drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

Hi, I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into the lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an accented letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure. Is it possible to fix that? I do not know if it is a lyx or kde related issue, so i am

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

On Saturday 10 September 2005 17:56, Stephen P. Harris wrote: Well, I installed LyX with yum install lyx on FC4. But that installs 1.3.5 by default. No it does not. :-) The version available in extras is 1.3.6. There was some miscommunication previously and that was why only 1.3.5 was

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote: 2. yum install lyx. Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never, never do this if you already have TeX. Especially not if you have already carefully removed the outdated mess that is the RH kludge of tetex, and replaced it with the real tetex from

Re: open for Unix.

On Sunday 11 September 2005 05:38, Mike Meyer wrote: My instructions didn't include enough information about this. You need Python 2.4. The subprocess module was introduced in that. I can rewrite the code using pre-2.4 tools if this causes enough people problems. If you are proposing this

Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

_/ On Sun 11 Sep 2005 12:18:31 BST, [Pol] wrote : \_ Hi, I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into the lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an accented letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure. Is it possible to fix that? I do

Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

Roy Schestowitz wrote: Hi, I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into the lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an accented letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure. Is it possible to fix that? I do not know if it is a lyx or kde

Re: Simple questions.

_/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 22:14:14 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_ Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Primary-Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-face: 5Mnwy%?jIIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`(,SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1RG% *h+%X^n0EZdTM8_IB;a8F?(Fblw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ --text follows this line-- 1) Has anyone done a

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

- Original Message - From: Jose' Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:09 AM Subject: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs On Saturday 10 September 2005 17:56, Stephen P. Harris wrote: Well, I installed LyX with yum install lyx on

Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

Pol wrote: Hi, I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into the lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an accented letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure. Is it possible to fix that? Non-ASCII characters in URIs should not be used

OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

Jose' Matos wrote: On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote: 2. yum install lyx. Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never, never do this if you already have TeX. Especially not if you have already carefully removed the outdated mess that is the RH kludge of tetex, and replaced it with

escaping from MathEd in LyX 1.4

Hello, I've been playing with LyX 1.4 for a while and it works great! The amount of work obviously put into it is incredible. Thank you guys!! Despite the undeniable improvements, I noticed something a little bit annoying (hindering my quick typing :). I used to exit the MathEd by hitting

How create PDF bookmarks?

I have tried --- In the LaTeX preamble write: \usepackage[bookmarks]{hyperref} If you want the bookmarks numbered, load hyperref with the option: bookmarksnumbered=true If you want all bookmarks opened, load it with the option bookmarksopen=true Here an example: \usepackage[bookmarks,

Re: Simple questions.

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roy Schestowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: _/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 22:14:14 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_ Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Primary-Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-face: 5Mnwy%?jIIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`(,SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1RG%

Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

Roy Schestowitz wrote: Things appear to work fine when I copy accented text (tried Sørtun and Levänen) from Mozilla Firefox to LyX directly. Konqueror is inferior in terms of language support (Firefox can display Chinese, Arabic, Thai, etc.), so I suggest you try Firefox. Thank you Roy (and

Re: How create PDF bookmarks?

- Original Message - From: Leon Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 8:36 PM Subject: How create PDF bookmarks? I have tried --- In the LaTeX preamble write: \usepackage[bookmarks]{hyperref} If you want the bookmarks numbered, load

Re: How create PDF bookmarks?

Sorry forgot that... I added : \usepackage[bookmarks, bookmarksopen=true, bookmarksnumbered=true]{hyperref} into the preamble, then export-pdflatex 2 errors: Undefined control sequence. ...lgorithm \ref{cap:Algorithm-of-the 3d2d} : The

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

- Original Message - From: Jose' Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:11 AM Subject: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote: 2. yum install lyx. Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never,

Re: How create PDF bookmarks?

