Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-18 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Uwe, could I have your input on the following questions: * What do you think about creating a separate sourceforge project for storing the dictionary installers? Why? I already have a berlos.de procect, so why not use the space I already have there? * Which, if any, components does your in

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-18 Thread Joost Verburg
Bo Peng wrote: The point here is that Christian would like to know how to automate the generation of dictionaries, namely having a look at your cygwin script. Sure. http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Windows/aspell_installer_data%2Bdict.zip Joost

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-18 Thread Bo Peng
It's already automated with a Cygwin shell script. I'll generate dictionaries for all languages if you think it's necessary. The point here is that Christian would like to know how to automate the generation of dictionaries, namely having a look at your cygwin script. Same hold for the installe

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-18 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is involved in creating an installer dictionary? If you (or Uwe?) could explain a bit about it, I'll learn and understand more about it. Feel free to point me to some help instructions if those already exist. It's not good if you're the only one that knows about th

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-18 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Joost Verburg wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree we should compile all the dictionaries, under the condition that it is not too much extra work. However, I don't buy the argument about imposing their will, since this is the LyX project and not the Aspell project. A

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-18 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree we should compile all the dictionaries, under the condition that it is not too much extra work. However, I don't buy the argument about imposing their will, since this is the LyX project and not the Aspell project. Anyway, as I said. If it's not too much work (o

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread Joost Verburg
Uwe Stöhr wrote: LyX supports now for example Farsi (fa) and Armenian (hy). But anyway ,as people downloaded the other dictionaries, they have a reason for this. We should not impose their will. These people probably want to download dictionaries for all supported languages. There is absolute

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Uwe Stöhr wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Joost Verburg wrote: The other languages are not supported by LyX, so I don't see any reason to make dictionaries available for these languages. LyX supports now for example Farsi (fa) and Armenian (hy). But anyway ,as people down

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread Uwe Stöhr
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Joost Verburg wrote: > The other languages are not supported by LyX, so I don't see any reason to make dictionaries > available for these languages. LyX supports now for example Farsi (fa) and Armenian (hy). But anyway ,as people downloaded the other dictionaries, they have

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Joost Verburg wrote: Uwe Stöhr wrote: So could you also provide the now missing Aspell dictionaries at ftp.lyx.org or was there a reason why you don't build the dictionaries for all languages? The other languages are not supported by LyX, so I don't see any reason to

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread Joost Verburg
Uwe Stöhr wrote: So could you also provide the now missing Aspell dictionaries at ftp.lyx.org or was there a reason why you don't build the dictionaries for all languages? The other languages are not supported by LyX, so I don't see any reason to make dictionaries available for these language

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Hi Joost, I wanted to update the Aspell dictionaries at berlios.de but see now that at ftp.lyx.org many dictionaries are missing. You can see from the download statistics here http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5117&release_id=9651 that every Aspell dictionary was downloa

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Joost Verburg wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are older versions kept somewhere else? Or have the dictionary installers newer been updated? The old versions are somewhere in the wiki uploads directory. Ok. Is that where old LyX installers lo

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Joost Verburg wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are older versions kept somewhere else? Or have the dictionary installers newer been updated? The old versions are somewhere in the wiki uploads directory. Ok. Is that where old LyX installers look for them? /Christian -

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Joost Verburg wrote: Softlinks on the FTP server to the most recent versions will do. Like aspell6-en-latest.exe. Hmm.. that's not necessarily so easy to synchronize between different servers. We don't want to create a lot of work for Jean-Marc. (Or whoever it is that ca

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are older versions kept somewhere else? Or have the dictionary installers newer been updated? The old versions are somewhere in the wiki uploads directory. Joost

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Joost Verburg wrote: Do we ever need to support old versions of a dictionary? (For instance if a new version of a dictionary contains a spelling of a word that someone thinks is incorrect). I keep the old versions for older installers. If you want the installers to alw

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked in the directory again, and I think I understand it better now. For an installer of a dictionary, e.g. .../aspell6-windows/aspell6-af-0.50-0.exe * The '6' in 'aspell6' stands for dictonary format '6'. * The '-af-' stands for the language * The '0.50-0' sta

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It feels like I'm missing something here. You say you'd like to be able to update the files now and then. However, the format is not going to change. The dictionary file format is not going to change anytime soon. Reading what you wrote earlier, I wonder: Is this abou

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Joost Verburg wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, it's not all clear to me that this directory only contains dictionaries. I think the name should say this, so I'm modifying my suggestion to the following: Why create a whole directory structure if we only need to host

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Joost Verburg wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an alternative suggestion if we are really only talking about dictionaries for Aspell. Why should we host them? Let's put them on sourceforge instead. Either get them in with the Aspell project, or start a separate pr

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an alternative suggestion if we are really only talking about dictionaries for Aspell. Why should we host them? Let's put them on sourceforge instead. Either get them in with the Aspell project, or start a separate project for the Aspell dictionaries. Creating

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Joost Verburg wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about some of the components themselves? I have some (vague) memory of this being discussed. (The original location of the components should probably the primary place to look for them, but we could supply a backup loc

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, it's not all clear to me that this directory only contains dictionaries. I think the name should say this, so I'm modifying my suggestion to the following: Why create a whole directory structure if we only need to host dictionaries? If you change the name there s

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about some of the components themselves? I have some (vague) memory of this being discussed. (The original location of the components should probably the primary place to look for them, but we could supply a backup location for the installer. Not necessarily for a

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The version number of the dictionary format (6) is already in the name. If there would ever be a new Aspell version with a different dictionary format (which is very unlikely), the dictionaries will be uploaded to ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/contri

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Joost Verburg wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are aspell dictionaries the only thing that we should provide? Are there and components used by the downloading installers that we should provide a (backup) location for? Only Aspell is used on Windows. What about some of

Re: Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are aspell dictionaries the only thing that we should provide? Are there and components used by the downloading installers that we should provide a (backup) location for? Only Aspell is used on Windows. If it's more then aspell dictionaries, how about a directory tree

Location of supporting files for the windows installers (Was: RC2 coming soon)

2007-06-17 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Bo Peng schrieb: I am not sure because Joost said that these dictionaries are for an earlier version of aspell and can not be used for the one compiled for the official installer. I can upload the actual ones tomorrow, no problem. But also the current