bo Peng wrote: No it tells the user please browse you hard disk to find a suitable application. And it forgets to add good luck. I do not see how someone is going to think about installing gsview. Windows users may be

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Enrico == Enrico Forestieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Enrico But you need to reconfigure. Not with viewers and latest patch from Bo. Enrico This has bitten me with dvipng. It was not working and I Enrico removed it. But I still could not instant-preview because png Enrico format was still

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Enrico Forestieri wrote: This has bitten me with dvipng. It was not working and I removed it. But I still could not instant-preview because png format was still requested and it was not recognized by the legacy python script. So I patched it to also deal with png images. For information: This

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For information: This dvipng bug has been fixed and the MiKTeX developer will provide a new compiled version together with the upcoming MiKTeX 2.5. For the meantime LyXWinInstaller deletes the dvipng.exe from your MiKTeX system. This doesn't harm because

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-27 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:18:15PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Enrico Forestieri wrote: This has bitten me with dvipng. It was not working and I removed it. But I still could not instant-preview because png format was still requested and it was not recognized by the legacy python script. So I

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Enrico Forestieri wrote: Thanks Uwe, but I solved the problem my way and compiled a new version of dvipng not having the bug. Cool, could you please send me your dvipng.exe? Many thanks in advance and regards Uwe

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Angus Leeming schrieb: Who says that dvipng is used only by LyX? That's absolute nonsense. I'd much rather you edited lyxpreview2bitmap.py to always call the legacy script. I know, I just to stir you up to complain and tell be a better solution ;-) best regards and thanks Uwe

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who says that dvipng is used only by LyX? That's absolute nonsense. I'd much rather you edited lyxpreview2bitmap.py to always call the legacy script. I know, I just to stir you up to complain and tell be a better solution ;-) The clever solution would

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-27 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 11:20:20PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Andre Isn't is strange the in a conversion between [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] it Andre is the former who is claiming to be a frog-eating female? You mean all frenchies are females? How could I possibly tell?

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-27 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 06:15:21PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Enrico Forestieri wrote: Thanks Uwe, but I solved the problem my way and compiled a new version of dvipng not having the bug. Cool, could you please send me your dvipng.exe? Many thanks in advance and regards Uwe I have no

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-27 Thread Helge Hafting
Bo Peng wrote: No it tells the user "please browse you hard disk to find a suitable application". And it forgets to add "good luck". I do not see how someone is going to think about installing gsview. Windows users may be incompetent, but not stupid. "No viewer found" is a *common*

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-27 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 08:57:12AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > Bo Peng wrote: > > >>No it tells the user "please browse you hard disk to find a suitable > >>application". And it forgets to add "good luck". I do not see how > >>someone is going to think about installing gsview. > >> > >> > >

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Enrico" == Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Enrico> But you need to reconfigure. Not with viewers and latest patch from Bo. Enrico> This has bitten me with dvipng. It was not working and I Enrico> removed it. But I still could not instant-preview because png Enrico> format

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Enrico Forestieri wrote: This has bitten me with dvipng. It was not working and I removed it. But I still could not instant-preview because png format was still requested and it was not recognized by the legacy python script. So I patched it to also deal with png images. For information: This

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For information: This dvipng bug has been fixed and the > MiKTeX developer will provide a new compiled version together > with the upcoming MiKTeX 2.5. For the meantime LyXWinInstaller > deletes the dvipng.exe from your MiKTeX system. This doesn't > harm

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-27 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:18:15PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > >This has bitten me with dvipng. It was > >not working and I removed it. But I still could not instant-preview > >because png format was still requested and it was not recognized by > >the legacy python

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Enrico Forestieri wrote: Thanks Uwe, but I solved the problem my way and compiled a new version of dvipng not having the bug. Cool, could you please send me your dvipng.exe? Many thanks in advance and regards Uwe

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Angus Leeming schrieb: Who says that dvipng is used only by LyX? That's absolute nonsense. > > I'd much rather you edited lyxpreview2bitmap.py to always call the > "legacy" script. I know, I just to stir you up to complain and tell be a better solution ;-) best regards and thanks Uwe

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Who says that dvipng is used only by LyX? That's absolute nonsense. >> I'd much rather you edited lyxpreview2bitmap.py to always call the >> "legacy" script. > I know, I just to stir you up to complain and tell be a better solution ;-) The "clever"

