Re: \title[foo]{bar} et al.

1999-09-17 Thread Dr. Ing. Dieter Jurzitza
Dear Jean-Marc, dear listmembers, just to give you an opinion about that: a "clickable" section / subsection / chapter offering a field for entering a "shorty" for the table of contents sounds best to me (despite whatever changes ought to occur in the LyX code). I think this is easy to keep

Re: FYI: Development Model Change (a.k.a The Road Ahead)

1999-09-17 Thread Arnd Hanses
On 17 Sep 1999 17:56:07 +0200, Lars Gullik Bj°nnes wrote: >"Arnd Hanses" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >| It won't help anybody, if you still continue to export all your soon >| 10,000 global inter-module interface symbols; even now you have 3026 >| public symbol exports (functions and variables

Re: \title[foo]{bar} et al.

1999-09-17 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 06:13:45PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Jose" == Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Jose> Since there are several cases, such as figure captions, maybe > Jose> this solution should be more general than just for title. > > The s

Re: \title[foo]{bar} et al.

1999-09-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Jose" == Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jose> Since there are several cases, such as figure captions, maybe Jose> this solution should be more general than just for title. The solution I have in mind would work for sections and captions. What we have to know is

Re: \title[foo]{bar} et al.

1999-09-17 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 05:49:29PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Amir" == Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] > I'm sure there should be some adjustments to this scheme to make it > reasonably general. In particular, we should use the same scheme for > both LaTeX and SGM

Re: DocBook development

1999-09-17 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 04:42:57PM +0100, Horst G Kausch wrote: > > > I notice from your header that you are using an "old" version, that > > still is related with docbook 3.0. The new header is related with > > docbook 3.1 as used in the last sgmltools cvs version, soon to become > > 2.0.3 > >

Re: FYI: Development Model Change (a.k.a The Road Ahead)

1999-09-17 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Arnd Hanses" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Which should not be too hard ;), | since so-called 'software industry' in fact is no industry and never | produced code meeting common industrial engineering standards, aka with | 10 years of legally effective guaranty for functionality, safety and | s

Re: FYI: Development Model Change (a.k.a The Road Ahead)

1999-09-17 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Arnd Hanses" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | It won't help anybody, if you still continue to export all your soon | 10,000 global inter-module interface symbols; even now you have 3026 | public symbol exports (functions and variables) in LyX 1.0.x global | name space. As said. 1.0.x is defunct i

Re: FYI: Development Model Change (a.k.a The Road Ahead)

1999-09-17 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | > You can't use archives (*.a ) for static linkage??? | > Even if you have provided for them, nobody is forced to | > actually link dynamically. The main purpose is speeding up development. | > | | You never had a look at the 1.1.x codebase

Re: \title[foo]{bar} et al.

1999-09-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Amir" == Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Amir> Question for the latex gurus in the audience. One popular Amir> complaint about lyx 1.0 is that you can't get the equivalent of Amir> \section[short]{long section title}. Amir> Well, perhaps this has been discussed before, but couldn

Re: DocBook development

1999-09-17 Thread Horst G Kausch
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 08:55:29PM +0100, Horst G Kausch wrote: > > I have now takem your sample document and added sections illustrating the > > problems I have with nested lists and wrongly &-quoted characters in the > > Code environmen

Re: FYI: Development Model Change (a.k.a The Road Ahead)

1999-09-17 Thread Arnd Hanses
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:58:30 +0200 (MEST), Juergen Vigna wrote: >know that we have at least 2 *.a (libgui.a + libsupport.a) and a bunch >of *.o in subdirectories (which could also be *.a files) I know... This question was purely rhetoric.. :) No, earnestly, some time ago I had a small discussio

Re: FYI: Development Model Change (a.k.a The Road Ahead)

1999-09-17 Thread Arnd Hanses
On 17 Sep 1999 14:58:11 +0200, Lars Gullik Bj°nnes wrote: >| > frustrations, soon stabilize an industrial quality code base and enable >| >| *grin* industrial quality? I always thought LyX could do much better. > >We will. Which should not be too hard ;), since so-called 'software industry' in

Re: FYI: Development Model Change (a.k.a The Road Ahead)

1999-09-17 Thread Juergen Vigna
> > You can't use archives (*.a ) for static linkage??? > Even if you have provided for them, nobody is forced to > actually link dynamically. The main purpose is speeding up development. > You never had a look at the 1.1.x codebase, had you? Then you would know that we have at least 2 *.

