Re: Basque translation

[Iñaki Larrañaga Murgoitio]

Hi Pavel,

Do not touch it :-)

I found a better basque term for ‘listing’ concept: zerrendatua.

Thanks, and enjoy weekend

Dooteo

> On 17 Feb 2018, at 19:21, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> 
> I??aki Larra??aga Murgoitio wrote:
>> Hi Pavel, and LyX developers,
>> 
>> Here you are last basque translation fixed and ready :-)
> 
> Thanks, I put everything in and regenerated layouttranslations in 2.3 branch.
> Still, see below.
> 
>>> It is noun for source code "listing" you get via Insert->Program Listing
>>> and currently you use Zerrenda.
>>> What is the correct translation here?
>>> 
 ?
 
 H???. is this a plural for list entries?
 
Listings :  Sarrerak
 
 ?
 
 If next means list of entries:
 
List of Listings : Sarreren zerrenda
 
 Otherwise, for list of lists:
 
List of Listings : Zerrenden zerrenda
>>> 
>>> "Listings" and "List of Listings" should lead to the same translation
>>> (we need to use these two terms because different LaTeX classes named
>>> it differently, but the meaning is really the same - list of all insets
>>> with source code you have in the document.
> 
> Probably I was not clear "List of Listings" and "Listings[[List of Listings]]"
> should have the same translation. Should I fix it?
> 
> Pavel

Re: Basque translation

[Pavel Sanda]

I??aki Larra??aga Murgoitio wrote:
> Hi Pavel, and LyX developers,
> 
> Here you are last basque translation fixed and ready :-)

Thanks, I put everything in and regenerated layouttranslations in 2.3 branch.
Still, see below.

> > It is noun for source code "listing" you get via Insert->Program Listing
> > and currently you use Zerrenda.
> > What is the correct translation here?
> > 
> >> ?
> >> 
> >> H???. is this a plural for list entries?
> >> 
> >>Listings :  Sarrerak
> >> 
> >> ?
> >> 
> >> If next means list of entries:
> >> 
> >>List of Listings : Sarreren zerrenda
> >> 
> >> Otherwise, for list of lists:
> >> 
> >>List of Listings : Zerrenden zerrenda
> > 
> > "Listings" and "List of Listings" should lead to the same translation
> > (we need to use these two terms because different LaTeX classes named
> > it differently, but the meaning is really the same - list of all insets
> > with source code you have in the document.

Probably I was not clear "List of Listings" and "Listings[[List of Listings]]"
should have the same translation. Should I fix it?

Pavel

Re: Basque translation

[Iñaki Larrañaga Murgoitio]

Hi Pavel,

I see, let me fix some translations during current weekend :)

Thanks

> On 15 Feb 2018, at 10:53, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> 
> I??aki Larra??aga Murgoitio wrote:
>>> (*):
>>> "Property"
>>> "Solution"
>>> "Listing"
>>> "Listings"
>>> "List of Listings"
>>> "see equation[[nomencl]]"
>>> "page[[nomencl]]"
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Are those new messages into PO file? Anyway, let me translate them to basque 
>> for you: (english : basque)
> 
> Yes, all these changes have to be done in  .po file first, we then regenerate 
> the file lib/layouttranslations
> from it. You can check "eu" section in the resulting file in your tree or 
> here:
> http://git.lyx.org/?p=lyx.git;a=blob;f=lib/layouttranslations;h=f350f2327c7132cef303192426edd95987d7b045;hb=HEAD
> 
>> I need some context for ???property??? term, does it refer to something???s 
>> owner?
>> 
>>  Property : Jabetza
>> 
>> other way it should translate as:
>> 
>>  Property : Propietatea
> 
> Here context is mathematical and you already have Propietatea used.
> 
>> ?
>> Solution : Emaitza
> 
> Already ok.
> 
>> ?
>> 
>> Which is it context? 
>> 
>> If it???s a verb, then
>>  Listing : Zerrendatzea
>> 
>> if a noun, it could be a entry for list
>> 
>>  Listing : Sarrera
>> 
>> If it is a synonym for list, then
>> 
>>  Listing : Zerrenda
> 
> It is noun for source code "listing" you get via Insert->Program Listing
> and currently you use Zerrenda.
> What is the correct translation here?
> 
>> ?
>> 
>> H???. is this a plural for list entries?
>> 
>>  Listings :  Sarrerak
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> If next means list of entries:
>> 
>>  List of Listings : Sarreren zerrenda
>> 
>> Otherwise, for list of lists:
>> 
>>  List of Listings : Zerrenden zerrenda
> 
> "Listings" and "List of Listings" should lead to the same translation
> (we need to use these two terms because different LaTeX classes named
> it differently, but the meaning is really the same - list of all insets
> with source code you have in the document.
> Currently you use Zerrendak and Zerrenden zerrenda, my guess is that
> both should be Zerrenden zerrenda.
> 
>> ?
>> 
>> 
>>   see equation[[nomencl]] : ikus ekuazioa[[nomenklatura]]
>> 
>> As you can find at eu.po, basque translations contains [[]] 
>> translated too. What is [[xxx]] for?
> 
> That is mistake, you should not use '[[..]]' anywhere in your .po 
> translations.
> '[[..]]' is just hint in what context the translated item appears.
> So in your case it should look like:
> msgid "see equation[[nomencl]]"
> msgstr "ikus ekuazioa"
> 
> Most likely you used '[[..]]' in other translations as well and they should be
> deleted...
> 
>> Can you escalate them to proper file? ;-)
> 
> They all should go just to eu.po.
> 
> You might benefit from reading README.localization in your tree or here:
> http://git.lyx.org/?p=lyx.git;a=blob;f=README.localization;h=6b0b540b5eb0ebc309dc9d7ee51b75da3c9f96f9;hb=HEAD
> 
> [[]] issue is explained in part I, section 4; layouttranslations is
> explained in part II.
> 
> Thanks for your contribution :)
> Pavel