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-27 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 11:20:20PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Andre> Isn't is strange the in a conversion between [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > [EMAIL PROTECTED] it > Andre> is the former who is claiming to be a frog-eating female? > > You mean all frenchies are females? How could I

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1 - dvipng

2006-04-27 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 06:15:21PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > >Thanks Uwe, but I solved the problem my way and compiled a new version > >of dvipng not having the bug. > > Cool, could you please send me your dvipng.exe? > > Many thanks in advance and regards > Uwe I

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe you swapped with William (ala The Curse of the Werewilliam). Angus He's quite sparky actually; more so than his dad ;-) I did not mean to make him look bad. I just suggested that you are still better than him at hacking LyX (not for

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Enrico == Enrico Forestieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Enrico And we were both right, of course, only somewhat blind... Enrico Please, have a look at the attached patch... How Enrico embarassing... there even is a LYX_LOCALEDIR env var fitting Enrico the purpose. Embarrassing indeed (for me

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Angus If you're talking cartoons, I preferred Belleville Angus Rendez-vous; much subtler, cleverer and probably still Angus appropriate to this conversation ;-) Strangely enough, my kids love this one, although I would put it in the great but depressing category.

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Enrico And we were both right, of course, only somewhat blind... Enrico Please, have a look at the attached patch... How Enrico embarassing... there even is a LYX_LOCALEDIR env var fitting Enrico the purpose. Embarrassing indeed (for me maybe). Shouldn't you use +

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus Oh, I'm probably one of the three frog-eating sisters. Totally Angus mindless and running on autopilot. I'm not sure they are so mindless. They are quite efficient when it comes to action, actually. JMarc

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Enrico Forestieri wrote: Certainly, you shouldn't use strrchr et al. If the code below can't be made to work, then there's a heap of useful functions to do what you're trying to achieve in src/support/filetools.[Ch]. Angus, I am proficient in C not in C++. Please, can you explain why strrchr

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Angus Oh, I'm probably one of the three frog-eating sisters. Totally Angus mindless and running on autopilot. I'm not sure they are so mindless. They are quite efficient when it comes to action, actually. Well, fish are quite efficient at eating other fish and

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Enrico And we were both right, of course, only somewhat blind... Enrico Please, have a look at the attached patch... How Enrico embarassing... there even is a LYX_LOCALEDIR env var fitting Enrico the purpose.

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Angus The locale dir is relative to the directory holding the LyX Angus executable, so Enrico's fix (which presumably is tested ;-)) Angus looks right to me: So why does the code say otherwise? Because it's unmaintained and you keep changing the configure script?

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: The locale dir is relative to the Angus directory holding the LyX executable, so Enrico's fix (which Angus presumably is tested ;-)) looks right to me: So why does the code say otherwise? Angus Because it's

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, what I am trying to convey is that the localedir is relative to the support dir, the binary dir. This is what is documented actually: // The locale directory relative to the LyX system directory. string const relative_locale_dir() {

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus Confusion? Senility? I don't have easy access to the source Angus code from my work machine and there's no viewsvn on the LyX Angus web site so you have to rely on my fading memory? I definitely have an advantage over you here, because

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the comment are correct and Enrico's patch is the right one. I just suggested a small improvement on it by removing the unneeded ../Resources. Unneeded because it's redundant because we're already in the Resources directory? Anyway, I'm

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the comment are correct and Enrico's patch is the right one. I just suggested a small improvement on it by removing the unneeded ../Resources. Angus Unneeded because it's redundant

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 02:59:34PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus Confusion? Senility? I don't have easy access to the source Angus code from my work machine and there's no viewsvn on the LyX Angus web site so you have to rely on my

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:19:18AM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Angus If you're talking cartoons, I preferred Belleville Angus Rendez-vous; much subtler, cleverer and probably still Angus appropriate to this conversation ;-) Strangely enough, my kids love this

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre Isn't is strange the in a conversion between [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] it Andre is the former who is claiming to be a frog-eating female? You mean all frenchies are females? JMarc

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, I'm probably one of the three frog-eating sisters. Totally mindless and running on autopilot. Isn't is strange the in a conversion between a at uk and b at fr it is the former who is claiming to be a frog-eating female? N'oubliez pas

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus Après avoir dit cela, le dessin animé en question est canadien! Imdb says France/Belgium/UK/Canada. Pick the one you prefer... And the director is french, I believe. JMarc