- Original Message - From: Leon Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:58 PM Subject: Re: How create PDF bookmarks? Sorry forgot that... I added : \usepackage[bookmarks, bookmarksopen=true,

Re: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

- Original Message - From: Peter Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 12:13 PM Subject: OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs Jose' Matos wrote: On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote: 2. yum

dia help

Hi! Somebody on this list might be familiar with the dia editor tool for drawing diagrams on many Linux distributions. The text facility seems pretty basic and I urgently need to have subscripts and superscripts. Does anybody know how to do that in a nice way? Thanks for your insights, --

Re: Simple questions.

_/ On Sun 11 Sep 2005 21:08:56 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_ In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roy Schestowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: _/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 22:14:14 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_ ... 1) Has anyone done a layout file for unixman.sty? I have not come across it. Do you

Re: Simple questions.

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roy Schestowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: What I mean is that most applications let you open multiple windows for editing puproses, with each window usually restricted to a specific file. So when you open multiple documents, you get a window per document, and a menu of

Re: Simple questions.

On Sep 11, 2005, at 10:26 PM, Mike Meyer wrote: Unfortunately, I was working on a Mac, using the Mac version of LyX. If you can have two copies of LyX running, I haven't figured out how. Trying to launch LyX a second time just pops up the window for the running copy. Opening a second .lyx file

Does Edit Preferences Converters work for you??

I'm running Fedora Core 4 linux with lyx 1.3.6 and the qt front end. Today I have been re-tracing my steps to make LyX work together with R to process Sweave documents (http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg36262.html) I'm trying to use the menus to insert a converter from

drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

Hi, I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into the lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an accented letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure. Is it possible to fix that? I do not know if it is a lyx or kde related issue, so i am

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

On Saturday 10 September 2005 17:56, Stephen P. Harris wrote: Well, I installed LyX with yum install lyx on FC4. But that installs 1.3.5 by default. No it does not. :-) The version available in extras is 1.3.6. There was some miscommunication previously and that was why only 1.3.5 was

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote: 2. yum install lyx. Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never, never do this if you already have TeX. Especially not if you have already carefully removed the outdated mess that is the RH kludge of tetex, and replaced it with the real tetex from

Re: open for Unix.

On Sunday 11 September 2005 05:38, Mike Meyer wrote: My instructions didn't include enough information about this. You need Python 2.4. The subprocess module was introduced in that. I can rewrite the code using pre-2.4 tools if this causes enough people problems. If you are proposing this

Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

_/ On Sun 11 Sep 2005 12:18:31 BST, [Pol] wrote : \_ Hi, I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into the lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an accented letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure. Is it possible to fix that? I do

Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

Roy Schestowitz wrote: Hi, I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into the lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an accented letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure. Is it possible to fix that? I do not know if it is a lyx or kde

Re: Simple questions.

_/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 22:14:14 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_ Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Primary-Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-face: 5Mnwy%?jIIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`(,SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1RG% *h+%X^n0EZdTM8_IB;a8F?(Fblw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ --text follows this line-- 1) Has anyone done a

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

- Original Message - From: Jose' Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:09 AM Subject: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs On Saturday 10 September 2005 17:56, Stephen P. Harris wrote: Well, I installed LyX with yum install lyx on

Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

Pol wrote: Hi, I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into the lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an accented letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure. Is it possible to fix that? Non-ASCII characters in URIs should not be used

OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

Jose' Matos wrote: On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote: 2. yum install lyx. Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never, never do this if you already have TeX. Especially not if you have already carefully removed the outdated mess that is the RH kludge of tetex, and replaced it with

escaping from MathEd in LyX 1.4

Hello, I've been playing with LyX 1.4 for a while and it works great! The amount of work obviously put into it is incredible. Thank you guys!! Despite the undeniable improvements, I noticed something a little bit annoying (hindering my quick typing :). I used to exit the MathEd by hitting

How create PDF bookmarks?

I have tried --- In the LaTeX preamble write: \usepackage[bookmarks]{hyperref} If you want the bookmarks numbered, load hyperref with the option: bookmarksnumbered=true If you want all bookmarks opened, load it with the option bookmarksopen=true Here an example: \usepackage[bookmarks,

Re: Simple questions.