Re: Basque translation

[Pavel Sanda]

I??aki Larra??aga Murgoitio wrote:
> > (*):
> > "Property"
> > "Solution"
> > "Listing"
> > "Listings"
> > "List of Listings"
> > "see equation[[nomencl]]"
> > "page[[nomencl]]"
> > 
> 
> 
> Are those new messages into PO file? Anyway, let me translate them to basque 
> for you: (english : basque)

Yes, all these changes have to be done in  .po file first, we then regenerate 
the file lib/layouttranslations
from it. You can check "eu" section in the resulting file in your tree or here:
http://git.lyx.org/?p=lyx.git;a=blob;f=lib/layouttranslations;h=f350f2327c7132cef303192426edd95987d7b045;hb=HEAD
 
> I need some context for ???property??? term, does it refer to something???s 
> owner?
> 
>   Property : Jabetza
> 
> other way it should translate as:
> 
>   Property : Propietatea

Here context is mathematical and you already have Propietatea used.

> ?
> Solution : Emaitza

Already ok.

> ?
> 
> Which is it context? 
> 
> If it???s a verb, then
>   Listing : Zerrendatzea
> 
> if a noun, it could be a entry for list
> 
>   Listing : Sarrera
> 
> If it is a synonym for list, then
>  
>   Listing : Zerrenda

It is noun for source code "listing" you get via Insert->Program Listing
and currently you use Zerrenda.
What is the correct translation here?

> ?
> 
> H???. is this a plural for list entries?
> 
>   Listings :  Sarrerak
> 
> ?
> 
> If next means list of entries:
>  
>   List of Listings : Sarreren zerrenda
> 
> Otherwise, for list of lists:
> 
>   List of Listings : Zerrenden zerrenda

"Listings" and "List of Listings" should lead to the same translation
(we need to use these two terms because different LaTeX classes named
it differently, but the meaning is really the same - list of all insets
with source code you have in the document.
Currently you use Zerrendak and Zerrenden zerrenda, my guess is that
both should be Zerrenden zerrenda.

> ?
> 
> 
>see equation[[nomencl]] : ikus ekuazioa[[nomenklatura]]
> 
> As you can find at eu.po, basque translations contains [[]] 
> translated too. What is [[xxx]] for?

That is mistake, you should not use '[[..]]' anywhere in your .po translations.
'[[..]]' is just hint in what context the translated item appears.
So in your case it should look like:
msgid "see equation[[nomencl]]"
msgstr "ikus ekuazioa"

Most likely you used '[[..]]' in other translations as well and they should be
deleted...

> Can you escalate them to proper file? ;-)

They all should go just to eu.po.

You might benefit from reading README.localization in your tree or here:
http://git.lyx.org/?p=lyx.git;a=blob;f=README.localization;h=6b0b540b5eb0ebc309dc9d7ee51b75da3c9f96f9;hb=HEAD

[[]] issue is explained in part I, section 4; layouttranslations is
explained in part II.