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus Après avoir dit cela, le dessin animé en question est canadien! Imdb says France/Belgium/UK/Canada. Pick the one you prefer... And the director is french, I believe. ...and not a

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Maybe you swapped with William (ala "The Curse of the >> Werewilliam"). Angus> He's quite sparky actually; more so than his dad ;-) I did not mean to make him look bad. I just suggested that you are still better than him at hacking

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Enrico" == Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Enrico> And we were both right, of course, only somewhat blind... Enrico> Please, have a look at the attached patch... How Enrico> embarassing... there even is a LYX_LOCALEDIR env var fitting Enrico> the purpose. Embarrassing

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Angus> If you're talking cartoons, I preferred "Belleville Angus> Rendez-vous"; much subtler, cleverer and probably still Angus> appropriate to this conversation ;-) Strangely enough, my kids love this one, although I would put it in the "great but depressing"

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Enrico> And we were both right, of course, only somewhat blind... Enrico> Please, have a look at the attached patch... How Enrico> embarassing... there even is a LYX_LOCALEDIR env var fitting Enrico> the purpose. Embarrassing indeed (for me maybe). Shouldn't you use

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Oh, I'm probably one of the three frog-eating sisters. Totally Angus> mindless and running on autopilot. I'm not sure they are so mindless. They are quite efficient when it comes to action, actually. JMarc

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Enrico Forestieri wrote: Certainly, you shouldn't use strrchr et al. If the code below can't be made to work, then there's a heap of useful functions to do what you're trying to achieve in src/support/filetools.[Ch]. Angus, I am proficient in C not in C++. Please, can you explain why strrchr

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Angus> Oh, I'm probably one of the three frog-eating sisters. Totally Angus> mindless and running on autopilot. I'm not sure they are so mindless. They are quite efficient when it comes to action, actually. Well, fish are quite efficient at eating other fish and

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Enrico> And we were both right, of course, only somewhat blind... Enrico> Please, have a look at the attached patch... How Enrico> embarassing... there even is a LYX_LOCALEDIR env var fitting Enrico> the

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Angus> The locale dir is relative to the directory holding the LyX Angus> executable, so Enrico's fix (which presumably is tested ;-)) Angus> looks right to me: So why does the code say otherwise? Because it's unmaintained and you keep changing the configure

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: The locale dir is relative to the Angus> directory holding the LyX executable, so Enrico's fix (which Angus> presumably is tested ;-)) looks right to me: >> So why does the code say otherwise? Angus>

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No, what I am trying to convey is that the localedir is relative to > the support dir, the binary dir. This is what is documented actually: > // The locale directory relative to the LyX system directory. > string const relative_locale_dir() > { >

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Confusion? Senility? I don't have easy access to the source Angus> code from my work machine and there's no "viewsvn" on the LyX Angus> web site so you have to rely on my fading memory? I definitely have an advantage over you

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think the comment are correct and Enrico's patch is the right one. I > just suggested a small improvement on it by removing the unneeded > "../Resources". Unneeded because it's redundant because we're already in the Resources directory?

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I think the comment are correct and Enrico's patch is the right >> one. I just suggested a small improvement on it by removing the >> unneeded "../Resources". Angus> Unneeded

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 02:59:34PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Angus> Confusion? Senility? I don't have easy access to the source > Angus> code from my work machine and there's no "viewsvn" on the LyX > Angus> web site so you

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:19:18AM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >Angus> If you're talking cartoons, I preferred "Belleville > >Angus> Rendez-vous"; much subtler, cleverer and probably still > >Angus> appropriate to this conversation ;-) > > >Strangely enough, my

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> Isn't is strange the in a conversion between [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] it Andre> is the former who is claiming to be a frog-eating female? You mean all frenchies are females? JMarc

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Oh, I'm probably one of the three frog-eating sisters. Totally mindless and >> running on autopilot. > Isn't is strange the in a conversion between a uk and b fr it is > the former who is claiming to be a frog-eating female? N'oubliez pas

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Après avoir dit cela, le dessin animé en question est canadien! Imdb says France/Belgium/UK/Canada. Pick the one you prefer... And the director is french, I believe. JMarc

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Angus> Après avoir dit cela, le dessin animé en question est canadien! > > Imdb says France/Belgium/UK/Canada. Pick the one you prefer... And the > director is french, I believe.

