Re: Aw: Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Sonntag 02 Juni 2013, 14:47:07 schrieb Lukas Zoller: Dear Jürgen. I hope its ok that I contact you directly. Please always use (or at least CC: the lyx-users list, so others can participate as well). Your expampe is exactly what I want. I was able to make the quatations in the text of my

Re: Aw: Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Sonntag 02 Juni 2013, 14:47:07 schrieb Lukas Zoller: Dear Jürgen. I hope its ok that I contact you directly. Please always use (or at least CC: the lyx-users list, so others can participate as well). Your expampe is exactly what I want. I was able to make the quatations in the text of my

Re: Aw: Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Sonntag 02 Juni 2013, 14:47:07 schrieb Lukas Zoller: > Dear Jürgen. I hope its ok that I contact you directly. Please always use (or at least CC: the lyx-users list, so others can participate as well). > Your expampe is exactly what I want. I was able to make the quatations in > the text of

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 01.06.2013 12:46, schrieb Lukas Zoller: I read sec. 4.2.2 in embedded objects but there wasn't an answer to my problem. I don't want to have endnotes. I read sec. 4.2.2 in embedded objects but there wasn't an answer to my problem. I don't want to have endnotes. If I quote something I

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: I understand what you want but there are some citing rules. LaTeX offers ways to follow these citing rules. If you set up a new rule you have to take care manually that everything is in place. I don't think that LaTeX offers you some tools to do exactly what you want. I CCed

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 01.06.2013 15:41, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: Maybe I got it completely wrong, but don't you just want to use author-year, i.e. harvard style (via Natbib or BibLaTeX), which works with and without BibTeX? See attached for a simple natbib example. I already proposed this but the user wants

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: I already proposed this but the user wants to have _no_ label in the bibliography list. The reason is that he wants to cite within a footnote. At the end of the document he therefore wants to have only the list of cites used in the document without a label. Well, I see no

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 01.06.2013 15:52, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: I already proposed this but the user wants to have _no_ label in the bibliography list. The reason is that he wants to cite within a footnote. At the end of the document he therefore wants to have only the list of cites used in the document

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: The user wants to use LyX's bibliography environment to create the list of references, but he don't like that this way every reference gets a label (not [1] and not [Ar1999] or whatever). And he does not get this with my proposal. Didn't you try it? Jürgen

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Ray Rashif
On 1 June 2013 21:45, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote: Am 01.06.2013 15:41, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: Maybe I got it completely wrong, but don't you just want to use author-year, i.e. harvard style (via Natbib or BibLaTeX), which works with and without BibTeX? See attached for a

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Ray Rashif wrote: OK so it's like this: example Those using LaTeX are more productive than their traditional counterparts.¹ --- ¹ John, 1999 ... References - John, D. (1999). Proceedings of the ... /example If so, I've seen this in quite a few organisational

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 01.06.2013 15:55, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: Uwe Stöhr wrote: The user wants to use LyX's bibliography environment to create the list of references, but he don't like that this way every reference gets a label (not [1] and not [Ar1999] or whatever). And he does not get this with my

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Ray Rashif
On 1 June 2013 22:02, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: Ray Rashif wrote: OK so it's like this: example Those using LaTeX are more productive than their traditional counterparts.¹ --- ¹ John, 1999 ... References - John, D. (1999). Proceedings of

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: I did but maybe I completely misunderstood the task. In your example the bib entry has the key bratmann and the label is Bratmann(1999). In the footnote you referenced it via the label. I understand it so that the user don't want to have a label because I already proposed the

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Ray Rashif
On 1 June 2013 22:14, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: Uwe Stöhr wrote: I did but maybe I completely misunderstood the task. In your example the bib entry has the key bratmann and the label is Bratmann(1999). In the footnote you referenced it via the label. I understand it so that

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 01.06.2013 12:46, schrieb Lukas Zoller: I read sec. 4.2.2 in embedded objects but there wasn't an answer to my problem. I don't want to have endnotes. I read sec. 4.2.2 in embedded objects but there wasn't an answer to my problem. I don't want to have endnotes. If I quote something I

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: I understand what you want but there are some citing rules. LaTeX offers ways to follow these citing rules. If you set up a new rule you have to take care manually that everything is in place. I don't think that LaTeX offers you some tools to do exactly what you want. I CCed