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roy Schestowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: _/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 22:14:14 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_ Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Primary-Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-face: 5Mnwy%?jIIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`(,SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1RG%

Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

Roy Schestowitz wrote: Things appear to work fine when I copy accented text (tried Sørtun and Levänen) from Mozilla Firefox to LyX directly. Konqueror is inferior in terms of language support (Firefox can display Chinese, Arabic, Thai, etc.), so I suggest you try Firefox. Thank you Roy (and

Re: How create PDF bookmarks?

- Original Message - From: Leon Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 8:36 PM Subject: How create PDF bookmarks? I have tried --- In the LaTeX preamble write: \usepackage[bookmarks]{hyperref} If you want the bookmarks numbered, load

Re: How create PDF bookmarks?

Sorry forgot that... I added : \usepackage[bookmarks, bookmarksopen=true, bookmarksnumbered=true]{hyperref} into the preamble, then export-pdflatex 2 errors: Undefined control sequence. ...lgorithm \ref{cap:Algorithm-of-the 3d2d} : The

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

- Original Message - From: Jose' Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:11 AM Subject: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote: 2. yum install lyx. Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never,

Re: How create PDF bookmarks?

- Original Message - From: Leon Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:58 PM Subject: Re: How create PDF bookmarks? Sorry forgot that... I added : \usepackage[bookmarks, bookmarksopen=true,

Re: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

- Original Message - From: Peter Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 12:13 PM Subject: OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs Jose' Matos wrote: On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote: 2. yum

dia help

Hi! Somebody on this list might be familiar with the dia editor tool for drawing diagrams on many Linux distributions. The text facility seems pretty basic and I urgently need to have subscripts and superscripts. Does anybody know how to do that in a nice way? Thanks for your insights, --

Re: Simple questions.

_/ On Sun 11 Sep 2005 21:08:56 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_ In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roy Schestowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: _/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 22:14:14 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_ ... 1) Has anyone done a layout file for unixman.sty? I have not come across it. Do you

Re: Simple questions.

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roy Schestowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: What I mean is that most applications let you open multiple windows for editing puproses, with each window usually restricted to a specific file. So when you open multiple documents, you get a window per document, and a menu of

Re: Simple questions.

On Sep 11, 2005, at 10:26 PM, Mike Meyer wrote: Unfortunately, I was working on a Mac, using the Mac version of LyX. If you can have two copies of LyX running, I haven't figured out how. Trying to launch LyX a second time just pops up the window for the running copy. Opening a second .lyx file

Does Edit Preferences Converters work for you??

I'm running Fedora Core 4 linux with lyx 1.3.6 and the qt front end. Today I have been re-tracing my steps to make LyX work together with R to process Sweave documents (http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg36262.html) I'm trying to use the menus to insert a converter from

drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

Hi, I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into the lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an accented letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure. Is it possible to fix that? I do not know if it is a lyx or kde related issue, so i am

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

On Saturday 10 September 2005 17:56, Stephen P. Harris wrote: > Well, I installed LyX with yum install lyx on FC4. > But that installs 1.3.5 by default. No it does not. :-) The version available in extras is 1.3.6. There was some miscommunication previously and that was why only 1.3.5 was

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote: > > 2. yum install lyx. > > Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never, never do this if you already have TeX. > Especially not if you have already carefully removed the outdated mess > that is the RH kludge of tetex, and replaced it with the real tetex

Re: "open" for Unix.

On Sunday 11 September 2005 05:38, Mike Meyer wrote: > > My instructions didn't include enough information about this. You need > Python 2.4. The subprocess module was introduced in that. I can > rewrite the code using pre-2.4 tools if this causes enough people > problems. If you are proposing

Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

_/ On Sun 11 Sep 2005 12:18:31 BST, [Pol] wrote : \_ Hi, I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into the lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an accented letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure. Is it possible to fix that? I do

Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

Roy Schestowitz wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into >> the lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an >> accented letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure. >> Is it possible to fix that? >> >> I do not know if it is a

Re: Simple questions.