Re: FYI: Development Model Change (a.k.a The Road Ahead)

1999-09-17 Thread Arnd Hanses
On 17 Sep 1999 14:36:26 +0200, Lars Gullik Bj°nnes wrote: > >| - My idea here is to restrict messages so as to simply print to a log >| file/named pipe with a tag that identifies and classifies the message >| using only standardized functions. The respective gui wizard would then >| decide how an

Re: FYI: Development Model Change (a.k.a The Road Ahead)

1999-09-17 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Andre' Poenitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I think one should only use features supported by more than one | compiler, even if this means you can't use all of these fancy new | gimmicks in the standard. This is why we will not introduce namespaces and exceptions yet. vector<>'s and the like

Re: FYI: Development Model Change (a.k.a The Road Ahead)

1999-09-17 Thread Arnd Hanses
On 16 Sep 1999 18:50:58 +0200, Lars Gullik Bj°nnes wrote: > >When 1.0.4 is released we will open up development on the new 1.1.x >series and shortly after that some new stable releases with no new >users features will be released (except to modules that are under >continued development DocBook an

Re: FYI: Development Model Change (a.k.a The Road Ahead)

1999-09-17 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Arnd Hanses" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Am I wrong, that the ANSI C++ library is on very few systems (namely | sgi) available as a manually optimized and thoroughly debugged option? Yes, I believe you are wrong. AFAIK all major compiler vendors have released new versions of their products s

Re: DocBook development

1999-09-17 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 01:54:03PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: [...] > Jose> I was really surprised with your creative name scheme. ;-) > > Yes, sometimes I cannot help being creative... :-) > JMarc > > PS: are there other things you need for docbook support? Not for the moment

Re: DocBook development

1999-09-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Jose" == Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jose> Thanks Jean-Marc.:-) BTW, the test works for me. Great! That's good. >> Note that LinuxDoc classes are now defined with >> \DeclareLinuxDocClass while the docbook classes use (surprise!) >> \DeclareDocBookClass. Jo

Re: FYI: Development Model Change (a.k.a The Road Ahead)

1999-09-17 Thread Juergen Vigna
> > If I understood forms home page correctly, 0.89 is not a production > release, yet a 'for evaluation only' version, released for a fraction > of the supported systems. For non-experimental use they still only > support 0.88. > That's what I've seen too!!! Therefor I'm still using 0.88! Gre

Re: FYI: Development Model Change (a.k.a The Road Ahead)

1999-09-17 Thread Andre' Poenitz
> Am I wrong, that the ANSI C++ library is on very few systems (namely > sgi) available as a manually optimized and thoroughly debugged option? AFAIK, yes. > Using this means asking for complaints for bugs/slow performance. So it > might be a good idea to provide (precompiled and tested/debugge

Re: Mathed dependency on libXpm

1999-09-17 Thread Arnd Hanses
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:18:50 +0200 (MET DST), Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bj nnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Lars> It looks like math_symbols.C contains one line that is the only >Lars> place where we use a function from libXpm that is not in XForms: > >You forgot

Re: FYI: Development Model Change (a.k.a The Road Ahead)

1999-09-17 Thread Arnd Hanses
On 16 Sep 1999 18:50:58 +0200, Lars Gullik Bj°nnes wrote: >If you have comments or questions too this, please step onto the >soapbox. > > Lgb [...] > - use of std::string [...] >An other change that >will impace users is the move to more modern C++, we aim to begin use >the Standar

Re: DocBook development

1999-09-17 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 08:55:29PM +0100, Horst G Kausch wrote: > I have now takem your sample document and added sections illustrating the > problems I have with nested lists and wrongly &-quoted characters in the > Code environment. I have generated a new sample file with the last cvs source

Re: DocBook development

1999-09-17 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:11:46AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Jose" == Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > OK, since I was supposed to do this a looong time ago, I finally wrote > the needed code. Please try it out, since I do not have either of the > sgmlt

Re: Mathed dependency on libXpm

1999-09-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> It looks like math_symbols.C contains one line that is the only Lars> place where we use a function from libXpm that is not in XForms: You forgot bmtable.C, too. JMarc

Re: DocBook development

1999-09-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Jose" == Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jose> On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 12:55:35PM +0100, Horst G Kausch wrote: >> I had downloaded the source for release 1.0.4pre6 and compiled >> it. It had the following problems: >> >> 1) The configure script did not find my sgmlt