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 01.06.2013 15:41, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: Maybe I got it completely wrong, but don't you just want to use author-year, i.e. harvard style (via Natbib or BibLaTeX), which works with and without BibTeX? See attached for a simple natbib example. I already proposed this but the user wants

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: I already proposed this but the user wants to have _no_ label in the bibliography list. The reason is that he wants to cite within a footnote. At the end of the document he therefore wants to have only the list of cites used in the document without a label. Well, I see no

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 01.06.2013 15:52, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: I already proposed this but the user wants to have _no_ label in the bibliography list. The reason is that he wants to cite within a footnote. At the end of the document he therefore wants to have only the list of cites used in the document

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: The user wants to use LyX's bibliography environment to create the list of references, but he don't like that this way every reference gets a label (not [1] and not [Ar1999] or whatever). And he does not get this with my proposal. Didn't you try it? Jürgen

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Ray Rashif
On 1 June 2013 21:45, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote: Am 01.06.2013 15:41, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: Maybe I got it completely wrong, but don't you just want to use author-year, i.e. harvard style (via Natbib or BibLaTeX), which works with and without BibTeX? See attached for a

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Ray Rashif wrote: OK so it's like this: example Those using LaTeX are more productive than their traditional counterparts.¹ --- ¹ John, 1999 ... References - John, D. (1999). Proceedings of the ... /example If so, I've seen this in quite a few organisational

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 01.06.2013 15:55, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: Uwe Stöhr wrote: The user wants to use LyX's bibliography environment to create the list of references, but he don't like that this way every reference gets a label (not [1] and not [Ar1999] or whatever). And he does not get this with my

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Ray Rashif
On 1 June 2013 22:02, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: Ray Rashif wrote: OK so it's like this: example Those using LaTeX are more productive than their traditional counterparts.¹ --- ¹ John, 1999 ... References - John, D. (1999). Proceedings of

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: I did but maybe I completely misunderstood the task. In your example the bib entry has the key bratmann and the label is Bratmann(1999). In the footnote you referenced it via the label. I understand it so that the user don't want to have a label because I already proposed the

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Ray Rashif
On 1 June 2013 22:14, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: Uwe Stöhr wrote: I did but maybe I completely misunderstood the task. In your example the bib entry has the key bratmann and the label is Bratmann(1999). In the footnote you referenced it via the label. I understand it so that

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 01.06.2013 12:46, schrieb Lukas Zoller: > I read sec. 4.2.2 in embedded objects but there wasn't an answer to my problem. > I don't want to have endnotes. > I read sec. 4.2.2 in embedded objects but there wasn't an answer to my problem. > I don't want to have endnotes. > If I quote

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > I understand what you want but there are some citing rules. LaTeX offers > ways to follow these citing rules. If you set up a new rule you have to > take care manually that everything is in place. I don't think that LaTeX > offers you some tools to do exactly what you want. I

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 01.06.2013 15:41, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: Maybe I got it completely wrong, but don't you just want to use author-year, i.e. "harvard" style (via Natbib or BibLaTeX), which works with and without BibTeX? See attached for a simple natbib example. I already proposed this but the user

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > I already proposed this but the user wants to have _no_ label in the > bibliography list. The reason is that he wants to cite within a footnote. > At the end of the document he therefore wants to have only the list of > cites used in the document without a label. Well, I see

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 01.06.2013 15:52, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: I already proposed this but the user wants to have _no_ label in the bibliography list. The reason is that he wants to cite within a footnote. At the end of the document he therefore wants to have only the list of cites used in the document

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > The user wants to use LyX's bibliography environment to create the list of > references, but he don't like that this way every reference gets a label > (not [1] and not [Ar1999] or whatever). And he does not get this with my proposal. Didn't you try it? Jürgen

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Ray Rashif
On 1 June 2013 21:45, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 01.06.2013 15:41, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: > > > Maybe I got it completely wrong, but don't you just want to use >> author-year, >> i.e. "harvard" style (via Natbib or BibLaTeX), which works with and >> without >> BibTeX? See

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Ray Rashif wrote: > OK so it's like this: > > > Those using LaTeX are more productive than their traditional counterparts.¹ > > --- > ¹ John, 1999 > > ... > > References > - > John, D. (1999). Proceedings of the ... > > > If so, I've seen this in quite a few organisational

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 01.06.2013 15:55, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: Uwe Stöhr wrote: The user wants to use LyX's bibliography environment to create the list of references, but he don't like that this way every reference gets a label (not [1] and not [Ar1999] or whatever). And he does not get this with my

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Ray Rashif
On 1 June 2013 22:02, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Ray Rashif wrote: > > OK so it's like this: > > > > > > Those using LaTeX are more productive than their traditional > counterparts.¹ > > > > --- > > ¹ John, 1999 > > > > ... > > > > References > > - > > John, D.

