Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 05:23:21PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: Qt2 is GPL/QPL dual licensed. Wasn't the point of the GNU suggested wording to be a model of how to allow linking to Qt2 on Windows? I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if the general exception is good. law is weird. I'm not even

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread Philipp Reichmuth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, AR Wasn't the point of the GNU suggested wording to be a model of how to AR allow linking to Qt2 on Windows? On Unix there is no problem with AR either GPL or QPL as I understand it. So we would still need to AR mention Qt2. What

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 09:39:41AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: right. We went through that before I wrote these. The bottom line, I think, is that we have nothing to gain by the change, may not even legally be able to make the change, and that there is a potential downside to the

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 09:45:23AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I think that we should not be overly concerned by that. Let's just stick with what FSF proposes. Again, I think the change right now would be a bad idea. We don't have a problem, have nothing to gain, and may

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 10:22:55AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The preferred operation of law is striking, not carving exceptions. clause rejected complies with this. link with xforms doesn't. OK, I think I see what you're saying: the implicit license people used was effectively, in

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 05:13:47PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: (still...if I answer 'yes' it looks a bit silly...) Urm... since when do you care? ;-) Andre' -- André Pönitz .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
John == John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John I propose the following to match COPYING. IT's also clearer IMHO I'd say: just commit it. JMarc

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
dochawk == dochawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dochawk John jabbered, On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 06:12:17PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not really certain that we can do that. the new text is the text directly suggested on the GNU website and has been checked by their laywers.

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
dochawk == dochawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dochawk I'd stick to what we have until there's a problem or the dochawk other language becomes universal. Note that what we have now in the code is the wording from the FSF. John's patch is intended to update the www site to read the same. JMarc

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars | I'm not trying to start a GPL-vs-BSD flamewar here, but why Lars not | release it under the modified BSD license? Then the Lars linking problem | would be out of the world once and for all, Lars and its pretty much in | line with most

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 05:23:21PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > > Qt2 is GPL/QPL dual licensed. > > Wasn't the point of the GNU suggested wording to be a model of how to > allow linking to Qt2 on Windows? I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if the general exception is good. law is weird. I'm not

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread Philipp Reichmuth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, AR> Wasn't the point of the GNU suggested wording to be a model of how to AR> allow linking to Qt2 on Windows? On Unix there is no problem with AR> either GPL or QPL as I understand it. So we would still need to AR> mention Qt2. What

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 09:39:41AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > right. We went through that before I wrote these. > > The bottom line, I think, is that we have nothing to gain by the > change, may not even legally be able to make the change, and that there > is a potential downside to

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 09:45:23AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Anyway, I think that we should not be overly concerned by that. Let's > > just stick with what FSF proposes. > > Again, I think the change right now would be a bad idea. We don't have > a problem, have nothing to gain, and

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 10:22:55AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The preferred operation of law is striking, not carving exceptions. > "clause rejected" complies with this. "link with xforms" doesn't. OK, I think I see what you're saying: the implicit license people used was effectively,

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 05:13:47PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > (still...if I answer 'yes' it looks a bit silly...) Urm... since when do you care? ;-) Andre' -- André Pönitz .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> I propose the following to match COPYING. IT's also clearer IMHO I'd say: just commit it. JMarc

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "dochawk" == dochawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: dochawk> John jabbered, >> On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 06:12:17PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > I'm not really certain that we can do that. >> the new text is the text directly suggested on the GNU website and >> has been checked by

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "dochawk" == dochawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: dochawk> I'd stick to what we have until there's a problem or the dochawk> other language becomes universal. Note that what we have now in the code is the wording from the FSF. John's patch is intended to update the www site to read the

Re: License on www site

2001-10-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> | I'm not trying to start a GPL-vs-BSD flamewar here, but why Lars> not | release it under the modified BSD license? Then the Lars> linking problem | would be out of the world once and for all, Lars> and its pretty much in |

Re: License on www site

2001-10-30 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 06:12:17PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not really certain that we can do that. the new text is the text directly suggested on the GNU website and has been checked by their laywers. Again, lyx/COPYING already has this. I assume you're a laywer - are you a

Re: License on www site

2001-10-30 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 12:45:15AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: To limit it to XForms is perhaps not good, we should add a clause for QT2 as well. Qt2 is GPL/QPL dual licensed. And as time arises other gui tollkits that is used. yes | I'm a lot more comfortable without adding the

Re: License on www site

2001-10-30 Thread Allan Rae
On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, John Levon wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 12:45:15AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: To limit it to XForms is perhaps not good, we should add a clause for QT2 as well. Qt2 is GPL/QPL dual licensed. Wasn't the point of the GNU suggested wording to be a model of how

Re: License on www site

2001-10-30 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 06:12:17PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm not really certain that we can do that. the new text is the text directly suggested on the GNU website and has been checked by their laywers. Again, lyx/COPYING already has this. I assume you're a laywer - are you a

Re: License on www site

2001-10-30 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 12:45:15AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > To limit it to XForms is perhaps not good, we should add a clause for > QT2 as well. Qt2 is GPL/QPL dual licensed. > And as time arises other gui tollkits that is used. yes > | I'm a lot more comfortable without adding

Re: License on www site

2001-10-30 Thread Allan Rae
On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, John Levon wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 12:45:15AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > > To limit it to XForms is perhaps not good, we should add a clause for > > QT2 as well. > > Qt2 is GPL/QPL dual licensed. Wasn't the point of the GNU suggested wording to be a