Thanks for your contribution :)
Pavel

Re: Basque translation

[Iñaki Larrañaga Murgoitio]

Hi Pavel,

> On 12 Feb 2018, at 21:29, Pavel Sanda  wrote:
> 
> I??aki Larra??aga Murgoitio wrote:
>> Hi Jürgen, and LyX devel team,
>> 
>> Basque translation updated at %100 as requested :-)
> 
> Not so fast! :)
> 
> There is one more check we need from you - I just committed changes
> to lib/layouttranslations (output of some strings to pdf)
> (https://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/2554a7dffb2890f4b851c60c41cfee116c56baf6/lyxgit)
> 
> Please can check whether eu section of this file whether your new changes
> and also couple new strings(*) is as expected for pdf output?
> 
> 
> Pavel
> 
> (*):
> "Property"
> "Solution"
> "Listing"
> "Listings"
> "List of Listings"
> "see equation[[nomencl]]"
> "page[[nomencl]]"
> 


Are those new messages into PO file? Anyway, let me translate them to basque 
for you: (english : basque)

I need some context for ‘property’ term, does it refer to something’s owner?

Property : Jabetza

other way it should translate as:

Property : Propietatea

———
Solution : Emaitza

———

Which is it context? 

If it’s a verb, then
Listing : Zerrendatzea

if a noun, it could be a entry for list

Listing : Sarrera

If it is a synonym for list, then
 
Listing : Zerrenda

———

H…. is this a plural for list entries?

Listings :  Sarrerak

———

If next means list of entries:
 
List of Listings : Sarreren zerrenda

Otherwise, for list of lists:

List of Listings : Zerrenden zerrenda


———


 see equation[[nomencl]] : ikus ekuazioa[[nomenklatura]]

As you can find at eu.po, basque translations contains [[]] translated 
too. What is [[xxx]] for?


———


page[[nomencl]]  :  orrialdea[[nomenklatura]]


———



Can you escalate them to proper file? ;-)

Thanks and best regards,

Dooteo
 

Re: Basque translation

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag, den 12.02.2018, 20:53 +0100 schrieb Iñaki Larrañaga
Murgoitio:
> Basque translation updated at %100 as requested :-)

Excellent. Thanks once more, Dooteo. Committed.

Jürgen

> 
> Thanks and best regards,
> 
> Dooteo
> 

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Re: Basque translation

[Pavel Sanda]

I??aki Larra??aga Murgoitio wrote:
> Hi Jürgen, and LyX devel team,
> 
> Basque translation updated at %100 as requested :-)

Not so fast! :)

There is one more check we need from you - I just committed changes
to lib/layouttranslations (output of some strings to pdf)
(https://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/2554a7dffb2890f4b851c60c41cfee116c56baf6/lyxgit)

Please can check whether eu section of this file whether your new changes
and also couple new strings(*) is as expected for pdf output?


Pavel

(*):
"Property"
"Solution"
"Listing"
"Listings"
"List of Listings"
"see equation[[nomencl]]"
"page[[nomencl]]"

Re: Basque translation

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Sonntag, den 11.02.2018, 19:53 +0100 schrieb Iñaki Larrañaga
Murgoitio:
> Ouch!! Sorry, I forget to attach it!!
> 
> Here you are!

Many thanks, I committed it.

Note that some new strings went in meanwhile, in case you have some
more spare minutes:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/export/ab2bd296296b780b29ea7755ef043b2f09ae
/lyxgit/po/eu.po

Jürgen



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Re: Basque translation

[Kornel Benko]

Am Sonntag, 11. Februar 2018 19:53:15 CET schrieb Iñaki Larrañaga Murgoitio 
:
> Ouch!! Sorry, I forget to attach it!!
> 
> Here you are!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dooteo
> 
> > On 11 Feb 2018, at 19:32, Kornel Benko  wrote:
> > 
> > Am Sonntag, 11. Februar 2018 18:12:25 CET schrieb Iñaki Larrañaga
> > Murgoitio
> > 
> > :
> >> Hi there,
> >> 
> >> Attached to this mail, you could find Basque translation for LyX.
> >> 
> >> Hope it’s not too late. Could you add it to LyX?
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> 
> >> Dooteo
> > 
> > Without attachement? Too hard to process ...
> > 


OK, from my POV, we should add it.

Before: 1440 fuzzy messages
After using 'make translations': 11  fuzzy messages.