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > I did but maybe I completely misunderstood the task. In your example the bib > entry has the key "bratmann" and the label is "Bratmann(1999)". In the > footnote you referenced it via the label. I understand it so that the user > don't want to have a label because I already

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-06-01 Thread Ray Rashif
On 1 June 2013 22:14, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Uwe Stöhr wrote: > > I did but maybe I completely misunderstood the task. In your example the > bib > > entry has the key "bratmann" and the label is "Bratmann(1999)". In the > > footnote you referenced it via the label. I

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-05-31 Thread John Kane
From: Lukas Zoller lukas.zol...@gmx.ch To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:13:05 PM Subject: Reference list without numbers before the entries Hi   I varied all the posibilities in: Document/Settings/Bibliography

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-05-31 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 31.05.2013 19:43, schrieb Lukas Zoller: If I have to quote something in the Text I make that with a footnote. In this footnote for example there is written: Bratman (1999): S.35. So you want to have endnotes. (Note that endnotes are contrary to the citation norms.) To get endnotes, see

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-05-31 Thread John Kane
From: Lukas Zoller lukas.zol...@gmx.ch To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:13:05 PM Subject: Reference list without numbers before the entries Hi   I varied all the posibilities in: Document/Settings/Bibliography

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-05-31 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 31.05.2013 19:43, schrieb Lukas Zoller: If I have to quote something in the Text I make that with a footnote. In this footnote for example there is written: Bratman (1999): S.35. So you want to have endnotes. (Note that endnotes are contrary to the citation norms.) To get endnotes, see

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-05-31 Thread John Kane
From: Lukas Zoller <lukas.zol...@gmx.ch> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:13:05 PM Subject: Reference list without numbers before the entries Hi   I varied all the posibilities in: Document/Settings/Biblio

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-05-31 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 31.05.2013 19:43, schrieb Lukas Zoller: If I have to quote something in the Text I make that with a footnote. In this footnote for example there is written: "Bratman (1999): S.35." So you want to have endnotes. (Note that endnotes are contrary to the citation norms.) To get endnotes, see

Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-05-30 Thread Lukas Zoller
Hi Sorry to bother you with I suppose an easy solvable problem. However, Im not capable to solve it. My reference list at the end of my document produces entries with numbers before them. Like [1] Aune, Bruce (1977): Reason and Action. Dordrecht. [2] Bentham, Jeremy (1996): An

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-05-30 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 30.05.2013 22:13, schrieb Lukas Zoller: I only want my bibliography without the numbers, like Aune, Bruce (1977): Reason and Action. Dordrecht. This is somewhat contrary to the idea of having a reference list. As the name implies, they are used as reference but without any label you

Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-05-30 Thread Lukas Zoller
Hi Sorry to bother you with I suppose an easy solvable problem. However, Im not capable to solve it. My reference list at the end of my document produces entries with numbers before them. Like [1] Aune, Bruce (1977): Reason and Action. Dordrecht. [2] Bentham, Jeremy (1996): An

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-05-30 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 30.05.2013 22:13, schrieb Lukas Zoller: I only want my bibliography without the numbers, like Aune, Bruce (1977): Reason and Action. Dordrecht. This is somewhat contrary to the idea of having a reference list. As the name implies, they are used as reference but without any label you

Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-05-30 Thread Lukas Zoller
Hi   Sorry to bother you with I suppose an easy solvable problem. However, I'm not capable to solve it.   My reference list at the end of my document produces entries with numbers before them. Like   "[1] Aune, Bruce (1977): Reason and Action. Dordrecht. [2] Bentham, Jeremy (1996): An

Re: Reference list without numbers before the entries

2013-05-30 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 30.05.2013 22:13, schrieb Lukas Zoller: I only want my bibliography without the numbers, like Aune, Bruce (1977): Reason and Action. Dordrecht. This is somewhat contrary to the idea of having a reference list. As the name implies, they are used as reference but without any label you