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Asger Ottar Alstrup
Regarding administrative rights, I'm surprised the obvious solution has not been aired: When the installer is started without administrative rights, warn the user that the bundled Python and Miktex only install with administrative rights. Explain the consequences of this: PDF and Postscript

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Bo == Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bo And we are getting rid of ghostview. Are we? Why? So (with your auto patch) users would see a ViewPostscript entry and wonder forever why it does not do anything useful? Remember we require ghostscript too, and Uwe claims that the installer of the

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Angus Leeming
Enrico Forestieri wrote: I think that you used the attached or similar program for the conversion. Please, don't do that because this one also converts between char sets and it is not what you want. Yes, possibly. I'm certainly aware that it does horrible things with char sets occasionally.

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: Anyway, thanks for confirming that these .ini files are OK. Now that I know that the thing *should* work with Win98, I'll investigate further. Good news. After I compiled the plug-in and recompiled the installer, it works fine on Win98. So maybe the way you compile the

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Angus Leeming
Joost Verburg wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: Anyway, thanks for confirming that these .ini files are OK. Now that I know that the thing *should* work with Win98, I'll investigate further. Good news. After I compiled the plug-in and recompiled the installer, it works fine on Win98. So maybe

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Stephen Harris schrieb: Uwe's installer requires searching the Windows registry in a way that is avoided by the Angus installer. Uwe likes this. No, you don't need admin privileges to _read_ registry entries, we need to _write_ some, for example the global PATH variable for Imagemagick.

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: Remember we require ghostscript too, and Uwe claims that the installer of the latest GPL version is not good enough. The latest installer versions don't use GS's installer. GS is now installed silently. I explained it in my multiple answers post why I use AFPL

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Georg Baum
Uwe Stöhr wrote: No, you don't need admin privileges to _read_ registry entries, we need to _write_ some, for example the global PATH variable for Imagemagick. ??? I thought that the path_prefix rc value was invented to overcome this problem, so setting a global PATH is not needed? Georg

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: Interesting. Could you post the details of your compiler, compiler command, the system you compiled this on, version of NSIS etc. Are there any introspection tools that can compare two ostensibly identical installers and highlight the differences? It's definitely related

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Stephen Harris
Uwe Stöhr wrote: Stephen Harris schrieb: Next, the Win1.4.x installer is still beta and there is a list of potential problems at http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX14x so it is prudent/competent to install the LyX1.3.7 version. It's not beta! LyXWIninstaller is now very stable: I have

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Angus Leeming
Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello LyXers, under https://developer.berlios.de/ you can find the windows installer for LyX 1.4.1. A belated congratulations, Uwe! These problems are known: - LyX's menus are not localized (english is used) H. What's strange is that it worked for me

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Angus Leeming wrote: These problems are known: - LyX's menus are not localized (english is used) H. What's strange is that it worked for me on my box when I was packaging this up. I'll find some time to investigate further. Hello Angus, this problem occurs also in your LyX 1.4svn

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Uwe Stöhr a écrit : Angus Leeming wrote: These problems are known: - LyX's menus are not localized (english is used) H. What's strange is that it worked for me on my box when I was packaging this up. I'll find some time to investigate further. Hello Angus, this problem occurs also

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Georg Baum schrieb: No, you don't need admin privileges to _read_ registry entries, we need to _write_ some, for example the global PATH variable for Imagemagick. ??? I thought that the path_prefix rc value was invented to overcome this problem, so setting a global PATH is not needed? Yes

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Angus Leeming
Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uwe Stöhr a écrit : this problem occurs also in your LyX 1.4svn builds when I use your installer. I got many emails from users who claimed about this. I had a look at this but couldn't find the problem, I assume a problem when LyX is

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Angus Leeming
Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus Leeming wrote: Interesting. Could you post the details of your compiler, compiler command, the system you compiled this on, version of NSIS etc. Are there any introspection tools that can compare two ostensibly identical installers and

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 10:21:26AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Bo == Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bo And we are getting rid of ghostview. Are we? Why? So (with your auto patch) users would see a ViewPostscript entry and wonder forever why it does not do anything useful? I

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Bo Peng
Bo And we are getting rid of ghostview. Are we? Why? So (with your auto patch) users would see a ViewPostscript entry and wonder forever why it does not do anything useful? I tested Bo's patch and can tell that in this case they see a dialog informing them that a default viewer for