Kornel

Re: Basque translation

[Kornel Benko]

Am Sonntag, 11. Februar 2018 18:12:25 CET schrieb Iñaki Larrañaga Murgoitio 
:
> Hi there,
> 
> Attached to this mail, you could find Basque translation for LyX.
> 
> Hope it’s not too late. Could you add it to LyX?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dooteo

Without attachement? Too hard to process ...

Kornel

Re: Basque Translation (eu.po)

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

|  "blackziggy" == blackziggy  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| 
| blackziggy Hi! I'm Iñaki Larrañaga (aka Dooteo) and I just finished
| blackziggy (i think...) the translation of eu.po file for
| blackziggy LyX-1.0.3... 
| 
| Hello,

Jean-Marc, did you add the .po file to cvs?
(if not please do)

Lgb

Re: Basque Translation (eu.po)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Lars Jean-Marc, did you add the .po file to cvs? (if not please do)

OK, done. Note that I'd like to have a more up-to-date translation
(1.1.5?). 

JMarc

PS: for some reason I do not understand, the Hungarian translation
does not appear on the devel website. Could someone have a look at
translation.php3 and tell me what is wrong?

Re: Basque Translation (eu.po)

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

| > "blackziggy" == blackziggy  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| 
| blackziggy> Hi! I'm Iñaki Larrañaga (aka Dooteo) and I just finished
| blackziggy> (i think...) the translation of eu.po file for
| blackziggy> LyX-1.0.3... 
| 
| Hello,

Jean-Marc, did you add the .po file to cvs?
(if not please do)

Lgb

Re: Basque Translation (eu.po)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Lars> Jean-Marc, did you add the .po file to cvs? (if not please do)

OK, done. Note that I'd like to have a more up-to-date translation
(1.1.5?). 

JMarc

PS: for some reason I do not understand, the Hungarian translation
does not appear on the devel website. Could someone have a look at
translation.php3 and tell me what is wrong?

Re: Basque Translation (eu.po)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 "blackziggy" == blackziggy  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

blackziggy Hi! I'm Iñaki Larrañaga (aka Dooteo) and I just finished
blackziggy (i think...) the translation of eu.po file for
blackziggy LyX-1.0.3... 

Hello,

Thanks for the files. I'd be glad to add them to our distribution, I
fear that many strings will mismatch with the current version (soon
1.1.5). Would you be willing to update this translation?

I can apply this translation to 1.1.5, if you want, but I'm afraid it
will not be of much use. The best is probably to wait for LyX
1.1.5pre2 (in a few days) and update your translation for it.

blackziggy And now, while a friend of mine is correcting the Intro,
blackziggy Splash  Tutorials handbooks translated a few weeks ago to
blackziggy Basque language (eu) 

Great! Would you like to be added as the Basque maintainer for LyX?

blackziggy When I was reading some
blackziggy information about how to translate this files, I read that
blackziggy to made it I must use docstrip utilities... The matter is
blackziggy that I never used nor Tex nor LaTeX, so, can somebody help
blackziggy me explainig what must I do with this?

Where did you read that?

blackziggy p.d: The files that I just insert in this email are:
blackziggy eu.po, eu.gmo, Credits, Changes and Configure..

Please do not send files like configure and eu.gmo: their are really
to large, and can be regenerated.

JMarc

Re: Basque Translation (eu.po)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "blackziggy" == blackziggy  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

blackziggy> Hi! I'm Iñaki Larrañaga (aka Dooteo) and I just finished
blackziggy> (i think...) the translation of eu.po file for
blackziggy> LyX-1.0.3... 

Hello,

Thanks for the files. I'd be glad to add them to our distribution, I
fear that many strings will mismatch with the current version (soon
1.1.5). Would you be willing to update this translation?

I can apply this translation to 1.1.5, if you want, but I'm afraid it
will not be of much use. The best is probably to wait for LyX
1.1.5pre2 (in a few days) and update your translation for it.

blackziggy> And now, while a friend of mine is correcting the Intro,
blackziggy> Splash & Tutorials handbooks translated a few weeks ago to
blackziggy> Basque language (eu) 

Great! Would you like to be added as the Basque maintainer for LyX?

blackziggy> When I was reading some
blackziggy> information about how to translate this files, I read that
blackziggy> to made it I must use docstrip utilities... The matter is
blackziggy> that I never used nor Tex nor LaTeX, so, can somebody help
blackziggy> me explainig what must I do with this?

Where did you read that?

blackziggy> p.d: The files that I just insert in this email are:
blackziggy> eu.po, eu.gmo, Credits, Changes and Configure..

Please do not send files like configure and eu.gmo: their are really
to large, and can be regenerated.

JMarc