_/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 22:14:14 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_ Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Primary-Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ --text follows this line-- 1) Has anyone done a

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

- Original Message - From: "Jose' Matos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:09 AM Subject: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs On Saturday 10 September 2005 17:56, Stephen P. Harris wrote: Well, I installed LyX with yum install lyx

Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

Pol wrote: Hi, I was not able to copy a file by drag and drop from konqueror into the lyx editor, since the non-ascii character in the file name (an accented letter, in my case) is erased during the procedure. Is it possible to fix that? Non-ASCII characters in URIs should not be used

OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

Jose' Matos wrote: On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote: 2. yum install lyx. Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never, never do this if you already have TeX. Especially not if you have already carefully removed the outdated mess that is the RH kludge of tetex, and replaced it with

escaping from MathEd in LyX 1.4

Hello, I've been playing with LyX 1.4 for a while and it works great! The amount of work obviously put into it is incredible. Thank you guys!! Despite the undeniable improvements, I noticed something a little bit annoying (hindering my quick typing :). I used to exit the MathEd by hitting

How create PDF bookmarks?

I have tried --- In the LaTeX preamble write: \usepackage[bookmarks]{hyperref} If you want the bookmarks numbered, load hyperref with the option: "bookmarksnumbered=true" If you want all bookmarks opened, load it with the option "bookmarksopen=true" Here an example:

Re: Simple questions.

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roy Schestowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > _/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 22:14:14 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_ > > > Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > X-Primary-Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > X-face: > > "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% > >

Re: drag-and-drop with non-ascii characters

Roy Schestowitz wrote: Things appear to work fine when I copy accented text (tried Sørtun and Levänen) from Mozilla Firefox to LyX directly. Konqueror is inferior in terms of language support (Firefox can display Chinese, Arabic, Thai, etc.), so I suggest you try Firefox. Thank you Roy (and

Re: How create PDF bookmarks?

- Original Message - From: "Leon Chen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 8:36 PM Subject: How create PDF bookmarks? I have tried --- In the LaTeX preamble write: \usepackage[bookmarks]{hyperref} If you want the bookmarks numbered, load

Re: How create PDF bookmarks?

Sorry forgot that... I added : \usepackage[bookmarks, bookmarksopen=true, bookmarksnumbered=true]{hyperref} into the preamble, then export->pdflatex 2 errors: Undefined control sequence. ...lgorithm \ref{cap:Algorithm-of-the 3d2d} : The

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

- Original Message - From: "Jose' Matos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:11 AM Subject: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote: > 2. yum install lyx. Aaaaggghhh! *Never*,

Re: How create PDF bookmarks?

- Original Message - From: "Leon Chen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:58 PM Subject: Re: How create PDF bookmarks? Sorry forgot that... I added : \usepackage[bookmarks, bookmarksopen=true,

Re: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

- Original Message - From: "Peter Flynn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 12:13 PM Subject: OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs Jose' Matos wrote: On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:23, Peter Flynn wrote: 2.

dia help

Hi! Somebody on this list might be familiar with the dia editor tool for drawing diagrams on many Linux distributions. The text facility seems pretty basic and I urgently need to have subscripts and superscripts. Does anybody know how to do that in a nice way? Thanks for your insights, --

Re: Simple questions.

_/ On Sun 11 Sep 2005 21:08:56 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_ In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roy Schestowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: _/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 22:14:14 BST, [Mike Meyer] wrote : \_ ... > 1) Has anyone done a layout file for unixman.sty? I have not come across it. Do you

Re: Simple questions.

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roy Schestowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > > What I mean is that most applications let you open multiple windows > > for "editing" puproses, with each window usually restricted to a > > specific file. So when you open multiple documents, you get a window > > per document,

Re: Simple questions.

On Sep 11, 2005, at 10:26 PM, Mike Meyer wrote: Unfortunately, I was working on a Mac, using the Mac version of LyX. If you can have two copies of LyX running, I haven't figured out how. Trying to launch LyX a second time just pops up the window for the running copy. Opening a second .lyx file

Does Edit Preferences Converters work for you??

I'm running Fedora Core 4 linux with lyx 1.3.6 and the qt front end. Today I have been re-tracing my steps to make LyX work together with R to process Sweave documents (http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg36262.html) I'm trying to use the menus to insert a converter from