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Stephen Harris
Uwe Stöhr wrote: Georg Baum schrieb: No, you don't need admin privileges to _read_ registry entries, we need to _write_ some, for example the global PATH variable for Imagemagick. ??? I thought that the path_prefix rc value was invented to overcome this problem, so setting a global PATH is

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 11:45:25AM +, Angus Leeming wrote: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello LyXers, under https://developer.berlios.de/ you can find the windows installer for LyX 1.4.1. A belated congratulations, Uwe! These problems are known: - LyX's menus are not

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Angus Leeming
Enrico Forestieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I may well be wrong, though, and you may have already provided a libintl_set_relocation_prefix() function in your build. Nope. I've hardly ever looked in intl and, in general, LyX should also work --without-included-gettext. It seems that my list of

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: A. Interesting indeed. I compiled the plugin with g++. I take it that NSIS itself is compiled with VS? I'll recompile with VS. NSIS itself is indeed compiled with VS, but plug-in don't have to be compiled with VS. There are even some Delphi plug-ins that work. I'm

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus The code in src/support/package.C uses the name of Angus the LyX executable to provide it with the necessary info to Angus find the .mo files; obviously that won't work. Where is that?? Angus The LyX 1.4.1 build should work because both

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: If you do the same renaming with the po files, would it fix the menu language problem? As I wrote in the email: I also tried to rename the .mo-files from LyX1.4.x.mo to lyx.mo as these were the filenames in LyX 1.3.x, but that didn't help. Uwe

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Bo == Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tested Bo's patch and can tell that in this case they see a dialog informing them that a default viewer for postscript is not available. So they know that they have to do something... Bo Many thanks!. Finally someone seems to understand my

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Bo Peng
I do understand your idea. It does not mean I agree with it. Maybe people do not want/need a postscript viewer (pdflatex/acroread is OK, isn't it?). What you have said, compared to the trouble of requiring ghostscript, or not having this option at all, is not a problem. For the first option:

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : Bo == Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tested Bo's patch and can tell that in this case they see a dialog informing them that a default viewer for postscript is not available. So they know that they have to do something... Bo Many thanks!. Finally someone

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | OK but the problem with your hidding menu philosophy is that the user | will never know that he could use dvi or ps at the first place. As a | user I'd rather be educated that, under Windows, View DVI is the best | option to check quickly the final

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Uwe Stöhr a écrit : Abdelrazak Younes wrote: If you do the same renaming with the po files, would it fix the menu language problem? As I wrote in the email: I also tried to rename the .mo-files from LyX1.4.x.mo to lyx.mo as these were the filenames in LyX 1.3.x, but that didn't help.

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Bo == Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bo b): there is a view-ps, when chosen, tells the user there is no Bo associated viewer and s/he needs to install one. No it tells the user please browse you hard disk to find a suitable application. And it forgets to add good luck. I do not see how

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Lars Gullik Bjønnes a écrit : Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | OK but the problem with your hidding menu philosophy is that the user | will never know that he could use dvi or ps at the first place. As a | user I'd rather be educated that, under Windows, View DVI is the best |

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Bo Peng
No it tells the user please browse you hard disk to find a suitable application. And it forgets to add good luck. I do not see how someone is going to think about installing gsview. Windows users may be incompetent, but not stupid. No viewer found is a *common* behavior whenever someone double

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Joost Verburg
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: No it tells the user please browse you hard disk to find a suitable application. And it forgets to add good luck. I do not see how someone is going to think about installing gsview. The right place to help the user pick the right programs is the installer. This is

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Joost Verburg schrieb: Then why not add an option to the installer to download GSView (either automatic or just a link) and hide the menu option when the user doesn't need a PS viewer. I'll try to implement this for the next installer version. regards Uwe

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Bo Peng a écrit : No it tells the user please browse you hard disk to find a suitable application. And it forgets to add good luck. I do not see how someone is going to think about installing gsview. Windows users may be incompetent, but not stupid. No viewer found is a *common* behavior

Re: [announce] LyXWinInstaller with LyX 1.4.1

2006-04-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Uwe == Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uwe Andreas K. schrieb: Could someone please put it in ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/contrib/LyXWinInstaller/LyX141/ Uwe I forgot to ask for this. Jean-Marc could you do this please? Uwe Thanks in advance. I did it. JMarc

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